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August 18, 2011 3:36:52 AM

First of all, I would like to apologize for any mistakes made in this thread, as this is the first I have created. I want to try my hand at building a computer. It needs to be able to run three monitors, nice graphic response, of course and overall speed. Again, I am a beginner, so I have limited knowledge of how the components fit and work together. I would greatly appreciate an opinion on points such as quality, compatibility, cooling, and power. thankyouu

Here are the specifications that I am looking at so far (likely to be purchased through Newegg):

Case: Lian Li PC-Z60B Black Aluminum ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
Motherboard: ASUS SABERTOOTH P67 (REV 3.0) LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
Graphics: EVGA 01G-P3-1561-AR GeForce GTX 560 Ti FPB (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card (X2)
Powersupply: COOLER MAS 600W TER Silent Pro M600 ATX12V V2.3 SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Bronze Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply
Processor: Intel Core i7-2600K Sandy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo Boost) 4 x 256KB L2 Cache 8MB L3 Cache LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor
RAM: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory (X2)
Hard Drive: Western Digital Caviar Black WD1002FAEX 1TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
Optical Drive: ASUS 24X DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM
Wifi Access: ASUS PCE-N13 Wireless Adapter IEEE 802.11b/g/n
Operating System: Win 64bit Pro, SP1

I plan on assembling this system with only a couple phillips heads, a static grounding wrist band, needle nose pliers, and my hands. Are there any other little things that I need such as thermal glue, expansion cards, etc.? Thanks!

Added together, w/o shipping, it comes out to around $1,730

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August 18, 2011 3:49:03 AM

Is this a gaming rig? If so, are you planning on gaming across all three monitors? Do you currently have these? What's your budget? Do you live in the US or is newegg just for reference?

It would be nice if you would edit your post in the format of the link below...
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/261222-31-build-advic...

Also, these two links are good for a how-to guide and a guide to troubleshooting. I highly recommend you read both.
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/274745-31-step-step-g...
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/261145-31-perform-ste...

In the meantime, I think the build below is a little better balanced....

CPU: Core i5-2500k (not sure the hyper-threading of the 2600k will be usefull for you)
Motherboard: Gigabyte Z68XP-UD4 (might as well go with Intel's newest chipset, plus it has Virtu if you do any video encoding)
$409.98 ($20 off with promo code HARDOCPX817D, end 8/23)

CPU Cooler: Coolermaster Hyper 212+ (a must-have for a respectable overclock)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$28.43

RAM: 8GB G.Skill Sniper 1866MHz C9 1.5V (8GB is plenty of memory)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$69.99

GPUs: 2x Sapphire Toxic HD 6950 2GB (better performance than SLi'd 560 Tis, plus the extra VRAM will help with multiple monitors)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$579.98, ($20 MIR available)

Adapter: Sapphire Active Mini Display Port (M) to Single-Link DVI (F) Cable (Must-have for Eyefinity)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$29.99

HDD: 1TB Samsung Spinpoint F3 (Gold standard for price/performance/reliability)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$59.99

Optical: Sony Optiarc DVD Burner
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$19.99

Wifi: ASUS PCE-N13 Wireless Adapter IEEE 802.11b/g/n
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$29.99

PSU: Corsair Professional HX 750 watt (That Coolermaster PSU you listed is junk, plus not powerful enough for your proposed build)
Case: Corsair Obsidian Series 650D
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
$304.98 ($30 MIR available)

OS: Win 7 Home Premium 64-bit (do you need the XP virtualization of Professional)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$94.99

This is sitting in my cart with a total price of $1617.02 shipped.

This system really deserves an SSD...

SSD: 128GB Crucial M4
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$211.99

Updated Total: $1829.01 shipped



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August 18, 2011 3:58:18 AM

Because this is your first build, look at the following threads while you are waiting for your parts.
Build it yourself:
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/274745-13-step-step...

And although this primarily a troubleshooting thread, the first part contains a checklist that will catch most noob mistakes:
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/261145-31-read-postin...

What is the primary purpose of the computer? If it is gaming, you do not need the multi-threaded performance of the 2600K. You can get the 2500K and take 1/3 of the $100 you save and get a CoolerMaster Hiper 212+ cooler.

In fact, the stock cooler will limit your overclocking.
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August 18, 2011 4:14:28 AM

nd_hunter said:
Is this a gaming rig? If so, are you planning on gaming across all three monitors? Do you currently have these? What's your budget? Do you live in the US or is newegg just for reference?

