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August 22, 2011 9:13:46 PM

Hello,
can you tell me if all of the above are compatible? And if u used them if they are good or not and if you would reccomend something else. :)  Fist computer ! so excited!!!
PSU: Cooler Master eXtreme Power Plus Series 500W ATX12V V2.3 Active PFC Power Supply - (RS500-PCARD3-US)
Case:Cooler Master HAF ATX Mid Tower Case, RC-922M-KKN1-GP (Black)
Mobo:GA-P45T-ES3G Desktop Motherboard - Intel - Socket T LGA-775
CPU:Intel Core 2 Quad Q8400 Processor 2.66 GHz 4 MB Cache Socket LGA775
Hard Drive:Western Digital 1 TB Caviar Green SATA II 64 MB Cache Bulk/OEM Desktop Hard Drive WD10EARS
RAM:Kingston Technology HyperX 8 GB Kit (2x4 GB Modules) 8 Dual Channel Kit 1600 (PC3 12800) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM KHX1600C9D3K2/8GX
Video card: Sapphire Radeon HD 6850 1 GB GDDR5 VGA/DL-DVI-I/SL-DVI-D/HDMI/Display Port PCI-Express Video Card 100315L
they are all on amazon so you can look at them if you want and if im missing something please tell me! thanks in advance!!!

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August 22, 2011 9:34:43 PM

ekzhu703 said:
Hello,
can you tell me if all of the above are compatible? And if u used them if they are good or not and if you would reccomend something else. :)  Fist computer ! so excited!!!
PSU: Cooler Master eXtreme Power Plus Series 500W ATX12V V2.3 Active PFC Power Supply - (RS500-PCARD3-US)
Case:Cooler Master HAF ATX Mid Tower Case, RC-922M-KKN1-GP (Black)
Mobo:GA-P45T-ES3G Desktop Motherboard - Intel - Socket T LGA-775
CPU:Intel Core 2 Quad Q8400 Processor 2.66 GHz 4 MB Cache Socket LGA775
Hard Drive:Western Digital 1 TB Caviar Green SATA II 64 MB Cache Bulk/OEM Desktop Hard Drive WD10EARS
RAM:Kingston Technology HyperX 8 GB Kit (2x4 GB Modules) 8 Dual Channel Kit 1600 (PC3 12800) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM KHX1600C9D3K2/8GX
Video card: Sapphire Radeon HD 6850 1 GB GDDR5 VGA/DL-DVI-I/SL-DVI-D/HDMI/Display Port PCI-Express Video Card 100315L
they are all on amazon so you can look at them if you want and if im missing something please tell me! thanks in advance!!!

actually for the psu i was thinking of using this
Corsair Builder Series CX600 600 watt 80 Plus Certified Power Supply Compatible with Intel and AMD Platforms ATX 700 CMPSU-600CXV2
a c 91 B Homebuilt system
August 23, 2011 10:25:36 PM

The Corsair PSU is a much, much, much better choice.

Cooler Master's cases are excellent. I have the Centurion 5 and for $50 they really are very solid and sturdy. The Antec 300 is also a good choice in this category.

As far as the hard drive goes, instead of a 1TB hard drive, go with two 750GB hard drives and run them in RAID 0, or going with a 64GB-SSD and a 1TB hard drive for expanded storage. Your primary HD, unless it's an SSD, is almost always the major bottleneck in your system.

Unless you're on an extremely limited budget, DO NOT get the 775. It's a very old and outdated chipset, and I think Intel may stop making new CPUs for it soon if they haven't already. Instead go with the Intel Core i5-2500 and an inexpensive board like the Asus P8P67, Gigabyte GA-P67X-UD3 , or the Intel DP67DEB3. Repeat - do not get the 775.

