If Terry Schiavo was a fetus, would you have her aborted?
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Why do we let people be born into lives of pain merely for the sake of
ancient religious dogma?
Why do we let people be born into lives of pain merely for the sake of
ancient religious dogma?
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duke wrote:
> On 23 Mar 2005 18:11:53 -0800, stevelionelyoung@hotmail.com (Lionel)
wrote:
>
> >Why do we let people be born into lives of pain merely for the sake
of
> >ancient religious dogma?
>
> Because it's inhumane and wrong for you to decide otherwise.
Why is it inhumane?
duke wrote:
> On 23 Mar 2005 18:11:53 -0800, stevelionelyoung@hotmail.com (Lionel)
wrote:
>
> >Why do we let people be born into lives of pain merely for the sake
of
> >ancient religious dogma?
>
> Because it's inhumane and wrong for you to decide otherwise.
Why is it inhumane?
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> Why do we let people be born into lives of pain merely for the sake of
> ancient religious dogma?
We?
> Why do we let people be born into lives of pain merely for the sake of
> ancient religious dogma?
We?
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On 24 Mar 2005 05:25:09 -0800, chris_h_fleming@yahoo.com wrote:
>duke wrote:
>> On 23 Mar 2005 18:11:53 -0800, stevelionelyoung@hotmail.com (Lionel)
>wrote:
>>
>> >Why do we let people be born into lives of pain merely for the sake
>of
>> >ancient religious dogma?
>>
>> Because it's inhumane and wrong for you to decide otherwise.
>
>Why is it inhumane?
Why were you allowed to live?
"Life may not be the party we hoped for, but while we are here we might as well dance."
Author Unknown
On 24 Mar 2005 05:25:09 -0800, chris_h_fleming@yahoo.com wrote:
>duke wrote:
>> On 23 Mar 2005 18:11:53 -0800, stevelionelyoung@hotmail.com (Lionel)
>wrote:
>>
>> >Why do we let people be born into lives of pain merely for the sake
>of
>> >ancient religious dogma?
>>
>> Because it's inhumane and wrong for you to decide otherwise.
>
>Why is it inhumane?
Why were you allowed to live?
"Life may not be the party we hoped for, but while we are here we might as well dance."
Author Unknown
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On 23 Mar 2005 18:11:53 -0800, stevelionelyoung@hotmail.com (Lionel)
wrote:
>Why do we let people be born into lives of pain merely for the sake of
>ancient religious dogma?
1) Her pain is due to the fact that she is being starved to death.
2) Just because a religious dogma is ancient, doesn't mean it's in
error or irrelevant. It seems to me that the Law of Gravity is pretty
old yet no one is doubting its truth or usefulness.
Gary J Sibio
garysibio@earthlink.net
http://home.earthlink.net/~garysibio/
There are 10 types of people: those who understand binary numbers and those who don't.
On 23 Mar 2005 18:11:53 -0800, stevelionelyoung@hotmail.com (Lionel)
wrote:
>Why do we let people be born into lives of pain merely for the sake of
>ancient religious dogma?
1) Her pain is due to the fact that she is being starved to death.
2) Just because a religious dogma is ancient, doesn't mean it's in
error or irrelevant. It seems to me that the Law of Gravity is pretty
old yet no one is doubting its truth or usefulness.
Gary J Sibio
garysibio@earthlink.net
http://home.earthlink.net/~garysibio/
There are 10 types of people: those who understand binary numbers and those who don't.
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garysibio@earthlink.net wrote:
> 2) Just because a religious dogma is ancient, doesn't mean it's in
> error or irrelevant. It seems to me that the Law of Gravity is pretty
> old yet no one is doubting its truth or usefulness.
If you can't see the difference in
truthfulness between religions dogma
and the law of gravity... I guess you
got the Preznit you deserve.
rafe b.
http://www.terrapinphoto.com
garysibio@earthlink.net wrote:
> 2) Just because a religious dogma is ancient, doesn't mean it's in
> error or irrelevant. It seems to me that the Law of Gravity is pretty
> old yet no one is doubting its truth or usefulness.
If you can't see the difference in
truthfulness between religions dogma
and the law of gravity... I guess you
got the Preznit you deserve.
rafe b.
http://www.terrapinphoto.com
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On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 21:39:13 GMT, garysibio@earthlink.net in
alt.abortion with message-id
<vbc641lsit36vvmd8vd2vlvjai892e3d64@4ax.com> wrote:
>On 23 Mar 2005 18:11:53 -0800, stevelionelyoung@hotmail.com (Lionel)
>wrote:
>
>>Why do we let people be born into lives of pain merely for the sake of
>>ancient religious dogma?
>
>1) Her pain is due to the fact that she is being starved to death.
According to the experts there is no pain.
>
>2) Just because a religious dogma is ancient, doesn't mean it's in
>error or irrelevant. It seems to me that the Law of Gravity is pretty
>old yet no one is doubting its truth or usefulness.
>
Oh come now. The Law of Gravity is consistent, measurable, and
provable. None of that is true about any part of any religion.
Prove any religious dogma correct.
On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 21:39:13 GMT, garysibio@earthlink.net in
alt.abortion with message-id
<vbc641lsit36vvmd8vd2vlvjai892e3d64@4ax.com> wrote:
>On 23 Mar 2005 18:11:53 -0800, stevelionelyoung@hotmail.com (Lionel)
>wrote:
>
>>Why do we let people be born into lives of pain merely for the sake of
>>ancient religious dogma?
>
>1) Her pain is due to the fact that she is being starved to death.
According to the experts there is no pain.
>
>2) Just because a religious dogma is ancient, doesn't mean it's in
>error or irrelevant. It seems to me that the Law of Gravity is pretty
>old yet no one is doubting its truth or usefulness.
>
Oh come now. The Law of Gravity is consistent, measurable, and
provable. None of that is true about any part of any religion.
Prove any religious dogma correct.
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<garysibio@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> On 23 Mar 2005 18:11:53 -0800, stevelionelyoung@hotmail.com (Lionel)
> wrote:
>
> >Why do we let people be born into lives of pain merely for the sake of
> >ancient religious dogma?
>
> 1) Her pain is due to the fact that she is being starved to death.
No one is home to experience the pain. There is only a non-aware
body with a live nervous system.
>
> 2) Just because a religious dogma is ancient, doesn't mean it's in
> error or irrelevant. It seems to me that the Law of Gravity is pretty
> old yet no one is doubting its truth or usefulness.
>
>
>
> Gary J Sibio
> garysibio@earthlink.net
> http://home.earthlink.net/~garysibio/
>
> There are 10 types of people: those who understand binary numbers and
those who don't.
<garysibio@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> On 23 Mar 2005 18:11:53 -0800, stevelionelyoung@hotmail.com (Lionel)
> wrote:
>
> >Why do we let people be born into lives of pain merely for the sake of
> >ancient religious dogma?
>
> 1) Her pain is due to the fact that she is being starved to death.
No one is home to experience the pain. There is only a non-aware
body with a live nervous system.
>
> 2) Just because a religious dogma is ancient, doesn't mean it's in
> error or irrelevant. It seems to me that the Law of Gravity is pretty
> old yet no one is doubting its truth or usefulness.
>
>
>
> Gary J Sibio
> garysibio@earthlink.net
> http://home.earthlink.net/~garysibio/
>
> There are 10 types of people: those who understand binary numbers and
those who don't.
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On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 21:39:13 GMT, garysibio@earthlink.net wrote:
>On 23 Mar 2005 18:11:53 -0800, stevelionelyoung@hotmail.com (Lionel)
>wrote:
>
>>Why do we let people be born into lives of pain merely for the sake of
>>ancient religious dogma?
>
>1) Her pain is due to the fact that she is being starved to death.
>
Stop making things up.
thumper
>2) Just because a religious dogma is ancient, doesn't mean it's in
>error or irrelevant. It seems to me that the Law of Gravity is pretty
>old yet no one is doubting its truth or usefulness.
>
>
>
>Gary J Sibio
>garysibio@earthlink.net
>http://home.earthlink.net/~garysibio/
>
>There are 10 types of people: those who understand binary numbers and those who don't.
To reply drop XYZ in address
On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 21:39:13 GMT, garysibio@earthlink.net wrote:
>On 23 Mar 2005 18:11:53 -0800, stevelionelyoung@hotmail.com (Lionel)
>wrote:
>
>>Why do we let people be born into lives of pain merely for the sake of
>>ancient religious dogma?
>
>1) Her pain is due to the fact that she is being starved to death.
>
Stop making things up.
thumper
>2) Just because a religious dogma is ancient, doesn't mean it's in
>error or irrelevant. It seems to me that the Law of Gravity is pretty
>old yet no one is doubting its truth or usefulness.
>
>
>
>Gary J Sibio
>garysibio@earthlink.net
>http://home.earthlink.net/~garysibio/
>
>There are 10 types of people: those who understand binary numbers and those who don't.