It would be nice if you would edit your post in the format of the link below...
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/261222-31-build-advic...

Also, these two links are good for a how-to guide and a guide to troubleshooting. I highly recommend you read both.
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/274745-31-step-step-g...
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/261145-31-perform-ste...


Not a gaming rig. Some light gaming. Just a fast work/home computer that needs 3 monitors for work. I typically use very heavy internet access with videos, and photos. Want to be able to burn and rip movies/music very quickly. Sub $2000 is great, but I value quality. I do live in US. I will buy the monitors after the PC.
Thanks for the link for formatting, this will be very good for future posts. Also that building guide looks fantastic.
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August 18, 2011 4:19:18 AM

jsc said:
Because this is your first build, look at the following threads while you are waiting for your parts.
Build it yourself:
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/274745-13-step-step...

And although this primarily a troubleshooting thread, the first part contains a checklist that will catch most noob mistakes:
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/261145-31-read-postin...

What is the primary purpose of the computer? If it is gaming, you do not need the multi-threaded performance of the 2600K. You can get the 2500K and take 1/3 of the $100 you save and get a CoolerMaster Hiper 212+ cooler.

In fact, the stock cooler will limit your overclocking.


I have not yet ordered the parts, just wondering about compatibility problems beforehand. The computer is not for gaming(mabye light), but mainly for burning dvds, and responding very quickly for internet access. I am not even thinking about overclocking yet, as this will be my work pc, and needs to be reliable. Are there significant advantages for the 2600k compared to the 2500k? Sorry, im a noob.
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August 18, 2011 4:48:41 AM

Best answer selected by pwange04.
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August 18, 2011 5:02:02 AM

nd_hunter said:
Is this a gaming rig? If so, are you planning on gaming across all three monitors? Do you currently have these? What's your budget? Do you live in the US or is newegg just for reference?

It would be nice if you would edit your post in the format of the link below...
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/261222-31-build-advic...

Also, these two links are good for a how-to guide and a guide to troubleshooting. I highly recommend you read both.
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/274745-31-step-step-g...
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/261145-31-perform-ste...

In the meantime, I think the build below is a little better balanced....

CPU: Core i5-2500k (not sure the hyper-threading of the 2600k will be usefull for you)
Motherboard: Gigabyte Z68XP-UD4 (might as well go with Intel's newest chipset, plus it has Virtu if you do any video encoding)
$409.98 ($20 off with promo code HARDOCPX817D, end 8/23)

CPU Cooler: Coolermaster Hyper 212+ (a must-have for a respectable overclock)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$28.43

RAM: 8GB G.Skill Sniper 1866MHz C9 1.5V (8GB is plenty of memory)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$69.99

GPUs: 2x Sapphire Toxic HD 6950 2GB (better performance than SLi'd 560 Tis, plus the extra VRAM will help with multiple monitors)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$579.98, ($20 MIR available)

Adapter: Sapphire Active Mini Display Port (M) to Single-Link DVI (F) Cable (Must-have for Eyefinity)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$29.99

HDD: 1TB Samsung Spinpoint F3 (Gold standard for price/performance/reliability)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$59.99

Optical: Sony Optiarc DVD Burner
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$19.99

Wifi: ASUS PCE-N13 Wireless Adapter IEEE 802.11b/g/n
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$29.99

PSU: Corsair Professional HX 750 watt (That Coolermaster PSU you listed is junk, plus not powerful enough for your proposed build)
Case: Corsair Obsidian Series 650D
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
$304.98 ($30 MIR available)

OS: Win 7 Home Premium 64-bit (do you need the XP virtualization of Professional)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$94.99

This is sitting in my cart with a total price of $1617.02 shipped.

This system really deserves an SSD...

SSD: 128GB Crucial M4
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$211.99

Updated Total: $1829.01 shipped


Thank you so much for the detailed specs and links. You have found some great deals!
The IT guy at work specified an i7, so I'll probably go with the 2500k. The 2 video cards were also specified by him. Would it be ok to keep these 2 aspects the same? I think I will go with that HD and dvd burner. They look great. I'm probably not going to be overclocking just for reliability's sake.
Do you think that the Gigabyte motherboard you spec'd would be just as good as the Sabertooth I was originally looking at?
An SSD does sound really nice as far as boot times, but how would I integrate one into the system?
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August 18, 2011 5:07:04 AM

pwange04 said:
I have not yet ordered the parts, just wondering about compatibility problems beforehand. The computer is not for gaming(mabye light), but mainly for burning dvds, and responding very quickly for internet access. I am not even thinking about overclocking yet, as this will be my work pc, and needs to be reliable. Are there significant advantages for the 2600k compared to the 2500k? Sorry, im a noob.


