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August 14, 2011 10:10:43 PM

Approximate Purchase Date: this week

Budget Range: $700-$800 Before or after Rebates doesn't matter.

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming mostly. SC2, LoL, HoN, Skyrim when it releases. SC2 and Skyrim are the most important. Oh, and DotA 2, whenever that happens.

Parts Not Required: Monitor, keyboard, mouse, OS, HD (see below)

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: newegg preferred, but flexible.

Country of Origin: United States

Parts Preferences: AMD. Nvidia.

Overclocking: Maybe - Never done it before, but am interested if the performance boost is worth it.

SLI or Crossfire: Yes - eventually. Not something I want to do now, due to budget constraints. However, I would like to double up down the road.

Monitor Resolution: 1600x1200 or 1920x1200)

Additional Comments: Quiet is good. This rig will be in our office where my wife works all day and doesn't want to "hear all that noise!"

I have already purchased:
Kingston SSDNow V+100 KR-S1296-3H 2.5" 96GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) for the main HD. I saw it on sale a couple days ago for $90 after MIR, and I had to pull the trigger. I have another 500gb HD that I will harvest from my old box. That will be used just for storage.

So basically, I'm looking for Mobo, CPU, Memory, PSU, and GPU. If I can overclock easily on the mobo, then I'd need an aftermarket heatsink & fan for my CPU, I think.

Here's the basics that I've been looking at so far:

AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Deneb 3.4GHz $129.99

GIGABYTE GA-990XA-UD3 $139.99 (When I SLI, this thing with x8/x8 channel, right? - Also, I've read in the comments that people have been having problems fitting in aftermarket CPU fans due to the memory crowding. Not too excited about that.

Really open on the video cards. I've read a few of the toms articles, but I don't really understand it all. The last time I researched and bought a GPU, memory size was all the rage. Help me out, here! Maybe this card?
MSI N550GTX-Ti Cyclone OC GeForce GTX 550 Ti (Fermi) $144.99 and $129.99 after MIR.

Really open on cases too. Obviously, I'm looking for something that will keep things quiet. I'm not into the LEDs, and would probably try to turn them off. Airflow + quiet. Also, I really like the bottom mounted PSUs, but that's not really a dealbreaker. I know the Rosewill CHALLENGER case for $49.99 won the toms choice award in 2010, but is there something better out there for me? I like the size of the Full Tower cases, but some Mid-Towers are pretty big as well. I don't know.

As far as PSUs go. I was looking at this Antec High Current Gamer Series HCG-750 750W because that seems like enough power and after the MIR it's only $69.99. Of course, that's until the end of today (sunday). So, other options seem like a better way to go. I'm not sure about the rails and such on PSUs. And if/when I SLI down the road it would be good to not have to get a new PSU.
$69.99 after MIR.

For Memory, I don't know what the hell is going on with all the channels and whatever the timing 9-9-9-24 latency means. I'm at a loss. But I was looking at CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 ($60.99) to start off with. 8GB seems like a solid start and I could always double up later depending on the mobo.

So, that brings me to $580.94 before shipping. Couple that with the SSD I purchased and I'm in the sweet spot as far as my budget goes. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Hopefully, I listed all the info you need in a way that's not annoying. Thanks in advance.

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August 15, 2011 2:29:40 AM

CPU: AMD Phenom II x4 955 $120 [$10 promo ends 8/16]
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

MOBO:GIGABYTE AMD 990FX AM3+ $150
http://www.amazon.com/GIGABYTE-990FX-SB950-Motherboard-...

RAM: Kingston HyperX 8gb DDR3 1600MHz $49 [free World of Tanks CD]
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GPU: EVGA SuperClocked 560 TI $250 [$35 MIR avilable]
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

HDD: Samsung Spinpoint F3 $60
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CASE: NZXT Phantom Black $125 [15% promo ends 8/14]
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU: Antec High Current Gamer Series 750W $95 [$25 MIR available'
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

OPTICAL: Some $20 one

$869 before promo and rebate. I don't know if you're able to catch the NZXT case rebate so I will look for some alternative cases.

