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August 6, 2011 3:02:19 AM

Approximate Purchase Date: End of the month Aug/Sep

Budget Range: $2000 - $2500

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Multimedia - Video Editing (Adobe Premiere Pro CS5), Music Production (Avid Pro Tools 9), Graphic Design (Adobe Photoshop CS5). I am interested in gaming but I am willing to completely rule it out if it conflicts with my video/audio tasks. Games I'm interested in - Battlefield 3, ARMA 2, America's Army 3, and other First Person Shooters. Finally, general PC use (Microsoft Office, Web Surfing).

Parts Not Required: I need everything.

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: newegg.com, amazon.com

Country of Origin: USA

Parts Preferences: No Preference

Overclocking: Maybe (I'm interested - Eventually)

SLI or Crossfire: Maybe (In the future - But probably not)

Monitor Resolution: 1920x1080

Additional Comments: I would like a quiet reliable PC.

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Hello everyone, I am looking for input/opinions and a compatibility check.

Case: Corsair 650D $190
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU: Corsair AX850 850W $190
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Mother Board: ASRock Z68 Extreme4 Gen 3 $190
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CPU: i7 2600K $315
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

RAM: Ripjaws X 8GB 1600 (2 x 4GB) (x2) $120
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CPU Fan: Noctua NH D14 $80
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GPU: EVGA GTX 570 Superclocked $340
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

HDD: Samsung Spinpoint F3 (x2) $120
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

SSD: Crucial M4 128GB SSD $220
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Optical Drive 01: Lite On DVD Burner iHAS424-98 LightScribe $25
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Optical Drive 02: Lite On Blu Ray Burner iHAS212-08 Lightscribe $115
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Monitors: ASUS VH238H 23" 1920x1080 (x2) $380
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Keyboard: Logitech G110 $65
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Mouse: Logitech G500 $50
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Total: $2400

Thanks in advance.
CSK222

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August 6, 2011 9:44:39 AM

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CORSAIR Professional Series Gold AX850 (CMPSU-850AX) 850W ATX12V v2.31 / EPS12V v2.92 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply
Intel Core i7-2600K Sandy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I72600K
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August 6, 2011 7:18:46 PM

werbo:
I have a couple of questions about manufacturer overclocked gpus. Is it better to overclock the gpu yourself? Does a manufacturer overclocked gpu draw more power than a gpu you overclock yourself? Is it more stable? Or is it all the same?

Why_Me:
I have been shopping around for a while now and I have decided I will order from amazon. Individual item prices are better on newegg but once you factor in the taxes and S&H you get the better deal on amazon. I just link to newegg for convenience. The only thing I have to order from newegg is the motherboard.

Example:
i7 2600K & AX850 Combo from newegg = $514.64
i7 2600K & AX850 bought individually from amazon = $498.94
On the complete order I'll save over $200.

jerreddredd:
I looked into that cooler you suggested and found this info:
http://xsreviews.co.uk/reviews/coolers/noctua-nh-d14-an...

I was reading other people's forums and you posted:

"I would not go SLI right away. grab a GTX 580 3GB and play for as long as you can, then grab a second or when you see the price drop (next year when nvidia debuts there newest cards). I just took out my EVGA 570's in SLI (same model as you selected) and replaced with a GTX 590 for heat reasons. My Micro ATX box and MB was starving the the inside 570 of air. the 570's rocked, don't get me wrong, but only because I do surround gaming at 1920x1200 x 3 (6020x1200 with bezel correction). my friends single GTX 580 performed within a few FPS of my SLi'd 570's in most games at 1920x1200 or 1920x1080. I would always start out with the single fasted card you can afford then SLI/CF later. "

What I'd like to know is:

Will the GTX 570 I have selected pose similar heat issues for me in my case? I know higher temps means the fan running faster which in turn is louder. I'd like something stable, cool and quiet.

