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August 21, 2011 9:45:33 PM

Approximate Purchase Date: within the next few weeks

Budget Range: $1800 before rebates

System Usage from Most to Least Important: gaming, photo/video editing, movies/music, normal usage

Parts Not Required: keyboard, mouse, monitor (the better half is making me buy a 42in panasonic led-lcd when i order the pc

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: newegg

Country of Origin: U.S.

Parts Preferences: by brand or type: intel based build

Overclocking: yes

SLI or Crossfire: this is where im torn... so maybe?

Monitor Resolution: 1920 x 1080

Additional Comments: none



anyway here is my build. but im torn between 2 560 ti 2gb in SLI or 580 3gb. they are pretty much the same price also if i use the 580 i would imagine i could downgrade my psu a bit

build:

case/psu combo: 329.98 - corsair 600t white/ corsair 850w psu
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

mobo: 149.99 - asrock p67
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

cpu: 219.99 - intel i5 2500k
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

cpu cooling: 27.99 - hyper 212 plus
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

ram: 109.99 - g skill ripjaw 16gb
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

video card:
either 589.99 - gtx 580 3gb
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
or 559.98 - 2x gtx 560 ti 2gb
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

ssd: 227.99 - crucial 128gb
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

hard drive: 54.99 - seagate 1tb
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

media drive: 19.99 - samsung dvd burner
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

total either way is around 1800 bucks just curious about video cards. but obviously if anyone has any major changes they would recommend im all ears.
August 21, 2011 10:10:30 PM

forgot to mention that i have to throw windows 7 in there. which is another 100 bucks and is what puts the total to around 1800
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August 22, 2011 2:00:03 AM

Firstly Neat lil system you got goin, love the case....I want 1 :p . Id be tempted to go the GTX580, you save space and better cooling, specially if you uses the clear window on the side of the case instead of the grill side (some 600t case come with 2 side pannels) but also leave room for a second 580 in the future. All if your just gaming on this rig, Id say the ram is a lil over kill. IMHO! I personally (im preparing to get hammered for saying this) would ditch the SSD and go 2 High speed HDD and set them in RAID0 (WD Velociraptors or even Black caviars 7500rpm), you will get way better bang for buck, more space and performace would be same if not better. Oh dont forget ull need windows 64bit to use the over 4 gig.
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August 22, 2011 2:16:51 AM

yeah... i was leaning towards the 16 gigs of ram mostly for photoshop/illustrator sessions. but it probably wont be necessary. ive been revising my build for an hour or so now trying to get the most bang out of the system.

i may have figured out a way to cram two gtx 570 2.5gb into my budget
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August 22, 2011 3:41:23 AM

-In an $1800 build, I certainly wouldn't have a MoBo w/ less than the industry standard 3 year warranty. The Asus model as full 3 year warranty for $10 more

ASUS P8P67 PRO ($10 off w/ promo code ASUS67MB10, ends 8/24 )
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

-In a $1000 build, I'd use the 212 but for $1800, I'd do something better like the mugen 2 or 3 ..... The mugen 2 topped the 212 by 7C.

-16Gigs overdone for gaming. Wanna spend on RAM, get 8 GB of these. Won't see that great a change on average frame rates but I have seen min frame rates improve w/ lower CAS. For CAS 9's the Musjkin Radioactives and Corsair's are a great buy

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

-The twin 560's in a heartbeat.

But not the $260 822 Mhz model .... The EVGA 900MHz model is $40 cheaper
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I like the Asus one tho, I have OC'd all but one to 1000Mhz w/o touching voltage settings
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

-Save $30 on the SSD
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

-Double storage and increase speed for about twice the price
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

-$310 is a bit much for what ya getting on case / PSU combo ... great PSU but pricey

$140 Antec DF-85 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$95 Antec CP-850 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

johnnyguru says you'd have to spend twice as much to find a PSU as good as the CP-850.
http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=...

As for the Case / PSU combo, read what silentpcreview,.com says about the 1200/CP-850 combo (DF-85 is upgrade of the 1200 so comments hold.)

http://www.silentpcreview.com/article971-page7.html

Check out the comparative performance of the 560, 570 and 580

Guru3D uses the following games in their test suite, COD-MW, Bad Company 2, Dirt 2, Far Cry 2, Metro 2033, Dawn of Discovery, Crysis Warhead. Total fps (summing fps in each game @ 1920 x 1200) for the various options in parenthesis (single card / SL or CF) are tabulated below along with their cost in dollars per frame single card - CF or SLI:

$ 205.00 560 Ti (455/792) $ 0.45 - $ 0.52
$ 220.00 560 Ti - 900 Mhz (495/862) $ 0.44 - $ 0.51
$ 335.00 570 (524/873) $ 0.64 - $ 0.77
$ 450.00 580 (616/953) $ 0.73 - $ 0.94

862 fps for $440 with the 560 900Mhz models .... 570 gets ya whopping 11 extra fps for for an extra $230. The 560 is a much more robust overclocker due to its better VR circuit. Quite a few peeps getting a bit aggressive on their over volting on the 570 have toasted them which a bit of googling will give ya the details on.