You don't need to go with a AMD Phenom II x4 965 since both 955 and 965 are black edition processors. You'll save quite a bit if you just bump up the multiplier a little bit yourself. Gigabyte doesn't have the best bios.. they're outdated and can be confusing. The case is pretty much open for changes, I don't know what'll fit your taste..

Some other cases I found:
LIAN LI Lancool First Knight Series PC-K59W $70
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Antec 300 $60 [$15 MIR available]
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

LIAN LI Lancool PC-K7B $90
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

You should also look at Cooler Master Elite series. :p 
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August 15, 2011 2:32:33 AM

Well, for midrange gaming without knowing your resolution I would choose either the HD 6850 or GTX 460. Their both around $150 and better than the 550Ti.
For a couple of bucks more you could get the 990FX ud3 mobo and have 16X/16X for crossfire/SLI.

I wouldn't recommend a full tower unless you really need the space, and it doesn't sound like you will. There are a lot of great cases in the $80-$100 range that I could easily recommend. At $50 it gets a lot harder. So what's really important to you? Keep in mind that alot of this will come down to aesthetics and personal taste. Are you interested in a window? Its a gaming machine so adequate cooling is important.
Go ahead with the HCG from Antec. Its a great deal. Likewise tyhe corsair vengeance but keep in mind the very high heatsinks on those. with 8 gigs you won't have a problem with most big tower coolers, but if you want to populate those two inner channels thats a different story-with just about any motherboard.
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August 15, 2011 4:05:27 AM

i5 2500K + Scythe Mugen $242 (i5 2500K is discounted $15 w/ promo)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
Gigabyte Z68A-D3H-B3 $119
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Kingston HyperX 8GB DDR3 1600 $49
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Antec HCG 750w 80+ Brnze $85 (W/ Promo) not including MIR
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
HAF 912 $60
http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Tower-Case-RC-912-K...
MSI Twin Frozr II 560 Ti $245 OC (Not including MIR)
http://www.amazon.com/MSI-PCI-Express-N560GTX-TWIN-FROZ...
Total: $800 flat.

560 Ti Twin Frozr II OC review:
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2011/01/27/ms...
(Reaches 570)
2500K vs 980
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/288?vs=362
Overclock review of 2500K
http://www.guru3d.com/article/core-i5-2500k-and-core-i7...
"So what you need to remember here is that everything used was reference, the motherboard, the cooler, the processor. What you are looking at here is easy to do. We guarantee you, you can take it further as well, a small MP increase based on this cooling was doable and sure... that baseclock frequency would work at 110 MHz very likely as well. I would not be surprised to see 4500~5000 MHz with proper cooling applied and more advanced motherboards."
Now to say to that, don't expect 4.5ghz, it all depends on the grade of the chip. Most can reach 4ghz but some can't go past that.
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August 15, 2011 6:18:08 AM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $94.99 - $69.99 after mail-in rebate FREE SHIPPING $10 off w/ promo code EMCKBJH49, ends 8/14
Antec High Current Gamer Series HCG-750 750W ATX12V v2.3 / EPS12V v2.91 SLI Certified CrossFire Certified 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $118.99 FREE SHIPPING
GIGABYTE GA-Z68A-D3H-B3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard - Virtu, Touch BIOS, Smart Response SSD, 2-Way SLI, HDMI

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite... $266.98 save: $13.00 - $20.00 Mail In Rebates FREE SHIPPING
Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I52500K
Patriot Signature 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory with heatshield Model PSD38G1600KH

http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-Sleeve-RR-B10... $28.57 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 120mm Sleeve CPU Cooler, RR-B10-212P-G1

http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Spinpoint-Cache-Desktop-H... $59.79 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Samsung 1 TB Spinpoint 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.5 inch Bulk/OEM Desktop Hard Drive HD103SJ

http://www.amazon.com/Sony-SATA-Internal-Drive-AD-7260S... $19.99 Free Standard Shipping (3-5 days)
Sony 24X SATA Internal DVD+/-RW Drive AD-7260S-0B - Bulk (Black)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $239.99 - $219.99 after mail-in rebate card FREE SHIPPING
MSI N560GTX-Ti Twin Frozr II GeForce GTX 560 Ti (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card3

