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August 25, 2012 2:12:59 PM

i'm looking for the best motherboard out there in terms of bang for buck. what will give me the ability to have great performance, cooling options, etc with my equipment. i see the asrock extreme6 appears to be recommended by toms, but its 30 bucks more than what other boards are running for. do i want this board more than the others for a certain reason or should i look at other boards like the sabertooth for example?

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a b V Motherboard
August 25, 2012 2:29:17 PM

If your looking for the best Z77 board than Asrock should not be on your list, until Asrock can prove their reliability among the HW's like Asus, Gigabyte and MSI I wont recommend them not in this situation where you want the best.

ASUS P8Z77-V LGA
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a c 716 V Motherboard
August 25, 2012 2:36:30 PM

I need to know more, like CPU, OC, GPU, drives, use, etc otherwise it's like pin the tail on the donkey guess which is best for you. Yeah sure the ASUS Sabertooth Z77 is an excellent MOBO.
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August 25, 2012 2:40:26 PM

sorry jaquith, knew i should've posted more details. its a asus 670gtx gpu (might change to SLI 2 560s), cpu is the i5-3570k, no oc at the moment, and then drives would be one ssd (mountable anywhere) and a seagate barracude 1tb, 16gb (2x8gb) of gskill ares RAM, and then a cooler master hyper 212+ evo for the cpu.
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a c 716 V Motherboard
August 25, 2012 2:57:59 PM

Then the ASUS Sabertooth Z77 and the GTX 670 (EVGA or ASUS).

Boring story and some insight -
SLI GTX 560 = Single GTX 670 and the GTX 500 series is in the process of discounting. I originally purchased a single GTX 560 so I would refrain from gaming other than running a demo, I added a 2nd and regret that decision. My daughter's the gamer with the GTX 680's and my wife hates when I game. Eventually the GTX 670's will be cheap and you can add a second down the pike and perhaps skip the need for a new GPU down the line.
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August 25, 2012 3:05:00 PM

okay thanks. and what if i go with the 560Ti or 570 fermi as my primary gpu? ive heard that the regular 560 isnt as good so thats why i ask this question.
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a c 716 V Motherboard
August 25, 2012 3:22:28 PM

First not all GTX 560's are the same, besides the vanilla GTX 560 and most 560Ti are limited to (2-WAY), or the GTX 560 Ti 448 cores/GTX 570 allows (3-WAY) where you'd need a Z77 + PLX MOBO i.e. not the Sabertooth Z77. Further, just speaking of GTX 560 (vanilla) vs GTX 560 Ti -- for a while by accident (probably w/new regain) set a world record 3DMark11 with SLI GTX 560 (vanilla) exceeding SLI GTX 560 Ti, so you have another factor of GPU OC's.

I am reading between the lines you like the looks over performance, for looks then a non-reference with a backplate 'looks' the best.

Q - What's the reasoning with SLI GTX 560 XX vs Single GTX 670??
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August 25, 2012 3:25:40 PM

i want to cut costs, but still be able to game at high settings e.g. battlefield 3 on ultra or high settings. my friend is able to do it and run sc2 at the same time just fine.
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a c 716 V Motherboard
August 25, 2012 3:49:22 PM

Then on 1920x1080 the Single GTX 670 is you best choice, the primary reason is vRAM. Most GTX 500 series, I fully know some have 3GB, is 1GB~1.5GB of vRAM whereas the GTX 670 offers 2GB or in some cases 4GB of vRAM. On my daughter's rig I had to wait forever for a GTX 670/680 4GB + Water Block.

Also you might want to consider the HD 7970 3GB.

So either the GTX 670 2GB/4GB or HD 7970 3GB for BF3 1920x1080 w/ Ultra settings. You'd need to OC a GTX 660 Ti to reach vSync levels but it's also a consideration, and ditto with the GTX 670 OC or non-reference card.


GTX 660Ti review - http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-660-ti-...
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a b V Motherboard
August 25, 2012 3:57:43 PM

Are you going to overclock at all? (cpu or gpu) (I assume you are since you're getting a z77 motherboard)

and cheap doesn't really go with good performance.

But ya. GTX 670/7970 is probably your best bet for being able to run games at 60+ fps with ultra settings and some aa/af at 1080p.

You don't need 4GB of vram for 1080p you don't even need it for 2560x1440 resolution.......

