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August 14, 2011 5:03:25 PM

Approximate Purchase Date: 1-2 Months

Budget Range: $1500 - $2000

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Running Mac OSX Lion, Gaming, Watching Movies

Parts Not Required: Keyboard, Mouse, OS

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Newegg, Amazon

Country of Origin: United States

Parts Preferences: Intel CPU, LED LCD Monitor 21" or above

Overclocking: No

SLI or Crossfire: Maybe in the future

Monitor Resolution: 1920x1080

Additional Comments: Needs to be able to run Mac OSX Lion


Here is the build I came up with:

Case:

COOLER MASTER HAF 932 Blue RC-932-KKN3-GP Black Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case with USB 3.0 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811119213


Monitor:

Asus VE228H 21.5" Full HD HDMI LED BackLight LCD Monitor w/Speakers - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16824236100


CPU:

Intel Core i7-2600K Sandy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I72600K - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115070


GPU (I do not know if the 580 is worth the extra $100 or not):

EVGA 012-P3-1570-AR GeForce GTX 570 (Fermi) 1280MB 320-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130593

EVGA 015-P3-1580-AR GeForce GTX 580 (Fermi) 1536MB 384-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130587


PSU:

Sparkle Computer Corp GOLD CLASS SCC-750AF 750W ATX12V / EPS12V 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Modular Active, 0.99PF Typical PFC Power Supply - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817103053


Motherboard:

GIGABYTE GA-Z68MX-UD2H-B3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813128503


RAM:

CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9B - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820145345


HDDs:

Western Digital Caviar Black WD1001FALS 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822136284

Crucial RealSSD C300 CTFDDAC128MAG-1G1 2.5" 128GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


DVD/CD Drive (Not sure if I should get a BlueRay compatible drive or not):

ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS Black SATA 24X DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827135204

ASUS Black Blu-ray Drive SATA Model BC-12B1ST/BLK/B/AS - OEM - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827135247


Card Reader (Not sure which card reader is better quality):

AFT PRO-55U All-in-one USB 2.0 Card Reader - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820176021

HP AR941AA 22-in-1 USB 2.0 Card Reader - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820326037


Wireless Adapter:

ASUS PCE-N10 PCI Express Wireless Adapter - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16833320071


Extras:

Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound - OEM - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835100007

Rosewill RTK-045 45 Piece Premium Computer Tool Kit - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16899261003

CyberPower 850 6 Feet 8 Outlets 2400 Joules Home/Office Surge Protection - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16812120401

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August 14, 2011 5:09:46 PM

Hello darkness357;

All your links are bad. Think you left the link description area blank.
Just paste the link without using the fancy tool.. and they should work.
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August 14, 2011 5:11:53 PM

Did you get your parts choices off of a known good Hackintosh source?
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August 14, 2011 6:15:30 PM

Yes I got ideas for parts from both http://www.kakewalk.se/ and http://www.tonymacx86.com/index.php

Here is the new build and I fixed the links:

Case:

COOLER MASTER HAF 932 Blue RC-932-KKN3-GP Black Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case with USB 3.0 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Monitor:

Asus VE228H 21.5" Full HD HDMI LED BackLight LCD Monitor w/Speakers - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


CPU:

Intel Core i7-2600K Sandy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I72600K - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


GPU (I do not know if the 580 is worth the extra $100 or not):

EVGA 012-P3-1570-AR GeForce GTX 570 (Fermi) 1280MB 320-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

EVGA 015-P3-1580-AR GeForce GTX 580 (Fermi) 1536MB 384-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


PSU:

Sparkle Computer Corp GOLD CLASS SCC-750AF 750W ATX12V / EPS12V 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Modular Active, 0.99PF Typical PFC Power Supply - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Motherboard:

GIGABYTE GA-Z68MX-UD2H-B3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


RAM:

CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9B - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


HDDs:

SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Crucial M4 CT128M4SSD2CCA 2.5" 128GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


DVD/CD Drive (Not sure if I should get a BlueRay compatible drive or not):

ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS Black SATA 24X DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

ASUS Black Blu-ray Drive SATA Model BC-12B1ST/BLK/B/AS - OEM - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Card Reader (Not sure which card reader is better quality):

AFT PRO-55U All-in-one USB 2.0 Card Reader - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

HP AR941AA 22-in-1 USB 2.0 Card Reader - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Wireless Adapter:

ASUS PCE-N10 PCI Express Wireless Adapter - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Extras:

Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound - OEM - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Rosewill RTK-045 45 Piece Premium Computer Tool Kit - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CyberPower 850 6 Feet 8 Outlets 2400 Joules Home/Office Surge Protection - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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August 14, 2011 6:26:15 PM

darkness357 said:
Yes I got ideas for parts from both http://www.kakewalk.se/ and http://www.tonymacx86.com/index.php
That's how you get a smooth ride on a Hackintosh build. Chances are you won't have the driver issues people sometimes run into.
Was the wireless adapter also on the list?
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August 14, 2011 8:32:03 PM

Also, would I be able to put the usb wifi adapter inside of the case or does it have to be plugged into one of the external usb ports?
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August 14, 2011 8:56:34 PM

You don't really need more then a gtx 570. Why would you get all this great stuff and then skimp on the motherboard? You don't do any rendering so drop to an i5-2500k, that is more then enough for gaming and you can overclock if needed. Get this so you can SLI in the future
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Also get a better motherboard for that.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
or
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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August 14, 2011 9:22:18 PM

any GA board should work from what I have read
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August 14, 2011 10:51:47 PM

Okay I made a few changes to the build:

Case:

COOLER MASTER HAF 932 Blue RC-932-KKN3-GP Black Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case with USB 3.0 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Monitor:

Asus VE228H 21.5" Full HD HDMI LED BackLight LCD Monitor w/Speakers - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


CPU:

Intel Core i7-2600K Sandy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I72600K - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


GPU:

EVGA 015-P3-1580-AR GeForce GTX 580 (Fermi) 1536MB 384-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


PSU:

Sparkle Computer Corp GOLD CLASS SCC-850AF 850W ATX12V / EPS12V 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Modular Active, 0.99PF Typical PFC ... - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Motherboard:

GIGABYTE GA-Z68X-UD3H-B3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Or

GIGABYTE GA-Z68XP-UD3P LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...




RAM:

CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9B - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


HDDs:

SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Crucial M4 CT128M4SSD2CCA 2.5" 128GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


DVD/CD Drive:

ASUS Black Blu-ray Drive SATA Model BC-12B1ST/BLK/B/AS - OEM - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Card Reader:

HP AR941AA 22-in-1 USB 2.0 Card Reader - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Wireless Adapter: I am not sure which to get yet.


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August 15, 2011 1:03:09 AM

Which motherboard do you think I should get?:

GIGABYTE GA-Z68X-UD3H-B3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Or

GIGABYTE GA-Z68XP-UD3P LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Both are supposed to work in a Hackintosh build.


Also, has anyone else made a Hackintosh build and used a wifi card either PCI/e or USB, if so what card is it and does it work in both Windows 7 and Mac OSX Lion?
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August 15, 2011 3:02:43 AM

I think the UD3P has more features so I guess go with that. Drop down to an i5-2500k, you don't need an i7. Saves you $100. Also gtx 580 is not worth the price/performance right now. If you want to stick with nVidia, go with a gtx 570 or 2 gtx 560 ti. You can grab another gtx 570 later.
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August 15, 2011 5:21:04 PM

Okay, I made several changes to the build to make the pc more hackintosh compatible and to reduce costs.


