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My $11,000 System, Is it overkill?

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August 16, 2011 5:54:11 PM

I decided a week ago that i was going to go all out on a new PC. I've ordered all the parts, just waiting on my parts from Danger Den to be delivered so i can put it all together. Here are the specs:


3x EVGA 03G-P3-1591-AR GeForce GTX 580 (Fermi) Hydro Copper 2 3072MB 384-bit

GIGABYTE G1.Assassin LGA 1366 Intel X58 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 XL ATX Intel Motherboard

Intel Core i7-990X Extreme Edition Gulftown 3.46GHz LGA 1366 130W Six-Core

Kingston HyperX T1 Black Series 24GB (6 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800)

2x OCZ Vertex 3 VTX3-25SAT3-120G 2.5" 120GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) (raid 0 system drive)

8x Western Digital VelociRaptor WD6000HLHX 600GB 10000 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s (raid 0 storage)

Intel RAID SATA 8 internal port w/ 256MB cache memory PCI-E 2.0 x8 Controller Card (RT3WB080)

CORSAIR Professional Series Gold AX1200 (CMPSU-1200AX) 1200W ATX12V v2.31 / EPS12V v2.92

SILVERSTONE Temjin Series TJ11B-W Black Aluminum ATX Full Tower Computer Case

Hauppauge WinTV-HVR 1850 (updated version of 1800) MCE Kit 1128

Creative PCI Express Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty Champion Series Sound Card

LITE-ON Black 12X Blu-ray Burner with Blu-ray 3D feature SATA

LITE-ON DVD Burner - Bulk Black SATA

Koutech IO-RCM630 Multi-in-1 USB 3.0 SuperSpeed Front Panel Internal Card Reader with USB 3.0 Port (3.5")

Creative HS-1200 USB Connector Circumaural Digital Wireless Gaming Headset

3x ViewSonic VX2753mh-LED Black 27" Full HD HDMI LED BackLight LCD Monitor w/Speakers

Logitech MX 5500 Revolution Black Bluetooth Cordless Desktop Standard keyboard & Mouse Kit

Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-bit - OEM

Complete Water Cooling system and Cable Management kits from Danger Den



Needless to say my wife thinks i am insane, But 11k is less than 1 months income for me. You can't take it with you, so enjoy it now. Right? Basicly i am posting here to ask the community if any of these parts are incompatible or less than top of the line, as i still have unopened boxes i could exchange anything i needed to at this point.

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August 16, 2011 6:20:05 PM

mkincy1102 said:
I decided a week ago that i was going to go all out on a new PC. I've ordered all the parts, just waiting on my parts from Danger Den to be delivered so i can put it all together. Here are the specs:


3x EVGA 03G-P3-1591-AR GeForce GTX 580 (Fermi) Hydro Copper 2 3072MB 384-bit

GIGABYTE G1.Assassin LGA 1366 Intel X58 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 XL ATX Intel Motherboard

Intel Core i7-990X Extreme Edition Gulftown 3.46GHz LGA 1366 130W Six-Core

Kingston HyperX T1 Black Series 24GB (6 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800)

2x OCZ Vertex 3 VTX3-25SAT3-120G 2.5" 120GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) (raid 0 system drive)

8x Western Digital VelociRaptor WD6000HLHX 600GB 10000 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s (raid 0 storage)

Intel RAID SATA 8 internal port w/ 256MB cache memory PCI-E 2.0 x8 Controller Card (RT3WB080)

CORSAIR Professional Series Gold AX1200 (CMPSU-1200AX) 1200W ATX12V v2.31 / EPS12V v2.92

SILVERSTONE Temjin Series TJ11B-W Black Aluminum ATX Full Tower Computer Case

Hauppauge WinTV-HVR 1850 (updated version of 1800) MCE Kit 1128

Creative PCI Express Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty Champion Series Sound Card

LITE-ON Black 12X Blu-ray Burner with Blu-ray 3D feature SATA

LITE-ON DVD Burner - Bulk Black SATA

Koutech IO-RCM630 Multi-in-1 USB 3.0 SuperSpeed Front Panel Internal Card Reader with USB 3.0 Port (3.5")