To reply drop XYZ in address
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On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 18:01:00 -0500, Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 21:39:13 GMT, garysibio@earthlink.net in
>alt.abortion with message-id
><vbc641lsit36vvmd8vd2vlvjai892e3d64@4ax.com> wrote:
>
>>On 23 Mar 2005 18:11:53 -0800, stevelionelyoung@hotmail.com (Lionel)
>>wrote:
>>
>>>Why do we let people be born into lives of pain merely for the sake of
>>>ancient religious dogma?
>>
>>1) Her pain is due to the fact that she is being starved to death.
>
>According to the experts there is no pain.
depends on which "experts" you believe.
lket me guess: cnn, abc, cnn, dan blather.................
>>
"Life may not be the party we hoped for, but while we are here we might as well dance."
Author Unknown
On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 18:01:00 -0500, Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 21:39:13 GMT, garysibio@earthlink.net in
>alt.abortion with message-id
><vbc641lsit36vvmd8vd2vlvjai892e3d64@4ax.com> wrote:
>
>>On 23 Mar 2005 18:11:53 -0800, stevelionelyoung@hotmail.com (Lionel)
>>wrote:
>>
>>>Why do we let people be born into lives of pain merely for the sake of
>>>ancient religious dogma?
>>
>>1) Her pain is due to the fact that she is being starved to death.
>
>According to the experts there is no pain.
depends on which "experts" you believe.
lket me guess: cnn, abc, cnn, dan blather.................
>>
"Life may not be the party we hoped for, but while we are here we might as well dance."
Author Unknown
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On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 17:38:43 -0600, CB <country2000@hotmail.com> in
alt.abortion with message-id
<mqj6415ho8ps90qjen1ov7kp7tmuv786gf@4ax.com> wrote:
>On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 18:01:00 -0500, Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 21:39:13 GMT, garysibio@earthlink.net in
>>alt.abortion with message-id
>><vbc641lsit36vvmd8vd2vlvjai892e3d64@4ax.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On 23 Mar 2005 18:11:53 -0800, stevelionelyoung@hotmail.com (Lionel)
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>Why do we let people be born into lives of pain merely for the sake of
>>>>ancient religious dogma?
>>>
>>>1) Her pain is due to the fact that she is being starved to death.
>>
>>According to the experts there is no pain.
>
>
>depends on which "experts" you believe.
>
>lket me guess: cnn, abc, cnn, dan blather.................
>
From what have heard - medical experts.
On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 17:38:43 -0600, CB <country2000@hotmail.com> in
alt.abortion with message-id
<mqj6415ho8ps90qjen1ov7kp7tmuv786gf@4ax.com> wrote:
>On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 18:01:00 -0500, Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 21:39:13 GMT, garysibio@earthlink.net in
>>alt.abortion with message-id
>><vbc641lsit36vvmd8vd2vlvjai892e3d64@4ax.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On 23 Mar 2005 18:11:53 -0800, stevelionelyoung@hotmail.com (Lionel)
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>Why do we let people be born into lives of pain merely for the sake of
>>>>ancient religious dogma?
>>>
>>>1) Her pain is due to the fact that she is being starved to death.
>>
>>According to the experts there is no pain.
>
>
>depends on which "experts" you believe.
>
>lket me guess: cnn, abc, cnn, dan blather.................
>
From what have heard - medical experts.
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On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 19:27:54 -0500, Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 17:38:43 -0600, CB <country2000@hotmail.com> in
>alt.abortion with message-id
><mqj6415ho8ps90qjen1ov7kp7tmuv786gf@4ax.com> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 18:01:00 -0500, Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 21:39:13 GMT, garysibio@earthlink.net in
>>>alt.abortion with message-id
>>><vbc641lsit36vvmd8vd2vlvjai892e3d64@4ax.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On 23 Mar 2005 18:11:53 -0800, stevelionelyoung@hotmail.com (Lionel)
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Why do we let people be born into lives of pain merely for the sake of
>>>>>ancient religious dogma?
>>>>
>>>>1) Her pain is due to the fact that she is being starved to death.
>>>
>>>According to the experts there is no pain.
>>
>>
>>depends on which "experts" you believe.
>>
>>lket me guess: cnn, abc, cnn, dan blather.................
>>
>
>From what have heard - medical experts.
There are other medical experts that says she is not PVS.
"Life may not be the party we hoped for, but while we are here we might as well dance."
Author Unknown
On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 19:27:54 -0500, Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 17:38:43 -0600, CB <country2000@hotmail.com> in
>alt.abortion with message-id
><mqj6415ho8ps90qjen1ov7kp7tmuv786gf@4ax.com> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 18:01:00 -0500, Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 21:39:13 GMT, garysibio@earthlink.net in
>>>alt.abortion with message-id
>>><vbc641lsit36vvmd8vd2vlvjai892e3d64@4ax.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On 23 Mar 2005 18:11:53 -0800, stevelionelyoung@hotmail.com (Lionel)
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Why do we let people be born into lives of pain merely for the sake of
>>>>>ancient religious dogma?
>>>>
>>>>1) Her pain is due to the fact that she is being starved to death.
>>>
>>>According to the experts there is no pain.
>>
>>
>>depends on which "experts" you believe.
>>
>>lket me guess: cnn, abc, cnn, dan blather.................
>>
>
>From what have heard - medical experts.
There are other medical experts that says she is not PVS.
"Life may not be the party we hoped for, but while we are here we might as well dance."
Author Unknown
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On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 19:27:54 -0500, Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:
Hey, the Pope is looking a bit weak. When he "goes" why not put his
body on forced artificial feeding and keep him "alive" ... ... :-)
(No offence, sir, as Popes go you were pretty good...)
Hmmm... this gets interesting - will "W" do this to his parents?
I'll bet George Snr, is writting a Living Will real quick!!! :-)
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On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 19:27:54 -0500, Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:
Hey, the Pope is looking a bit weak. When he "goes" why not put his
body on forced artificial feeding and keep him "alive" ... ... :-)
(No offence, sir, as Popes go you were pretty good...)
Hmmm... this gets interesting - will "W" do this to his parents?
I'll bet George Snr, is writting a Living Will real quick!!! :-)
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in article nt2641tc8pd42691et3f3r94hur4k7o46b@4ax.com, CB at
country2000@hotmail.com wrote on 3/24/05 1:49 PM:
> On 24 Mar 2005 05:25:09 -0800, chris_h_fleming@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>> duke wrote:
>>> On 23 Mar 2005 18:11:53 -0800, stevelionelyoung@hotmail.com (Lionel)
>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Why do we let people be born into lives of pain merely for the sake
>> of
>>>> ancient religious dogma?
>>>
>>> Because it's inhumane and wrong for you to decide otherwise.
>>
>> Why is it inhumane?
>
> Why were you allowed to live?
>
Because CB couldn't get a material/political reward for killing you
off...
Paul
in article nt2641tc8pd42691et3f3r94hur4k7o46b@4ax.com, CB at
country2000@hotmail.com wrote on 3/24/05 1:49 PM:
> On 24 Mar 2005 05:25:09 -0800, chris_h_fleming@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>> duke wrote:
>>> On 23 Mar 2005 18:11:53 -0800, stevelionelyoung@hotmail.com (Lionel)
>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Why do we let people be born into lives of pain merely for the sake
>> of
>>>> ancient religious dogma?
>>>
>>> Because it's inhumane and wrong for you to decide otherwise.
>>
>> Why is it inhumane?
>
> Why were you allowed to live?
>
Because CB couldn't get a material/political reward for killing you
off...
Paul
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CB <country2000@hotmail.com> wrote in
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> On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 19:27:54 -0500, Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 17:38:43 -0600, CB <country2000@hotmail.com> in
>>alt.abortion with message-id
>><mqj6415ho8ps90qjen1ov7kp7tmuv786gf@4ax.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 18:01:00 -0500, Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 21:39:13 GMT, garysibio@earthlink.net in
>>>>alt.abortion with message-id
>>>><vbc641lsit36vvmd8vd2vlvjai892e3d64@4ax.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On 23 Mar 2005 18:11:53 -0800, stevelionelyoung@hotmail.com (Lionel)
>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Why do we let people be born into lives of pain merely for the sake
>>>>>>of ancient religious dogma?
>>>>>
>>>>>1) Her pain is due to the fact that she is being starved to death.
>>>>
>>>>According to the experts there is no pain.
>>>
>>>
>>>depends on which "experts" you believe.
>>>
>>>lket me guess: cnn, abc, cnn, dan blather.................
>>>
>>
>>From what have heard - medical experts.
>
> There are other medical experts that says she is not PVS.
>
If the "other medical experts" had any real credibility, the courts would
surely have take notice and modified their position by now. As it is,
your "other experts" seem to have about as much credibility as you looney
neocon wingnuts.
