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August 10, 2011 12:06:26 AM

I bought this motherboard thinking it could sli. A friend recommended it to me and i realized that it couldnt... This is the Motherboard i got

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Im wanting to build it to a great gaming machine.

Heres the other parts ive got in mind. please let me know if there compatible.

Case-DF-85-HERE
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Motherboard-ON WAY
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Harddrive-ON WAY
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU-Looking for long cords for easy cable routing
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Processor- (I want a 6 core)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Ram- 8 gigs all i need right? :) 
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...



Im not really worried about the Theme or anything like that. Aslong as the case is looking good thats all i care about really :) 


)VIDEO CARD(
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
I thought this looked ok Im not sure if itll support everything Considering its a gddr5... Help me with this thanks guys i appreciate this ALOT :p 

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August 10, 2011 2:17:21 AM

anyone got any ideas?
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August 10, 2011 11:23:18 AM

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August 10, 2011 11:35:45 AM

if your looking for good cable management why not go for this modular PSU?:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

this ram would be a better option:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

and it leaves space if you ever want to upgrade to 16GB in the future .

that mobos not the best and i wouldn't have reccommended it, but its ok i geuss.

no CPU cooler? your getting such a good rig but no cooler?:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

they are compatible btw and this card would be a much better option for a similar price:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

and next time i would reccommend waiting 2 day atleast before bumping your post...
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August 10, 2011 4:26:27 PM

Can you RMA the board? I would do that and build a rig based on the i5-2500k, which, at stock speeds, is the best gaming CPU available, let alone the overclocking potential. It's only $25 more, which can be made up by choosing a less expensive motherboard capable of supporting two GPUs.

If that's not an option, or if you are just stuck on having a 6-core AMD chip, then ps3's suggestions are good ones.
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August 10, 2011 4:34:32 PM

Trust me I wish I could rma the board but newegg says limited return policy no refunds but if defective they will replace... this blows guess ill have to go with crossfire... grr
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August 10, 2011 5:01:41 PM

Sweet I just called newegg got a email number and shipping label I've got to wait like a week do order a new motherboard now which motherboard do u guys recommend me getting I'm fixed on the processor I'm getting up above. I want to sli.
I like the modular psu you recommended. I will be updating my list minus the motherboard. I see u listed two motherboards as far as my motherboard cash I can spend 200 on it not counting shipping thx
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August 10, 2011 5:46:41 PM

bellard said:
Trust me I wish I could rma the board but newegg says limited return policy no refunds but if defective they will replace... this blows guess ill have to go with crossfire... grr


Shoot an email to Newegg. They're pretty good to their customers. Tell them you need a board that allows SLI. What's the worst they can say? No? Oh well. And what's wrong with Crossfire? Is it just personal preference? Did you know that Crossfire actually scales better than SLI? AMD cards are typically less expensive than their nVidia counterparts and generally use less power, thus they run cooler. Their is better competition in the GPU market compared to the CPU market. Therefore, I think the AMD vs. nVidia argument is less relevant than Intel vs. AMD. Besides, a single high-end GPU (ie: HD 6970, GTX 570, GTX 580) will run any game on a single 1080p monitor at near-max settings as long as it isn't bottlenecked by the CPU.
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August 10, 2011 5:49:44 PM

Well I'm going to have a 6core processor 3.7... as far as bottle necking I should b ok right?
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August 10, 2011 6:08:11 PM

Congrats on the successful RMA! I get that you want a hexacore, but games don't use more than 4 cores. Plus, the Sandy Bridge architecture is so much better than Phenom's....

But, if you must, I would recommend the Gigabyte board that lp231 linked.
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August 10, 2011 6:16:00 PM

Ok here what I'm aiming for a gaming comp that I can run Max settings on. I don't want to have to upgrade for a decade. My spending limit is 1000 I've already got my case and HD looking at the motherboard now that you suggested ill be ordering $450 worth of parts Sunday and want to know what I should order if u guys say six cores is to much and no games will ever use it. I trust you. So as far as theme I could care less BUT I am a fan of blinking leds lol. Help me build a comp I won't have to upgrade for a while btw my case is df-85 thanks again. Forgive grammar on droid
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August 10, 2011 6:17:04 PM

bellard said:
Well I'm going to have a 6core processor 3.7... as far as bottle necking I should b ok right?