The single fastest card I looked into getting was:

GTX 580 3GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

But I read that the higher memory only factors in when you want really high resolutions across multiple screens. Do you think it would be a good choice for me?

Thanks for the responses.
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August 7, 2011 7:50:12 AM

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I was reading other people's forums and you posted:

"I would not go SLI right away. grab a GTX 580 3GB and play for as long as you can, then grab a second or when you see the price drop (next year when nvidia debuts there newest cards). I just took out my EVGA 570's in SLI (same model as you selected) and replaced with a GTX 590 for heat reasons. My Micro ATX box and MB was starving the the inside 570 of air. the 570's rocked, don't get me wrong, but only because I do surround gaming at 1920x1200 x 3 (6020x1200 with bezel correction). my friends single GTX 580 performed within a few FPS of my SLi'd 570's in most games at 1920x1200 or 1920x1080. I would always start out with the single fasted card you can afford then SLI/CF later. "

What I'd like to know is:

Will the GTX 570 I have selected pose similar heat issues for me in my case? I know higher temps means the fan running faster which in turn is louder. I'd like something stable, cool and quiet.


I was running on a uATX MB without space between the GPU's . you have full ATX MB selected that has a gap between x16 slots so you won't have a heat/airflow issue. I actually did a follow up to that post on explaining the Gap issue.

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jerreddredd:
I looked into that cooler you suggested and found this info:
http://xsreviews.co.uk/reviews/coo [...] 2p-se14/8/


The Top down cooler NH-C12P SE14 is my personal preference as it moves air over the entire MB chipset and Ram. Granted it doesn't cool as well as the NH-D14, but then again the CPU is running just fine on the cooling it is doing with all 4 cores fully loaded. 90C is max temp on an i7-2600K. in my book as long as it keeps it under 65C, I'm happy. a Stock cooler is gonna run about 75C+ on the same tests.

I would like to throw in on the Overclocked GPU question. if you OC you void the warranty. if the Manufacturer OC you still have the warranty. the 10-$20 price difference is worth it in my opinion. the Power draw will be the same no matter who overclocks the GPU. the amount of power will be proportional the OverClock and what voltage increases were necessary to keep it stable.

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The single fastest card I looked into getting was:

GTX 580 3GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814130655

But I read that the higher memory only factors in when you want really high resolutions across multiple screens. Do you think it would be a good choice for me?

Running at 1080p on a single monitor the 3GB Ram would be wasted, and its $100 more that a SC GTX580. if you are going with a GTX 580, this is the one I would pick:
EVGA SuperClocked 015-P3-1582-AR GeForce GTX 580
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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August 7, 2011 6:07:48 PM

I was comparing the NH-C12P SE14 & NH-D14 on newegg and saw that it doesn't list the 1155 socket type under compatibility. Why is that?

I'm still not sure about swapping the NH-D14 for the NH-C12P SE14. I guess it would be good to mention that I don't plan on overclocking heavily and would like to achieve max stability on this system. The smaller overall size of the NH-C12 SE14 is appealing.

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Running at 1080p on a single monitor the 3GB Ram would be wasted


I will be running two 1080p monitors. I think I will upgrade to the superclocked GTX 580. What overall differences would there be between the 580 and 570 in my video/graphic programs? Or will I only notice a difference in gaming?

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I was reading the "Antec cases are rubbish" thread and Why_Me stated:

"Unless you plan on using water cooling, the corsairs are over priced hot boxes imo."

How good a choice is my Corsair 650D case selection? I like it as it meets my needs perfectly.

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In what other areas can this build be improved.

Thanks.
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August 7, 2011 7:16:20 PM

just go to the manufacturers web site a it will show you LGA 1155 listed. basically if worked for the 1156 it will work for the 1155. the HSF mounting is the same. the 1155's run cooler so that's bonus.
http://www.noctua.at/main.php?show=productview&products...

I love the Corsair 650D and 800, yes they are pricey but well build. "the case is in the eye of the beholder."