> "Life may not be the party we hoped for, but while we are here we might
> as well dance." Author Unknown
>
CB <country2000@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:6r1741hprnhou6lfefatjqjkqr47aj9t9g@4ax.com:
> On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 19:27:54 -0500, Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 17:38:43 -0600, CB <country2000@hotmail.com> in
>>alt.abortion with message-id
>><mqj6415ho8ps90qjen1ov7kp7tmuv786gf@4ax.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 18:01:00 -0500, Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 21:39:13 GMT, garysibio@earthlink.net in
>>>>alt.abortion with message-id
>>>><vbc641lsit36vvmd8vd2vlvjai892e3d64@4ax.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On 23 Mar 2005 18:11:53 -0800, stevelionelyoung@hotmail.com (Lionel)
>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Why do we let people be born into lives of pain merely for the sake
>>>>>>of ancient religious dogma?
>>>>>
>>>>>1) Her pain is due to the fact that she is being starved to death.
>>>>
>>>>According to the experts there is no pain.
>>>
>>>
>>>depends on which "experts" you believe.
>>>
>>>lket me guess: cnn, abc, cnn, dan blather.................
>>>
>>
>>From what have heard - medical experts.
>
> There are other medical experts that says she is not PVS.
>
If the "other medical experts" had any real credibility, the courts would
surely have take notice and modified their position by now. As it is,
your "other experts" seem to have about as much credibility as you looney
neocon wingnuts.
> "Life may not be the party we hoped for, but while we are here we might
> as well dance." Author Unknown
>
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On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 21:37:48 -0600, CB <country2000@hotmail.com> in
alt.abortion with message-id
<6r1741hprnhou6lfefatjqjkqr47aj9t9g@4ax.com> wrote:
>On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 19:27:54 -0500, Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 17:38:43 -0600, CB <country2000@hotmail.com> in
>>alt.abortion with message-id
>><mqj6415ho8ps90qjen1ov7kp7tmuv786gf@4ax.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 18:01:00 -0500, Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 21:39:13 GMT, garysibio@earthlink.net in
>>>>alt.abortion with message-id
>>>><vbc641lsit36vvmd8vd2vlvjai892e3d64@4ax.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On 23 Mar 2005 18:11:53 -0800, stevelionelyoung@hotmail.com (Lionel)
>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Why do we let people be born into lives of pain merely for the sake of
>>>>>>ancient religious dogma?
>>>>>
>>>>>1) Her pain is due to the fact that she is being starved to death.
>>>>
>>>>According to the experts there is no pain.
>>>
>>>
>>>depends on which "experts" you believe.
>>>
>>>lket me guess: cnn, abc, cnn, dan blather.................
>>>
>>
>>From what have heard - medical experts.
>
>There are other medical experts that says she is not PVS.
>
For enough money and/or publicity you can find an expert who will say
anything.
The only neutral party in this has been the courts, and they have been
consistent.
On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 21:37:48 -0600, CB <country2000@hotmail.com> in
alt.abortion with message-id
<6r1741hprnhou6lfefatjqjkqr47aj9t9g@4ax.com> wrote:
>On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 19:27:54 -0500, Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 17:38:43 -0600, CB <country2000@hotmail.com> in
>>alt.abortion with message-id
>><mqj6415ho8ps90qjen1ov7kp7tmuv786gf@4ax.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 18:01:00 -0500, Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 21:39:13 GMT, garysibio@earthlink.net in
>>>>alt.abortion with message-id
>>>><vbc641lsit36vvmd8vd2vlvjai892e3d64@4ax.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On 23 Mar 2005 18:11:53 -0800, stevelionelyoung@hotmail.com (Lionel)
>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Why do we let people be born into lives of pain merely for the sake of
>>>>>>ancient religious dogma?
>>>>>
>>>>>1) Her pain is due to the fact that she is being starved to death.
>>>>
>>>>According to the experts there is no pain.
>>>
>>>
>>>depends on which "experts" you believe.
>>>
>>>lket me guess: cnn, abc, cnn, dan blather.................
>>>
>>
>>From what have heard - medical experts.
>
>There are other medical experts that says she is not PVS.
>
For enough money and/or publicity you can find an expert who will say
anything.
The only neutral party in this has been the courts, and they have been
consistent.
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On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 06:06:50 -0500, Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 21:37:48 -0600, CB <country2000@hotmail.com> in
>alt.abortion with message-id
><6r1741hprnhou6lfefatjqjkqr47aj9t9g@4ax.com> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 19:27:54 -0500, Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 17:38:43 -0600, CB <country2000@hotmail.com> in
>>>alt.abortion with message-id
>>><mqj6415ho8ps90qjen1ov7kp7tmuv786gf@4ax.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 18:01:00 -0500, Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 21:39:13 GMT, garysibio@earthlink.net in
>>>>>alt.abortion with message-id
>>>>><vbc641lsit36vvmd8vd2vlvjai892e3d64@4ax.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On 23 Mar 2005 18:11:53 -0800, stevelionelyoung@hotmail.com (Lionel)
>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Why do we let people be born into lives of pain merely for the sake of
>>>>>>>ancient religious dogma?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>1) Her pain is due to the fact that she is being starved to death.
>>>>>
>>>>>According to the experts there is no pain.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>depends on which "experts" you believe.
>>>>
>>>>lket me guess: cnn, abc, cnn, dan blather.................
>>>>
>>>
>>>From what have heard - medical experts.
>>
>>There are other medical experts that says she is not PVS.
>>
>For enough money and/or publicity you can find an expert who will say
>anything.
>
>The only neutral party in this has been the courts, and they have been
>consistent.
Neutral?
The slick willie judges should be in prison for their prejudice toward one
side.
"Life may not be the party we hoped for, but while we are here we might as well dance."
Author Unknown
On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 06:06:50 -0500, Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 21:37:48 -0600, CB <country2000@hotmail.com> in
>alt.abortion with message-id
><6r1741hprnhou6lfefatjqjkqr47aj9t9g@4ax.com> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 19:27:54 -0500, Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 17:38:43 -0600, CB <country2000@hotmail.com> in
>>>alt.abortion with message-id
>>><mqj6415ho8ps90qjen1ov7kp7tmuv786gf@4ax.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 18:01:00 -0500, Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 21:39:13 GMT, garysibio@earthlink.net in
>>>>>alt.abortion with message-id
>>>>><vbc641lsit36vvmd8vd2vlvjai892e3d64@4ax.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On 23 Mar 2005 18:11:53 -0800, stevelionelyoung@hotmail.com (Lionel)
>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Why do we let people be born into lives of pain merely for the sake of
>>>>>>>ancient religious dogma?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>1) Her pain is due to the fact that she is being starved to death.
>>>>>
>>>>>According to the experts there is no pain.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>depends on which "experts" you believe.
>>>>
>>>>lket me guess: cnn, abc, cnn, dan blather.................
>>>>
>>>
>>>From what have heard - medical experts.
>>
>>There are other medical experts that says she is not PVS.
>>
>For enough money and/or publicity you can find an expert who will say
>anything.
>
>The only neutral party in this has been the courts, and they have been
>consistent.
Neutral?
The slick willie judges should be in prison for their prejudice toward one
side.
"Life may not be the party we hoped for, but while we are here we might as well dance."
Author Unknown
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On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 08:17:01 -0600, CB <country2000@hotmail.com> in
alt.abortion with message-id
<r878415if8ca5u8442dib8907c0ngs88f1@4ax.com> wrote:
>>
>>The only neutral party in this has been the courts, and they have been
>>consistent.
>
>Neutral?
>The slick willie judges should be in prison for their prejudice toward one
>side.
>
What makes you think the judge favored one side over the other based
on anything other than the evidence?
Do you have any proof or do you only know what you see on TV?
On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 08:17:01 -0600, CB <country2000@hotmail.com> in
alt.abortion with message-id
<r878415if8ca5u8442dib8907c0ngs88f1@4ax.com> wrote:
>>
>>The only neutral party in this has been the courts, and they have been
>>consistent.
>
>Neutral?
>The slick willie judges should be in prison for their prejudice toward one
>side.
>
What makes you think the judge favored one side over the other based
on anything other than the evidence?
Do you have any proof or do you only know what you see on TV?
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On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 09:37:42 -0500, Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 08:17:01 -0600, CB <country2000@hotmail.com> in
>alt.abortion with message-id
><r878415if8ca5u8442dib8907c0ngs88f1@4ax.com> wrote:
>
>>>
>>>The only neutral party in this has been the courts, and they have been
>>>consistent.
>>
>>Neutral?
>>The slick willie judges should be in prison for their prejudice toward one
>>side.
>>
>
>What makes you think the judge favored one side over the other based
>on anything other than the evidence?
>
>Do you have any proof or do you only know what you see on TV?
I have spent a lot of time reading documents.
I think you are the one that gets your news from dan blather.
"Life may not be the party we hoped for, but while we are here we might as well dance."
Author Unknown
On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 09:37:42 -0500, Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 08:17:01 -0600, CB <country2000@hotmail.com> in
>alt.abortion with message-id
><r878415if8ca5u8442dib8907c0ngs88f1@4ax.com> wrote:
>
>>>
>>>The only neutral party in this has been the courts, and they have been
>>>consistent.
