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June 13, 2011 6:30:14 AM

Hello,
i m going to buy hd5670 1GB card.... my comp specs are dual core 2.8 Ghz, 3 GB ram DDR2, samsung 15" flat screen monitor... will i be able to play latest games at max settings???? should i go for any other graphic card?? will hd 5770 will bottleneck my pc...?? plzzz help me.. :( 
June 13, 2011 6:35:25 AM

pllzzz help me..!! :'( 
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a b U Graphics card
June 13, 2011 7:28:12 AM

firstly what is your monitor resolution at which you play?secondly the 5770 is VERY VERY VERY powerful than the 5670.Its as powerful as 2 5670s.
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a b U Graphics card
June 13, 2011 8:19:41 AM

Surpisingly, the above statement is fairly accurate, as framerates do increase by 50-80% with the 5770 over the 5670.

http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/2011-gaming-graphics...

It comes into perspective when you consider that even the faster of the two is only about tied with the 550Ti, which is considered a weak card, IMO...
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June 13, 2011 8:39:45 AM

celpas said:
firstly what is your monitor resolution at which you play?secondly the 5770 is VERY VERY VERY powerful than the 5670.Its as powerful as 2 5670s.

mah pc's resolutn is 1280*1024...
plz tell me.....
how much fps will i get....on playin games like gta 4 nd crysis 2 with 5670 ??

nd is their much diff b/t 5670 & 5770 on dis resolutn ... plz rpl fast.. !
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June 13, 2011 9:43:46 AM

Shishir18, iwas in exactly the same situation like you 6 months ago. You are from India? Right? See, the 5770 is much much better than 5670. It is easily worth 2500rupees more than 5670. Problem is, for a 5770, you need a good power supply(not just in watts but a good brand also). I went for the 5770 and a new power supply which cost me 8000+3000 Rs. So, you do the math. A 5670 for 4500Rs or a 5770 for 10000Rs. Although I must say, at the resolution of your monitor, a 5670 will be good enough. GL.
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June 13, 2011 10:46:56 AM

shishir18 said:
mah pc's resolutn is 1280*1024...
plz tell me.....
how much fps will i get....on playin games like gta 4 nd crysis 2 with 5670 ??

nd is their much diff b/t 5670 & 5770 on dis resolutn ... plz rpl fast.. !

ok.you are running at a low resolution.the 5770 will easily max out all games at that resolution with 40+ fps seeing as my gtx 275 which is faster than a 5770 can push out max settings in most games at 1680X1050.now gta 4 is a very unoptimised game and is highly cpu dependant.you currently own a dual core which will bottleneck your 5770 in cpu dependant games like gta 4 because your 5770 is a lot faster than your cpu and your cpu will have difficulty keeping up to it.As far as crysis 2 is concerned you will be able to max out the game easily.you can also max out crysis 1 at that resolution.I recommend that you buy a gts 450 because it costs less than a 5770 and although its weaker than the 5770 its enough at your resolution.

And as I said between the 5670 and 5770 don't even look at the 5670 as its MUCH weaker than the 5770 and will have trouble at your resolution.
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a c 130 U Graphics card
June 13, 2011 12:37:58 PM

It seems to me that a 5750 would be the way to go here, split the difference if you like. You can get a version that does not need a power cable if your PSU does not have a PCIE cable.

Mactronix :) 
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a b U Graphics card
June 13, 2011 12:55:02 PM

5670 is excellent at your resolution, even according to the best graphics card for the money article, it has ``exceptional`` perfromance at 1680x1050, let alone resolutions much lower than that. Still a 5770 is better if you are willing to spend more.
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June 13, 2011 3:08:00 PM

the thing is that 5770 is going out of my budget...!!! my budget is jst 5,500 Rs and i wnt to get d bst card which suits my budget... shuld i go for 5670 or ny other???
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June 13, 2011 3:10:42 PM

wrazor said:
Shishir18, iwas in exactly the same situation like you 6 months ago. You are from India? Right? See, the 5770 is much much better than 5670. It is easily worth 2500rupees more than 5670. Problem is, for a 5770, you need a good power supply(not just in watts but a good brand also). I went for the 5770 and a new power supply which cost me 8000+3000 Rs. So, you do the math. A 5670 for 4500Rs or a 5770 for 10000Rs. Although I must say, at the resolution of your monitor, a 5670 will be good enough. GL.


will i be able to play latest games wid 5670 as 5770 is going out of my budget???
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June 13, 2011 3:15:55 PM

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HD 5750 gets my vote too, the card runs at such low wattage that it is in theory capable of running without auxiliary power from the 6 pin, though u still have to plug it in to complete the circuit.
Performance is also only slightly worse than the 5770