CPU:

Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I52500K - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Monitor:

Asus VE228H 21.5" Full HD HDMI LED BackLight LCD Monitor w/Speakers - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Case:

COOLER MASTER HAF 932 Blue RC-932-KKN3-GP Black Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case with USB 3.0 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Motherboard:

GIGABYTE GA-Z68X-UD3H-B3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

OR

GIGABYTE GA-Z68XP-UD3P LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


RAM:

CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9B - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


DVD:
Sony Optiarc CD/DVD Burner Black SATA Model AD-7260S-0B - OEM - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


HDD:

SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Crucial M4 CT128M4SSD2CCA 2.5" 128GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


GPU:

EVGA 012-P3-1570-AR GeForce GTX 570 (Fermi) 1280MB 320-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


PSU:

Sparkle Computer Corp GOLD CLASS SCC-850AF 850W ATX12V / EPS12V 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Modular Active, 0.99PF Typical PFC Power Supply - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Card Reader:

HP AR941AA 22-in-1 USB 2.0 Card Reader - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


WiFi Adapter:

Rosewill RNX-N150UBE USB 2.0 Wireless Adapter - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Extra:

Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound - OEM - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Rosewill RTK-045 45 Piece Premium Computer Tool Kit - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CyberPower 850 6 Feet 8 Outlets 2400 Joules Home/Office Surge Protection - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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August 16, 2011 2:25:24 PM

Okay, after making some decisions I have made a couple more changes to my build, any suggestions or comments on what to add or change?


CPU:

Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I52500K - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Monitor:

Asus VE228H 21.5" Full HD HDMI LED BackLight LCD Monitor w/Speakers - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Case:

COOLER MASTER HAF 932 Blue RC-932-KKN3-GP Black Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case with USB 3.0 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Motherboard:

GIGABYTE GA-Z68XP-UD3P LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


RAM:

CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9B - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


DVD:
Sony Optiarc CD/DVD Burner Black SATA Model AD-7260S-0B - OEM - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


HDD:

SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Crucial M4 CT128M4SSD2CCA 2.5" 128GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


GPU:

EVGA 012-P3-1570-AR GeForce GTX 570 (Fermi) 1280MB 320-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


PSU:

Sparkle Computer Corp GOLD CLASS SCC-850AF 850W ATX12V / EPS12V 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Modular Active, 0.99PF Typical PFC Power Supply - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

OR

CORSAIR Professional Series HX850 (CMPSU-850HX) 850W ATX12V 2.3 / EPS12V 2.91 80 PLUS SILVER Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Card Reader:

HP AR941AA 22-in-1 USB 2.0 Card Reader - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


WiFi Adapter:

Rosewill RNX-N150UBE USB 2.0 Wireless Adapter - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Extra:

Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound - OEM - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Rosewill RTK-045 45 Piece Premium Computer Tool Kit - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CyberPower 850 6 Feet 8 Outlets 2400 Joules Home/Office Surge Protection - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Patriot Xporter XT Boost 8GB Flash Drive (USB 2.0 Portable) Model PEF8GUSB - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


- I am not sure which PSU to buy for the build, both are 850W, but which is more reliable over long term usage?

- Also should I get the 24" Asus monitor http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... over the 21.5" http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... ?
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August 16, 2011 3:18:49 PM

I think Core i5-2500K and GTX 570 are a great match for a 1920x1080 resolution screen.
With a CPU/GPU change I think you can also do a PSU change to a 750W model and still have plenty of power in reserve for a 2x GTX 570 future upgrade.

I see AS5 thermal compound in your parts list but not CPU cooler. What was your thinking here?

The Premium Computer Tool Kit is a luxury you won't need. The only tool in that kit I regularly use is the dual head barrel screwdriver (and rarely the claw grabber).
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August 16, 2011 3:53:40 PM

The extra tall RAM heat sinks on the Vengeance RAM (mostly decorative) could interfere with some CPU cooler. Choosing a CPU cooler where you can change the fan from Push to Pull (installed on back side) is probably a good idea. CM Hyper 212+ or CORSAIR CAFA50 CPU Cooler
Both heatsinks come with very good thermal compound so the AS5 isn't required.

CORSAIR HX750 750W PSU $140 a/r
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August 16, 2011 4:43:57 PM

I have a few more questions

- If I have the money to spare would the upgrade to an i7 and GTX 580 be worth it as far as future proofing with newer games?