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August 22, 2011 5:04:43 AM

thanks for the info. the 16 gigs of ram is for photoshop/illustrator sessions. so thats definately in.

but you were able to give me the info i needed on video cards. thanks
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August 22, 2011 5:41:23 PM

Z68, 2600K, dual factory o/c gtx 560ti's in SLI, etc...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $189.99
ASRock Z68 EXTREME4 GEN3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite... $289.98 $10 off w/ promo code EMCKBJB37, ends 8/24
CORSAIR Professional Series HX750 (CMPSU-750HX) 750W ATX12V 2.3 / EPS12V 2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS SILVER Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply
Corsair Special Edition White Graphite Series 600T Steel / Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite... $544.98 - $30.00 Mail In Rebates FREE SHIPPING
EVGA SuperClocked 01G-P3-1563-AR GeForce GTX 560 Ti (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
Intel Core i7-2600K Sandy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I72600K

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $249.99 - $219.99 after mail-in rebate card $249.99 FREE SHIPPING
EVGA SuperClocked 01G-P3-1563-AR GeForce GTX 560 Ti (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $27.99 FREE SHIPPING
COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus RR-B10-212P-G1 "Heatpipe Direct Contact" Long Life Sleeve 120mm CPU Cooler Compatible Intel Core i5 & Intel Core i7

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $109.99 FREE SHIPPING
G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 16GB (4 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9Q-16GBXL

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $19.99 FREE SHIPPING
Sony Optiarc CD/DVD Burner 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM Black SATA Model AD-7260S-0B - OEM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $54.99 FREE SHIPPING
Seagate Barracuda ST31000524AS 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $211.99 FREE SHIPPING
Crucial M4 CT128M4SSD2 2.5" 128GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $99.99 FREE SHIPPING
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit - OEM

Total: $1,799.98 *not including shipping, promo codes, and rebates
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August 22, 2011 6:25:39 PM

you don't need to build SLI rig for that resolution...
first... you'll spend more money on electricity bills...
second.. multi-gpu configuration often associated with micro-stuttering problem... which gives users unpleasant experience while gaming...

maybe you can try this build...

cpu: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
i5 2500k - $219.99

mobo: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
asrock p67 extreme4 gen3 - $159.99

ram: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
patriot gamer 2 series 8gb 1600mhz - $37.99 after MIR

graphics card: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
galaxy gtx 580 1.5gb arctic cooling accelero xtreme edition - $434.99 after MIR

power supply: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
XFX PRO750W XXX Edition Semi-Modular - $99.99 after MIR

cpu cooling: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
thermaltake frio - $57.99

casing: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
nzxt phantom - $139.99

hdd: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
samsung spinpoint f3 1tb - $59.99

ssd: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
OCZ Vertex 3 V3LT-25SAT3-240G 2.5" 240GB - $439.99

optical drive: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
LG DVD Burner GH24NS70 - $18.99

operating system: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
win 7 home premium 64-bit - $99.99




total after MIR - $1769.89



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August 22, 2011 7:02:41 PM

wtf? Am I the only one on this thread that read the OP and realizes the benefits of a 2600K paired up with a Z68 board in regards to video and photo editing?
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August 22, 2011 7:12:37 PM

phenom90 said:
you don't need to build SLI rig for that resolution...
first... you'll spend more money on electricity bills...
second.. multi-gpu configuration often associated with micro-stuttering problem... which gives users unpleasant experience while gaming...

maybe you can try this build...

cpu: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
i5 2500k - $219.99

mobo: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
asrock p67 extreme4 gen3 - $159.99

ram: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
patriot gamer 2 series 8gb 1600mhz - $37.99 after MIR

graphics card: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
galaxy gtx 580 1.5gb arctic cooling accelero xtreme edition - $434.99 after MIR

power supply: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
XFX PRO750W XXX Edition Semi-Modular - $99.99 after MIR

cpu cooling: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
thermaltake frio - $57.99

casing: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
nzxt phantom - $139.99

hdd: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
samsung spinpoint f3 1tb - $59.99

ssd: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
OCZ Vertex 3 V3LT-25SAT3-240G 2.5" 240GB - $439.99

optical drive: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
LG DVD Burner GH24NS70 - $18.99

operating system: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
win 7 home premium 64-bit - $99.99

total after MIR - $1769.89


That board up above is meant for dual vid cards, yet you have a 750w psu that's over kill for one of those cards, yet comes up short pushing two of those cards.

BTW they say BF3 can't be played on ultra high details with a single gtx 580 @ 1920 x 1080
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August 23, 2011 11:24:14 AM

i'm sorry... i didn't read carefully... for here's the revised recommendation...

cpu: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6819115072
i5 2500k - $219.99

mobo: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813157265
asrock p67 extreme4 gen3 - $159.99

or

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
open box: asus p8p67 ws revolution - $199.99

ram: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820220558
patriot gamer 2 series 8gb 1600mhz - $37.99 after MIR

graphics card: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
2x sapphire hd 6950 2gb toxic - $539.98 after MIR

or

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
2x msi gtx 570 1280mb - $589.98 after MIR

psu: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
ocz zx series 1000w fully modular - $179.99 after MIR

ssd: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
ocz vertex 3 120gb - $199.99 after MIR

hdd: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6822152185
samsung spinpoint f3 1tb - $59.99

optical drive: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6827136236
LG DVD Burner GH24NS70 - $18.99

operating system: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6832116986
win 7 home premium 64-bit - $99.99

casing: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
silverstone raven 2 evolution - $189.99

cpu cooler: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
coolermaster hyper 212 plus - $27.99

push/pull fan: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
coolermaster 120mm blade master - $9.99

total : up to $1834.87(oops... over $1800 budget) if you pick the most expensive part... and price not included shipping...

but i strongly recommend the raven 2 casing... it has very good airflow and suitable for sli/crossfire...






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