Forget that it's a 6-core CPU for a moment. Think of it as an expensive quad core while you are gaming...you will not use all six cores. I know that can be confusing, but games are typically not written to use more than three threads (cores to the CPU). Also that 3.7 is only reached on single-threaded applications unless you overclock. That being said, I don't think an 1100T will bottleneck (at least noticeably) a high-end GPU. But, there is a reason Tom's uses an overclocked i5-2500k or i7-2600k when they benchmark components. They are the best CPUs currently available for gaming, and for overall computing for that matter. Dude, I'm an AMD fan. But I do recognize that they are waaaay behind when it comes to CPUs. Hopefully Bulldozer will help, but I doubt it.
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August 10, 2011 6:54:05 PM

I doubt it will last a decade, but it should do well for a few years anyway.

CPU: Intel Core i5-2500k
Motherboard: MSI P67A-G45
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
$332.98 ($20 MIR available), $7.87 shipping

CPU Cooler: CoolerMaster Hyper 212+
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$27.99, free shipping

RAM: 8GB Patriot 1600 C9 1.5v
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$59.99, free shipping

GPU: EVGA GTX 570
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$329.99 ($20 MIR available), free shipping

PSU: Antec High Current Gamer 750w
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$94.99 ($25 MIR available), free shipping
*Modular is nice, but you pay a premium for it

OS: Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$99.99, free shipping

Total: $953.80 shipped, $888.80 after rebates

The motherboard and PSU will allow for the addition of a GTX 570 down the road to help boost performance. You should be able to hit 4.5GHz on the CPU with that Hyper 212+.

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August 10, 2011 7:39:07 PM

Great thanks bud! Question windows home. What's the difference in ultimate n home same friend recommended ultimate to me. As far as the psu what does the word modular mean in terms of pays? If its a good thing I don't mind dishing out a few extra coin for it. Thx again I'm prob ordering these parts
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August 10, 2011 8:21:26 PM

bellard said:
Great thanks bud! Question windows home. What's the difference in ultimate n home same friend recommended ultimate to me. As far as the psu what does the word modular mean in terms of pays? If its a good thing I don't mind dishing out a few extra coin for it. Thx again I'm prob ordering these parts


modular means you can remove extra cables you don't need allowing for better cable management and better airflow (i wish i had paid thatextra bit for it now :/ )
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August 10, 2011 8:24:38 PM

Ultimate offers Windows XP virtualization and supports more memory. There may be some other features, but that's what sticks out the most. However, XP virtualization is a pain and you won't have more that 16GB of RAM, which is supported in Home Premium. Ultimate isn't worth the extra cost.

Modular, when referring to a PSU, means that you can choose which cables are plugged in. There are three levels of this...non-modular, semi-modular, and fully-modular. The PSU I linked is non-modular, meaning all of the cables are hard wired into the unit itself. Semi-modular PSUs, like what ps3hacker linked, have the most important cables hard wired in, leaving those for the components optional (included in the purchase, but you don't have to plug them unless you are using them.) A fully modular PSU, like this Seasonic X 750 leaves all of the cables modular. Modular units help reduce clutter in your case, which increases airflow, resulting in better-cooled components. The downside is, they cost more. Below are my recommendations for each "class."

Non -- Same as earlier, Antec High Current Gamer 750w
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Semi -- XFX 750w XXX Edition
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Full -- Seasonic X750
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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August 10, 2011 9:42:16 PM

Hunter your being a BIG help Im thinking your going to be the Doc delivering this baby LOL :)  ill post up my Wishlist of what im getting With your recommendations.

Antec DF-85 Black ATX Full Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


MOTHERBOARD AND PROCC- COMBO
https://secure.newegg.com/WishList/MySavedWishDetail.as...


SeaSonic X750 Gold 750W ATX12V V2.3/EPS 12V V2.91 SLI Ready 80 PLUS
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...



EVGA 012-P3-1570-AR GeForce GTX 570 (Fermi) 1280MB 320-bit
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
(This says 320-bit Does the high bit rate make up for the 1280mb? was wanting 2gigs but noticed the 320 bit)



Patriot Signature 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...



COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus RR-B10-212P-G1
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


LG DVD Burner Black SATA Model GH24NS70 - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...



Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty Professional
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...



Rosewill RTK-045 45 Piece Premium Computer Tool Kit
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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August 11, 2011 1:17:44 AM

There are a couple things I noticed....

1. Don't worry about the smaller amount of RAM on the vid card. 1280MB is plenty for a single display. More RAM might be noticeable gaming in Surround (3 monitors, you'd need SLI for this anyway) mode or at a 2560x1600 resolution.

2. Drop the toolkit. All you need is a Philips screwdriver, a sidecutters or scissors (for snipping zip-ties), and a 5mm nut driver (installing motherboard standoffs). Build this on your kitchen table wearing rubber-soled sneakers, and ground yourself to the case ofter (touch any bare metal).

