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JRYezierski wrote:
> Is there a way of determining what the color of something is from an old
> black+white photo?

No. But old B&W film was insensitive to red, so if the house is light
colored you can eliminate red as a possibility.

Bob

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If the house is still standing, you might check with the new owners and take
a paint scraping. I believe there are instructions on how to do it on the
this old house site.


"JRYezierski" <jryez@charter.net> wrote in message
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> Is there a way of determining what the color of something is from an old
> black+white photo?
> I have an old b+w of my grandparents house and I would like to know what
> the original color was. They are deceased and no family member knows what
> the color was.
>
> I have photoimpact software with microtek scanmaker6000.
> Thanks
> Jerome
>

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"Owamanga" <owamanga(not-this-bit)@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 10:24:50 -0500, "JRYezierski" <jryez@charter.net>
> wrote:
>
>>Is there a way of determining what the color of something is from an old
>>black+white photo?
>>I have an old b+w of my grandparents house and I would like to know what
>>the
>>original color was. They are deceased and no family member knows what the
>>color was.
>>
>>I have photoimpact software with microtek scanmaker6000.
>
> Check the EXIF data on the old photo. If it was tagged correctly it
> should have a description, something like:
>
> "Grampa Mojo's 'canary yellow with green twiddley bits' house."

It's a trick. Everything actually was in black and white until about 1952,
when it all turned to color.

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JRYezierski wrote:
> Is there a way of determining what the color of something is from an old
> black+white photo?
> I have an old b+w of my grandparents house and I would like to know what the
> original color was. They are deceased and no family member knows what the
> color was.
>
> I have photoimpact software with microtek scanmaker6000.
> Thanks
> Jerome

Mmm... here's a thought and something worth trying. Find a colour-blind
person, maybe a few, and ask them what colour they think the house is.

Worth a try as I have to "guess" a lot of colours most times ;-)

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On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 19:18:30 GMT
Matt Ion <soundy@moltenimage.com> wrote:

> Hey, you must be one of the two dozen people who saw
> "Pleasantville"!

AAAaaarrrrgggg!

Runs screaming from building, holding head, trying to forget the
agony that was "pleasantville" in the cinemas...

-Chris D

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On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 00:47:18 GMT, Matt Ion <soundy@moltenimage.com>
wrote:

>Chris D wrote:
>> On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 19:18:30 GMT
>> Matt Ion <soundy@moltenimage.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Hey, you must be one of the two dozen people who saw
>>>"Pleasantville"!
>>
>>
>> AAAaaarrrrgggg!
>>
>> Runs screaming from building, holding head, trying to forget the
>> agony that was "pleasantville" in the cinemas...
>
>Hey, it was a good way to tell if someone was a virgin or not: once they
>get laid, they appear in color! (Which doesn't explain the parents, but...)

You played that game, others played I-spy. I swear there were people
in the back row trying to roast a chicken over candlelight, and one
guy had constructed a scale model of Tokyo City entirely out of
pop-corn and gum. A small group of children next to me had started a
new religion, feverishly praying for the holy rolling credits, and my
buddy was seriously considering settling down and starting a family
with one of the cleaning staff.

It was definitely the most tedious film I've seen in the last 10
years. And one of only 2 lifetime 'walk-outs'. It was the worst 3
weeks I've ever spent in a cinema.

--
Owamanga!
http://www.pbase.com/owamanga

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Is there really any need to launch the insults?
I thought this group would know if it was possible to change a photo from
b+w to color.They have colorized old movies so I thought someone here would
know how to change an old photo.

I do thank the suggestion of getting a old paint chip and looking in the
layers. This Old House site wasn't very easy to move around in for what I
was looking for but thanks anyways.
Having a color blind person look at it is an idea that may work.

Asking neighbors wouldn't work as they are either dead or were not even born
when this photo was taken,early 1900's.

"Ron" <rkgood@charter.net> wrote in message
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> Take some LSD and view your grandparents' house from a neighbor's roof.
> Fly around it a couple of times to see all sides and then take a guess.
> The other option is to go visit the neighborhood and ask some
> questions. I'd suggest the latter.
>

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On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 10:16:01 -0500, "JRYezierski" <jryez@charter.net>
wrote:

>Is there really any need to launch the insults?
>I thought this group would know if it was possible to change a photo from
>b+w to color.They have colorized old movies so I thought someone here would
>know how to change an old photo.

Usually, with colorized movies, one of two things happen...
There could well be color stills taken that are used to determine what
colors to use.
They simply guess. Skin tones are usually a no-brainer, and clothes,
if not described in the movie itself, don't matter. Inanimate objects
take their clues from the movie, or are simply picked to look good.

IMO, in your case, unless you can find an authority (liek a color pic
or paint chip or someone who knows), you're pretty much out of luck.
>
>I do thank the suggestion of getting a old paint chip and looking in the
>layers. This Old House site wasn't very easy to move around in for what I
>was looking for but thanks anyways.
>Having a color blind person look at it is an idea that may work.
>
>Asking neighbors wouldn't work as they are either dead or were not even born
>when this photo was taken,early 1900's.
>
>"Ron" <rkgood@charter.net> wrote in message
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>> Take some LSD and view your grandparents' house from a neighbor's roof.
>> Fly around it a couple of times to see all sides and then take a guess.
>> The other option is to go visit the neighborhood and ask some
>> questions. I'd suggest the latter.
>>
>

--
Bill Funk
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In article <Jlg0e.73962$%Y4.2183@bignews6.bellsouth.net>, not@not.not says...
> > Asking neighbors wouldn't work as they are either dead or were not even born
> > when this photo was taken,early 1900's.
> >
>
> In the early 1900s it was probably white.
>
> Bob
>


I remember seeing something on the History Channel last year or the year
before, and they mentioned the range of colors available to paint your home
ro business from colonial times until the 20th century. Amazingly there were
a lot of reds, browns, blues and yellows, but MOST of them were quite dark as
compared to what we see today, and they faded and changed very rapidly.
Whitewash and Calcimine paint (paint made from milk by-products) were the
most popular way to treat a house from the mid 1800s till the mid 20th
century.

If the house appears light in color in the photo it is probably white or
yellow, and yellow is not likely, it wasnt considered proper for a home in
those days.

Grey was popular, but only the Natural grey of weathered cedar shakes.

Look closely at the photo, if there are Cedar Shakes on it it is PROBABLY a
natural grey.

In the early part of the 20th century cedar shakes were made from RED Cedar
and were not painted.

White Cedar shake only became popular much later when paint was available to
cover them up, as they dont weather well like Red Cedar does, and will
deteriorate and fall off without a good coat of high quality paint or stain.

I hope some of this helps, it all comes from an old mans memories, and a
remembered program on the History Channel.




--
Larry Lynch
Mystic, Ct.

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What really annoyed ME was in "Yankee Doodle Dandy" when The 4 Cohans
were doing a minstrel number.The background was colored, but the
performers remained BLACK AND WHITE!