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Can I use an IDE dvd drive with a SATA Hard drive?

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August 8, 2011 10:26:56 PM

I dont exact knwo how to connect it and I need help!
I know you connect the IDE to the drive and then to the mother board
I know you connect the SATA to the HARD drive then to one of the sata 6.0 points on the motherboard
But how would i get the hard drive to be able to know im play a game and to save if they are not connected?
Does the dvd drive send info through the motherboard and it send info to the hard drive?
Basically, I wanna know would installing Windows 7 be a problem because it can find a hard drive to install to.
Please reply! :( 

-Newb Pc Builder
August 8, 2011 10:41:47 PM

Without getting into too much detail you have pretty much answered your own question. IDE to drive and then to motherboard. SATA to hard drive then SATA point on motherboard. Just check that they are both set to master (on jumper settings at back of cases) and that they are both seen correctly in your bios. Your PC will deal with the rest.
a b B Homebuilt system
August 8, 2011 10:45:41 PM

if you have an IDE port on your board, you can use the IDE Drive.

If you have a modern board (AMD 9xx, Intel H61/67/P67/Z68) then there is no IDE.
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August 8, 2011 10:46:12 PM

so i need one of those white things (called a jumper right?) on the back of the hard drive to? If you can post a picture please :) 
a b B Homebuilt system
August 8, 2011 10:52:58 PM

should already be there actually.

something like this though:
August 8, 2011 10:53:52 PM

ScrewySqrl said:
if you have an IDE port on your board, you can use the IDE Drive.

If you have a modern board (AMD 9xx, Intel H61/67/P67/Z68) then there is no IDE.


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... That is the link to the motherboard i'm getting.
Look at the picture where the view is overtop the motherboard in the lower left corner I see this pink slot is that an IDE? It doesn't say so but looks like one a little.
a b B Homebuilt system
August 8, 2011 10:58:17 PM

yes, it has an IDE port
a b B Homebuilt system
August 8, 2011 11:02:56 PM

That's a SATA drive. Those don't use jumpers. IDE used jumpers because you can use up to 2 drives per IDE connection, a Master drive and a Slave Drive (really just 0 and 1)
August 8, 2011 11:32:03 PM

ScrewySqrl said:
That's a SATA drive. Those don't use jumpers. IDE used jumpers because you can use up to 2 drives per IDE connection, a Master drive and a Slave Drive (really just 0 and 1)


im going to put the jumper (on the dvd drive) on master because i have 1 dvd drive lol
So, I connect dvd drive to motherboard using IDE and connect hard drive to motherboard using SATA and Windows 7 should have no problem install from the disk?
August 8, 2011 11:32:54 PM

ScrewySqrl said:
yes, it has an IDE port


And so the Pink port in the lower-left corner is an IDE? :) 
August 9, 2011 8:20:46 AM

ScrewySqrl said:
yes, it has an IDE port


Dont want to disagree with you ScrewySqrl but I have had a close look at that board and I cannot see an IDE connector anywhere.
a b B Homebuilt system
August 9, 2011 12:59:25 PM

^ Concur
Looked @ MB, do not see a IDE connector. Specs do not reflect a IDE storage capability.

Two options. One Buy a PCI card that provides IDE support, or two, buy a IDE -> USB enclosure and use the drive as a External drive.

Added:
IDE card: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Enclosure: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Ide->Sata cables: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=E...

It might be a good idea unless you need the data off of the IDE HDD to just buy a SATA II HDD.
ie a 1 TB Samsung F3 is only $50 ; http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
You can find cheaper lower capacity drives out there. But not worth if, ie $40 for a 160/320 Gig drive. $10 cheaper BUT WAY smaller in capacity

August 9, 2011 1:36:04 PM

You could also get a ide - sata converter cable or just buy a sata dvd/rw drive - there so inexpensive now.
August 9, 2011 7:00:58 PM

RetiredChief said:
^ Concur
Looked @ MB, do not see a IDE connector. Specs do not reflect a IDE storage capability.

