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June 7, 2011 2:10:55 PM

Hello people's
I need your opinion. gonna buy a computer, I love rpg games, don't have much money, so this is the configuration:

intel pentium e5700 (2x3GHZ)
nVidia 220 gt(1Gb ram)
4GB ram ddr3 kingston

Is there a better solution, for the similar price?
My priority is Elder Scrolls 5 - Skyrim. :)  Will i be able to play it with this, considering it will be out in november?
a b U Graphics card
June 7, 2011 2:38:21 PM

What's your budget and target resolution?

Cheers!
a b U Graphics card
June 7, 2011 2:52:00 PM

Should be able to do better the e5700 and the 220gt are pretty low end parts at this point and will probably have trouble with SKYRIM if it is anything like OB (though hopefully the new engine will be more optimized) -- as Yuka asked what is your overall budget ? - where do you live and what currency ? can you assemble it or know someone that can help or need it pre built ? Do you have any reuseable parts already ? (ie. Windows OS - Keyboard - Monitor - Mouse - Case - DVD drive - HDD - Speakers - etc. -- as those can bring the cost of the build down or up) what size monitor will you be using (resolution)
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a b U Graphics card
June 7, 2011 2:53:14 PM

I personally would look at an AMD Phenom II quad core, and used the money saved toward a better video card.
a b U Graphics card
June 7, 2011 2:59:31 PM

Look at a triple core or quad core Athlon II, it will give you more cores for less money, which is what's needed in modern gaming.

The GT 220 will not play Skyrim at all. You'll be needing at least a GTX 460 / 5770 for Skyrim; and that's not even high settings.

The 4GB RAM is good, make sure it's a good make (like you have done).
June 7, 2011 4:42:10 PM

Yuka said:
What's your budget and target resolution?

Cheers!


thanks for helping guys :) 

My top budget is 500 euros.

I live in Montenegro, euro currency.

I already have mouse, keyboards, speakers and monitor.

My target resolution is 1024x768, but even 800x600 will do, I'm used to it.

I would also like an SLI technology motherboard, for later graphic upgrades. Is it within my reach?
a c 216 U Graphics card
June 7, 2011 6:44:49 PM

Do you plan to upgrade your monitor anytime soon? If not, you shouldn't need to worry about crossfire or sli at all. Save yourself money on the motherboard and put it towards better parts.

Check out this build. This was $500, which is less than your budget, but costs may not be as good where you live, so it should be a good setup for you.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/budget-gaming-pc-ph...

Edit: Forgot link
a b U Graphics card
June 7, 2011 7:00:01 PM

danilovul said:
thanks for helping guys :) 

My top budget is 500 euros.

I live in Montenegro, euro currency.

I already have mouse, keyboards, speakers and monitor.

My target resolution is 1024x768, but even 800x600 will do, I'm used to it.

I would also like an SLI technology motherboard, for later graphic upgrades. Is it within my reach?


Well, for that target resolution, a 6670 will be plenty and will be able to push it even at 1440x900 or 1280x1024 IMO.

As for the rest of the computer; I like the AthlonII X4 way: AthlonII X4 640 + 4GB DDR3 1600 + 990FX (or X) MoBo (to get a next gen processor down the road) or a 790FX (AM3) MoBo (u can find very cheap ones lately).

That should give you good FPS's for a very long time and if you need to upgrade, you can do it without changing the whole computer. If u're CPU bound, you can get a Phenom II X4/6 (or a Bulldozer based Zambezi CPU on a 990FX) on a later occasion.

If think it should be quite cheap, since you don't need a beefy PSU with that; an Antec 380 should be plenty for that kind of system.

EDIT: The links are for reference only, btw :p 

bystander said:
Do you plan to upgrade your monitor anytime soon? If not, you shouldn't need to worry about crossfire or sli at all. Save yourself money on the motherboard and put it towards better parts.

Check out this build. This was $500, which is less than your budget, but costs may not be as good where you live, so it should be a good setup for you.


Think you forgot the link, bro XD!

Cheers!
June 7, 2011 7:30:30 PM

yes, I get it. So, no need for new monitor, no need for SLI. I think am gonna save on motherboard and go for a phenom and stronger graphic card. It makes sense now.