>>
>>Neutral?
>>The slick willie judges should be in prison for their prejudice toward one
>>side.
>>
>
>What makes you think the judge favored one side over the other based
>on anything other than the evidence?
>
>Do you have any proof or do you only know what you see on TV?
I have spent a lot of time reading documents.
I think you are the one that gets your news from dan blather.
"Life may not be the party we hoped for, but while we are here we might as well dance."
Author Unknown
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On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 16:16:14 -0600, CB <country2000@hotmail.com> in
alt.abortion with message-id
<qb3941tnep2qhtjbpklab1qe9910bjms6b@4ax.com> wrote:
>On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 09:37:42 -0500, Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 08:17:01 -0600, CB <country2000@hotmail.com> in
>>alt.abortion with message-id
>><r878415if8ca5u8442dib8907c0ngs88f1@4ax.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>
>>>>The only neutral party in this has been the courts, and they have been
>>>>consistent.
>>>
>>>Neutral?
>>>The slick willie judges should be in prison for their prejudice toward one
>>>side.
>>>
>>
>>What makes you think the judge favored one side over the other based
>>on anything other than the evidence?
>>
>>Do you have any proof or do you only know what you see on TV?
>
>I have spent a lot of time reading documents.
The Cat In The Hat?
>I think you are the one that gets your news from dan blather.
>
I simply defer to the judgment of the only neutral party involved and
a party that has seen all the relevant evidence and information - the
courts.
On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 16:16:14 -0600, CB <country2000@hotmail.com> in
alt.abortion with message-id
<qb3941tnep2qhtjbpklab1qe9910bjms6b@4ax.com> wrote:
>On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 09:37:42 -0500, Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 08:17:01 -0600, CB <country2000@hotmail.com> in
>>alt.abortion with message-id
>><r878415if8ca5u8442dib8907c0ngs88f1@4ax.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>
>>>>The only neutral party in this has been the courts, and they have been
>>>>consistent.
>>>
>>>Neutral?
>>>The slick willie judges should be in prison for their prejudice toward one
>>>side.
>>>
>>
>>What makes you think the judge favored one side over the other based
>>on anything other than the evidence?
>>
>>Do you have any proof or do you only know what you see on TV?
>
>I have spent a lot of time reading documents.
The Cat In The Hat?
>I think you are the one that gets your news from dan blather.
>
I simply defer to the judgment of the only neutral party involved and
a party that has seen all the relevant evidence and information - the
courts.
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On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 08:17:01 -0600, CB <country2000@hotmail.com>
drained his beer, leaned back in the alt.atheism beanbag and drunkenly
proclaimed the following
>Neutral?
>The slick willie judges should be in prison for their prejudice toward one
>side.
Over twenty judges, from the Florida and federal systems have been
involved in this case. They have been apppointed by everyone from
Carter to Clinton.
The latest denial of appeal was made by a Reagan appointee.
--
Douglas E. Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as
when they do it from religious conviction."
Blaise Pascal (1623-1662), Pense'es, #894.
On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 08:17:01 -0600, CB <country2000@hotmail.com>
drained his beer, leaned back in the alt.atheism beanbag and drunkenly
proclaimed the following
>Neutral?
>The slick willie judges should be in prison for their prejudice toward one
>side.
Over twenty judges, from the Florida and federal systems have been
involved in this case. They have been apppointed by everyone from
Carter to Clinton.
The latest denial of appeal was made by a Reagan appointee.
--
Douglas E. Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as
when they do it from religious conviction."
Blaise Pascal (1623-1662), Pense'es, #894.
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On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 18:20:21 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
>On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 08:17:01 -0600, CB <country2000@hotmail.com>
>drained his beer, leaned back in the alt.atheism beanbag and drunkenly
>proclaimed the following
>
>>Neutral?
>>The slick willie judges should be in prison for their prejudice toward one
>>side.
>
>Over twenty judges, from the Florida and federal systems have been
>involved in this case. They have been apppointed by everyone from
>Carter to Clinton.
>
>The latest denial of appeal was made by a Reagan appointee.
All of the judges were prejudiced toward one side. The side of the
law!.
Thumper
To reply drop XYZ in address
On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 18:20:21 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
>On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 08:17:01 -0600, CB <country2000@hotmail.com>
>drained his beer, leaned back in the alt.atheism beanbag and drunkenly
>proclaimed the following
>
>>Neutral?
>>The slick willie judges should be in prison for their prejudice toward one
>>side.
>
>Over twenty judges, from the Florida and federal systems have been
>involved in this case. They have been apppointed by everyone from
>Carter to Clinton.
>
>The latest denial of appeal was made by a Reagan appointee.
All of the judges were prejudiced toward one side. The side of the
law!.
Thumper
To reply drop XYZ in address
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On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 17:37:12 -0500, Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 16:16:14 -0600, CB <country2000@hotmail.com> in
>alt.abortion with message-id
><qb3941tnep2qhtjbpklab1qe9910bjms6b@4ax.com> wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 09:37:42 -0500, Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>>
>>>On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 08:17:01 -0600, CB <country2000@hotmail.com> in
>>>alt.abortion with message-id
>>><r878415if8ca5u8442dib8907c0ngs88f1@4ax.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>The only neutral party in this has been the courts, and they have been
>>>>>consistent.
>>>>
>>>>Neutral?
>>>>The slick willie judges should be in prison for their prejudice toward one
>>>>side.
>>>>
>>>
>>>What makes you think the judge favored one side over the other based
>>>on anything other than the evidence?
>>>
>>>Do you have any proof or do you only know what you see on TV?
>>
>>I have spent a lot of time reading documents.
>
>The Cat In The Hat?
>
>>I think you are the one that gets your news from dan blather.
>>
>
>I simply defer to the judgment of the only neutral party involved and
>a party that has seen all the relevant evidence and information - the
>courts.
The courts are neutral?
You gotta be kiddin'!!
"Life may not be the party we hoped for, but while we are here we might as well dance."
Author Unknown
On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 17:37:12 -0500, Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 16:16:14 -0600, CB <country2000@hotmail.com> in
>alt.abortion with message-id
><qb3941tnep2qhtjbpklab1qe9910bjms6b@4ax.com> wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 09:37:42 -0500, Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>>
>>>On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 08:17:01 -0600, CB <country2000@hotmail.com> in
>>>alt.abortion with message-id
>>><r878415if8ca5u8442dib8907c0ngs88f1@4ax.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>The only neutral party in this has been the courts, and they have been
>>>>>consistent.
>>>>
>>>>Neutral?
>>>>The slick willie judges should be in prison for their prejudice toward one
>>>>side.
>>>>
>>>
>>>What makes you think the judge favored one side over the other based
>>>on anything other than the evidence?
>>>
>>>Do you have any proof or do you only know what you see on TV?
>>
>>I have spent a lot of time reading documents.
>
>The Cat In The Hat?
>
>>I think you are the one that gets your news from dan blather.
>>
>
>I simply defer to the judgment of the only neutral party involved and
>a party that has seen all the relevant evidence and information - the
>courts.
The courts are neutral?
You gotta be kiddin'!!
"Life may not be the party we hoped for, but while we are here we might as well dance."
Author Unknown
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On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 22:47:07 -0600, CB <country2000@hotmail.com>
wrote:
>The courts are neutral?
>You gotta be kiddin'!!
The courts have been remarkably consistent on
this matter, in spite of the fact that the judges
involved are from all over the map in terms of
their appointments (eg., some appointed by Bush Sr,
some by Reagan, some by Clinton, etc.)
rafe b.
http://www.terrapinphoto.com
On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 22:47:07 -0600, CB <country2000@hotmail.com>
wrote:
>The courts are neutral?
>You gotta be kiddin'!!
The courts have been remarkably consistent on
this matter, in spite of the fact that the judges
involved are from all over the map in terms of
their appointments (eg., some appointed by Bush Sr,
some by Reagan, some by Clinton, etc.)
rafe b.
http://www.terrapinphoto.com
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On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 17:14:55 -0500, rafeb <rafe@nowhere.com> wrote:
>
>If you can't see the difference in
>truthfulness between religions dogma
>and the law of gravity... I guess you
>got the Preznit you deserve.
There is no difference between religious truth and any other kind.
Religious truth may be beyond our understanding but it is still
subject to reason.
Gary J Sibio
garysibio@earthlink.net
http://home.earthlink.net/~garysibio/
There are 10 types of people: those who understand binary numbers and those who don't.
On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 17:14:55 -0500, rafeb <rafe@nowhere.com> wrote:
>
>If you can't see the difference in
>truthfulness between religions dogma
>and the law of gravity... I guess you
>got the Preznit you deserve.
There is no difference between religious truth and any other kind.
Religious truth may be beyond our understanding but it is still
subject to reason.
