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August 9, 2012 2:34:15 PM

I am looking for a Motherboard to fit this set up in a NZXT Phantom 410:
i5-3570K, CoolerMaster Hyper Evo 212,8G Ram( 2X4), EVGA GTX670 FTW & Samsung 830 256 G SSD

The price range I am looking for is <$160, will only go to <$220 if all the <$160 are unreliable.
Need: fit all components, PCI3/SATA 6G/USB3.0, have SLI and 16G Ram expansion room, reliability

I read through this 7 Mobo review by Tom http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/z77-express-ivy-bri...
which ended in a 3 way tie between Biostar TZ77XE3, ASRock Z77 Extreme4, and Gigabyte Z77X-D3H but it was written before the Asus P8Z77-V LK falls into this price range($119 after rebate on newegg).

Out of these Mobos which one should I chose? I don't need features like Wifi from the +$160 Mobos but might consider them if all these are unreliable.

p.s I read a bit through Asus's newegg reviews, quite a few 1 egg reviews complaining about 2 of the 4 Ram slots not working.
I'll list percentage of 3 egg and below reviews & 1 egg reviews of these Mobo on newegg with total # of reviews next to the name as a reference:

Asus(80): 22%(11%), ASrock(199): 27%(18%), Biostar(62):23%(16%),Gigabyte(13): 16%(0)


Going by the reviews I prefer the Asus, what do you think?

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a c 328 V Motherboard
August 9, 2012 3:02:29 PM

U can definitely use this one -> ASRock Z77 Extreme 4 -> ... Latest Z77...

I just build PC with this mobo and I like the BIOS, its looks like this.

Works as expected @ 4.4GHz



That is a great mobo choice for the CPU. It has good power design for OC.

Read the Toms review Seven Sub-$160 Z77 Express Motherboards, Reviewed
@ http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/z77-express-ivy-bri...

ASRock Z77 Extreme4 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/asrock-z77-extreme-4-int...(x16)-d-sub-dvi-d-hdmi-a
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml...


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a c 328 V Motherboard
August 9, 2012 3:04:19 PM

Newegg reviews are joke!
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a c 328 V Motherboard
August 9, 2012 3:05:30 PM

What do u want your mobo do for u?

How high to OC?

How many GPU's?

.....?
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August 9, 2012 3:12:36 PM

OC to about 4.2-4.4 GHz(I guess that's called moderate OC) and only one GPU right now(GTX670) but I want the option of SLI open even though I am more likely to upgrade to GTX690 than GTX670SLI.
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August 9, 2012 3:39:30 PM

ASRock Z77 Extreme4

I love mine. If you have access to a microcenter they have the best combo prices. I got my 3570k + ASRock z77 extreme 4 for just under $300 post tax.

Good luck !
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a c 87 V Motherboard
August 9, 2012 4:06:29 PM

In the long run you'll be happier and have much more features and upgrade options if you bought a better motherboard it's never wise idea to skimp on your motherboard IMO i recommend any of these


mobo:ASUS P8Z77-V PRO LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


mobo:ASUS P8Z77-V LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

mobo:GIGABYTE GA-Z77X-UD5H LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

mobo:ASRock Z77 Extreme6 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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a c 328 V Motherboard
August 9, 2012 4:20:15 PM

sherlockwing said:
OC to about 4.2-4.4 GHz(I guess that's called moderate OC) and only one GPU right now(GTX670) but I want the option of SLI open even though I am more likely to upgrade to GTX690 than GTX670SLI.

Well, this mobo has it all. U can keep 24/7 4.5GHz without any problem.

It runs GPU @ x16/x0 or x8/x8 , so u are good here too.

Nice easy BIOS.

Great power design with 8+4 power phases.

This mobo will give u what $160 mobo will. Sure, u can but more expensive, but this is decent one.
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August 9, 2012 4:57:05 PM

sherlockwing said:
Thanks for the infor, my build does include a Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo which is about $5 extra compared to the 212 plus, which one is better?

The EVO is the newer version, has some extra things like flatter contact surface or something. Worth the difference from what I've heard. From what I remember I think the surface is completely flat in the EVO, no more spacing between the copper pipes and the metal plate between them so no more adding extra thermal paste to get in between those wholes so air pockets don't create, you'd just put the normal tiny dot in the middle and you push the heatsink on the cpu and put the screws on.



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August 9, 2012 5:01:52 PM

Thanks, yeah looks like something I wouldn't mind paying the extra $5 for.
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August 9, 2012 5:05:28 PM

bigcyco1 said:
In the long run you'll be happier and have much more features and upgrade options if you bought a better motherboard it's never wise idea to skimp on your motherboard IMO i recommend any of these


mobo:ASUS P8Z77-V PRO LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


mobo:ASUS P8Z77-V LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

mobo:GIGABYTE GA-Z77X-UD5H LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

mobo:ASRock Z77 Extreme6 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...