- Sparkle also makes a 750W PSU, which one do you think is higher quality and will last longer? Also, the 850W is not much more money, wouldn't that be better if I decide to upgrade components in the future?

- Is the cpu cooler that comes with the i5/i7 enough if I do not plan on overclocking any of the components?

Also, I do not think the Hyper 212+ will work with how tall the RAM is. Would a CPU water cooler be better like the CORSAIR CWCH50-1 High Performance CPU Cooler
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August 16, 2011 5:13:37 PM

Do you plan on going to any higher resolution screen? Like a double wide 3840x1080 or triple wide 5760x1080 setup? This is the area where SLI 570/580 start to make sense to me.

Future proofing to me (assuming you're using a single screen) is replacing the GTX 570 with a GTX 7xx in about 18 months to 2 years. That strategy would let you go with a 650W, a single GTX 570, a single LCD screen and still have outstanding gaming.
And when you upgrade the GPU you can also boost the CPU (same 18 month to 2 years time frame) and get a nice bump up in CPU power to support the more powerful future GPU. Which is kinda why adding an aftermarket CPU cooler earns it keep.
Even without overclocking the aftermarket CPU does a better job at cooling. AS5 with the stock CPU cooler is the wrong way of improving cooling, IMO.

Have you found any good independent reviews on that Sparkle 750W PSU? I like JonnyGuru, HardOCP and HardwareSecrets for their knowledge, experience and thorough reviews.
I know that a highly qualified independent reviewer has tested the HX750 and given their opinions. If you can find a Sparkle GOLD SCC-750AF review from a source you trust and it meets or exceeds the quality of the HX750 there is no reason you can't pay a bit more if you like it better.

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August 16, 2011 5:22:18 PM

So I should get the GTX 570 now, but why would I not get the corsair 850W to avoid having to purchase another PSU when I upgrade the GPU? Is there a large difference between a Gold and a Silver class PSU? Also, will the GTX570 be able to handle games that come out 6 moths to 1 year from now at max settings? Also, which cpu coolers would be able to easily fit the Corsair RAM with the taller heatsinks? The coolers you listed would not be able to easily fit with the RAM. So, should I get the i5 CPU now and then upgrade to a newer CPU at a later date?
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August 16, 2011 5:36:35 PM

750W PSU is fine with dual GTX 570s. And any single future or dual GTX 570 class GPUs will be fine as well.

New games + GTX 570 + single 1920x1080 monitor = max settings.

CPU coolers I listed are fine. Mount the fan on the backside (pull mode) away from the RAM slots.

Your i5-2500K should last you the whole life span of your computer. You'd probably need a motherboard/CPU change by the time any type of CPU upgrade would make sense.
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August 16, 2011 5:39:20 PM

darkness357 said:
Is there a large difference between a Gold and a Silver class PSU?
There is not a large difference between any Bronze, Silver or Gold 80+ PSU. In many cases a Gold rated PSU will not save enough money over it's lifespan to pay for the difference in price.
And the energy efficiency rating in no way is an indication of overall quality or reliability.
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August 16, 2011 5:44:31 PM

So there is no need to buy a GTX 580? Also what do you think would be the lifespan of this computer build? Out of the two cpu coolers you listed I would get the Hyper 212+ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... , but would a cpu water cooler be better like the CORSAIR CWCH50-1 High Performance CPU Cooler - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... , are there any benefits to getting the i7 besides HT? Also, should I get the 21.5" LCD or the 24"? Sorry for all of the questions, but I want to make sure I have a quality build that is not too overpriced but will still last a while.
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August 16, 2011 5:52:18 PM

darkness357 said:
not too overpriced
That's the $1000 question.
It's your money, spend it how you want.
i7 is better, CWCH50 is better than Hyper 212+ (by a small amount) but the CWCH70 is even better (by another small amount).

The 'real life span' of that computer could be 8-10yrs, easy.
The 'gaming life span' is usually shorter since it's your gaming satisfaction that says when you feel the need to upgrade.
If you'd stick with 2011/2012 games you'd never need to upgrade.