Creative HS-1200 USB Connector Circumaural Digital Wireless Gaming Headset

3x ViewSonic VX2753mh-LED Black 27" Full HD HDMI LED BackLight LCD Monitor w/Speakers

Logitech MX 5500 Revolution Black Bluetooth Cordless Desktop Standard keyboard & Mouse Kit

Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-bit - OEM

Complete Water Cooling system and Cable Management kits from Danger Den



Needless to say my wife thinks i am insane, But 11k is less than 1 months income for me. You can't take it with you, so enjoy it now. Right? Basicly i am posting here to ask the community if any of these parts are incompatible or less than top of the line, as i still have unopened boxes i could exchange anything i needed to at this point.


Can I have your job? :D  :D  :D 

Don't bother with the 990X. I you *MUST* have a 6-core, wait for the new i7 Sandy Bridge 6-cores due out in a few months.
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August 16, 2011 6:31:30 PM

This post = ROFL

I could build a machine that would put that one to shame for $3500 or less.

You made a big (expensive) mistake going with s1366. You should have come here for advice before you purchased.
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August 16, 2011 6:35:01 PM

geekapproved said:
This post = ROFL

I could build a machine that would put that one to shame for $3500 or less.

You made a big (expensive) mistake going with s1366. You should have come here for advice before you purchased.


there've been two of these crazy posts. This and the guy who wanted a $9000 PC for his high school graduation money.

I think *everyone* told him to buy a nice used car.
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August 16, 2011 6:44:37 PM

geekapproved said:
This post = ROFL

I could build a machine that would put that one to shame for $3500 or less.

You made a big (expensive) mistake going with s1366. You should have come here for advice before you purchased.


Well thats actually why i am here, i can return things if needed. Post up some parts for your $3500 recomendation. I'm open to sugjestions.
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August 16, 2011 7:01:58 PM

I would suggest Core i7 2600K CPU, it is damn fast and will put that 990 in its place reasonably easily in most of the benchmarks/real world applications.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

For the motherboard I think Geek would surely be able to help you on this one. Generally because I tend to buy Intel motherboards, as I never overclock etc. and rock solid stability/reliability over few %age of performance is more important for me.
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August 16, 2011 7:06:07 PM

mkincy1102 said:
Well thats actually why i am here, i can return things if needed. Post up some parts for your $3500 recomendation. I'm open to sugjestions.


Ok then first off return the motherboard, cpu, ram, and all the velociraptors, then we'll start from there.

Intel i7-2600K
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Intel Z68 motherboard of your choice
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
16GB of 1.5v DDR3-1600 of your choice
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

see comparison chart below. 990X wasn't available, but 980X was. Remember the 2600K is at stock 3.4ghz speeds, it can easily overclock to 4.5ghz (some over 5ghz) without a sweat and it's 1/3 the price.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/142?vs=287

Besides, Intel is coming out with even faster processors soon and Ivy Bridge next year which will drop right into your s1155 Z68.



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August 16, 2011 7:06:36 PM

ScrewySqrl said:
there've been two of these crazy posts. This and the guy who wanted a $9000 PC for his high school graduation money.

I think *everyone* told him to buy a nice used car.

there was 3 of them one was the most expensive pc it wasn't actuqally being built for my parts list

i7 2600k + mobo http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

3 gtx 580s you dont need really need 3 of them

a good AIR cooler

psu http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

ram 16 GB http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... 8gigs is a little overkill.

storage http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... and only 2 580s or

2x http://www.newegg.com/Shopping/ShoppingItem.aspx?ItemLi... and 4 x http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

the storage is unnessesary but you only need the 1 ssd drive.
as for case how about this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

the monitors are personal preference

media drive http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


EDIT realistically
My cpu +mobo suggestion 550
ram http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... 70
2 580s what about 1k?
MY blu ray drive 130
hdd 4x http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... 360
ssd http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... 210
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August 16, 2011 7:28:19 PM

if you want insane, get 2 590's
2600K cpu
z68 motherboard

drop the insane raptor raid system you had planned, if you want fast storage all around for what? games? just add a couple more SSD's, for movies - don't use this system, build a different one designed just to be a HTPC (put the tv tuner there) and build a server as well with all your storage. - you don't use this system for movies as it will idle at like 300watts - water cooling is pretty nice, but i don't think necessary.