570/580 - you will only notice the difference in Gaming.
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August 7, 2011 8:43:07 PM

This is how it's looking. I am very satisfied with all of the selections. I think this build is complete.

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Case: Corsair 650D $190
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU: Corsair AX850 850W $190
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Mother Board: ASRock Z68 Extreme4 Gen 3 $190
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CPU: i7 2600K $315
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

RAM: Ripjaws X 8GB 1600 (2 x 4GB) (x2) $120
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CPU Fan: Noctua NH-C12P SE14 $75
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GPU: EVGA GTX 580 Superclocked $480
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

HDD: Samsung Spinpoint F3 (x2) $120
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

SSD: Crucial M4 128GB SSD $220
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Optical Drive 01: Lite On DVD Burner iHAS424-98 LightScribe $25
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Optical Drive 02: Lite On Blu Ray Burner iHAS212-08 Lightscribe $115
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Monitors: ASUS VH238H 23" 1920x1080 (x2) $380
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Keyboard: Logitech G110 $65
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Mouse: Logitech G500 $50
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Total: $2500

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I will still be reading more and more posts here on tomshardware.com until it is purchase time which I am hoping will be the end of this month. Anyone else is welcome and encouraged to chime in with their thoughts and opinions on the overall build and parts selections.

Thanks for all of the help.
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August 20, 2011 10:39:06 PM

Hello once again everyone. My purchase window is closing in fast (End of month/Early September - can be pushed back) and I have opened more than enough room in my budget over the summer to buy/build a PC. The proposed build in the posts up above is a compilation of many previous posts and tons of research I did this summer. I think it is an excellent build. I have been thinking about and looking into the specific tasks I want to perform with my new PC and I have come up with the following.

I need a PC for 3 things:

From most to least important.

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1. Audio Software - I need to run Avid Pro Tools 9.

Windows System Requirements:

Computer: Avid-qualified Windows-based computer (see details)
System Software: Windows 7 Home Premium, Professional, or Ultimate (32 or 64-bit)
Windows 7 Service Pack 1 is officially qualified with Pro Tools 9.0.2 and higher
Total System RAM: 2GB minimum, 4GB or more recommended

Note for all Windows Desktops:
Only NVIDIA graphics cards are supported.

Supported Nvidia Graphics Cards
NVIDIA Quadro FX 4800 1.5GB PCIe video board
NVIDIA Quadro FX 3800 1.5GB PCIe video board
NVIDIA Quadro FX 1800 768MB PCIe video board
NVIDIA Quadro FX 580 512MB PCIe video board
NVIDIA Quadro NVS 290 256MB PCIe video board

Avid Links:
http://avid.custkb.com/avid/app/selfservice/search.jsp?...

http://avid.custkb.com/avid/app/selfservice/search.jsp?...

http://avid.custkb.com/avid/app/selfservice/search.jsp?...

I was reading this newly posted thread:
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/318789-31-best-build-...

The suggested build came out to $700. I know it is highly recommended to have a dedicated DAW that doesn't go online.

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2. Video/Photo Software - Adobe Creative Suite 5.5 Production Premium

Windows System Requirements:

64-bit support required: Intel® Pentium® 4 or AMD Athlon® 64 processor (Intel Core™ i3, i5, or i7 or AMD Phenom® II recommended); Intel Core 2 Duo or AMD Phenom II required for Adobe® Premiere® Pro
64-bit operating system required: Windows® 7
2GB of RAM (4GB or more recommended)
1280x900 display (1280x1024 recommended) with qualified hardware-accelerated OpenGL graphics card, 16-bit color, and 256MB of VRAM
Adobe-certified GPU card for GPU-accelerated performance in Adobe Premiere Pro
Some GPU-accelerated features in Adobe Photoshop® Extended require graphics support for Shader Model 3.0 and OpenGL 2.0
Some features in Adobe Bridge rely on a DirectX 9–capable graphics card with at least 64MB of VRAM
Java™ Runtime Environment 1.5 (32 bit) or 1.6