Where are you at on your budget and how much more do you want to spend?
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August 16, 2011 5:55:24 PM

darkness357 said:
Also, should I get the 21.5" LCD or the 24"?
This is purely a personal preference based on how much 'desktop real estate' you have to spare for the monitor. If you have a few extra bucks you'd probably enjoy a 23" or 24" monitor a bit more - but it might be a smart move to get a decent set of gaming speakers (or headphones) instead.
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August 16, 2011 6:02:14 PM

This build is $1700 before rebates:

CPU:

Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I52500K - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


CPU Cooler:

COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus RR-B10-212P-G1 "Heatpipe Direct Contact" Long Life Sleeve 120mm CPU Cooler Compatible Intel Core i5 & Intel Core i7 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Monitor:

Asus VE228H 21.5" Full HD HDMI LED BackLight LCD Monitor w/Speakers - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Case:

COOLER MASTER HAF 932 Blue RC-932-KKN3-GP Black Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case with USB 3.0 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Motherboard:

GIGABYTE GA-Z68XP-UD3P LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


RAM:

CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9B - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


DVD:
Sony Optiarc CD/DVD Burner Black SATA Model AD-7260S-0B - OEM - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


HDD:

SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Crucial M4 CT128M4SSD2CCA 2.5" 128GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


GPU:

EVGA 012-P3-1570-AR GeForce GTX 570 (Fermi) 1280MB 320-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


PSU:

CORSAIR Professional Series HX850 (CMPSU-850HX) 850W ATX12V 2.3 / EPS12V 2.91 80 PLUS SILVER Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Card Reader:

HP AR941AA 22-in-1 USB 2.0 Card Reader - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


WiFi Adapter:

Rosewill RNX-N150UBE USB 2.0 Wireless Adapter - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Extra:

CyberPower 850 6 Feet 8 Outlets 2400 Joules Home/Office Surge Protection - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Patriot Xporter XT Boost 8GB Flash Drive (USB 2.0 Portable) Model PEF8GUSB - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...






My budget is at the most $2000

- I already have a pair of headphones and I do not need speakers.
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August 16, 2011 6:20:10 PM

Would I benefit from buying the i7 and the 580 or is the i5 and 570 just as good? If possible I would rather save money then purchase a higher cost gpu and cpu that only deliver a marginal amount of extra performance.
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August 18, 2011 5:16:55 PM

Okay, after more thinking I think I have come up with a good build, but I need some more comments/suggestions on the parts before I make a decision. Here is the build that I came up with:


Total = $1700

CPU:

Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I52500K - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


CPU Cooler:
 
COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus RR-B10-212P-G1 "Heatpipe Direct Contact" Long Life Sleeve 120mm CPU Cooler Compatible Intel Core i5 & Intel Core i7 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Monitor:

Asus VE228H 21.5" Full HD HDMI LED BackLight LCD Monitor w/Speakers - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Case:

COOLER MASTER HAF 932 Blue RC-932-KKN3-GP Black Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case with USB 3.0 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Motherboard:

GIGABYTE GA-Z68XP-UD3P LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


RAM:

CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9B - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


DVD:
Sony Optiarc CD/DVD Burner Black SATA Model AD-7260S-0B - OEM - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


HDD:

SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Crucial M4 CT128M4SSD2CCA 2.5" 128GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


GPU:

EVGA 012-P3-1570-AR GeForce GTX 570 (Fermi) 1280MB 320-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


PSU:

CORSAIR Professional Series HX850 (CMPSU-850HX) 850W ATX12V 2.3 / EPS12V 2.91 80 PLUS SILVER Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Card Reader:

HP AR941AA 22-in-1 USB 2.0 Card Reader - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


WiFi Adapter:

Rosewill RNX-N150UBE USB 2.0 Wireless Adapter - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Extra:

CyberPower 850 6 Feet 8 Outlets 2400 Joules Home/Office Surge Protection - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Patriot Xporter XT Boost 8GB Flash Drive (USB 2.0 Portable) Model PEF8GUSB - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N




The specific questions I have are:

- Should I get this ram instead - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... , I was considering them because they have a lower heatsink, but I do not know if they are the same as the regular corsair vengeance besides the shorter heatsinks?