Gary J Sibio
garysibio@earthlink.net
http://home.earthlink.net/~garysibio/
There are 10 types of people: those who understand binary numbers and those who don't.
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On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 18:01:00 -0500, Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>
>According to the experts there is no pain.
And I suppose they know this because they have starved themselves to
death.
>>
>Oh come now. The Law of Gravity is consistent, measurable, and
>provable. None of that is true about any part of any religion.
>
>Prove any religious dogma correct.
A statement is either true or false regardless of our ability to prove
it. If I say there is a God, I may be right or I may be wrong,
regardless of whether I can prove there is a God or not.
My contention was that the age of a belief does not make it false.
BTW, you made a statement above about starvation being painless
without offering any proofs other than the say-so of a couple of
"experts" who are trying to justify their actions.
Gary J Sibio
garysibio@earthlink.net
http://home.earthlink.net/~garysibio/
There are 10 types of people: those who understand binary numbers and those who don't.
On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 18:01:00 -0500, Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>
>According to the experts there is no pain.
And I suppose they know this because they have starved themselves to
death.
>>
>Oh come now. The Law of Gravity is consistent, measurable, and
>provable. None of that is true about any part of any religion.
>
>Prove any religious dogma correct.
A statement is either true or false regardless of our ability to prove
it. If I say there is a God, I may be right or I may be wrong,
regardless of whether I can prove there is a God or not.
My contention was that the age of a belief does not make it false.
BTW, you made a statement above about starvation being painless
without offering any proofs other than the say-so of a couple of
"experts" who are trying to justify their actions.
Gary J Sibio
garysibio@earthlink.net
http://home.earthlink.net/~garysibio/
There are 10 types of people: those who understand binary numbers and those who don't.
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On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 04:10:37 GMT, garysibio@earthlink.net wrote:
>There is no difference between religious truth and any other kind.
>Religious truth may be beyond our understanding but it is still
>subject to reason.
Reason and religion don't go together,
unless you're a Unitarian, which clearly
you're not.
rafe b.
http://www.terrapinphoto.com
On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 04:10:37 GMT, garysibio@earthlink.net wrote:
>There is no difference between religious truth and any other kind.
>Religious truth may be beyond our understanding but it is still
>subject to reason.
Reason and religion don't go together,
unless you're a Unitarian, which clearly
you're not.
rafe b.
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On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 04:10:38 GMT, garysibio@earthlink.net wrote:
>A statement is either true or false regardless of our ability to prove
>it. If I say there is a God, I may be right or I may be wrong,
>regardless of whether I can prove there is a God or not.
Truth or falsehood are not concepts that
exist in a vacuum, without context. They
exist because the distinctions between them
are necessary for survival.
Any statement or concept that is neither
provably false nor provably true is irrelevant
to survival. This indeed is the domain of
religion and faith.
rafe b.
http://www.terrapinphoto.com
On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 04:10:38 GMT, garysibio@earthlink.net wrote:
>A statement is either true or false regardless of our ability to prove
>it. If I say there is a God, I may be right or I may be wrong,
>regardless of whether I can prove there is a God or not.
Truth or falsehood are not concepts that
exist in a vacuum, without context. They
exist because the distinctions between them
are necessary for survival.
Any statement or concept that is neither
provably false nor provably true is irrelevant
to survival. This indeed is the domain of
religion and faith.
rafe b.
http://www.terrapinphoto.com
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On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 01:22:14 GMT, tnguymNoSpamm@yaho.com
(TheNewsGuy(Mike)) wrote:
>On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 19:27:54 -0500, Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>
>
>Hey, the Pope is looking a bit weak. When he "goes" why not put his
>body on forced artificial feeding and keep him "alive" ... ... :-)
Because he can eat on his own.
Gary J Sibio
garysibio@earthlink.net
http://home.earthlink.net/~garysibio/
There are 10 types of people: those who understand binary numbers and those who don't.
On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 01:22:14 GMT, tnguymNoSpamm@yaho.com
(TheNewsGuy(Mike)) wrote:
>On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 19:27:54 -0500, Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>
>
>Hey, the Pope is looking a bit weak. When he "goes" why not put his
>body on forced artificial feeding and keep him "alive" ... ... :-)
Because he can eat on his own.
Gary J Sibio
garysibio@earthlink.net
http://home.earthlink.net/~garysibio/
There are 10 types of people: those who understand binary numbers and those who don't.
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On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 19:56:00 -0500, Thumper <jaylsmithXYZ@comcast.net>
wrote:
>On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 21:39:13 GMT, garysibio@earthlink.net wrote:
>
>>On 23 Mar 2005 18:11:53 -0800, stevelionelyoung@hotmail.com (Lionel)
>>wrote:
>>
>>>Why do we let people be born into lives of pain merely for the sake of
>>>ancient religious dogma?
>>
>>1) Her pain is due to the fact that she is being starved to death.
>>
>
>Stop making things up.
>thumper
That comback must have laid you up for the rest of the week.
Gary J Sibio
garysibio@earthlink.net
http://home.earthlink.net/~garysibio/
There are 10 types of people: those who understand binary numbers and those who don't.
On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 19:56:00 -0500, Thumper <jaylsmithXYZ@comcast.net>
wrote:
>On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 21:39:13 GMT, garysibio@earthlink.net wrote:
>
>>On 23 Mar 2005 18:11:53 -0800, stevelionelyoung@hotmail.com (Lionel)
>>wrote:
>>
>>>Why do we let people be born into lives of pain merely for the sake of
>>>ancient religious dogma?
>>
>>1) Her pain is due to the fact that she is being starved to death.
>>
>
>Stop making things up.
>thumper
That comback must have laid you up for the rest of the week.
Gary J Sibio
garysibio@earthlink.net
http://home.earthlink.net/~garysibio/
There are 10 types of people: those who understand binary numbers and those who don't.
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On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 19:29:03 -0500, "Michelle Malkin"
<hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:
>
><garysibio@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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>> On 23 Mar 2005 18:11:53 -0800, stevelionelyoung@hotmail.com (Lionel)
>> wrote:
>>
>> >Why do we let people be born into lives of pain merely for the sake of
>> >ancient religious dogma?
>>
>> 1) Her pain is due to the fact that she is being starved to death.
>
>No one is home to experience the pain. There is only a non-aware
>body with a live nervous system.
If the nervous system is active, then she can feel pain. Pain
receptors are part of the nervous system.
Gary J Sibio
garysibio@earthlink.net
http://home.earthlink.net/~garysibio/
There are 10 types of people: those who understand binary numbers and those who don't.
On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 19:29:03 -0500, "Michelle Malkin"
<hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:
>
><garysibio@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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>> On 23 Mar 2005 18:11:53 -0800, stevelionelyoung@hotmail.com (Lionel)
>> wrote:
>>
>> >Why do we let people be born into lives of pain merely for the sake of
>> >ancient religious dogma?
>>
>> 1) Her pain is due to the fact that she is being starved to death.
>
>No one is home to experience the pain. There is only a non-aware
>body with a live nervous system.
If the nervous system is active, then she can feel pain. Pain
receptors are part of the nervous system.
Gary J Sibio
garysibio@earthlink.net
http://home.earthlink.net/~garysibio/
There are 10 types of people: those who understand binary numbers and those who don't.
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On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 04:10:46 GMT, garysibio@earthlink.net wrote:
>If the nervous system is active, then she can feel pain. Pain
>receptors are part of the nervous system.
Sensation of pain requires consciousness, which
Ms. Schiavo lacks. Strike Two.
rafe b.
http://www.terrapinphoto.com
On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 04:10:46 GMT, garysibio@earthlink.net wrote:
>If the nervous system is active, then she can feel pain. Pain
>receptors are part of the nervous system.
Sensation of pain requires consciousness, which
Ms. Schiavo lacks. Strike Two.
rafe b.
http://www.terrapinphoto.com
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garysibio@earthlink.net wrote in
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> On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 17:14:55 -0500, rafeb <rafe@nowhere.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>If you can't see the difference in
>>truthfulness between religions dogma
>>and the law of gravity... I guess you got the Preznit you deserve.
>
> There is no difference between religious truth and any other kind.
> Religious truth may be beyond our understanding but it is still
> subject to reason.
>
"religious truth" is an oxymoron.
>
>
> Gary J Sibio
> garysibio@earthlink.net
> http://home.earthlink.net/~garysibio/
>
> There are 10 types of people: those who understand binary numbers and
> those who don't.
garysibio@earthlink.net wrote in
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> On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 17:14:55 -0500, rafeb <rafe@nowhere.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>If you can't see the difference in
>>truthfulness between religions dogma
>>and the law of gravity... I guess you got the Preznit you deserve.
>
> There is no difference between religious truth and any other kind.
> Religious truth may be beyond our understanding but it is still
> subject to reason.
>
"religious truth" is an oxymoron.
>
>
> Gary J Sibio
> garysibio@earthlink.net
> http://home.earthlink.net/~garysibio/
>
> There are 10 types of people: those who understand binary numbers and
> those who don't.