5750 is no more available in my city...!! and 5770 is going out of my budget..!! my budget is just 5'500 Rs. shuld i go wid 5670 or any other??? if 5670 then will i be able to play latest games on max setting??
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June 13, 2011 4:00:07 PM

shishir18 said:
5750 is no more available in my city...!! and 5770 is going out of my budget..!! my budget is just 5'500 Rs. shuld i go wid 5670 or any other??? if 5670 then will i be able to play latest games on max setting??

try and find out costs of the gts 250 if its available in your area.If you are on a low budget try and get a nvidia geforce 9800 gt.It is much more powerful than the 5670 and will max out some games at your resolution.The 5670 will be able to play games at your resolution but not at max settings.You will have to turn down settings to low in crysis 2 and you can just forget about running gta 4 as its only optimised to run on high end rigs.
If you can stretch you budget a little this 9800 gt will be perfect for you and your resolution

http://cgi.ebay.in/NVIDIA-GeForce-9800GT-512-DDR3-PCI-E...
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a c 272 U Graphics card
June 13, 2011 4:02:53 PM

shishir18 said:
pllzzz help me..!! :'( 

Bumping a thread after five minutes!! :pfff: 
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a b U Graphics card
June 14, 2011 9:27:58 AM





on an average the 9800 gt is more powerful than the ati 5670

BTW thos benchmark results of gta 4 which you posted have been done using the ingame benchmark tool which is completely useless as it does not take into account gameplay and is not demanding at all.I played gta 4 with an i7 870 oced to 4ghz and a gtx 275 highly overclocked and even then I could only get an average of 30-40 fps on max settings at 1680X1050.Turning settings down to medium only nets me 6 fps more.So if my high overclocked cpu and gpu can only run gta 4 at 30-50 fps what chance does a 5670 with a dual core have?
And as far as crysis 2 is concerned the game feels laggy at 30 fps to me.You need at least 40+ fps to enjoy the game



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June 15, 2011 4:08:36 AM

celpas said:
http://tpucdn.com/reviews/HIS/Radeon_HD_5670_IceQ/images/perfrel.gif

on an average the 9800 gt is more powerful than the ati 5670

BTW thos benchmark results of gta 4 which you posted have been done using the ingame benchmark tool which is completely useless as it does not take into account gameplay and is not demanding at all.I played gta 4 with an i7 870 oced to 4ghz and a gtx 275 highly overclocked and even then I could only get an average of 30-40 fps on max settings at 1680X1050.Turning settings down to medium only nets me 6 fps more.So if my high overclocked cpu and gpu can only run gta 4 at 30-50 fps what chance does a 5670 with a dual core have?
And as far as crysis 2 is concerned the game feels laggy at 30 fps to me.You need at least 40+ fps to enjoy the game

i am planing to buy 1 gb card not 512 mb..!!

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June 15, 2011 4:12:05 AM

another qustion plzzz...!! if i go with 5770 then will it bottleneck my cpu??? with 5770 will i be able to play latest games at max setting???
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a b U Graphics card
June 15, 2011 7:39:50 AM

shishir18 said:
i am planing to buy 1 gb card not 512 mb..!!

don't judge a card on the amount of its vram.I know that in India the salesman tries to make you buy cards by saying look it has 1gb vram.The 5670 is not strong enough to use the 1gb vram which it has been given.The 9800 gt 512 mb is more powerful than the 5670 1gb version.On a sidenote the video ram only comes into play at higher esolutions.Till 1920X1080 1gb of vram is generally enough though there are games like gta 4 and witcher 2 which require more than 1 gb.
As far as the 5770 is concerned it is defienetly MUCH MUCH more powerful than the 9800gt and 5670 but your cpu will bottleneck it since you are playing at a low resolution.If you want to buy a 5770 buy a new monitor which has a resolution of 1680X1050 or higher.
Ultimately my advice to you is to buy a 9800 gt since it will play crysis at high and gta 4 (maybe) at medium settings at 1280X1024.

Here is a good site which shows you how the 9800 gt performs in crysis 2
http://uk.geforce.com/optimise/guides/crysis-2-benchmar...

If you want to see how it performs in other games use this
http://uk.geforce.com/optimise

Just select your gpu.click on find settings and see how the 9800 gt performs at your resolution in the latest games
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a c 130 U Graphics card
June 15, 2011 10:15:04 AM

Why do people have this obsession with telling people they will have a bottleneck ? Not 1 card yet listed will do so.
Mactronix :) 
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June 15, 2011 10:20:54 AM

ah....!!!! jst orderd 5770 hd...wrth rs 7000 i.e around 143$... hope it works well... fingures crossed....!!!!
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a b U Graphics card
June 15, 2011 10:23:23 AM

grats, you will love the card
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June 15, 2011 10:30:09 AM

i have 400w intex psu..
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a b U Graphics card
June 15, 2011 10:32:42 AM

a quality 400w will run the 5770
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a c 130 U Graphics card
June 15, 2011 10:42:07 AM

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@Mac, do u ever leave the GPU part of these forums ?