Also if this is your first time there's a few things extra that you'll need:

- DVD burner - you can get a cheap one from New Egg for like $20
- Operating System disc - get the Windows 7 OEM disc for $99
- I'd look into getting an inexpensive CPU cooler like the Cooler Master Hyper 212 - it'll only run an extra $30, and most of the CPU fans included with the CPUs are junk to begin with
- Monitor, keyboard, mouse, all that good stuff

Oh and also use Newegg, I wouldn't trust a lot of the stuff they sell on Amazon unless it's from a certified vendor.
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August 24, 2011 1:30:19 AM

Ok thanks so much here is the revised edition I dont understand what you mean about the HD amd whats a SSD srry im a newb :) 

Motherboard
Gigabyte Intel Z68 ATX DDR3 2133 LGA 1155 Motherboard GA-Z68A-D3H-B3
107


Procceser
Intel Core i5-2500K Processor 3.3GHz 6 MB Cache Socket LGA1155
219.99

Hard drive
WD10EARS
1 TB cavier green Sata II 64 MB cache
Western Digital
59.62


RAM
KHX1600C9d3k2/8gx
8 GB Kit (2x4 GB Modules) 8 Dual Channel Kit 1600 (PC3 12800) 240-Pin DDR3
Kingston Technology
49.95(rebate 15)

Case
(RC-430-KWN1)
Cooler MAster Elite 430
44.99

Fan
Cooler Master 120mm Silent Case Fan 4-in-1 Value Pack - (R4-S2S-124K-GP)
13.89

Video Card
Sapphire Radeon HD 6850 1 GB GDDR5 VGA/DL-DVI-I/SL-DVI-D/HDMI/Display Port PCI-Express Video Card 100315L
139.99(rebate 15)

Power Supply
Corsair Builder Series CX600 600 watt 80 Plus Certified Power Supply Compatible with Intel and AMD Platforms ATX 700 CMPSU-600CXV2
43.74(rebate 20)

Cpu Cooler
Cooler Master Hyper N520 Mirror Finished Copper Base Aluminum Fins 5 Heatpipes CPU Cooler - (RR-920-N520-GP)
33.98

also i want this computer to be used for medium gaming and, you know everyday use can you im thinking about ocing the 2500 thats why i got the k so do you think the cooler is adequate for mild-medium oc ? i dont want to seriously push the sytym so i didnt think i would need an water cooler

i know i havent included optical drives and the os and the keyboard but if you could recommend a better build great budget for like 850-900 USD thanks
August 24, 2011 1:32:16 AM

also i heard if you have to much W on the psu it can fry the mobo is that true?
a c 91 B Homebuilt system
August 24, 2011 4:36:39 AM

That's a much better build. That'll last you a long time to come. However I'd still look at your storage options. You always want to have your OS separate from your data, because if you have to wipe the hard drive and reinstall the OS for whatever reason, that is always a huge pain (and with a 1TB... man... you don't want to know). Honestly the best way to go would be to get a small SSD (60 - 100GB) and a larger 1 - 2TB hard drive for your programs and data, and that will save you a lot of time in the long run. The Z68 is the best chipset on the market for SSDs.

If you want to learn more about solid state drives (SSDs) then just take a look at some of the articles on this site in the storage section, they're more than useful!

And yes that is a good choice for cooler, I like Cooler Master's stuff.
a c 91 B Homebuilt system
August 24, 2011 6:57:17 PM

ekzhu703 said:
also i heard if you have to much W on the psu it can fry the mobo is that true?


No - the only possible way to fry your motherboard is if you overclock your CPU to a speed that it cant handle and continue to run it on that speed repeatedly.

This is the build I'd recommend - it's pretty similar to what you've got except for a couple minor changes.

Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 - $49.99
PSU: Corsair Builder Series CX600 - $59.99
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z68X-UD4H-B3- $169.99
CPU: Intel Core i5-2500K - $219.99
CPU Cooling: Cooler Master Hyper 212 - $29.99
RAM: Kingston Hyper X DDR-3 1600MHz 8GB (2 x 4GB) - $54.99
Hard Drive: Seagate Barracuda 500GB OEM x 2 (1TB total storage space) - $39.99 each
Optical: Lite-On 24x DVD Burner - $18.99
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 560 1GB - $194.99
Keyboard / Mouse: Microsoft Cordless Desktop 5000 - $54.99
Monitor: Viewsonic VA243H1 24" Widesceen Monitor - $149.99
Operating System: Windows 7 Home Premium - $99.99