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garysibio@earthlink.net wrote:
> On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 01:22:14 GMT, tnguymNoSpamm@yaho.com
> (TheNewsGuy(Mike)) wrote:
>
>
>>On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 19:27:54 -0500, Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>>
>>
>>Hey, the Pope is looking a bit weak. When he "goes" why not put his
>>body on forced artificial feeding and keep him "alive" ... ... :-)
>
>
> Because he can eat on his own.
>
>
you must read things very quickly the first time
--
Sam
garysibio@earthlink.net wrote:
> On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 01:22:14 GMT, tnguymNoSpamm@yaho.com
> (TheNewsGuy(Mike)) wrote:
>
>
>>On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 19:27:54 -0500, Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>>
>>
>>Hey, the Pope is looking a bit weak. When he "goes" why not put his
>>body on forced artificial feeding and keep him "alive" ... ... :-)
>
>
> Because he can eat on his own.
>
>
you must read things very quickly the first time
--
Sam
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garysibio@earthlink.net wrote:
> On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 19:29:03 -0500, "Michelle Malkin"
> <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>><garysibio@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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>>
>>>On 23 Mar 2005 18:11:53 -0800, stevelionelyoung@hotmail.com (Lionel)
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Why do we let people be born into lives of pain merely for the sake of
>>>>ancient religious dogma?
>>>
>>>1) Her pain is due to the fact that she is being starved to death.
>>
>>No one is home to experience the pain. There is only a non-aware
>>body with a live nervous system.
>
>
> If the nervous system is active, then she can feel pain. Pain
> receptors are part of the nervous system.
>
>
>
but without a brain to process them there is no cognition, only
involuntary reflex at the most
--
Sam
garysibio@earthlink.net wrote:
> On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 19:29:03 -0500, "Michelle Malkin"
> <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>><garysibio@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>>news:vbc641lsit36vvmd8vd2vlvjai892e3d64@4ax.com...
>>
>>>On 23 Mar 2005 18:11:53 -0800, stevelionelyoung@hotmail.com (Lionel)
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Why do we let people be born into lives of pain merely for the sake of
>>>>ancient religious dogma?
>>>
>>>1) Her pain is due to the fact that she is being starved to death.
>>
>>No one is home to experience the pain. There is only a non-aware
>>body with a live nervous system.
>
>
> If the nervous system is active, then she can feel pain. Pain
> receptors are part of the nervous system.
>
>
>
but without a brain to process them there is no cognition, only
involuntary reflex at the most
--
Sam
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On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 00:20:51 -0500, rafe bustin <rafeb@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 22:47:07 -0600, CB <country2000@hotmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>
>>The courts are neutral?
>>You gotta be kiddin'!!
>
>
>The courts have been remarkably consistent on
>this matter,
Consistently trying to kill Terri.
>in spite of the fact that the judges
>involved are from all over the map in terms of
>their appointments (eg., some appointed by Bush Sr,
>some by Reagan, some by Clinton, etc.)
They are consistent in "watching out for their own", judge greer.
don't you know that greer is some kind of god?
They know better than to go against their god.
>
>
>rafe b.
"Life may not be the party we hoped for, but while we are here we might as well dance."
Author Unknown
On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 00:20:51 -0500, rafe bustin <rafeb@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 22:47:07 -0600, CB <country2000@hotmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>
>>The courts are neutral?
>>You gotta be kiddin'!!
>
>
>The courts have been remarkably consistent on
>this matter,
Consistently trying to kill Terri.
>in spite of the fact that the judges
>involved are from all over the map in terms of
>their appointments (eg., some appointed by Bush Sr,
>some by Reagan, some by Clinton, etc.)
They are consistent in "watching out for their own", judge greer.
don't you know that greer is some kind of god?
They know better than to go against their god.
>
>
>rafe b.
"Life may not be the party we hoped for, but while we are here we might as well dance."
Author Unknown
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On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 04:28:22 GMT, Sam <srcarruth@yahoo.NO.SPAM.com> wrote:
>
>
>garysibio@earthlink.net wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 19:29:03 -0500, "Michelle Malkin"
>> <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>><garysibio@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>>>news:vbc641lsit36vvmd8vd2vlvjai892e3d64@4ax.com...
>>>
>>>>On 23 Mar 2005 18:11:53 -0800, stevelionelyoung@hotmail.com (Lionel)
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Why do we let people be born into lives of pain merely for the sake of
>>>>>ancient religious dogma?
>>>>
>>>>1) Her pain is due to the fact that she is being starved to death.
>>>
>>>No one is home to experience the pain. There is only a non-aware
>>>body with a live nervous system.
>>
>>
>> If the nervous system is active, then she can feel pain. Pain
>> receptors are part of the nervous system.
>>
>>
>>
>
>but without a brain to process them there is no cognition, only
>involuntary reflex at the most
Her brain is not completely gone.
"Life may not be the party we hoped for, but while we are here we might as well dance."
Author Unknown
On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 04:28:22 GMT, Sam <srcarruth@yahoo.NO.SPAM.com> wrote:
>
>
>garysibio@earthlink.net wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 19:29:03 -0500, "Michelle Malkin"
>> <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>><garysibio@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>>>news:vbc641lsit36vvmd8vd2vlvjai892e3d64@4ax.com...
>>>
>>>>On 23 Mar 2005 18:11:53 -0800, stevelionelyoung@hotmail.com (Lionel)
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Why do we let people be born into lives of pain merely for the sake of
>>>>>ancient religious dogma?
>>>>
>>>>1) Her pain is due to the fact that she is being starved to death.
>>>
>>>No one is home to experience the pain. There is only a non-aware
>>>body with a live nervous system.
>>
>>
>> If the nervous system is active, then she can feel pain. Pain
>> receptors are part of the nervous system.
>>
>>
>>
>
>but without a brain to process them there is no cognition, only
>involuntary reflex at the most
Her brain is not completely gone.
"Life may not be the party we hoped for, but while we are here we might as well dance."
Author Unknown
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On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 23:41:29 -0500, rafe bustin <rafeb@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 04:10:46 GMT, garysibio@earthlink.net wrote:
>
>
>>If the nervous system is active, then she can feel pain. Pain
>>receptors are part of the nervous system.
>
>
>Sensation of pain requires consciousness, which
>Ms. Schiavo lacks.
Where did you learn that?
"Life may not be the party we hoped for, but while we are here we might as well dance."
Author Unknown
On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 23:41:29 -0500, rafe bustin <rafeb@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 04:10:46 GMT, garysibio@earthlink.net wrote:
>
>
>>If the nervous system is active, then she can feel pain. Pain
>>receptors are part of the nervous system.
>
>
>Sensation of pain requires consciousness, which
>Ms. Schiavo lacks.
Where did you learn that?
"Life may not be the party we hoped for, but while we are here we might as well dance."
Author Unknown
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On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 22:47:07 -0600, CB <country2000@hotmail.com> in
alt.abortion with message-id
<g9q941tmf0ptc3p3h9fg5f8j0g4eg6plg7@4ax.com> wrote:
>On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 17:37:12 -0500, Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 16:16:14 -0600, CB <country2000@hotmail.com> in
>>alt.abortion with message-id
>><qb3941tnep2qhtjbpklab1qe9910bjms6b@4ax.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 09:37:42 -0500, Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 08:17:01 -0600, CB <country2000@hotmail.com> in
>>>>alt.abortion with message-id
>>>><r878415if8ca5u8442dib8907c0ngs88f1@4ax.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The only neutral party in this has been the courts, and they have been
>>>>>>consistent.
>>>>>
>>>>>Neutral?
>>>>>The slick willie judges should be in prison for their prejudice toward one
>>>>>side.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>What makes you think the judge favored one side over the other based
>>>>on anything other than the evidence?
>>>>
>>>>Do you have any proof or do you only know what you see on TV?
>>>
>>>I have spent a lot of time reading documents.
>>
>>The Cat In The Hat?
>>
>>>I think you are the one that gets your news from dan blather.
>>>
>>
>>I simply defer to the judgment of the only neutral party involved and
>>a party that has seen all the relevant evidence and information - the
>>courts.
>
>The courts are neutral?
>You gotta be kiddin'!!
>
A lot more neutral than the other parties involved. They look at the
facts and not emotion or religion, neither of which has any place
here.
On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 22:47:07 -0600, CB <country2000@hotmail.com> in
alt.abortion with message-id
<g9q941tmf0ptc3p3h9fg5f8j0g4eg6plg7@4ax.com> wrote:
>On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 17:37:12 -0500, Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 16:16:14 -0600, CB <country2000@hotmail.com> in
>>alt.abortion with message-id
>><qb3941tnep2qhtjbpklab1qe9910bjms6b@4ax.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 09:37:42 -0500, Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 08:17:01 -0600, CB <country2000@hotmail.com> in
>>>>alt.abortion with message-id
>>>><r878415if8ca5u8442dib8907c0ngs88f1@4ax.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The only neutral party in this has been the courts, and they have been
>>>>>>consistent.