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August 15, 2011 6:28:04 AM

DONT TEST ME WHY_ME! Don't CHALLENGE ME! Those parts are almost the same as mine! BRING IT!
Haha TEEHEE
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August 15, 2011 3:40:33 PM

aznshinobi said:
i5 2500K + Scythe Mugen $242 (i5 2500K is discounted $15 w/ promo)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
Gigabyte Z68A-D3H-B3 $119
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Kingston HyperX 8GB DDR3 1600 $49
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Antec HCG 750w 80+ Brnze $85 (W/ Promo) not including MIR
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
HAF 912 $60
http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Tower-Case-RC-912-K...
MSI Twin Frozr II 560 Ti $245 OC (Not including MIR)
http://www.amazon.com/MSI-PCI-Express-N560GTX-TWIN-FROZ...
Total: $800 flat.

560 Ti Twin Frozr II OC review:
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2011/01/27/ms...
(Reaches 570)
2500K vs 980
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/288?vs=362
Overclock review of 2500K
http://www.guru3d.com/article/core-i5-2500k-and-core-i7...
"So what you need to remember here is that everything used was reference, the motherboard, the cooler, the processor. What you are looking at here is easy to do. We guarantee you, you can take it further as well, a small MP increase based on this cooling was doable and sure... that baseclock frequency would work at 110 MHz very likely as well. I would not be surprised to see 4500~5000 MHz with proper cooling applied and more advanced motherboards."
Now to say to that, don't expect 4.5ghz, it all depends on the grade of the chip. Most can reach 4ghz but some can't go past that.



Would it be better to SLI with two lesser cards than to get the 560 ti you listed? Reading the toms articles about SLI made me think that might be the case.

I was thinking of sticking with AMD instead of going to the i5. Why? Not really sure. Budget and some sort of desire to not do what everyone else is doing (ie i5 2500k). Also, because I was a busy bee yesterday I missed the Antec 750w power supply. Any other recommendations? How powerful of a supply should I be looking at as a baseline?




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August 15, 2011 3:43:29 PM

buzznut said:
Well, for midrange gaming without knowing your resolution I would choose either the HD 6850 or GTX 460. Their both around $150 and better than the 550Ti.
For a couple of bucks more you could get the 990FX ud3 mobo and have 16X/16X for crossfire/SLI.

I wouldn't recommend a full tower unless you really need the space, and it doesn't sound like you will. There are a lot of great cases in the $80-$100 range that I could easily recommend. At $50 it gets a lot harder. So what's really important to you? Keep in mind that alot of this will come down to aesthetics and personal taste. Are you interested in a window? Its a gaming machine so adequate cooling is important.
Go ahead with the HCG from Antec. Its a great deal. Likewise tyhe corsair vengeance but keep in mind the very high heatsinks on those. with 8 gigs you won't have a problem with most big tower coolers, but if you want to populate those two inner channels thats a different story-with just about any motherboard.


Thanks for the reply. What cases would you recommend in the $80 - $100 range? I don't really care about a side window or anything. The priorities with the case are #1 keeping things cool and #2 keeping things quiet.

The 990FX ud3 mobo looks awesome, but difficult to overclock. I wasn't planning to overclock right out of the gate mainly because I've never done it before. Is that something I should consider down the road? Some of the reviews mention that the BIOS is icky.

Oh, and I was away from my computer yesterday and unable to order the Antec PSU. Any other recommendations on PSUs?

Thanks again.
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August 15, 2011 3:59:20 PM

TheVolcanoKid said:
Would it be better to SLI with two lesser cards than to get the 560 ti you listed? Reading the toms articles about SLI made me think that might be the case.

I was thinking of sticking with AMD instead of going to the i5. Why? Not really sure. Budget and some sort of desire to not do what everyone else is doing (ie i5 2500k). Also, because I was a busy bee yesterday I missed the Antec 750w power supply. Any other recommendations? How powerful of a supply should I be looking at as a baseline?

