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Need Advice on i5 2500k/GTX560 build

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August 17, 2011 10:50:37 PM

Approximate Purchase Date: Ordering the parts this week.


Budget Range: $800 before rebates, but would prefer to spend about 700 ish

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming

Parts Not Required: Monitor, Mouse, Keyboard

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Newegg

Country of Origin: USA

Parts Preferences: Intel, Nvidia

Overclocking:
In the future YES

SLI or Crossfire: In the future YES

Monitor Resolution: 1920x1080

Additional Comments: Need a well rounded gaming PC that can play all current games.

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Need a build that supports I5 2500K and GTX 460 Fermi 1gb.
I found this set up in New egg for $685, would love to get feedback or upgrades on any parts that would make the computer running better.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?I...

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1x Rosewill FUTURE Gaming ATX Mid Tower Computer Case,come with Four Fans-2x Front Blue LED 120mm Fan,1x Top 120mm Fan,1x Rear 120mm Fan,Support up to 7 Fans (Model:FUTURE)

$69.99

1x ASUS P8P67-M (REV 3.0) LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard (Model:p 8P67-M (REV 3.0))

$129.99

1x ASUS ENGTX560 DCII OC/2DI/1GD5 GeForce GTX 560 (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card (Model:ENGTX560 DCII OC/2DI)

$199.99

1x Antec BP550 Plus 550W Continuous Power ATX12V V2.2 80 PLUS Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply (Model:BP550 Plus)

$64.99

1x Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I52500K (Model:BX80623I52500K)

$219.99

1x Kingston HyperX X2 Grey Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 Desktop Memory Model KHX1600C9D3X2K2/4GX (Model:KHX1600C9D3X2K2/4GX)

$44.99

1x Seagate Barracuda ST3500413AS 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive (Model:ST3500413AS)

$39.99
August 18, 2011 12:00:47 AM

Micro center only ships to their stores and I live in Nebraska (we don't have microcenters).
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August 18, 2011 12:48:25 AM

bumer I am planing on same i-5 560 build and same budget and the only way i can fit is with microcenter
August 18, 2011 12:49:30 AM

also i don't think 550W PSu will be enough
August 18, 2011 12:51:06 AM

also i don't think 550W PSu will be enough
August 18, 2011 1:05:12 AM

You can do better for $800. That combo is missing an optical drive, so add $20 for that. The RAM is 1.65V, which is more than whats recommended for Sandy Bridge, plus it's pretty expensive for a 4GB kit (combo savings aside). That motherboard does SLI at x16/x4 which is not ideal. You can get cheaper cases.....

CPU: Intel Core i5-2500k
Motherboard: MSI P67A-G45 (SLI ready at x8/x8)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
$332.98 ($20 MIR available)

RAM: 4GB G.Skill 1600Mhz C9 1.5V (low profile, cheap, correct voltage for Sandy Bridge)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$32.99

GPU: EVGA GTX 560 Ti (more powerful than the GTX 560)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$239.99 ($25 MIR available)

HDD: 500GB Seagate Barracuda
Optical: Samsung 22x DVD Burner
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
$53.48

PSU: XFX Core Edition PRO650W (Enough power and connections for future SLI)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$89.99 ($10 MIR available)

Case: Rosewill Challenger
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$49.99

Total: $799.42 + $14.75 standard shipping

Don't forget, there's $55 in available rebates...

If that's too much, you can drop the vid card to a GTX 560 (non-Ti) or even an HD 6870.
August 18, 2011 1:08:43 AM

Hate to break it to u but if u plan on overclockin ur cpu(obviously) and gpu and sliing 650 is not enough. need 750
August 18, 2011 2:40:10 AM

madchemist83 said:
Hate to break it to u but if u plan on overclockin ur cpu(obviously) and gpu and sliing 650 is not enough. need 750


Really?

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2011/02/21/msi_n560gtx_t... <--OC'd SLI 560 Tis (965/1930/1090), OC'd i7-920 @ 3.6GHz, 628 watts peak while gaming. Subtract roughly 50 watts for an overclocked i5-2500k and you're looking at around 580 watts. Figure in 80+ Bronze (85% at best) PSU efficiency, and the PSU is outputting approximately 493 watts, well under it's rated 650 watt output.
August 19, 2011 3:19:07 AM

i am pretty sure you suppose to take 85% from your PSU power as a 0.85*650=552 and not from the power your system is demanding. Also PSU will usually go higher under load. Just to be safe I would go for either really good 650W or 700W. Unless u sliing cfing something lower then 560ti. Anandetch reports ASUS 560ti under heavy load 310W so ther goes your PSU. Also yopu don't want to be on the edge
August 19, 2011 3:29:15 AM

nd_hunter said:
You can do better for $800. That combo is missing an optical drive, so add $20 for that. The RAM is 1.65V, which is more than whats recommended for Sandy Bridge, plus it's pretty expensive for a 4GB kit (combo savings aside). That motherboard does SLI at x16/x4 which is not ideal. You can get cheaper cases.....

CPU: Intel Core i5-2500k
Motherboard: MSI P67A-G45 (SLI ready at x8/x8)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
$332.98 ($20 MIR available)

RAM: 4GB G.Skill 1600Mhz C9 1.5V (low profile, cheap, correct voltage for Sandy Bridge)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$32.99

GPU: EVGA GTX 560 Ti (more powerful than the GTX 560)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$239.99 ($25 MIR available)

HDD: 500GB Seagate Barracuda
Optical: Samsung 22x DVD Burner
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
$53.48

PSU: XFX Core Edition PRO650W (Enough power and connections for future SLI)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$89.99 ($10 MIR available)

Case: Rosewill Challenger
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$49.99

Total: $799.42 + $14.75 standard shipping

Don't forget, there's $55 in available rebates...