- Are there any benefits to the 580 over the 570, from what I have seen the 580 only gives an average of 5-8 frames more than the 570?

- Does the i7 offer any other benefits besides hyper threading, and .1 GHz more?
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August 18, 2011 6:27:15 PM

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Its unsure wether or not HT will even be incorperated into the large mass population of games, but I guess if you feel like paying a $100 premium for something that MAY be useful later on in the future lol then do it.... I would instead get the i5 2500k, oc it to a nice 4ghz with a good hsf (scythe or hyper) and spend that $100 on a better gpu or some new games to test out.


Okay, I think I will still get the i5 then and I will probably overclock it in the future since I am getting the hyper 212 plus. Are there any significant increases of performance with the 580 over the 570 for the extra $130 that it costs? Also, which RAM do you think I should get, the taller heatsink corsair or the shorter heatsink corsair? Will the hyper 212 plus fit in the Haf 932?
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August 19, 2011 3:53:57 AM

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Depends on what resolution you will be playing at, for 1920x1080 single monitor resolution you don't wanna burn $500 on a single video card if you don't game at huge resolutions when you can buy something like 2x 560ti (then safetly overclock them on Afterburner) and you will have godly fast 560's. Or If you wan't to skip ocing a 560ti just buy a 570 and add a 2nd later. I would only suggest buying a 580 if one of these is true -

You are basing your build off a 580,
You are gaming at higher than 1920x1080 resolution,
You feel like burning $500 before the prices drop on it when the new 600 series releases,
You aren't getting the FPS you expected in games with 560/570,

As for the ram, G.Skill Ripjaw series has better heatsinks that don't stick up too high.

If you really want like Corsair Vengence 1600mhz 8cas 2x4gb, then you will need to move the two sticks to the 3rd/4th ram slots.


Okay, thank you for your help. I will get the GTX 570 now and wait until the 600 series comes out. I will probably get the ripjaws, but what do you think of this memory set http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... ?
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August 19, 2011 1:32:50 PM

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good cheap choice with same specs as the ripjaw series.

Really it depends on the size of the heatsinks on the ram and then color imo lol.

So many nice looking ram sticks nowadays, plenty of choices to make. I mainly stick with Corsair/Gskill but that munskin also looks pretty sick. I never even knew they had blue vengence sticks lol I would get the ones you picked to go with my blue mobo any day lol.

These memory sticks http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... are made by Corsair not munskin.
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August 19, 2011 8:44:11 PM

Okay, I was actually looking at the mushkin RAM as well, they are all around the same price point, but I think I will get the short heatsink corsair vengeance memory. Because, they should fit under the CPU cooler I am getting and they match my color scheme.
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August 27, 2011 8:42:12 PM

Okay, after more thinking and research I believe I have completed my build that I am going to get in around 1 month unless newer parts or upgrades are released in the next month.


CPU:

Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I52500K


CPU Cooler:
 
COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus RR-B10-212P-G1 "Heatpipe Direct Contact" Long Life Sleeve 120mm CPU Cooler Compatible Intel Core i5 & Intel Core i7


Monitor:

Asus VE238H 23" Full HD HDMI LED BackLight LCD Monitor w/Speakers


Case:

COOLER MASTER HAF 932 Blue RC-932-KKN3-GP Black Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case with USB 3.0


Motherboard:

GIGABYTE GA-Z68XP-UD3P LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard


RAM:

CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CML8GX3M2A1600C9B

DVD:
Sony Optiarc CD/DVD Burner Black SATA Model AD-7260S-0B - OEM

HDD:

SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive

Crucial M4 CT128M4SSD2CCA 2.5" 128GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)


GPU:

EVGA 012-P3-1570-AR GeForce GTX 570 (Fermi) 1280MB 320-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card


PSU:

CORSAIR Professional Series HX850 (CMPSU-850HX) 850W ATX12V 2.3 / EPS12V 2.91 80 PLUS SILVER Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply


Card Reader:

HP AR941AA 22-in-1 USB 2.0 Card Reader


WiFi Adapter:

Rosewill RNX-N150UBE USB 2.0 Wireless Adapter




A few questions I had were:

- Will I need any extra SATA cables? Does the SSD come with one or not? It does not say on Newegg.