>>>>>
>>>>>Neutral?
>>>>>The slick willie judges should be in prison for their prejudice toward one
>>>>>side.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>What makes you think the judge favored one side over the other based
>>>>on anything other than the evidence?
>>>>
>>>>Do you have any proof or do you only know what you see on TV?
>>>
>>>I have spent a lot of time reading documents.
>>
>>The Cat In The Hat?
>>
>>>I think you are the one that gets your news from dan blather.
>>>
>>
>>I simply defer to the judgment of the only neutral party involved and
>>a party that has seen all the relevant evidence and information - the
>>courts.
>
>The courts are neutral?
>You gotta be kiddin'!!
>
A lot more neutral than the other parties involved. They look at the
facts and not emotion or religion, neither of which has any place
here.
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On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 05:33:15 -0600, CB <country2000@hotmail.com> in
alt.abortion with message-id
<6rha4156p9h2cfpflehekdjvstkoddoljd@4ax.com> wrote:
>On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 00:20:51 -0500, rafe bustin <rafeb@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 22:47:07 -0600, CB <country2000@hotmail.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>
>>>The courts are neutral?
>>>You gotta be kiddin'!!
>>
>>
>>The courts have been remarkably consistent on
>>this matter,
>
>Consistently trying to kill Terri.
Consistent in their interpretation of the facts. How do you know what
she would want if she was able to want anything?
>
>
>>in spite of the fact that the judges
>>involved are from all over the map in terms of
>>their appointments (eg., some appointed by Bush Sr,
>>some by Reagan, some by Clinton, etc.)
>
>They are consistent in "watching out for their own", judge greer.
>don't you know that greer is some kind of god?
>They know better than to go against their god.
That is ridiculous.
On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 05:33:15 -0600, CB <country2000@hotmail.com> in
alt.abortion with message-id
<6rha4156p9h2cfpflehekdjvstkoddoljd@4ax.com> wrote:
>On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 00:20:51 -0500, rafe bustin <rafeb@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 22:47:07 -0600, CB <country2000@hotmail.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>
>>>The courts are neutral?
>>>You gotta be kiddin'!!
>>
>>
>>The courts have been remarkably consistent on
>>this matter,
>
>Consistently trying to kill Terri.
Consistent in their interpretation of the facts. How do you know what
she would want if she was able to want anything?
>
>
>>in spite of the fact that the judges
>>involved are from all over the map in terms of
>>their appointments (eg., some appointed by Bush Sr,
>>some by Reagan, some by Clinton, etc.)
>
>They are consistent in "watching out for their own", judge greer.
>don't you know that greer is some kind of god?
>They know better than to go against their god.
That is ridiculous.
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On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 04:10:38 GMT, garysibio@earthlink.net in
alt.abortion with message-id
<0jm9415qo0ljnspv3se1jip8lv3td4lgp1@4ax.com> wrote:
>On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 18:01:00 -0500, Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>
>>
>>According to the experts there is no pain.
>
>And I suppose they know this because they have starved themselves to
>death.
They probably know more about the facts involved than you do. Have
you studied this area? Are you a doctor?
>
>>>
>>Oh come now. The Law of Gravity is consistent, measurable, and
>>provable. None of that is true about any part of any religion.
>>
>>Prove any religious dogma correct.
>
>A statement is either true or false regardless of our ability to prove
>it. If I say there is a God, I may be right or I may be wrong,
>regardless of whether I can prove there is a God or not.
True, but without proof does it matter? I can say there are nine
planets in the Rigel system but without proof what does the statement
matter?
>
>My contention was that the age of a belief does not make it false.
Nor does it make it true.
>
>BTW, you made a statement above about starvation being painless
>without offering any proofs other than the say-so of a couple of
>"experts" who are trying to justify their actions.
>
What actions? They offered an informed opinion. People do that.
On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 04:10:38 GMT, garysibio@earthlink.net in
alt.abortion with message-id
<0jm9415qo0ljnspv3se1jip8lv3td4lgp1@4ax.com> wrote:
>On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 18:01:00 -0500, Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>
>>
>>According to the experts there is no pain.
>
>And I suppose they know this because they have starved themselves to
>death.
They probably know more about the facts involved than you do. Have
you studied this area? Are you a doctor?
>
>>>
>>Oh come now. The Law of Gravity is consistent, measurable, and
>>provable. None of that is true about any part of any religion.
>>
>>Prove any religious dogma correct.
>
>A statement is either true or false regardless of our ability to prove
>it. If I say there is a God, I may be right or I may be wrong,
>regardless of whether I can prove there is a God or not.
True, but without proof does it matter? I can say there are nine
planets in the Rigel system but without proof what does the statement
matter?
>
>My contention was that the age of a belief does not make it false.
Nor does it make it true.
>
>BTW, you made a statement above about starvation being painless
>without offering any proofs other than the say-so of a couple of
>"experts" who are trying to justify their actions.
>
What actions? They offered an informed opinion. People do that.
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On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 04:10:46 GMT, garysibio@earthlink.net in
alt.abortion with message-id
<uvm9411mu4g2ctnrnvkpoad8o95bq0q4t5@4ax.com> wrote:
>On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 19:29:03 -0500, "Michelle Malkin"
><hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>
>><garysibio@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>>news:vbc641lsit36vvmd8vd2vlvjai892e3d64@4ax.com...
>>> On 23 Mar 2005 18:11:53 -0800, stevelionelyoung@hotmail.com (Lionel)
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> >Why do we let people be born into lives of pain merely for the sake of
>>> >ancient religious dogma?
>>>
>>> 1) Her pain is due to the fact that she is being starved to death.
>>
>>No one is home to experience the pain. There is only a non-aware
>>body with a live nervous system.
>
>If the nervous system is active, then she can feel pain. Pain
>receptors are part of the nervous system.
>
It is a provable fact that there is a medical condition where people
can walk around, function in society, and are otherwise normal yet
cannot feel any pain. This, of course, is very dangerous for the
individual involved.
The existence of a nervous system is not in and of itself proof pain
can be felt.
On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 04:10:46 GMT, garysibio@earthlink.net in
alt.abortion with message-id
<uvm9411mu4g2ctnrnvkpoad8o95bq0q4t5@4ax.com> wrote:
>On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 19:29:03 -0500, "Michelle Malkin"
><hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>
>><garysibio@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>>news:vbc641lsit36vvmd8vd2vlvjai892e3d64@4ax.com...
>>> On 23 Mar 2005 18:11:53 -0800, stevelionelyoung@hotmail.com (Lionel)
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> >Why do we let people be born into lives of pain merely for the sake of
>>> >ancient religious dogma?
>>>
>>> 1) Her pain is due to the fact that she is being starved to death.
>>
>>No one is home to experience the pain. There is only a non-aware
>>body with a live nervous system.
>
>If the nervous system is active, then she can feel pain. Pain
>receptors are part of the nervous system.
>
It is a provable fact that there is a medical condition where people
can walk around, function in society, and are otherwise normal yet
cannot feel any pain. This, of course, is very dangerous for the
individual involved.
The existence of a nervous system is not in and of itself proof pain
can be felt.
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On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 05:35:31 -0600, CB <country2000@hotmail.com>
wrote:
>On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 23:41:29 -0500, rafe bustin <rafeb@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 04:10:46 GMT, garysibio@earthlink.net wrote:
>>
>>
>>>If the nervous system is active, then she can feel pain. Pain
>>>receptors are part of the nervous system.
>>
>>
>>Sensation of pain requires consciousness, which
>>Ms. Schiavo lacks.
>
>Where did you learn that?
From the school of hard knocks.
--
MsAnthrope
http://web.newsguy.com/rubyred
On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 05:35:31 -0600, CB <country2000@hotmail.com>
wrote:
>On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 23:41:29 -0500, rafe bustin <rafeb@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 04:10:46 GMT, garysibio@earthlink.net wrote:
>>
>>
>>>If the nervous system is active, then she can feel pain. Pain
>>>receptors are part of the nervous system.
>>
>>
>>Sensation of pain requires consciousness, which
>>Ms. Schiavo lacks.
>
>Where did you learn that?
From the school of hard knocks.
--
MsAnthrope
http://web.newsguy.com/rubyred
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"Douglas Berry" <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 08:17:01 -0600, CB <country2000@hotmail.com>
> drained his beer, leaned back in the alt.atheism beanbag and drunkenly
> proclaimed the following
>
>>Neutral?
>>The slick willie judges should be in prison for their prejudice toward one
>>side.
>
> Over twenty judges, from the Florida and federal systems have been
> involved in this case. They have been apppointed by everyone from
> Carter to Clinton.
>
> The latest denial of appeal was made by a Reagan appointee.
And?
This about court politics vs. legislature not party politics.