Two options. One Buy a PCI card that provides IDE support, or two, buy a IDE -> USB enclosure and use the drive as a External drive.

Added:
IDE card: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Enclosure: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Ide->Sata cables: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=E...

It might be a good idea unless you need the data off of the IDE HDD to just buy a SATA II HDD.
ie a 1 TB Samsung F3 is only $50 ; http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
You can find cheaper lower capacity drives out there. But not worth if, ie $40 for a 160/320 Gig drive. $10 cheaper BUT WAY smaller in capacity


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Good Drive?
a b B Homebuilt system
August 9, 2011 7:10:19 PM

ScrewySqrl said:
if you have an IDE port on your board, you can use the IDE Drive.

If you have a modern board (AMD 9xx, Intel H61/67/P67/Z68) then there is no IDE.


this 9-series mobo has an IDE port :p  :
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

so does this Z68 board:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

so does this H67 board:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

and this P67:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

but yeah i get your point.
a b B Homebuilt system
August 10, 2011 12:19:07 AM

The WD Blue 500 gig HDD is OK @ $42, But for $8 more The Samsung F3 is double the
size and a Better drive (F3 is on sale, it's normally around $62). The Samsung is a sata II, the WD blue is Sata III. The SATA III HDDs is more a marketing ploy as the ONLY improvement is in the Burst rate - Day-to-Day usage - NO diff.

I Was a fan of WD Black drives, have switched to samsung F3 drives.
August 10, 2011 1:15:14 AM

RetiredChief said:
The WD Blue 500 gig HDD is OK @ $42, But for $8 more The Samsung F3 is double the
size and a Better drive (F3 is on sale, it's normally around $62. The Samsung is a sata II, the WD blue is Sata III. The SATA III HDDs is more a marketi9ng ploy as the ONLY improvement is in the Burst rate - Day-to-Day usage - NO diff.

I Was a fan of WD Black drives, have switched to samsung F3 drives.

Having a better or worse hard drive only affects how fast something loads right..if SO buying the drive you recommended vs the one i've choose is there a big difference in how fast they load
a b B Homebuilt system
August 10, 2011 2:38:24 AM

Probably the Samsung F3 would be slightly higher performance.
! - It has twice the cache 32 MB vs 16 MB for the WD.
2 - being a 1 Tb drive the F3 will have twice the amount of space in the outer area of the plater - Read/write speed is higher at the outer edge of a platter than data that is located near the center.
August 10, 2011 2:50:05 AM

ok
a b B Homebuilt system
August 10, 2011 3:13:45 PM

RetiredChief said:
Probably the Samsung F3 would be slightly higher performance.
! - It has twice the cache 32 MB vs 16 MB for the WD.
2 - being a 1 Tb drive the F3 will have twice the amount of space in the outer area of the plater - Read/write speed is higher at the outer edge of a platter than data that is located near the center.



actually the F3 1TB has 2 500 GB Platters, the 500 GB is 1 500 GB platter. no significant speed difference there due to size.
a b B Homebuilt system
August 10, 2011 6:43:56 PM

Not sure what you said is correct.
!) 20% of outer Circumference for two 500 Gig platters is 200 gigs
2) 20% of single 500 gig platter is 100 gigs.

This 20 % will have considerably greater read/write performance compared to the inter 20% (Angular velocity)

Here is a comparison of samsung F3 performance (Note Beats WD Black 1 TB drive which is about 5% faster than a WD Blue 1 TB drive. The 500 gig WD drive is slower than the 1TB WD drive.
http://techreport.com/articles.x/19330/3

One parameter that the WD Sata III on a Sata III port) would beat the F3 is in burst speed - This to me would not be a biggy. As I said, use to buy WD black - Don't even consider a "Blue or Green Model for performance. I have switched to the F3.
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