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August 4, 2011 10:10:08 AM

Hey, I was wondering if any one could tell me what would be the best thing to upgrade.

Approximate Purchase Date: Any time

Budget Range: Upgraded part under 450

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: newegg or amazon

Country of Origin: U.S

Parts Preferences: Doesn't Matter

Overclocking: nah

SLI or Crossfire: i guess

Monitor Resolution: 1280x1024

Additional Comments: I just want to upgrade a couple of parts if possible

Here is my build:

Case: Rosewill Wind Ryder RZLS142A-P YE
Mobo: GIGABYTE GA-MA770T-UD3P AM3 AMD 770 ATX AMD Motherboard
Vcard: MSI N250GTS-2D512-OCv2 GeForce GTS 250 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
PSU: Antec EarthWatts EA650 650W
CPU: AMD Phenom II X3 720 2.8GHz Socket AM3 95W Triple-Core Black Processor HDZ720WFGIBOX
Ram: Patriot Viper 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666)
Hard Drive Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 ST3500418AS

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a b B Homebuilt system
August 4, 2011 11:57:27 AM

thats an easy one, upgrade your GPU(video card), the rest looks good.

I'd suggest HD6850s in Crossfire
I've always liked Sapphire the most so I'm going to suggest these to you

original:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$165 * 2 ($330)

Toxic Edition: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$180 * 2($360)

the Toxic edition is a pre-overclocked GPU that gives you a better performance than the original and comes with TriXX overclocking tool if you want to overclock it even further.

leaves you $90 at least that gives you other upgrade options that you can put into elsewhere, perhaps a CPU cooler so you can overclock your CPU?, or a decent headphone so you get awesome sound from your games? maybe moar RAM? you can never have too much RAM :) 
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a b B Homebuilt system
August 4, 2011 1:07:16 PM

that would be a great idea if he had a crossfire capable mobo. i agree that at the moment, a graphics upgrade would be the way to go.
which card? that depends on how likely you are to upgrade your computer in the future.
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a b B Homebuilt system
August 4, 2011 5:15:16 PM

Yeah. Don't go cross-fire. There are so many issues that you don't want to deal with. First, I would suggest cpu. If you don't have a good cpu, it will hold back your gpu from its full potential. I suggest getting a phenom II, unless you want to get a new mobo, then I would suggest an i5-2500k, on the new mobo. Once you have upgraded your cpu, which ever way you choose to do so (new mobo or not) then go for new gpu. So here it is:

Upgraded cpu and gpu, without new mobo: 6870 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
And phenom II 980 black edition.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Total: $410

Just new gpu (but you will be limited by cpu): 6970
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Total: $340

New Mobo, cpu, and gpu: GTX 550 ti
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
i5-2500k
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
BIOSTAR TZ68A+ LGA 1155 Intel Z68
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Total: $455
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a b B Homebuilt system
August 4, 2011 5:18:32 PM

Did you guys not even look at his monitor resolution? If hes going to upgrade something it has to be a gpu and a new monitor. I dare say that any gpu upgrade would almost be pointless if he keeps playing at 1280x1024
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a b B Homebuilt system
August 4, 2011 5:59:09 PM

bavman said:
Did you guys not even look at his monitor resolution? If hes going to upgrade something it has to be a gpu and a new monitor. I dare say that any gpu upgrade would almost be pointless if he keeps playing at 1280x1024


No. Not pointless. He would get incredibly better frames per second, and also, a monitor does not increase performance, only what it looks like. And plus, hardware wise, if he JUST upgrades gpu, it would only operate at about half potential because of his cpu. So, there is no real point in getting a new monitor just yet.
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August 5, 2011 5:24:36 AM

jrwizbang said:
Yeah. Don't go cross-fire. There are so many issues that you don't want to deal with. First, I would suggest cpu. If you don't have a good cpu, it will hold back your gpu from its full potential. I suggest getting a phenom II, unless you want to get a new mobo, then I would suggest an i5-2500k, on the new mobo. Once you have upgraded your cpu, which ever way you choose to do so (new mobo or not) then go for new gpu. So here it is:

Upgraded cpu and gpu, without new mobo: 6870 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
And phenom II 980 black edition.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Total: $410

Just new gpu (but you will be limited by cpu): 6970
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Total: $340

New Mobo, cpu, and gpu: GTX 550 ti
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
i5-2500k
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
BIOSTAR TZ68A+ LGA 1155 Intel Z68
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Total: $455


I guess i will just buy the third option since its around the same price points above. Thank you all very much for your help
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a b B Homebuilt system
August 5, 2011 11:41:46 AM

i just thought id mention that i agree with bavman, and disagree with your chosen upgrade path. i think an hd6950 or gtx 560 ti + a 23-24" hd monitor is the smart move.
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a b B Homebuilt system
August 5, 2011 12:48:54 PM

genghiskron said:
i just thought id mention that i agree with bavman, and disagree with your chosen upgrade path. i think an hd6950 or gtx 560 ti + a 23-24" hd monitor is the smart move.


I'm not sure you guys quite understand, that his monitor doesn't affect performance, so, therefore, we should ask him, would you rather it look a little bit nicer, or would you rather an insane performance increase?
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a b B Homebuilt system
August 5, 2011 4:50:54 PM

jrwizbang said:
I'm not sure you guys quite understand, that his monitor doesn't affect performance, so, therefore, we should ask him, would you rather it look a little bit nicer, or would you rather an insane performance increase?



If hes gonna keep his monitor theres absolutely no reason to get something more than a 5770. At that resolution a 5770 can max anything at the highest levels of everything including games like metro 2033 and still achieve 30 fps on average.

If he upgrades to a i5+high end gpu hes still gonna get the same image as if he just got a 5770, the only difference is instead of getting 40 or 50 fps in most games he'll be getting 100s which is pointless. If he wants to get an upgrade on the gpu the monitor is a must or else he wont notice any difference at such a low resolution.
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a b B Homebuilt system
August 5, 2011 5:15:34 PM

bavman said:
If hes gonna keep his monitor theres absolutely no reason to get something more than a 5770. At that resolution a 5770 can max anything at the highest levels of everything including games like metro 2033 and still achieve 30 fps on average.

If he upgrades to a i5+high end gpu hes still gonna get the same image as if he just got a 5770, the only difference is instead of getting 40 or 50 fps in most games he'll be getting 100s which is pointless. If he wants to get an upgrade on the gpu the monitor is a must or else he wont notice any difference at such a low resolution.


And then if he gets a 5770 and a new monitor, then what? He can almost barely run any game maxed at the high resolution of the monitor? What you're saying doesn't make sense. The better upgrade path is hardware first, then things such as monitor.
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a b B Homebuilt system
August 5, 2011 5:24:47 PM

The 5770 was just to make a point. If he spends $120 on a monitor that still leaves his with $380 for a gpu. Something like. 6950 would be awesome at 1080p. and if he overclocks his CPU he can almost got rid of any CPU bottleneck
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August 5, 2011 7:29:31 PM

I guess I should've put at the top I wanted performance over quality. So with the choice I chose will that atlease give me a better Fps then what I have right now?
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a b B Homebuilt system
August 5, 2011 7:36:17 PM

drdjmk said:
I guess I should've put at the top I wanted performance over quality. So with the choice I chose will that atlease give me a better Fps then what I have right now?


For sure. Upgrading the monitor later is a much better upgrade path. I would much rather prefer performance over a few extra pixels XD.
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August 7, 2011 1:20:49 AM

Best answer selected by drdjmk.
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