If that's too much, you can drop the vid card to a GTX 560 (non-Ti) or even an HD 6870.


This build is nice though
i'd drop case for HAF 912
ram 1300 is enough
and get sammy f3 for a little extra
also msi mobos have high fail rate so look into asrock or asus
and lastly you'll need CPU cooler like hyper 212+ or scythe something something (sorry forgot) and that's extra 30

Just like I said it's hard to fit i-5 2500k and 560ti into 800 budget especially for someone looking to spend preferably 700 don't forget taxes and shipping that will put u in 850+ also I'd rather pick parts that have no MIR as they r pain in the @rse.

So with all that said I think we can work some recomendations for u pretty quick :) 
August 19, 2011 4:43:29 AM

madchemist83 said:
i am pretty sure you suppose to take 85% from your PSU power as a 0.85*650=552 and not from the power your system is demanding. Also PSU will usually go higher under load. Just to be safe I would go for either really good 650W or 700W. Unless u sliing cfing something lower then 560ti. Anandetch reports ASUS 560ti under heavy load 310W so ther goes your PSU. Also yopu don't want to be on the edge


Rated output is rated output...that alone has nothing to do with 80+. At 85% efficiency, it means that to output 650 watts to the computer it must take in 747.5 watts from the wall. The rest is lost to heat. That XFX PSU I linked puts out 624 watts on the 12V rail alone (watts=volts*amps). Click the link below for more info.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/80_plus

Plus I didn't suggest an ASUS card, I linked to an EVGA reference card and Anandtech has a system with an overclocked i7-920 and a reference 560 Ti pulling 352 watts loaded under Furmark, 317 watts during Crysis. As we know, Sandy Bridge takes less power than Nehalem.
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/330

You are correct in that you don't want to be on the edge, but I don't think that 150+ watts of headroom is on the edge.
August 19, 2011 4:51:05 AM

madchemist83 said:
This build is nice though
i'd drop case for HAF 912
ram 1300 is enough
and get sammy f3 for a little extra
also msi mobos have high fail rate so look into asrock or asus
and lastly you'll need CPU cooler like hyper 212+ or scythe something something (sorry forgot) and that's extra 30

Just like I said it's hard to fit i-5 2500k and 560ti into 800 budget especially for someone looking to spend preferably 700 don't forget taxes and shipping that will put u in 850+ also I'd rather pick parts that have no MIR as they r pain in the @rse.

So with all that said I think we can work some recomendations for u pretty quick :) 


For the record, I did fit a 2500k and 560 Ti into an $800 budget, shipping and tax not included, however if he lives in a state without a Newegg distribution center, there is no tax. Rebates were not figured into the $799 total and had no bearing on the parts that I picked...they are simply a bonus if you get them back.
August 20, 2011 6:30:17 AM

^ Thanks for clearing this out for me. I am actually looking at getting that combo into 800. And I have microcenter close by(kinda). So you saying I can get system with i-5 2500k 560ti and mobo for future sliing for 800? interesting.
August 20, 2011 6:57:17 AM

My reference shows the overclocked SLI GTX 560ti s pulling, at peak, 400W.

http://forums.atomicmpc.com.au/index.php?showtopic=264
Those are all calculated figures, draw from the PSU not the wall.

The rest of the system, with moderate OC, will stay under 200W. Having said all that I still would want my PSU operating in the 60-70% range when gaming.

My guess for gaming draw matches yours.... somewhere between 450 and 500W, mostly. 70% of 650 is 455. But an 80% draw is still pretty safe, just not ideal.

To toss out another number though, 90% of the people who buy one card intending to add a second later.... never do. It's the speed at which GPUs progress that makes this impractical. :) 

August 20, 2011 12:09:26 PM

I'm doing a very similar build to you and i managed to get my price down to $750. Here's my components.

COOLER MASTER HAF 912 - $55 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

SAPPHIRE 100314-3L Radeon HD 6870 - $175 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Antec EarthWatts EA-650 - $55 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GSKILL Ripjaws X Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) - $32 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus - $28 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Seagate Barracuda + Lg Cd/Dvd combo - $68 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

I5 2500k + Msi P68 - $324 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

BYTECC 6 ft. 18AWG Power Cord - $5 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Exactly $750 Shipped

Hopefully it will help you drop the price a little and get more for your money.
August 20, 2011 7:29:17 PM

Oh yeah? well I did a build ( on the paper) with pretty much same components plus 8Gb RAM HD 6950 and 700W PSU for 800 with shipping and taxes after 50 MIR

so suck on that :) 
August 20, 2011 10:10:51 PM

madchemist83 said:
Oh yeah? well I did a build ( on the paper) with pretty much same components plus 8Gb RAM HD 6950 and 700W PSU for 800 with shipping and taxes after 50 MIR

so suck on that :) 


I Dont do Mail In rebates.
August 20, 2011 10:16:55 PM

^ whatever .. that's what I said 2 weeks ago. You should just go for best performance for your money // and if u can't spend extra 50 bucks on a rig // then just spend 700 or 650/ what's the point? right
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