No worries. Since this is not for heavy gaming, go ahead and drop one of the Sapphire video cards. Keep the adapter, though, as this is needed for more than 2 monitors. The 2500k is a really good CPU. If you are doing heavy photo/video editing then the 2600k might be worth the extra $100. In that case, you would want to get 2 sets of the memory I linked, for a total of 16GB. The deletion of one of the vid cards will more than make up the $170 difference. You could also go with a less powerful PSU, but that's a great deal when combined with that case.
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August 18, 2011 5:14:23 AM

pwange04 said:
Thank you so much for the detailed specs and links. You have found some great deals!
The IT guy at work specified an i7, so I'll probably go with the 2500k. The 2 video cards were also specified by him. Would it be ok to keep these 2 aspects the same? I think I will go with that HD and dvd burner. They look great. I'm probably not going to be overclocking just for reliability's sake.
Do you think that the Gigabyte motherboard you spec'd would be just as good as the Sabertooth I was originally looking at?
An SSD does sound really nice as far as boot times, but how would I integrate one into the system?


With nVidia, you need two video cards for more than 2 monitors. Not so with AMD. A single HD 6950 will be more than adequate for what you are doing. Since you're not going to overclock, you can drop the Hyper 212+. I think that Gigabyte board is better than the Sabertooth. I think that thermal "armor" is a joke. Plus, why not go with Intel's newest chipset? You will also be able to encode video much faster through Quick Sync. Just do a google search on installing an SSD. There are some things you will need to change once you get Windows 7 installed. I don't have one yet, so sorry that I'm not much help on that.
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August 18, 2011 2:01:14 PM

nd_hunter said:
With nVidia, you need two video cards for more than 2 monitors. Not so with AMD. A single HD 6950 will be more than adequate for what you are doing. Since you're not going to overclock, you can drop the Hyper 212+. I think that Gigabyte board is better than the Sabertooth. I think that thermal "armor" is a joke. Plus, why not go with Intel's newest chipset? You will also be able to encode video much faster through Quick Sync. Just do a google search on installing an SSD. There are some things you will need to change once you get Windows 7 installed. I don't have one yet, so sorry that I'm not much help on that.

Oh, ok. I thought that I heard a intel processor would run more smoothly with a nVidia video card? That Gigabyte board does look nice, but can it still run 2 graphics cards though(just in case)?-It says it has 2 (x16, x8) PCI Express 2.0 x16 slots. Will that x8 slot run a video card?
I was also looking at the corsair 650d case before, but is there enough cooling for my system, compared to the aluminum Lian Li I spec'd.
Thanks again!
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August 18, 2011 4:46:23 PM

pwange04 said:
Oh, ok. I thought that I heard a intel processor would run more smoothly with a nVidia video card? That Gigabyte board does look nice, but can it still run 2 graphics cards though(just in case)?-It says it has 2 (x16, x8) PCI Express 2.0 x16 slots. Will that x8 slot run a video card?
I was also looking at the corsair 650d case before, but is there enough cooling for my system, compared to the aluminum Lian Li I spec'd.
Thanks again!


I've heard people saying that they've heard the same about Intel and nVidia working better than Intel and AMD, but there is nothing that proves that. AMD actually scales better than nVidia in a multiple video card environment. Tom's did an article about SLI and Crossfire on x16/x16 (enabled by NF200) and x8/x8 on P67. They found that while the NF200 chip does add PCI lanes it also adds latency. Therefore the net gain of x16/x16 over x8/x8 is only 1-3%, depending on the GPU and resolution. Long story short, x8/x8 is just fine for two video cards. With AMD, the difference is even less. Take a look at the charts below for proof, paying special attention to the bottom one with the 2560x1600 resolution.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/p67-gaming-3-way-sl...

As far as the cooling performance of the 650D, it's not great, but it's not terrible either. Two great cases for cooling are both by SilverStone...the Raven RV03 and the Fortress FT02. I linked to Amazon because they are cheaper and have free shipping. Newegg charges nearly $30 shipping for each :o  . The charts below tell the (cooling) tale.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4620/silverstone-fortress...

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September 4, 2011 6:35:37 PM

thanks for all the help, she runs beautifully
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