If everyone's doing it, then there's usually a good reason why.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/102?vs=288 <------ AMD Phenom II X4 965 BE vs Intel Core i5 2500K (it gets even worse for the AMD cpu's when it comes to o/c

The gtx 550 is a horrible card if you plan on gaming with it.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-550-ti-... <------ Review / benchmarks for gtx 550ti

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-560-amp... <----- review / benchmarks for the gtx 560

http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-GeForce-PCI-Express-Graphics... $184.88 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
EVGA GeForce GTX 560 1024 MB GDDR5 PCI-Express 2.0 Graphics Card 01G-P3-1460-KR

or...

http://www.amazon.com/MSI-N560GTX-M2D1GD5-Video-Card/dp... $189.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
MSI N560GTX-M2D1GD5 Video Card

or...

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004E0KV3I/ref=ox_sc_a... $179.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Sapphire Radeon HD 6870 1 GB DDR5 DL-DVI-I/SL-DVI-D/HDMI/Dual Mini DP PCI-Express Graphics Card 100314-2SR

The Antec 620w High Gamer psu will run dual 6870's with ease. For dual 560's you want a 750w psu.
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August 15, 2011 4:24:56 PM

Why_Me said:
If everyone's doing it, then there's usually a good reason why.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/102?vs=288 <------ AMD Phenom II X4 965 BE vs Intel Core i5 2500K (it gets even worse for the AMD cpu's when it comes to o/c

The gtx 550 is a horrible card if you plan on gaming with it.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-550-ti-... <------ Review / benchmarks for gtx 550ti

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-560-amp... <----- review / benchmarks for the gtx 560

http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-GeForce-PCI-Express-Graphics... $184.88 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
EVGA GeForce GTX 560 1024 MB GDDR5 PCI-Express 2.0 Graphics Card 01G-P3-1460-KR

or...

http://www.amazon.com/MSI-N560GTX-M2D1GD5-Video-Card/dp... $189.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
MSI N560GTX-M2D1GD5 Video Card

or...

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004E0KV3I/ref=ox_sc_a... $179.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Sapphire Radeon HD 6870 1 GB DDR5 DL-DVI-I/SL-DVI-D/HDMI/Dual Mini DP PCI-Express Graphics Card 100314-2SR

The Antec 620w High Gamer psu will run dual 6870's with ease. For dual 560's you want a 750w psu.



Yea. Eep eep - the benchmarks on the i5 2500k (especially when gaming) is ridiculous compared the the AMD situation. Arg.

Thanks for the tips on the GPUs. Would you recommend the gtx 560 instead of something like 2 SLI 450s (or some other SLI combo)?


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August 15, 2011 6:45:35 PM

SLI 560 Ti, get 1 now and SLI them later. My recommendation would be fine.
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August 15, 2011 7:37:30 PM

aznshinobi said:
SLI 560 Ti, get 1 now and SLI them later. My recommendation would be fine.



Thanks! Really appreciate all of your help.

So, I'm looking at:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

As some options. What should I be looking at. Core clock speed? the PNY looks pretty strong, but the last GPU I purchased was a 9800, so I'm way behind.

You've won me over on the i5, and getting a strong card now and then SLIing later seems smart. This will still all be good to go with the Antec 750 PSU or would Rosewill Xtreme Series RX750-S-B 750W Continuous @40°C be better.

Also, looking at this CoolerMaster Case. Seems like it would suit my needs and leave me some room budget-wise. (I just went back and read your original after adding this case section. I apologize. You win.... This is the case you recommended originally. Thanks! I think I'm golden!)
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August 15, 2011 9:40:01 PM

Best answer selected by TheVolcanoKid.
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August 16, 2011 4:04:22 AM

Do not go with that Rosewill. Go with the Antec HCG750 I have in my recommendation up top. It's a solid power supply. I wouldn't trust that RW, I've heard many people having there PSU's blow up.
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August 16, 2011 4:15:57 AM

aznshinobi said:
Do not go with that Rosewill. Go with the Antec HCG750 I have in my recommendation up top. It's a solid power supply. I wouldn't trust that RW, I've heard many people having there PSU's blow up.



Booya. Thanks so much, aznshinobi. Ordering tomorrow! Rawr!
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