Supported NVIDIA graphics cards for GPU acceleration:

GeForce GTX 285 (Windows and Mac OS)
GeForce GTX 470 (Windows)
GeForce GTX 570 (Windows)
GeForce GTX 580 (Windows)
Quadro FX 3700M (Windows)
Quadro FX 3800 (Windows)
Quadro FX 3800M (Windows)
Quadro FX 4800 (Windows and Mac OS)
Quadro FX 5800 (Windows)
Quadro 2000 (Windows)
Quadro 2000D (Windows)
Quadro 2000M (Windows)
Quadro 3000M (Windows)
Quadro 4000 (Windows and Mac OS)
Quadro 4000M (Windows)
Quadro 5000 (Windows)
Quadro 5000M (Windows)
Quadro 5010M (Windows)
Quadro 6000 (Windows)
Quadro CX (Windows)

Adobe Links:
http://www.adobe.com/products/creativesuite/production/...

http://www.adobe.com/products/premiere/tech-specs.html

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3. Gaming - ARMA II Combined Operations (Specifically) with ARMA 3 in mind. Also interested in Battlefield 3, America's Army 3 and other Shooting games. The way I see it is - If I can run ARMA II, I should have no problem running any of the other mentioned games.

ARMA 2 System Requirements:

Optimal PC Requirements
CPU: Intel Core 2.8 GHz / AMD Athlon 64 X2 4400+ or faster
Quad Core CPU or Dual Core CPU (Intel Core 2.8 GHz, AMD Athlon 64 X2 4400 + or faster)
RAM: 2 GB
Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce 8800GT / ATI Radeon 4850 with Shader Model 3 and 512 MB VRAM or faster
OS: Windows XP or Vista

ARMA Links:
http://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_2:_System_Requi...

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I was wondering what you all would recommend. Should I build 2 or 3 task specific PCs or keep my all in one build? The cons I can think of for having more than 1 PC are things like: desk real estate, power connections, keyboards, mice and monitors.

If you make recommendations for task specific builds, please state wether it is for audio, video or gaming.

My budget has always been stated as $2500 but I think I can allot $1000 for each task specific build. Of course if it can be lower than $1000 that will be more than welcome.

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Here is a list of the parts I prefer:

Case: Corsair 650D, Cooler Master HAF X Series, And then open to any other. For the Audio Specific build the case needs to be 20.5 inches or lower in height.
PSU: Corsair AX Series, Seasonic X Series.
Mother Board: Any ASRock Z68 Motherboard but none higher than the ASRock Z68 Extreme4 Gen 3.
CPU: i7 2600K, i5 2500K.
RAM: Ripjaws X, Corsair Vengeance. Ripjaws are my first choice because they fit under the Noctua CPU Coolers.
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-C12P SE14, Noctua NH-D14 or any other Noctua Cooler.
GPU: EVGA GTX 580 Superclocked, EVGA GTX 570 Superclocked, MSI GTX 560 Ti Twin Frozr II, Quadro FX Cards.
HDD: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB
SSD: Crucial M4 128GB
Optical Drive 01: Lite On DVD Burner iHAS424-98 LightScribe
Optical Drive 02: Lite On Blu Ray Burner iHAS212-08 Lightscribe
Monitors: ASUS VH238H 23" 1920x1080
Keyboard: Logitech G110
Mouse: Logitech G500

Sorry for the length of the post but I want to make sure I get this done right. I appreciate any help or suggestions you may have.
Thank you in advance.
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August 20, 2011 11:35:52 PM

I think it would be better to stick with one computer for a couple of reasons.
1. Takes up a lot less space than three desktops.
2. I am almost 100% certain that this build can tackle everything on this demanding list haha :D 
3. It will not cost as much as having the three systems. Monitors, keyboards, mice, and speakers can turn out to be much more than expected.
4. One system uses much less energy than 3.
5. You might not have 3 available internet outlets. (unless you plan on making one or two wireless)
6. Making a desktop wireless, cuts down on speed, if its wired, its better :) 
7. Your electricity bill would spike a bit if you had 3 systems, rather than two.
8. Keeping all of these systems up to date would really be a hassle. (Upgrading them every 2 to 3 years! can't even imagine the price.)