Now and then :kaola: 
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June 15, 2011 10:56:42 AM

hope that my psu will support my gpu . hope 4 d best :) 
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a b U Graphics card
June 15, 2011 10:59:56 AM

shishir18 said:
hope that my psu will support my gpu . hope 4 d best :) 

enjoy maxing out crysis ;) 
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June 15, 2011 11:05:23 AM

celpas said:
enjoy maxing out crysis ;) 

yeah....!!!! \m/ :p  ;) 
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June 18, 2011 10:22:46 AM

wat the hell...!!!! why cnt i see major difference????? there is very less diff as compared to before...!! earlier i was playing games on my pc whose specs were as follows...:

dual core 2.8
nvdia 9300GS
1.5gb ddr2 ram

and now

dual core 2.8
ati radeon 5770 hd
3 gb ram

and still it is nt workin as it shuld be...!!
why???? i am going to install windows 7 and format my pc....
hope this help..!! :'(  :( 
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June 18, 2011 10:28:52 AM

shishir18 said:
wat the hell...!!!! why cnt i see major difference????? there is very less diff as compared to before...!! earlier i was playing games on my pc whose specs were as follows...:

dual core 2.8
nvdia 9300GS
1.5gb ddr2 ram

and now

dual core 2.8
ati radeon 5770 hd
3 gb ram

and still it is nt workin as it shuld be...!!
why???? i am going to install windows 7 and format my pc....
hope this help..!! :'(  :( 

Firstly check whether the card is seated properly on your motherboard.Check whether your monitor is connected to your card not the inbuilt graphics of the motherboard.Uninstall nvidia drivers if any from your pc
Download Driver sweeper http://www.softpedia.com/get/Security/Secure-cleaning/D... .reboot windows into safe mode.open driver sweeper.Click on nvidia physx,nvidia display and click on clean button.Download latest drivers from AMD and see whether the problem is solved
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June 18, 2011 10:30:21 AM

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It's cause ur CPU is bottlenecking it, I suppose.
Crysis 2 and GTA IV requires Quad Cores to run Smopthly,
Try running Alien Versus Predator , u dont have to buy it, just " download it for free"
it's a game that's seemingly completely graphics reliant


wat about running brink???? i am not able to run that also... even on low settings :'(  it lags hell lot :'( 
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June 18, 2011 10:33:03 AM

shishir18 said:
wat about running brink???? i am not able to run that also... even on low settings :'(  it lags hell lot :'( 

Try doing the measures I posted above.The 5770 should be able to max out Brink easily.
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June 18, 2011 11:24:02 AM

i have uninstalled nvdia drivers...!!! nw i am thinking of formating my pc coz it may happen coz of viruses... as i hadnt formatted since a long tym....!! hope this will help.. coz unstalling nvdia drivers didnt worked at all..!! :( 
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June 18, 2011 11:25:31 AM

and ya one more ques... as i am planning to format... i shuld go wid windows 7 or wid xp (sp3)???
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June 18, 2011 11:33:03 AM

shishir18 said:
and ya one more ques... as i am planning to format... i shuld go wid windows 7 or wid xp (sp3)???

Before you format,just to check whether everything is working right can you download this utility,run it and post a screenshot here?
http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads/1978/TechPowerUp_G...
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June 18, 2011 11:50:04 AM

is it ok???
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June 18, 2011 11:52:49 AM

windows 7 or xp (sp3)???
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a b U Graphics card
June 18, 2011 11:55:07 AM

yeah everything seems to be fine.Try and reformat your windows.Go with windows 7 as its way better than xp.If the performance remains same post back here
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June 18, 2011 12:07:07 PM

hmmm hope that it will work..!! :( 
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June 22, 2011 4:07:53 AM

guys pllzzzzz help me out..!!! i formatted my pc and installed windows 7 32 bit...!! and i tried cod black ops..!!! i am nt able to play..!!! the menu itself is lagging hell lot that i cant even go to the game....!!! and previously when i played it wit 1.5 gb ram and 9300gs it was working ok...!!bt nw wid 3gb ram and 5770hd its working worst..!!! wat the hell is problem wid my graphic card or my pc.?????? is there any software for checking our gpu???? wats d problem...???? plllzzz plllzzz plllzzz ppllzzz help..!! :'( 
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June 22, 2011 4:14:11 AM

Get a minimum GTX 460 if you plan on upgrading your monitor. If not then just get some typical indian GPU like the HD 5670

You need to do a fresh Windows install and then install the drivers from the CD if you have already got the new graphics card
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June 22, 2011 4:25:23 AM

