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August 7, 2011 10:40:49 PM

Hey I am at the point where I have to buy a new computer. Playing WoW on the lowest settings with zero addons is starting to get to me in 25 heroic raids. Also i really want to be able to play new games, which I have not been able to for a while.

Approximate Purchase Date: The closer the better. Have been saving and every paycheck adds more to my savings and just confuses me a little more.


Budget Range: Would like to get to close as 2k as possible including the monitor. After rebates.


System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming, surfing the internet, movies.


Parts Not Required: keyboard, mouse, speakers, OS. Already have this stuff in mind.


Preferred Website(s) for Parts: newegg.com, amazon, microcenter. I live in California so that affects which sites give me tax ect.


Country of Origin: United States.

Parts Preferences: Prefer Intel for cpu. Case im not to firm about one i looked at seemed simple and convienent. Not going to be firm here because I want other options/opinions. Monitor I especially need help with have not owned one in a while.


Overclocking: Yes

SLI or Crossfire: Not sure.


Monitor Resolution: 1920x1080 is most likely.

Additional Comments: I have not purchased a computer in quite a while so im fairly behind on information. Have been doing what i can to catch up but still feel in the weeds.

Parts I have so far.

Ram
G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 79.99

HDD
Western Digital WD Caviar Black 1 TB 89.21

SSD
128GB M4 Ssd 2.5" Sata 242.33

DVD/RW
LG DVD±RW 18.99

Heatsink
COOLER MASTER V6 GT 49.04 w MIR

Case
Obsidian Series 650D Mid Tower ATX Case 179.99

Power
Corsair CMPSU-850HX 850-Watt HX Professional Series 80 Plus Certified Power Supply 164.99

Graphics
EVGA 015-P3-1580-AR GeForce GTX 580 429.99 w MIR

Motherboard
ASUS LGA 1155 SATA 6Gbps USB 3.0 Supported Intel Z68 ATX DDR3 2400 Motherboards P8Z68-V PRO 199.99

$1634.61 with this set up so far not including taxes on certain purchases or shipping.

I also need a monitor i would prefer a 24 inch or bigger that would really go well with this set up or a better set up you can think of. I am not interested in the eyefinity setup of 3 monitors prefer just the 1 really nice one. And I might set up my current on as a second moniter so i can surf while playing games.

TY ahead of time for any imput you have, I desperately need it.
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August 7, 2011 11:03:30 PM

It may bust your budget, but consider a 30" 2560 x 1600 monitor. It is one of the few future proof computer purchases you can make today. A new one will cost you $1000.
Or, get a refurbished Samsung 305T for $900, perhaps less. Not only do they have twice the pixels of a 1080P monitor, but the panels have a wider viewing angle. You will still be looking at the monitor after several generations of pc's.

Your GTX580 will run it well.

To balance the cost, realize that a GTX580 requires only needs 600w with 42a on the 12v rails plus one 6-pin and one 8-pin PCI-E power lead.
If you were to ever upgrade, a GTX590 needs 700w with 50a on the 12v rails plus two 8-pin PCI-E power leads or 4 6-pin power leads.
A more modest psu will cost half as much.


But, the parts really look good as it is.
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August 7, 2011 11:32:39 PM

Ya those are out of my budget. Reason i had the higher PSU was because i was thinking that i can upgrade the comp later by adding a second 580 when i have the desire.

I would say 400-500 is max i can spend not factoring in reducing the PSU. Im glad that other then that so far its looking good tho. Thank you.
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August 7, 2011 11:53:57 PM

Nagarok said:
Ya those are out of my budget. Reason i had the higher PSU was because i was thinking that i can upgrade the comp later by adding a second 580 when i have the desire.

I would say 400-500 is max i can spend not factoring in reducing the PSU. Im glad that other then that so far its looking good tho. Thank you.


I think you might be looking at 900w PSU if you plan on getting a second GTTX580.
My plan would be to sell the GTX580 and replace it with a GTX590. Or, more likely, 28nm kepler will be available after the end of the year, and that would be a better graphics card.
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August 8, 2011 12:04:13 AM
August 8, 2011 3:01:56 AM

I apreciate the suggestion but for some reason i dont really like the eyefinity 3 moniter setup. Nothing wrong with it just not my preference. I am going to take up your suggestion on that ram though very nice deal.