2GB is more than enough unless you're heavily modding on the game at 2560x1440...
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a c 716 V Motherboard
August 25, 2012 4:12:17 PM

killerhurtalot said:
You don't need 4GB of vram for 1080p you don't even need it for 2560x1440 resolution.......

I never said you did, my daughter is running 3D Vision on 3xHD monitors or 5900x1080 (w/bezel correction), and 2GB will vRAM bottleneck.

BF3 on 1xHD 1920x1080 will suck up 2GB vRAM and will bottleneck on less e.g. 1GB vRAM.

Edit/ - However, IF there's a chance you'll get 3xHD then only get the 4GB GTX 670/680, you can get by with decent settings with 3xHD in 2D but forget 3D. Monitors aren't that expensive unless you like 3D Vision (120Hz).
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a b V Motherboard
August 25, 2012 4:12:42 PM

jaquith said:
Then on 1920x1080 the Single GTX 670 is you best choice, the primary reason is vRAM. Most GTX 500 series, I fully know some have 3GB, is 1GB~1.5GB of vRAM whereas the GTX 670 offers 2GB or in some cases 4GB of vRAM. On my daughter's rig I had to wait forever for a GTX 670/680 4GB + Water Block.

Also you might want to consider the HD 7970 3GB.

So either the GTX 670 2GB/4GB or HD 7970 3GB for BF3 1920x1080 w/ Ultra settings. You'd need to OC a GTX 660 Ti to reach vSync levels but it's also a consideration, and ditto with the GTX 670 OC or non-reference card.

http://media.bestofmicro.com/8/R/348939/original/BF3%20%201920.png
GTX 660Ti review - http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-660-ti-...



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a c 716 V Motherboard
August 25, 2012 4:19:30 PM

redeemer said:
Strange

Maybe read the OP's requirements first and it won't be that Strange to you anymore.

wabbit_season said:
i want to cut costs, but still be able to game at high settings e.g. battlefield 3 on ultra or high settings. my friend is able to do it and run sc2 at the same time just fine.

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a b V Motherboard
August 25, 2012 5:15:41 PM

jaquith said:
I never said you did, my daughter is running 3D Vision on 3xHD monitors or 5900x1080 (w/bezel correction), and 2GB will vRAM bottleneck.

BF3 on 1xHD 1920x1080 will suck up 2GB vRAM and will bottleneck on less e.g. 1GB vRAM.

Edit/ - However, IF there's a chance you'll get 3xHD then only get the 4GB GTX 670/680, you can get by with decent settings with 3xHD in 2D but forget 3D. Monitors aren't that expensive unless you like 3D Vision (120Hz).


lol... I've never had battlefield 3 suck up more than 1.5 GB of ram even on modded 64 player servers on 2560x1440 playing at ultra settings and 4xAA on with my EVGA GTX 670 FTW... (I get high 30s to mid 40s fps with boost at 1150mhz core)

I don't see how it can even approach 2GB of vram usage on 1080p.
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a c 716 V Motherboard
August 25, 2012 6:48:24 PM

I don't see how a the server has anything to do with vRAM, 1920x1080 Ultra and 4xAA etc eye-candy settings I've seen usage as high as 2.5GB and most folks are hitting 1.8GB~1.9GB using Ultra settings. So if you're hitting 1.5GB then I'd say that's the max vRAM on your GPU(s) e.g. GTX 480.

So I don't know WTH you're talking about or if you actually know -- go Google some more or something.
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August 26, 2012 1:40:37 AM

so i think ive decided on the 660Ti, its no 670, but its cheaper and will allow me to upgrade my cpu to the i7 2600k and saves me 20 bucks. the mobo i decided to go with is the p8z77-v LK. any objections or comments or recommendations to what im thinking about going with?
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a c 716 V Motherboard
August 26, 2012 4:14:34 PM

Gaming:

Yours:
$130 ASUS P8Z77-V LK
$310 i7-2600K
$310 EVGA SuperClocked 02G-P4-3662-KR GTX 670 2GB
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$750

My choices:
$142 ASRock Z77 Extreme4
$230 i5-3570K
$380 EVGA 02G-P4-2670-KR GTX 670 2GB
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$752

There are very few uses where hyper-threading is useful to folks and in gaming a tiny tiny fraction and then 1-3 FPS.
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