Dereck222 said:
Get a minimum GTX 460 if you plan on upgrading your monitor. If not then just get some typical indian GPU like the HD 5670


i hv already bought 5770..!!!it is nt working d way it shuld...!!! thats why i m searching for solution.!!
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June 22, 2011 4:31:37 AM

shishir18 said:
guys pllzzzzz help me out..!!! i formatted my pc and installed windows 7 32 bit...!! and i tried cod black ops..!!! i am nt able to play..!!! the menu itself is lagging hell lot that i cant even go to the game....!!! and previously when i played it wit 1.5 gb ram and 9300gs it was working ok...!!bt nw wid 3gb ram and 5770hd its working worst..!!! wat the hell is problem wid my graphic card or my pc.?????? is there any software for checking our gpu???? wats d problem...???? plllzzz plllzzz plllzzz ppllzzz help..!! :'( 

OK.First go to AMD website and try out older drivers than the one you have and see whether they work.If they don't I suspect that your card is being heavily bottlenecked by your cpu.Try and upgrade your cpu to a core 2 quad or equivalent or buy a 1920X1080 resolution monitor and the card will be utilised properly as 1080p is a gpu bound resolution while 1280X1024 is a cpu bound one.

@Dereck Do you have any idea what you are talking about?On an average the gtx 460 is 25% faster than the 5770.If the 5770 can't even run black ops then a gtx 460 will make the problem worse.Besides its not that much powerful than 5770.

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June 22, 2011 4:37:26 AM

celpas said:
OK.First go to AMD website and try out older drivers than the one you have and see whether they work.If they don't I suspect that your card is being heavily bottlenecked by your cpu.Try and upgrade your cpu to a core 2 quad or equivalent or buy a 1920X1080 resolution monitor and the card will be utilised properly as 1080p is a gpu bound resolution while 1280X1024 is a cpu bound one.

@Dereck Do you have any idea what you are talking about?On an average the gtx 460 is 25% faster than the 5770.If the 5770 can't even run black ops then a gtx 460 will make the problem worse.Besides its not that much powerful than 5770.


ok i will try wid all drivers..!!!! bt i cnt afford buying a new processor or new monitor..!!! u all told me that 5770 it better then 5670 so i bought 5770 nw i am suffering hell lot becouse of u guys....!!! :fou:  !
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a b U Graphics card
June 22, 2011 4:38:27 AM

@shishir I think I can determine whether your gpu is not being utilised properly.
Pleaase download EVGA Precision http://majorgeeks.com/EVGA_Precision_d6209.html

Install EVGA Precision
Click on start go into all programs into EVGA Precision and click on EVGA Precision.
After the program opens.Click on the wrench icon(the button which looks like a spanner to the side of Apply button).Click on monitoring tab and see whether the gpu usage icon is ticked.If not click on it and a tick will appear to its left side.Click on OK button.Minimize the application to taskbar.Now launch the game.To the top left side you will see a perecentage constatntly updating.See whether your gpu is being used 100% at all times.Post back here with your observations.
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June 22, 2011 4:55:14 AM

celpas said:
@shishir I think I can determine whether your gpu is not being utilised properly.
Pleaase download EVGA Precision http://majorgeeks.com/EVGA_Precision_d6209.html

Install EVGA Precision
Click on start go into all programs into EVGA Precision and click on EVGA Precision.
After the program opens.Click on the wrench icon(the button which looks like a spanner to the side of Apply button).Click on monitoring tab and see whether the gpu usage icon is ticked.If not click on it and a tick will appear to its left side.Click on OK button.Minimize the application to taskbar.Now launch the game.To the top left side you will see a perecentage constatntly updating.See whether your gpu is being used 100% at all times.Post back here with your observations.


the app is not opening..!! the error comes saying "failed to initialize display driver wrapper!"....
nw wat??
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June 22, 2011 5:01:11 AM

plllzzzzzz help..!!
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June 22, 2011 5:34:01 AM

hellow..!!!!!!! any body there..????? any solution????
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a b U Graphics card
June 22, 2011 5:45:27 AM

shishir18 said:
plllzzzzzz help..!!

If the error message is that check PROPERLY whether your video card is properly connected and SEE whether you have connected your montior TO the card and not inbulit graphics.The message is appearing because you have not installed your drivers correctly.I suggest that you call some engineer in your area who will check whether you have installed the card and your driver correctly
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June 22, 2011 7:10:16 AM

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Im guessing
1. ur PSU is too weak
2. reinstall the drivers from AMD's website, use the latest
3. any other games having this issue?
4. Since u just reformated to Win 7, is it pirated? if so, are u sure u've "done" it correctly?
5.


1. 400W intex psu
2. latest driver already installed
3. fifa 11 and brink
4. its correctly done
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