Yeah, those looks good, I will look through them and Tom's 160-220 range review to see how much I like them, I have room in budget to accommodate a better MB, if it has better audio/more PCI3/more space for my Cooler I'd gladly take one of those(if it is just extra Wifi I rather save the money).
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a c 87 V Motherboard
August 9, 2012 5:28:23 PM

sherlockwing said:
Yeah, those looks good, I will look through them and Tom's 160-220 range review to see how much I like them, I have room in budget to accommodate a better MB, if it has better audio/more PCI3/more space for my Cooler I'd gladly take one of those(if it is just extra Wifi I rather save the money).
o.k. :) 
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August 9, 2012 5:43:01 PM

bigcyco1 said:
o.k. :) 


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompare.aspx?Submi...

1 problem, I stared at the comparison chart(above) between Extreme 4 and 6 for 5 min and failed to come up with a single reason justifying why I should pay the extra $45(134 vs 179) for, the best reason I came up with is "Extreme 6 is 1" wider".
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a c 87 V Motherboard
August 9, 2012 5:58:09 PM

sherlockwing said:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompare.aspx?Submi...

1 problem, I stared at the comparison chart(above) between Extreme 4 and 6 for 5 min and failed to come up with a single reason justifying why I should pay the extra $45(134 vs 179) for, the best reason I came up with is "Extreme 6 is 1" wider".
read the last page of review Quote: http://www.vortez.net/articles_pages/asrock_z77_extreme... The only negative I have for this motherboard is that it slips outside of typical ATX specifications. It’s 3cm thinner than a standard ATX motherboard and as a result may lack secure mounting on the far side since this isn’t a common size, which also means you should be very careful when plugging in the 24-pin ATX motherboard power – as the motherboard may flex.P.S.This is my reasoning why i wouldn't buy not saying it's a bad or no good motherboard if you don't care about that flaw then i recommend it and it's a minor flaw anyway i just am picky and wouldn't buy a motherboard that has a flaw like that i also recommend you check the ASUS P8Z77-V PRO and GIGABYTE GA-Z77X-UD5H out those are better imo :) 
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August 9, 2012 6:11:36 PM

bigcyco1 said:
read the last page of review Quote: http://www.vortez.net/articles_pages/asrock_z77_extreme... The only negative I have for this motherboard is that it slips outside of typical ATX specifications. It’s 3cm thinner than a standard ATX motherboard and as a result may lack secure mounting on the far side since this isn’t a common size, which also means you should be very careful when plugging in the 24-pin ATX motherboard power – as the motherboard may flex.P.S.This is my reasoning why i wouldn't buy not saying it's a bad or no good motherboard if you don't care about that flaw then i recommend it and it's a minor flaw anyway i just am picky and wouldn't buy a motherboard that has a flaw like that i also recommend you check the ASUS P8Z77-V PRO and GIGABYTE GA-Z77X-UD5H out those are better imo :) 


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompare.aspx?Submi...

Again I don't see anything that screams "pick me" from the Pro over the $95 cheaper LV-K, sure 4 onboard USB3.0 is better than 2 I don't need that many and the LV-K OCs just fine?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompare.aspx?Submi...

Same goes for UD3H vs UD5H, I don't need the Display ports(1 monitor HDMI), IEEE and eSATA, the only thing signficiant is extra onboard USB but I have no use for them.

Right now imo the debate is between UD3H, LV-K and Extreme4 with the first 2 in the driver seat because with rebate they are 119.99 vs Extrem 4's extra $15.
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a c 87 V Motherboard
August 9, 2012 6:46:45 PM

sherlockwing said:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompare.aspx?Submi...

Again I don't see anything that screams "pick me" from the Pro over the $95 cheaper LV-K, sure 4 onboard USB3.0 is better than 2 I don't need that many and the LV-K OCs just fine?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompare.aspx?Submi...

Same goes for UD3H vs UD5H, I don't need the Display ports(1 monitor HDMI), IEEE and eSATA, the only thing signficiant is extra onboard USB but I have no use for them.

Right now imo the debate is between UD3H, LV-K and Extreme4 with the first 2 in the driver seat because with rebate they are 119.99 vs Extrem 4's extra $15.
o.k. well it sounds to me like your looking for a cheaper less featured motherboard so i would suggest get the extreme 4 Here are the differences between the Asus motherboards: http://www.custompcguide.net/the-differences-between-as... anyway good luck enjoy :) 
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August 9, 2012 7:01:37 PM

bigcyco1 said:
o.k. well it sounds to me like your looking for a cheaper less featured motherboard so i would suggest get the extreme 4 Here are the differences between the Asus motherboards: http://www.custompcguide.net/the-differences-between-as... anyway good luck enjoy :) 



Not really "cheaper less featured", I am looking for "cheap with adequate features", the problem with the Pro and other +160 boards is that I will never need that much peripheral unit(CPU/1 GPU/2-4Ramstick/1SSD/1HDD/1Optical/3 Fans/1Cooler is plenty for me, maybe another HDD but that's extremely optional, not getting a sound card or wifi either).

Also I doubt using a board specific SATA III controller will save me more than 1 sec in boot time, and for me that's not worth $95.