Hopefully, I cleared it up for you a bit. Best of luck. :) 
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August 21, 2011 9:05:29 PM

Thanks for the reply.

Ultimately, I think I will end up getting the all in one PC. I'm still very curious to see how 2 separate builds would turn out and how much they would cost. I've been thinking of different setups/configurations and I came up with the following. This is mostly just entertaining a thought.

Audio Build:

Case: Fractal Design Refine R3 $110
PSU: Seasonic X Series 560W $130
Mother Board: ASRock Z68 Extreme4 Gen 3 $190
CPU: i7 2600K $315
RAM: Ripjaws X 2x8GB $60
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-C12P SE14 $75
GPU: EVGA GT 440 $80
HDD: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB (x2) $120
SSD: Crucial M4 128GB $210
Optical Drive 02: Lite On DVD Burner iHAS424-98 LightScribe $25

Total: $1300

I currently run Pro Tools 8.0 on my PowerMac G5, for the most part it is a dedicated audio computer and I like the idea of keeping my DAW separate. Video Editing and PC Gaming are new ventures for me. I'd like this audio build to be very stable, cool and quiet. I would probably only overclock in the future. I would like to know if it is possible to run dual monitors with the motherboard's onboard graphics. Something like 1 DVI & 1 HDMI or is it just one at a time. If I can use the onboard graphics, I could drop the GT 440. I chose the i7 2600K because I run tons of Virtual Instruments and Plug Ins in Pro Tools (Kontakt, Sampletank, T Racks, Izotope Ozone3, Izotope Trash, Serato Scratch, Traktor 3, etc.) within my sessions. The case and power supply can be changed accordingly. The motherboard needs to have a Firewire 400 port/IEEE 1394 port. I couldn't quite pinpoint another motherboard so I stayed with the one I had.

Here's a list of motherboards with IEEE 1394 ports:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=E...

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Video/Photo/Gaming Build:

Case: Corsair Obsidian 650D $190
PSU: Corsair AX850 $190
Mother Board: ASRock Z68 Extreme4 Gen 3 $190
CPU: i7 2600K $315
RAM: Ripjaws X 2x8GB (x2) $120
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-C12P SE14 $75
GPU: EVGA GTX 580 Superclocked $490
HDD: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB (x2) $120
SSD: Crucial M4 128GB $210
Optical Drive 02: Lite On Blu Ray Burner iHAS212-08 Lightscribe $130

Total: $2030

This build is basically a "Lite" version of my all in one build. I'd like some alternatives for the case and power supply.

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Monitors: ASUS VH238H 23" 1920x1080 (x2) $380
Keyboard: Logitech G110 $55
Mouse: Logitech G500 $50

Total: $485

I could plug one of the builds to the HDMI ports and the other to the DVI ports of the monitors. I could swap the keyboard cable from the front USB ports of each build (mouse will most likely be connected to keyboard). I have a couple of extra old keyboards & mice in the house if the cable swapping gets irritating or I can purchase new ones if necessary.

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Grand Total: $3815

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That grand total right there my friends is simply not in the budget. I am quite certain that a stand alone DAW is in my future though. I'd like to start getting an idea of how much of a PC I really need to run Pro Tools 9, VSTs, and Plug Ins. The all in one PC will become my dedicated Video/Photo/Gaming PC when I go the route of the stand alone DAW.

Thanks for reading through all of this and please leave any suggestions and comments you may have.
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August 29, 2011 3:51:27 AM

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