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November 18, 2011 3:48:16 AM

i5-2500K vs Phenom x4 955
ASUS P8H61-M ASUS M5A97
HYPER 212 PLUS Liteon IHAS124
Liteon IHAS124 SAPPHIRE Radeon HD 6870
SAPPHIRE Radeon HD 6870 ripjaws 8gb 1600
corsairs xms 1333 8gb hyper 212 plus
OCZ 700 W PSU OCZ 700 PSU
$616 AFTER Rebates Coolermaster elite 430 case
$592 after rebate
already have case

dont know which route to take mainly using it for surfing,gaming,music
please let me know if i should change some components
budget $600

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November 18, 2011 4:09:05 AM

Ill go with 2500k. If you wanna overclocking that processor that motherboard is not for you. Go with P67 or Z68 .If you don't wan;t to overclock go with that board but, you don't need the 2500k and change it with i5 2400.
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November 18, 2011 4:39:22 AM

Generally speaking the Core i5-2500k is an overall much better CPU than the Phenom II x4 955. There is simply no comparison.

It can give you better gaming performance, however the higher the resolution, the less performance difference there will be from the CPU because most games are dependent on the video card's performance.

See link below for performance differences @ 1680 x 1050 resolution (no other resolutions are benchmarked). At 1920x1200 or 1920x1080 resolution the difference will be smaller. At 2560x1440 or 2560x1600 resolution the difference will be even narrower.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4083/the-sandy-bridge-rev...

If the Core i5-2500k is within your budget then there's no reason not to get it. If you want to save money or spend more money on a video card, then get the Phenom II X4 955. Just be aware that getting the Core i5-2500k can postpone when you think you may want to upgrade your PC simply because the processor is faster.

If you wanna support the little guy, then get the Phenom II.
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November 18, 2011 4:44:24 AM

see the problem is i cant spend more then 600 because i am already streched, if i take that mother board its an extra 40 buck plus another 40 bucks on a new case. i need a motherboard below 100$ or it can be above 100 but has to be micro atx
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November 18, 2011 4:45:52 AM

i live in canada
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November 18, 2011 6:59:01 AM

I would say 955, its cheaper and it will do everything you want it to do, since your not doing anything too hardcore. i5-2500k is much better, but to tell the truth, I have used both (for casual gaming, web browsing, and music) and didnt really notice a difference. Just what I would do :) 
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November 18, 2011 11:53:04 AM

Gigabyte GA-880GMA-USB3 AM3+ SATA 6Gb/s USB 3: $117 before $10 rebate

AMD Phenom II X2 555 Black Edition Callisto 3.2GHz w/ Corsair TX650 PSU: $193 before $15 rebate

Crucial 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3 1333: $38

$348 before $25 rebates = $323

Makes things really interesting for your video card. In Canada, Radeon HD 6950 1GB graphics are around $250 before rebates. This Sapphire Radeon HD 6950 2GB is $292 before a $20 rebate and looks like it will unlock ...

$323 + $272 = $595


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November 18, 2011 1:29:10 PM

hahahahahahaha dont make me laugh i5 2500k can rip Phenom II X4 955
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November 18, 2011 2:03:28 PM

Jaguarskx made some of the only intelligent remarks up there.
No one is suggesting for a moment that a 955BE performs anywhere near a 2500K...BUT...a miserable little Athlon II X2 260 can play just about any game out there (and I can't name any it simply cannot). What that should tell you is that your focus need not be on the CPU, particularly if you want to be sure your other parts are decent and will last.
Take a hard look at an i3-2100 or -2120. It tends to perform similarly to the 955BE in some things, but generally a little better in games; and it leaves an i5 as a viable upgrade path if needed. For the 955BE to have an upgrade path requires two things, one of which is highly uncertain. First, you need to get a socket AM3+ mobo, which will be more expensive; second, you need to hope that Piledriver is what Bulldozer should have been, and I'm not sure that's the way to bet.
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November 18, 2011 2:43:30 PM

pell380 said:
hahahahahahaha dont make me laugh i5 2500k can rip Phenom II X4 955


How's that HD6870 going to fare against an unlocked HD6950 2GB ??

Show your work.

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November 18, 2011 2:58:57 PM

probably going with this
ASUS M5A97 AM3+ USB3.0
Sapphire HD Radeon 6870 1gb
Phenom II X4 955 BE
CoolerMaster Hyper 212 Plus
CoolerMaster Elite 430 Case
Liteon Optical Drive
Ripjaws 1600 8GB
OCZ 700 W ModXStream

total after rebates and taxes $604


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November 18, 2011 3:03:46 PM

955 isn't a bad choice good build!
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November 18, 2011 3:14:35 PM

You know, Phenom II X4 955 isn't a bad CPU... but i5-2500k simply is a better one overall.

I think you got be satisfied with both (a little more with i5-2500k through)
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November 18, 2011 3:16:46 PM

maybe in the future definitly
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November 18, 2011 3:33:03 PM

vitornob said:
You know, Phenom II X4 955 isn't a bad CPU... but i5-2500k simply is a better one overall.

I think you got be satisfied with both (a little more with i5-2500k through)

everyone knew that 2500k is the king but why people choose 955 because they don't have money to buy expensive cpu that's why he is agree on 955 build.
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November 18, 2011 3:54:06 PM

I'd avoid any Coolermaster product (the company is dishonest, and does not deserve business); also the case will likely have untapped screw holes and may suffer from minor misalignment. Otherwise I can't think of any reason you'd be unhappy with that build, so I'm not going to try to tweak it to death. Have fun!

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November 18, 2011 4:06:32 PM

just a little heads up ...