Total: $1208.00
August 24, 2011 7:31:28 PM

i dont understand what raid -0 is so if someone could help with that that would be great. Also should i put the OS on the ssd and all of my other stuff on the regular HD? i dont understand how a the regular hd would bottleneck. srry im a newb
a c 91 B Homebuilt system
August 24, 2011 8:14:06 PM

ekzhu703 said:
i dont understand what raid -0 is so if someone could help with that that would be great. Also should i put the OS on the ssd and all of my other stuff on the regular HD? i dont understand how a the regular hd would bottleneck. srry im a newb


No problem. Here's Wikipedia's definition:

Quote:
RAID 0 (block-level striping without parity or mirroring) has no (or zero) redundancy. It provides improved performance and additional storage but no fault tolerance. Hence simple stripe sets are normally referred to as RAID 0. Any disk failure destroys the array, and the likelihood of failure increases with more disks in the array (at a minimum, catastrophic data loss is almost twice as likely compared to single drives without RAID). A single disk failure destroys the entire array because when data is written to a RAID 0 volume, the data is broken into fragments called blocks. The number of blocks is dictated by the stripe size, which is a configuration parameter of the array. The blocks are written to their respective disks simultaneously on the same sector. This allows smaller sections of the entire chunk of data to be read off the drive in parallel, increasing bandwidth. RAID 0 does not implement error checking, so any error is uncorrectable. More disks in the array means higher bandwidth, but greater risk of data loss.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAID


And yes that's the main use for SSD is to store the operating system and mainly the programs that you use most. SSD's aren't designed to be bogged down with lots of data on them, that's why if you use one, you offset the storage onto the standard 1 - 2TB drives. SSD's kind of work the same way flash memory does.
August 24, 2011 9:01:47 PM

what programs would i put on ssd? i feel so dumb :p 
and im still not sure what raid is
August 24, 2011 9:05:31 PM

and why would i need ssd other then to put the os on it
a c 91 B Homebuilt system
August 24, 2011 10:53:39 PM

ekzhu703 said:
what programs would i put on ssd? i feel so dumb :p 
and im still not sure what raid is


For the SSD you mainly store the OS, a few programs like iTunes, Acrobat, MS Office, maybe a couple of games. But you really don't want to max out your SSD or risk it running really slowly.

And RAID is basically really complicated to explain but in order for it to work, you have to have two, three, or four of the exact same hard - same speed, same everything. And RAID is basically a way for them to run in sync with each other, creating a larger storage space across multiple drives.
August 27, 2011 4:25:37 AM

oh ok you guys were so helpful!! but i dont think i can dish out 900 bucks for my build does anyone one have a relativly good one for 600 sowtware and all? i know its going to be crappy but give it a shot i cnat find anyparts that are not terrible that will stay in that budget.:( 
a c 91 B Homebuilt system
August 29, 2011 2:34:59 AM

ekzhu703 said:
oh ok you guys were so helpful!! but i dont think i can dish out 900 bucks for my build does anyone one have a relativly good one for 600 sowtware and all? i know its going to be crappy but give it a shot i cnat find anyparts that are not terrible that will stay in that budget.:( 


For $600 you may have to forfeit a few things like a dedicated video card but there's plenty of good CPUs on the market that make up for it. I really like AMD's A8 APUs because they eliminate the need for a central graphics card and have pretty decent graphics built-in. Check out this build and see if it suits you:

Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 - $59.99
Power Supply: Corsair Builder Series CX430 - $49.99
Motherboard: Asus F1A75-V Pro - $129.99
CPU: AMD Quad Core A8-3850 - $139.99
RAM: Kingston Hyper X 8GB PC 1600MHz - $54.99
Hard Drive: Seagate Barracuda 500 GB 7200 RPM - $39.99
Optical: Lite-On 24x DVD Burner - $19.99
OS: Windows 7 Home Premium - $99.99
Keyboard / Mouse: Microsoft Cordless Desktop 5000 - $59.99
Monitor: Viewsonic VA2333 23" LED - $149.99

Total: $793.90
September 17, 2011 3:14:34 AM

sorry this is kinda late but can somempeople give me advice/comparison on adm and intel like pro and cons on both
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