Thanks a lot you guys. :) 
June 7, 2011 8:43:17 PM

Athlon II X3 overclocked, i am sure will do fine with Elder's.
June 7, 2011 8:51:09 PM

ohiou_grad_06 said:
I personally would look at an AMD Phenom II quad core, and used the money saved toward a better video card.

You could also take a risk in getting a Dual Core, and a mobo with a core unlocker, since nowadays the demand for dual cores are quite high, they've been sealing up perfectly good quad cores. It costs less, but you can attempt to risk it.

I'm running a AMD Phenom II x2 555 BE with Core Unlocker. I've heard stories of it working, but I got a real dual core :'C
June 7, 2011 9:33:01 PM

Did anyone try nVidia 450 GTS?
a b U Graphics card
June 7, 2011 10:03:00 PM

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gts-450-gf1...

That's a very representative game overall I'd say: it taxes CPUs and GPUs a lot, so the GTS450 is on the same league as the 5770/6790/6850, but a lil' lower.

But if you're aiming a lil' higher, then get the 5770, since is the best buy nowadays. The Antec I linked, should cope with it just fine (or the GTS450, for the matter).

Cheers!
June 8, 2011 1:33:27 AM

Yea, if you'r in a budget AMD is the best sub $300 system Mobo, CPU and GPU. $70, 70-100, and 150.
June 10, 2011 11:45:44 AM

It was a very limited offer of graphics cards in my town. I couldn't find much. Anyway, i bought 6670, but now, when I check the device manager, it says -
AMD Radeon HD 6600 series. Is that the same card?
a b U Graphics card
June 10, 2011 2:01:09 PM

If you are willing to take a chance on a rebate, check out this GTS 450. 115-rebates=75 dollar card that competes in the same league as a 5750-5770. I've got one of these cards, my 2nd galaxy card, and overall I'm happy with it. Only thing I would do, use evga's precision software to increase fan speed to 50% and leave it there. That's what I did on my card, and it stays much cooler, very happy with my card, now just need a cpu upgrade to finish off my aging 5 year old rig, thankfully I can still put a quad into my old box though.
a b U Graphics card
June 10, 2011 2:04:21 PM

Im pretty sure skyrim will run on somethign lower than a 460 or 5770 - it will be on xbox which uses a 1900xt i believe...
June 10, 2011 2:13:35 PM

FlintIronStagg said:
Im pretty sure skyrim will run on somethign lower than a 460 or 5770 - it will be on xbox which uses a 1900xt i believe...

But Todd (lead dev) has already stated that they will optimize and improve it for PC users, indicating that it'll run higher settings, having been asked by the PC community to do so. Ergo we can assume(/hope) it'll take maximum advantage of a whole range of hardware, but there is a possibility that even on the PC version's lowest/default settings, the requirements may be a little/significantly higher (the team has stated they're aiming for maximum detail and quality.)

-Nih
a b U Graphics card
June 10, 2011 2:35:14 PM

true, but look at metro 2033. On high end it blows your systems mind, but regular settings can play on a 9800M ( ive seen a friend run it smoothly on his laptop).
June 10, 2011 4:43:36 PM

I wanted gts 450, but there is none in my country at the moment :) 

so , I got 6670. I am gonna test it on oblivion tonight. It should be max everithing.. right?
a b U Graphics card
June 10, 2011 5:48:51 PM

Yes, it should. Remember Oblivion loves a lot of RAM too.

And if it says "6600 series" then it's fine. AMD and nVidia make drivers for "series" of cards with similar hardware. Imagine having an specific driver for each card created, ugh, the hell xD

Anyway, tell us how it goes!

Cheers!
June 10, 2011 6:03:50 PM

thanks. I will :) 
June 10, 2011 11:06:02 PM

well, I tried the 1024x768 resolution, with anti-aliasing x8 and bloom, max distance, grass, shadows and everything else that can be maximised

played for one hour, and it went perfectly smooth. :) ))

I didn't try higher resolutions, since I have an old LG 17' monitor. I doubt it would look good.
a b U Graphics card
June 10, 2011 11:52:54 PM

Glad to read it, bro.

Cheers!
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