For feature I wanted the three <160 I listed and my future upgrade plan is replacement(GTX690/Larger HDD/BlueRay) centric instead of SLI/CLX/3Monitor centric so extra ports don't really appeal to me.
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a c 328 V Motherboard
August 9, 2012 7:04:20 PM

U wont beat the Extreme4 in that category.
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a b V Motherboard
August 9, 2012 7:24:32 PM

bigcyco1 said:
o.k. well it sounds to me like your looking for a cheaper less featured motherboard so i would suggest get the extreme 4 Here are the differences between the Asus motherboards: http://www.custompcguide.net/the-differences-between-as... anyway good luck enjoy :) 

nice link but where is the WS?

@OP honestly you will not find a better value motherboard than the extreme 4.
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a c 87 V Motherboard
August 9, 2012 7:36:54 PM

Anonymous said:
nice link but where is the WS?

@OP honestly you will not find a better value motherboard than the extreme 4.
I guess they forgot that one :pt1cable:  good catch ;) 
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August 9, 2012 7:51:03 PM

Anonymous said:
nice link but where is the WS?

@OP honestly you will not find a better value motherboard than the extreme 4.


Granted I like the 4 SATA3 slots over the 2 from Asus, both the Extreme4's newegg review scares me, it have a 18% 1 egg rating , so I am taking almost 1 in 5 chance that my board will not work and have to be RMAed.
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August 9, 2012 8:05:37 PM

I throw my opinion in as well i have the extreme 4 as well works like a charm. I live near a micro center so cheap and i could just exchange it if a doa was the case. So the real question is do you live near a micro center or a frys?
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a b V Motherboard
August 9, 2012 8:27:14 PM

sherlockwing said:
Granted I like the 4 SATA3 slots over the 2 from Asus, both the Extreme4's newegg review scares me, it have a 18% 1 egg rating , so I am taking almost 1 in 5 chance that my board will not work and have to be RMAed.

It's not a 1-in-5 chance of your board being defective; like Nikorr said above, Newegg reviews are a joke. The vast majority of low ratings are by people that don't know what they're doing or talking about. ASRock is a highly reputable motherboard manufacturer - they started off as a budget-oriented subsidiary of ASUS (which is a top-tier motherboard manufacturer, often considered the best), and grew enough to spin off into their own little thing. They've since managed to offer the best feature-for-dollars for gamers and enthusiasts since then, and they've come to be well-respected in that regard. There is no guarantee that any component you order from anyone will be fully functioning - and part of the reason brands like ASUS and ASRock are respected the way they are is because of their reliability and service for defunct parts.

I'm sorry if this comes off as hostile (I really don't mean to be at all). I just wrote it to explain that Newegg reviews are a joke - take them with a grain of salt. All-in-all, you can't go wrong choosing between Gigabyte/ASUS/ASRock - they're all great brands that offer great features.
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August 9, 2012 8:46:47 PM

mousseng said:
It's not a 1-in-5 chance of your board being defective; like Nikorr said above, Newegg reviews are a joke. The vast majority of low ratings are by people that don't know what they're doing or talking about. ASRock is a highly reputable motherboard manufacturer - they started off as a budget-oriented subsidiary of ASUS (which is a top-tier motherboard manufacturer, often considered the best), and grew enough to spin off into their own little thing. They've since managed to offer the best feature-for-dollars for gamers and enthusiasts since then, and they've come to be well-respected in that regard. There is no guarantee that any component you order from anyone will be fully functioning - and part of the reason brands like ASUS and ASRock are respected the way they are is because of their reliability and service for defunct parts.

I'm sorry if this comes off as hostile (I really don't mean to be at all). I just wrote it to explain that Newegg reviews are a joke - take them with a grain of salt. All-in-all, you can't go wrong choosing between Gigabyte/ASUS/ASRock - they're all great brands that offer great features.



Thanks, I was getting depressed reading all the 1 egg reviews(my first attempt at building a desktop so wanted to be super careful about choosing parts). I will look over the Tom's review again and try to find some other reviews on Gigabyte/ASUS/ASRock.
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August 10, 2012 6:50:45 PM

When I look at Newegg reviews I immediately discard all 5 star and 1 star reviews. The way I look at it most 5 star reviews are morons that managed to get there system running with no issue and since it's running 5 stars... 1 star reviews are morons who can't get there system running most likely because they are morons... now your 2, 3, 4 star reviews are typically more in depth and they will say something along the lines of it works, BUT it could do 'A' better or it doesn't work and 'B' is why.
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a c 328 V Motherboard
August 10, 2012 6:51:54 PM

Yes ^. Amen!

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a c 328 V Motherboard
August 10, 2012 6:54:24 PM

Also, there is always more people complaining, than saying "Great".

All the mobo makers have around a few % of dead parts.

So, they all have to do decent job.

And ASRock is now 3rd largest mobo maker, so it should have more complains.
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August 16, 2012 11:53:41 PM

Best answer selected by sherlockwing.
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August 16, 2012 11:56:34 PM

Sorry didn't update this but I bought ASRock Extreme 4 when it was on sale with a $15 giftcard attached. Solved.
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a c 328 V Motherboard
August 17, 2012 8:33:39 PM

Good luck!
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a c 328 V Motherboard
August 17, 2012 8:33:48 PM

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