take your 11K, and split it among 3 high end systems
a really nice HTPC (most money going to a fanless PSU & kickass case) will run about 1K
a good server will have core components such as an i5 2400 and (put your raid here, but instead of 0, set it to 5) also get a case to handle 10-12 drives and drop in some 3TB drives (3 or 4 to start),,, better to add as you need them as drive capacity increases, or if you want to set it and forget it, put in 10 drives,, even that will only cost 3-4K in total with all the drives.
still leaves you with 6-7K for a top end system

2 590s 1500$
2600K 400$
MB 400$
Case 400$
RAM 400$
PSU 400$
Cooling ?? 1500??
SSD storage ?? 1K??
accessories (DVD/Bluray/Card reader/Audio card) 700$
Total ~~5500 - overbudgeting for everything

hey I'll put it all together for you for 2000 if you want to make sure everything plays well ;)  - AND to make sure you burn the 11K you were looking to spend
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August 16, 2011 7:28:20 PM

Unless you are going to be doing a lot of audio/video creation or some other heavily multi-threaded application the Intel® Core™ i7-2600K is a better processor. With this change you will moved to a P67 or Z68 board. Also with the change of processor you are going to be changing the RAM. Boards that support the 2nd generation Intel Core processors will top off at 4 DIMM slots so step back to 16GB of DDR 3 and focus on the 1600. Another thing to be aware of is that you want to make sure the memory that you use is 1.5v or below. If you use higher voltage memory you can push the tolerance on the processor’s memory controller and damage the processor and void your warranty.

Also while you can run SSDs off from the controller that you have selected the value behind doing it is very minimal. Simple rule is unless you are in an enterprise class environment don’t RAID SSDs.

Also moving to the 2nd generation Intel Core processors most likely you are going to step down to running 2 video cards. With the “6” series boards when you try to go change to SLI or Crossfire it will drop the PCI-e x16 slots to x8/x8 but the good news is that there is very little performance lose from this. Maybe something like the Asus Maximaus IV-Z would fit your needs well.

In the end while there are lots of ways that you can spend your money they may not yield the best system for your needs.

Christian Wood
Intel Enthusiast Team
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August 16, 2011 7:39:40 PM

Just my two cents. Drop the Hauppauge WIN-TV HVR 1850 MCE kit and go with a Ceton Corp InfiniTV TV Tuner card and nice Harmony Universal remote.

-Wolf sends
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August 16, 2011 7:40:01 PM

There are good points being made about similar productivity out of cheaper systems but I think there are two things that need to be said...

First, 8 drives in RAID0 is a BAD idea. If any one of those drives goes down you lose ALL of your data. With 8 drives the odds are one of them going down are way too high. If you're going to buy 8 drives use a realistic RAID like RAID5 or RAID10.

Also, I'm not sure you'll be able to run water cooling to your video cards with the setup you've got. Your mobo has 4 PCIe 2.0 x16 slots and the first three will have video cards while the last one has your RAID card. Between the first three you'll have your sound card and your tv card in those PCIe 2.0 x1 slots and I don't know how you're going to get water cooling in there.

While I'm commenting, I would have to agree with other posts that an i7-2600K with a $300 mobo is going to perform as well, if not better, in most situations than the chip/mobo you've picked. And three 580s is...certainly overkill.
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August 16, 2011 7:48:17 PM

The 580's i have come from the factory set up for water cooling, they were $700 each.

changing to a 2600k proc and 1155 mobo
16 gigs ram
2x 580's
1x SSD
4x 1.5 tb hard drives rather than the raptors reduces the total price by about $4100



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August 16, 2011 7:53:57 PM

Wolfshadw said:
Just my two cents. Drop the Hauppauge WIN-TV HVR 1850 MCE kit and go with a Ceton Corp InfiniTV TV Tuner card and nice Harmony Universal remote.