At one time there was some issues with the Modstream PSUs (I had one go bad), and I think the ModXStream PSUs got into a p'ing contest over labeling at HardOCP (probably not a surprise).

I think it was a petty something about rated temps for the PSU and the way [H] ran tests. They failed the first unit and OCZ got a second test after lowering the rated temps on the label.

I don't think I'd worry about it unless it's really hot where you live -- and it probably would not be an issue, anyway, with an OC'ed 955 and single OC'ed HD6870 or HD6950. A Crossfire and maxing rated watts might freak things up a little bit ...

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November 18, 2011 4:28:03 PM

can you kind of rephrase that^ the third paragraph and jtt283 what case do u recommend then? how about apex
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November 18, 2011 4:45:07 PM

friend just buy 955 and enjoy
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November 18, 2011 4:47:12 PM

argueta789 said:
can you kind of rephrase that^ the third paragraph and jtt283 what case do u recommend then? how about apex

Haf 912 or a cm storm scout. Maybe a corsair 400r or an antec case. Not apevia.
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November 18, 2011 5:10:53 PM

argueta789 said:
can you kind of rephrase that^ the third paragraph and jtt283 what case do u recommend then? how about apex


Linkage !!

I'm not going to digest the whole thing but it looks like OCZ labeled it 50c, [H] tested at 45c and failed it, and OCZ relabeled to 40c ...



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November 18, 2011 5:12:49 PM

Coolermaster Hyper 212 Plus
http://ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=41337&vpn=RR%2DB...
ASUS M5A97 Evo ATX
http://ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=62519&vpn=M5A97%...
ASUS M5A97
http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=10530BD2677&v...
AMD Phenom II X4 955
http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=10360AC6599&v...
AMD Phenom II X4 965
http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=10360AC7665&v...
SAPPHIRE 100314-3L Radeon HD 6870
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...
Coolermaster Elite 430
http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=11130AC5936&v...
Zalman Z9 Plus
http://ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=57910&vpn=Z9%20P... TECH&promoid=1190
Samsung SH-S243D/BEBE 24X
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=45667&vpn=SH...
Corsair CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9B Vengeance Blue 8GB
http://ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=59431&vpn=CMZ8GX...
Corsair CML8GX3M2A1600C9 Vengeance Lowprofile 8GB = what i'd buy
http://ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=61961&vpn=CML8GX...
OCZ FATAL1TY 550W
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=37047&vpn=OC...
Go to NCIX and Pricematch all the non-ncix links in the checkout.
You could order the GPU from NCIX it's the same price $179 sans the $10 promo.= Newegg wants @12 for shipping though
Pretty sure the rebate isn't a Newegg exclusive but rather a Sapphire Canada/US wide.
NCIX FTW = Newegg.ca can't compete.
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November 18, 2011 5:13:34 PM

The Phenom II isn't that bad of a CPU but for gaming the I5 is the best right now. So to answer your question I would say go with the I5. As for mob's I would look at the Gigabyte Z68-UD4-B3. So far I have had no trouble at all with mine and I definitely glad I got it over the P67 chipsets.
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November 18, 2011 8:01:07 PM

HardwareSecrets found in testing that some Coolermaster PSUs had higher wattages on their labels than they could actually produce, and at least one claimed to have OCP protection that it lacked. This isn't about quality, this is about a company LYING. For quality, my favorite is the HardOCP review of the GX-650, which described it as a "polished turd in a box," but reviews of many of their (mostly "Extreme Power") PSUs at HardwareSecrets found them to be overrated and inefficient. There are a [very] few high quality Coolermaster PSUs, but the company is on my "Do Not Buy" list for their dishonesty, not over quality. Many of their cases have nice designs. Unfortunately, I think every one of the 5-6 I ever bought had untapped screw holes, many had minor panel misalignment (even my RC-690), and some had useless tool-free mounts. None of these made the cases unusable, but I just got tired of it. Rosewill has similar case designs, and NONE of the 6-7 different Rosewill models I've bought had ANY of these problems; so why risk CM?
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November 18, 2011 9:11:35 PM

pell380 said:
hahahahahahaha dont make me laugh i5 2500k can rip Phenom II X4 955


Not sure who said otherwise... But I was saying that in my real world experience, they felt exactly the same. Idk, maybe I am weird or something, but games, web, and foobar felt exactly the same on both CPUs. i5-2500k is better, no doubt in my mind, but for me, it was overkill. You can all that power of an i5-2500k, but I dont think he needs it (I for sure didnt, but still bought into all the recommendations for the i5-2500k). Good choice with the 955 though! OC that thing! and best of luck!
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November 18, 2011 10:56:02 PM

would the 965 let me overclock higher?
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November 19, 2011 1:22:19 AM

argueta789 said:
would the 965 let me overclock higher?

You can overclock a cpu as high as you want, you just need sufficent cooling................
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November 19, 2011 1:54:21 AM

An I3 2100 will game as well as the 955 though the 955 can be OC'd and the 2100 not so much.

But...If you go with the I3 it will give you the option to buy a decent p67 Mobo and you will be able to game just like if you had a 955 and in a year or more you can upgrade to a 2500K.

The 955 is great but it's also a dead end. I've tried to find the good points of bulldozer but I just can't. Even if piledriver is 10% better than bulldozer .....who cares it's performance just isn't there next to the I5 and I7 Gen 2 chips.

As for the 965 over the 955 The advantage when overclocking is going to be minimal extremely minimal. The chips are the same stepping C3 and will both likely OC to nearly the same speed one will do it with a little less voltage. Hardly worth even 5 dollars honnestly.
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