"Douglas Berry" <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 08:17:01 -0600, CB <country2000@hotmail.com>
> drained his beer, leaned back in the alt.atheism beanbag and drunkenly
> proclaimed the following
>
>>Neutral?
>>The slick willie judges should be in prison for their prejudice toward one
>>side.
>
> Over twenty judges, from the Florida and federal systems have been
> involved in this case. They have been apppointed by everyone from
> Carter to Clinton.
>
> The latest denial of appeal was made by a Reagan appointee.
And?
This about court politics vs. legislature not party politics.
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"CB" <country2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 17:37:12 -0500, Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 16:16:14 -0600, CB <country2000@hotmail.com> in
>>alt.abortion with message-id
>><qb3941tnep2qhtjbpklab1qe9910bjms6b@4ax.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 09:37:42 -0500, Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 08:17:01 -0600, CB <country2000@hotmail.com> in
>>>>alt.abortion with message-id
>>>><r878415if8ca5u8442dib8907c0ngs88f1@4ax.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The only neutral party in this has been the courts, and they have been
>>>>>>consistent.
>>>>>
>>>>>Neutral?
>>>>>The slick willie judges should be in prison for their prejudice toward
>>>>>one
>>>>>side.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>What makes you think the judge favored one side over the other based
>>>>on anything other than the evidence?
>>>>
>>>>Do you have any proof or do you only know what you see on TV?
>>>
>>>I have spent a lot of time reading documents.
>>
>>The Cat In The Hat?
>>
>>>I think you are the one that gets your news from dan blather.
>>>
>>
>>I simply defer to the judgment of the only neutral party involved and
>>a party that has seen all the relevant evidence and information - the
>>courts.
>
> The courts are neutral?
> You gotta be kiddin'!!
Of course. Just ask them, especially the 9th circuit of California.
>
>
> "Life may not be the party we hoped for, but while we are here we might as
> well dance."
> Author Unknown
"CB" <country2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 17:37:12 -0500, Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 16:16:14 -0600, CB <country2000@hotmail.com> in
>>alt.abortion with message-id
>><qb3941tnep2qhtjbpklab1qe9910bjms6b@4ax.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 09:37:42 -0500, Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 08:17:01 -0600, CB <country2000@hotmail.com> in
>>>>alt.abortion with message-id
>>>><r878415if8ca5u8442dib8907c0ngs88f1@4ax.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The only neutral party in this has been the courts, and they have been
>>>>>>consistent.
>>>>>
>>>>>Neutral?
>>>>>The slick willie judges should be in prison for their prejudice toward
>>>>>one
>>>>>side.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>What makes you think the judge favored one side over the other based
>>>>on anything other than the evidence?
>>>>
>>>>Do you have any proof or do you only know what you see on TV?
>>>
>>>I have spent a lot of time reading documents.
>>
>>The Cat In The Hat?
>>
>>>I think you are the one that gets your news from dan blather.
>>>
>>
>>I simply defer to the judgment of the only neutral party involved and
>>a party that has seen all the relevant evidence and information - the
>>courts.
>
> The courts are neutral?
> You gotta be kiddin'!!
Of course. Just ask them, especially the 9th circuit of California.
>
>
> "Life may not be the party we hoped for, but while we are here we might as
> well dance."
> Author Unknown
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"rafe bustin" <rafeb@speakeasy.net> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 22:47:07 -0600, CB <country2000@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>>The courts are neutral?
>>You gotta be kiddin'!!
>
>
> The courts have been remarkably consistent on
> this matter, in spite of the fact that the judges
> involved are from all over the map in terms of
> their appointments (eg., some appointed by Bush Sr,
> some by Reagan, some by Clinton, etc.)
This is a fight of judicial vs. legislative / executive.
ALL decisions were made after throwing out contrary testimony ahead of time.
Her husband is not her functional husband and he is nothing but an
adulterous liar.
THAT was never in court.
"rafe bustin" <rafeb@speakeasy.net> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 22:47:07 -0600, CB <country2000@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>>The courts are neutral?
>>You gotta be kiddin'!!
>
>
> The courts have been remarkably consistent on
> this matter, in spite of the fact that the judges
> involved are from all over the map in terms of
> their appointments (eg., some appointed by Bush Sr,
> some by Reagan, some by Clinton, etc.)
This is a fight of judicial vs. legislative / executive.
ALL decisions were made after throwing out contrary testimony ahead of time.
Her husband is not her functional husband and he is nothing but an
adulterous liar.
THAT was never in court.
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On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 05:33:15 -0600, CB <country2000@hotmail.com>
wrote:
>Consistently trying to kill Terri.
On the contrary. It's the parents
and the doctors playing God.
Without that feeding tube she'd have
died fifteen years ago. That's when
her "soul" departed.
rafe b.
http://www.terrapinphoto.com
On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 05:33:15 -0600, CB <country2000@hotmail.com>
wrote:
>Consistently trying to kill Terri.
On the contrary. It's the parents
and the doctors playing God.
Without that feeding tube she'd have
died fifteen years ago. That's when
her "soul" departed.
rafe b.
http://www.terrapinphoto.com
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On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 06:57:58 -0500, Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>It is a provable fact that there is a medical condition where people
>can walk around, function in society, and are otherwise normal yet
>cannot feel any pain.
Sounds like most Republicans I know of.
rafe b.
http://www.terrapinphoto.com
On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 06:57:58 -0500, Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>It is a provable fact that there is a medical condition where people
>can walk around, function in society, and are otherwise normal yet
>cannot feel any pain.
Sounds like most Republicans I know of.
rafe b.
http://www.terrapinphoto.com
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On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 09:06:53 -0600, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
alt.abortion with message-id
<ojua411v5su5arthhu8fl19j62aeraq1l1@4ax.com> wrote:
>On 24 Mar 2005 05:25:09 -0800, chris_h_fleming@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>>duke wrote:
>>> On 23 Mar 2005 18:11:53 -0800, stevelionelyoung@hotmail.com (Lionel)
>>wrote:
>>>
>>> >Why do we let people be born into lives of pain merely for the sake
>>of
>>> >ancient religious dogma?
>>>
>>> Because it's inhumane and wrong for you to decide otherwise.
>
>>Why is it inhumane?
>
>Because you displease God by doing so.
>
Prove any god exists.
On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 09:06:53 -0600, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
alt.abortion with message-id
<ojua411v5su5arthhu8fl19j62aeraq1l1@4ax.com> wrote:
>On 24 Mar 2005 05:25:09 -0800, chris_h_fleming@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>>duke wrote:
>>> On 23 Mar 2005 18:11:53 -0800, stevelionelyoung@hotmail.com (Lionel)
>>wrote:
>>>
>>> >Why do we let people be born into lives of pain merely for the sake
>>of
>>> >ancient religious dogma?
>>>
>>> Because it's inhumane and wrong for you to decide otherwise.
>
>>Why is it inhumane?
>
>Because you displease God by doing so.
>
Prove any god exists.
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On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 07:59:11 -0700, "icono" <icono@cox.net> in
alt.abortion with message-id <TOe1e.4271$Mt5.3789@fed1read01> wrote:
>
>"rafe bustin" <rafeb@speakeasy.net> wrote in message
>news:33s941dhmgbj294ut5ptpv10i5evd263ah@4ax.com...
>> On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 22:47:07 -0600, CB <country2000@hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>The courts are neutral?
>>>You gotta be kiddin'!!
>>
>>
>> The courts have been remarkably consistent on
>> this matter, in spite of the fact that the judges
>> involved are from all over the map in terms of
>> their appointments (eg., some appointed by Bush Sr,
>> some by Reagan, some by Clinton, etc.)
>
>This is a fight of judicial vs. legislative / executive.
>
>ALL decisions were made after throwing out contrary testimony ahead of time.
>
>Her husband is not her functional husband and he is nothing but an
>adulterous liar.
>
>THAT was never in court.
>
Do you really think the courts are ignorant of any detail of the lives
of any of the people involved?
On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 07:59:11 -0700, "icono" <icono@cox.net> in
alt.abortion with message-id <TOe1e.4271$Mt5.3789@fed1read01> wrote:
>
>"rafe bustin" <rafeb@speakeasy.net> wrote in message
>news:33s941dhmgbj294ut5ptpv10i5evd263ah@4ax.com...
>> On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 22:47:07 -0600, CB <country2000@hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>The courts are neutral?
>>>You gotta be kiddin'!!
>>
>>
>> The courts have been remarkably consistent on
>> this matter, in spite of the fact that the judges
>> involved are from all over the map in terms of
>> their appointments (eg., some appointed by Bush Sr,
>> some by Reagan, some by Clinton, etc.)
>
>This is a fight of judicial vs. legislative / executive.
>
>ALL decisions were made after throwing out contrary testimony ahead of time.
>
>Her husband is not her functional husband and he is nothing but an
>adulterous liar.
>
>THAT was never in court.
>
Do you really think the courts are ignorant of any detail of the lives
of any of the people involved?
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