-Wolf sends



I have the Ceton infiniTV in my HTPC, love it, 4 tuners, its a great card. But i have all 4 tuners in use through media extenders.
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August 16, 2011 7:59:51 PM

Oh goody
another

"hey look at me "

thread
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August 16, 2011 8:01:33 PM

danraies said:
First, 8 drives in RAID0 is a BAD idea. If any one of those drives goes down you lose ALL of your data. With 8 drives the odds are one of them going down are way too high. If you're going to buy 8 drives use a realistic RAID like RAID5 or RAID10.


Good thinking, i hadn't concidered that.


danraies said:
Also, I'm not sure you'll be able to run water cooling to your video cards with the setup you've got. Your mobo has 4 PCIe 2.0 x16 slots and the first three will have video cards while the last one has your RAID card. Between the first three you'll have your sound card and your tv card in those PCIe 2.0 x1 slots and I don't know how you're going to get water cooling in there.


The water conectors come out of the top side of the cards and are about 1 inch above them. all other cards should fit under the water tubing.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...



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August 16, 2011 8:03:57 PM

Outlander_04 said:
Oh goody
another

"hey look at me "

thread



Would you like some peanut butter to go with that jelly?
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August 16, 2011 8:05:33 PM

^^i was worried about mixing a massive RAID array with a gaming system as well because of the other high end components and space required for all the hard drives will not be good for heat, even with the cooling.

i make almost that much a month myself and i still won't spend that kind of dough on 1 system,,, i think i just may be more frugal (or too cheap) to do that..
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August 16, 2011 8:06:34 PM

mkincy1102 said:
Would you like some peanut butter to go with that jelly?

LOL never heard that one before, I'm gonna use it
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August 16, 2011 8:09:19 PM

mkincy1102 said:
I have the Ceton infiniTV in my HTPC, love it, 4 tuners, its a great card. But i have all 4 tuners in use through media extenders.


So get another card and TunerSalad for recording purposes.

-Wolf sends
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August 16, 2011 8:18:18 PM

Another idea would be to set up a NAS with the 4 hard drives, would be less heat and better airflow, and you definitely have the money for it
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August 16, 2011 8:29:47 PM

If you have the money, just go to iBUYPOWER and build the most expensive i5 2600k system you can.
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August 16, 2011 8:30:46 PM

rholdy123 said:
Another idea would be to set up a NAS with the 4 hard drives, would be less heat and better airflow, and you definitely have the money for it


That is another great idea. I've been looking for a 4 drive external raid enclosure with usb 3.0 connection. The only one i have found looks cheaply made though. NAS is a bit too slow.
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August 16, 2011 8:31:27 PM

Wolfshadw said:
So get another card and TunerSalad for recording purposes.

-Wolf sends

Awesome thanks! I didn't know this program existed.
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August 16, 2011 8:33:20 PM

Thanks for all the great ideas and input. I'm glad i poped in here.
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August 16, 2011 8:41:06 PM

mkincy1102 said:
The water conectors come out of the top side of the cards and are about 1 inch above them. all other cards should fit under the water tubing.


You're right, I missed that.
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August 16, 2011 9:13:43 PM

Get a Pioneer BluRay drive. It is a much better drive. Burning a few 25G coasters will make you wish you bought one.
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August 17, 2011 12:47:58 AM

i7 2600k, save the money and then get ivy bridge
sabertooth p67
crossfire 6990's
12 gb ddr3 ram
2tb HD
watercooling
a nice case
3 1920x1080 monitors

PS. I can haz ur jawb?
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August 17, 2011 1:36:38 AM

onefearlesssniper said:

12 gb ddr3 ram


4x3GB? No triple channel memory on sandy bridge
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August 19, 2011 12:21:34 PM

that's right, my fault. 8gb will be fine then, if you want go 16
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August 19, 2011 11:01:13 PM

well you could do 12 in the form of 4 GB (2x2gb) + 8 GB (2x4gb). But at this price point, why?
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August 20, 2011 1:55:41 AM

ScrewySqrl said:
there've been two of these crazy posts. This and the guy who wanted a $9000 PC for his high school graduation money.

I think *everyone* told him to buy a nice used car.



I also told him to buy a used car lol :p  That was one crazy person heh
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August 20, 2011 2:02:06 AM

You should save and buy a Porsche gt3 instead.
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