3. Didn't notice a power supply.

4. Drop the sound card and save some cash. Onboard audio is plenty good enough for gaming.
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August 11, 2011 1:49:37 AM

There i edited last post and added my PSU :) 
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August 11, 2011 7:35:47 PM

There I just ordered the seasonic x750 gold fully modular
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August 11, 2011 8:05:41 PM

Nice choice. What about that SB Fatal1ty?
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August 11, 2011 8:42:52 PM

I'm going to wait on ordering the soundcard. I'm hoping the psu cords are long enough lol :)  will the 750w power my system with sli 570s ?
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August 12, 2011 2:02:08 PM

bellard said:
I'm going to wait on ordering the soundcard. I'm hoping the psu cords are long enough lol :)  will the 750w power my system with sli 570s ?


Smart move on the sound card. And yes, a 750w PSU will power SLI 570s. Click the link below, look at the "Power Consumption" chart, and find the bar that shows the power draw of two-way SLI 570s.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/crossfire-sli-3-way...
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August 12, 2011 2:10:47 PM

Good news to me on sli yay. Correct me if I'm wrong but the combo processor and motherboard
Is Intel how can I use nvidia cards with Intel I thought they were strictly amd did something change? Or am I nieve
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August 12, 2011 2:13:09 PM

bellard said:
Good news to me on sli yay. Correct me if I'm wrong but the combo processor and motherboard
Is Intel how can I use nvidia cards with Intel I thought they were strictly amd did something change? Or am I nieve


intel works with ATI/AMD cards as well as Nvidia cards, same with AMD proccessors working with Nvidia or AMD/ATIcards just fine.
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August 12, 2011 2:20:03 PM

Just want to order everything right ;)  btw the motherboard in that combo is good right the price is a little low.
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August 12, 2011 2:36:47 PM

Intel and nVidia had issues a while ago, but I think all is well now. Hmmm...maybe not "well," but resolved anyway.

As far as that MSI board goes, it just lacks some features of higher-priced boards. It does have everything you need, though: ATX form factor, P67 B3, SLI capability, USB 3.0, SATA III, and a 3-year warranty. I wouldn't suggest a really aggressive CPU overclock on it, but it should be stable in the low- to mid-4s.

If you want a higher-end board, let us know and we'll give you a few recommendations.
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August 12, 2011 2:52:21 PM

I don't want a cheap MB I want one that's compatible. I don't plan on overclocking the video cards but maybe CPU much latervdown the road. I want sli support
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August 12, 2011 3:11:26 PM

Well, it is inexpensive. But....it is compatible, supports SLI, and will allow you to overclock your CPU. What's wrong with that?
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August 12, 2011 3:33:04 PM

Oh nothing is wrong with it at all I like it. People have been saying n reviews that once you slightly its hard to hook up sata cables. I'm just trying to buy the right stuff the first time. After all this is alot of money lol. Thank you for your advice it is very much appreciated and needed
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August 12, 2011 3:59:30 PM

Looking back, it sounds like I took offense to your questioning that board. I didn't. I understand...it took me a few weeks to finalize my rig when I was buying it. Here's a good alternative CPU/Mobo combo, though it is more expensive.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
$379.98 plus $7.87 shipping.

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August 13, 2011 11:45:36 AM

I think I like the combo with the Mai p67a-g645 motherboard
Only thing I don't like about it is on the sli side I've did a little research on this mobo people say slied. The second video card runs at 8x?? This normal? If this is I'm definitely going to order this combo
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August 13, 2011 12:53:32 PM

bellard said:
I think I like the combo with the Mai p67a-g645 motherboard
Only thing I don't like about it is on the sli side I've did a little research on this mobo people say slied. The second video card runs at 8x?? This normal? If this is I'm definitely going to order this combo


in real world performance with the sandy bridge chipsets x8 and x16 makes no real world difference even x4 scaling is down to just a few FPS (3-4).
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August 13, 2011 11:19:50 PM

Ok so its nothing spectacular? ok cool Btw i had this Zalman fan that ive had for a long time just sitting around is it known to be good? I never got a chance to mount it was to big for last case.

Ok so heres my setup finalized.


ZALMAN CNPS9500A-LED 92mm 2 Ball CPU Cooler
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Antec DF-85 Black ATX Full Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

MOTHERBOARD AND PROCC- COMBO
https://secure.newegg.com/WishList/MySavedWishDetail.as...



SeaSonic X750 Gold 750W ATX12V V2.3/EPS 12V V2.91 SLI Ready 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...



EVGA 012-P3-1570-AR GeForce GTX 570 (Fermi) 1280MB 320-bit
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
(This says 320-bit Does the high bit rate make up for the 1280mb? was wanting 2gigs but noticed the 320 bit)



Patriot Signature 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...



COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus RR-B10-212P-G1
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


LG DVD Burner Black SATA Model GH24NS70 - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

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