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I'm guessing the Bulldozer sucks for MMO's?

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November 13, 2011 9:30:22 PM

i dont play these games anymore really, dont have time. i might check out old republic just to see how good/bad it is. considering the reviews on bulldozer's core by core performance, i'm guessing the higher end phenom 2's are better for mmo's than the bd's? ironic because about a month before bd came out, i saw a commercial for bd promoting their performance in mmo style games....not sure if anyone else caught that. not sure what the game was on the screen, had dozens of samurai esque warriors on the screen at once.
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November 13, 2011 10:14:03 PM

Well, the MMO games are probably going to be the worst on BD, I think. That CPU only shines when under very heavy multithreading, which an MMO game won't take advantage of. Most of the heavy stuff like AI and power effect calculations are handled on a server somewhere else.

Maybe if the Game used BD in their servers, lol.
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November 13, 2011 10:15:33 PM

Though CPUs have a role when it comes to games, most games tend to be GPU reliant. I'm sure people can play MMOs on a decent dual core, as long as your GPU can handle the game. Still, the Phenom IIs and Sandy Bridge CPUs are better options than Bulldozer (or at least in terms of gaming).
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November 13, 2011 10:16:37 PM

Well the bulldozer chips aren't useless, they're just not as good as other chips in the price range. But BD on MMO servers would be much better than on a client though that's for sure lol.
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November 13, 2011 10:37:15 PM

Do you guys know ANYTHING about MMO's? MMO's are EASY to play on almost any PC w/discrete graphics and a lot of them can even play on integrated graphics. The CPU has very little to do with MMO performance. Gpu is what matters. Any BD CPU is going to work just fine on any MMO out there, now and in the future.
This thread is really just a morbidly thin veil for Intel fans to bash on AMD's new BD. Childlike is a good description. If you like Intel, why cant you just be happy? You lead the pack, right now. I think that after awhile the BD may shake out just fine and if not, then progress, will move on and everyone will be just fine.
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November 13, 2011 10:41:41 PM

cobra5000 said:
Do you guys know ANYTHING about MMO's? MMO's are EASY to play on almost any PC w/discrete graphics and a lot of them can even play on integrated graphics. The CPU has very little to do with MMO performance. Gpu is what matters. Any BD CPU is going to work just fine on any MMO out there, now and in the future.
This thread is really just a morbidly thin veil for Intel fans to bash on AMD's new BD. Childlike is a good description. If you like Intel, why cant you just be happy? You lead the pack, right now. I think that after awhile the BD may shake out just fine and if not, then progress, will move on and everyone will be just fine.

Did you READ any of the posts here? Where do you see bashing on BD? You sound worse than the Intel fanboys defending Netburst. Calm your nips bro.
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November 13, 2011 11:48:25 PM

How did this thread about MMOs end up mentioning Netburst (something I still lol at when I see in print)? Anyway, the game won't be CPU intensive is my guess...I have played the beta and can tell you (I think?) that my 955 BE + GTX 275 handles it extremely well, like 60 FPS constant with v-sync on, and without it I bump up to 70-100 FPS...I wouldn't worry about performance issues in MMOs with BD. At the time I had netflix open, teamspeak open, and steam.
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November 13, 2011 11:58:47 PM

Just comparing Netburst defenders to that of BD defenders. Yeah, I should stay on topic as should we all.
Would Civilization V count as an MMO? That game is pretty reliant on CPU as well as GPU.
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November 14, 2011 12:13:53 AM

all the older mmo's (worldofwarcraft everquest etc) are heavily CPU bound, i guess that is finally changing.
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November 15, 2011 12:22:17 AM

toms current SB-e review hass BD, PhenonII's, Thubans, in their comparisons as well as intel chips. You can read the whole review or jump right to the Wow benchmark if you like.
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November 15, 2011 12:25:50 AM

Frizzo said:
all the older mmo's (worldofwarcraft everquest etc) are heavily CPU bound, i guess that is finally changing.


Most of the major ones still are. Most are not graphically intensive like EQ2 was at the time. Most use a more basic engine to be able to have massive worlds willed with tons on players and NPCs.
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November 15, 2011 12:27:10 AM

wow doesn't tell me much. wow runs on a pentium 4. now if you can get eq2 to run at solid 60fps, now that is telling me something. (i know it's not coded for modern hardware, all the more reason to be impressed if you can get it to run at 60fps).
it's all becoming irrelevant anyway it seems. those games are dying, and the new crop is coming in. it remains to be seen how the new hardware will run games like oldrepublic/guildwars3/d3, etc.
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November 15, 2011 12:29:14 AM

Frizzo said:
wow doesn't tell me much. wow runs on a pentium 4. now if you can get eq2 to run at solid 60fps, now that is telling me something. (i know it's not coded for modern hardware, all the more reason to be impressed if you can get it to run at 60fps).
it's all becoming irrelevant anyway it seems. those games are dying, and the new crop is coming in. it remains to be seen how the new hardware will run games like oldrepublic/guildwars3/d3, etc.

Yep, WoW actually does run really well under a single core P4 and AGP graphics, which is what my system was a long time ago when I played in vanilla/BC.
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