- Will the 128GB SSD be enough to dual boot Windows 7 and OSX Lion?
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August 28, 2011 11:59:36 AM

Also,

- Should I be looking at getting a motherboard that has PCIe 3.0 or not?

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August 28, 2011 3:28:30 PM

you can always flash the bios on your motherboard when ivy bridge comes out
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September 14, 2011 6:36:28 PM

CPU:

Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I52500K - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


CPU Cooler:
 
COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus RR-B10-212P-G1 "Heatpipe Direct Contact" Long Life Sleeve 120mm CPU Cooler Compatible Intel Core i5 & Intel Core i7 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

OR

COOLER MASTER V6 GT RR-V6GT-22PK-R1 120mm DynaLoop CPU Cooler w/ Universal bracket & Dual Fan - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Monitor:

Asus VH238H 23" LED Monitor HDMI 2ms Black Full HD w/Speakers 250 cd/m2 ASCR 50,000,000:1 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...



Case:

COOLER MASTER HAF 932 Advanced Blue Edition RC-932-KKN3-GP Black Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case with USB 3.0, Black Interior and Four Blue LED Fans-1x 230mm front fan, 1x 230mm top fan, 1x 230mm side fan, and 1x 140mm rear fan
- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

OR

COOLER MASTER HAF X Blue Edition RC-942-KKN3 Black Steel / Plastic ATX Full Tower Computer Case with Black Interior and Four Blue LED Fans-1x 140mm rear fan, 1x 200mm top fan, 1x 200mm side fan, and 1x 230mm front fan - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Motherboard:

GIGABYTE GA-Z68XP-UD3P LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


RAM:

CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CML8GX3M2A1600C9B - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


DVD:
Sony Optiarc CD/DVD Burner Black SATA Model AD-7260S-0B - OEM - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


HDD:

SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Crucial M4 CT128M4SSD2CCA 2.5" 128GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...



GPU:

EVGA 015-P3-1580-AR GeForce GTX 580 (Fermi) 1536MB 384-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...



PSU:

CORSAIR Professional Series HX850 (CMPSU-850HX) 850W ATX12V 2.3 / EPS12V 2.91 80 PLUS SILVER Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Card Reader:

HP AR941AA 22-in-1 USB 2.0 Card Reader - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...



WiFi Adapter:

Rosewill RNX-N150UBE USB 2.0 Wireless Adapter - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...





I will be buying this build next week, the last few questions I had were:

- Which case is better HAF X or HAF 932 Advanced, both seem similar but the HAF X has dust filters, does the 932 have anything that the HAF X doesn't? I will be buying the blue edition from Newegg if that matters

- Which is a better cpu cooler the cm 212 Hyper Plus or cm V6, from what I have researched the V6 costs more but it comes with two high quality fans, so the prices are almost the same. Are there any other coolers I should look at within the $0-80 range? Does anyone have the V6 and can recommend it over the 212? Also, I have been looking at the Zalman coolers, how do they compare to Cooler MAster?

- What are the steps to take to dual boot Lion and Windows 7? I plan on splitting the 128GB SSD between the two Operating Systems. I have tried looking on Hackintosh sites, but the guides are either for dual booting Snow Leopard and Windows 7 or deal with installing the operating systems on separate HDDs.


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September 16, 2011 4:17:40 PM

Also, is there a major difference between a 23" and a 25" lcd screen? Asus makes both sizes in LED, but I am not sure if it is worth it to spend the extra $100 on the larger screen.
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