Will switching to the 590 have a nice noticeable upgrade over the 580? Only thing stopping me is how big of a price step up it is.
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a b C Monitor
August 8, 2011 4:46:52 AM

Nagarok said:
I apreciate the suggestion but for some reason i dont really like the eyefinity 3 moniter setup. Nothing wrong with it just not my preference. I am going to take up your suggestion on that ram though very nice deal.





Will switching to the 590 have a nice noticeable upgrade over the 580? Only thing stopping me is how big of a price step up it is.

if you are seriously going with 1 monitor the max you will need is 2 560 ti's......
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a b C Monitor
August 8, 2011 4:57:43 AM

since you can afford the better ssd now get this ssd- http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Force-2-5-Inch-Solid-CSSD... it is also at newegg with a 25$ off promo code. but i hate paying taxes. stick it to the man haha.

get this psu- http://www.amazon.com/SilverStone-ATX12V-EPS12V-Silver-... only a 1 yr warranty on the lepa. and it isnt the greatest brand....

stick w/ the cpu and motherboard i posted

ram dvd and hard drive too

the case i still recommend it is a great one or the corsair 650d- http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Obsidian-Aluminum-Enthusi...

cpu cooler- http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Cooling-Hydro--High-Perfo... the corsair h60

with these fans- http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-120mm-Case-R4-C2R-2... get 2 of them and put them on your cpu cooler

2 of these 560 ti's- http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-Superclocked-PCI-Express-Gra...

now you've got yourself a beast for 1080p gaming and it looks so sharp too ;) 





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a b C Monitor
August 8, 2011 2:05:22 PM

Nagarok said:
I apreciate the suggestion but for some reason i dont really like the eyefinity 3 moniter setup. Nothing wrong with it just not my preference. I am going to take up your suggestion on that ram though very nice deal.





Will switching to the 590 have a nice noticeable upgrade over the 580? Only thing stopping me is how big of a price step up it is.


The GTX590 is a definite upgrade in graphics power.
But... If you will be using only one 1920 x 1200 monitor or a 1080P(1920x1080), then the increase will not be as noticeable.
You will be getting diminishing returns for your dollar. Most of the improvement will be in the form of lower minimum frame rates.

Remember that most lcd monitors refresh at 60hz. Some may do 120hz, but that is a stretch for even the best graphics configurations.
Lastly, many games are self capped at 60fps.
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August 10, 2011 6:49:00 PM

Alright so I have kind of made up my mind a little more what I want. Since i seemed to be fuzzy. I have the space to run 2 23 or 24 inch monitors. So that is the setup i would like to run, no way i can fit a 3rd one and that 3rd monitor seems just excess to me personally.

Here is what im pretty sure on now. I am most likely going to buy the microcenter deal today.

CPU I5-2500k
Motherboard Asus z68 Pro Microcenter combo sale 349.98

Ram
http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Vengeance-240-Pin-Platfor... 60.99

HDD
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Spinpoint-Cache-Desktop-H... $59.79

SSD
http://www.amazon.com/128GB-M4-Ssd-2-5-Sata/dp/B004W2JL... 229.99

DVD/RW
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... 18.99

Heatsink
http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-Sleeve-RR-B10... 27.66

Case
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml... 179.99


927.39 is total so far.

Things im confused about are Graphics and monitors. Was now looking at 2 570s dont know if thats overkill or if something else would work better for just 2 monitors. Or if i should just buy 1 good card and just wait to upgrade to another card when I need to or if 1 good card by itself can run the 2 monitors. Power supply is dependant on which cards i get but I know I would like one that is modular.

Suggestions on monitors would also be apreciated would like 2x 23 or 24inchers like I said at the begining.
My goal is still 2k can go over a little but do not break 2100.

Sorry im almost reposting my whole topic I just keep confusing myself, again any imput is apreciated.
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a b C Monitor
August 10, 2011 7:50:59 PM

Most monitors today will be 1080P(1920 x 1080). The diagonal size is irrelevant.

Two monitors is very useful, and is a cheap way to increase your display real estate.

When gaming, the game will run on the primary monitor, and the other can still hold static stuff like e-mail and monitors.

I have two 2560 x 1600 monitors on a single GTX580 and it runs just fine.

I do not see sli as necessary unless you are into triple monitor gaming.
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