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November 24, 2011 5:05:26 AM

Hello every1,
please help me .. first time pc builder..
Current build:
1. AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ 2.60GHz
2. Gigabyte M61PME-s2p v1.0 http://www.gigabyte.com/products/p [...] id=3009#ov
3. Palit Nvidia GeForce 9400 GT 1GB 128bit http://www.palit.biz/palit/vgapro.php?id=1081
4. Acer 19" 1440x900 VGA DVI-D model no: V193W
5. ViP 400R SMPS
6. 2x Kingston 2GB DDR2 RAM = 4GB
7. Samsung Octoedge DVD Writer [CONNECTOR IS IDE]
8. Logitech Mouse/Keyboard PS2
9. Creative 2.1 Speakers
10. 1x Seagate Baracuda SATA2 500GB & 1x 250GB HDD 3GB/s = 750GB
11. Custom cabinet : descrip: TOP mounted PSU, 2x sidefans, 1x front led inlet fan, 1system exhaust

I will be upgrading ..to a more better gaming build ASAP

i WILL NOT OVERCLOCK , NOR CROSSFIRE, NOR SLI.. gonna go with just SINGLE GRAPHICS CARD!


Graphics :got my eyes on the 6970 or maybe the nvidia GTX 580 - but both of then require 1x 8pin & 1x 6pin connector
Processor: amd phenom 965 or maybe the intel i5-2500k
Mobo: Gigabyte the 3-3-3 one's .. mostly tom's hardware recommended
3x 2TB hdd's
4x Fans 120mm
1x exhaust 140mm & a cpu cooler
24" 1080p display


so how much power do i need??
really confused between: Seasonic x-560 [will it be able to run evga superclocked 580?] or shuld i got with x-650? ...do i require the x-760?

whats the difference between seasonic x650 & x-660 ?
what about corsair HX 650? does it stand a chance?

please help really confused..
m inclining towards the seasonic x650 or x660 the gold rated one.. but WHATS THE DIFFERENCE?
i checked out their website.. and in product details i found difference that the x660 was "fully modular"

but LOL on a unboxing & review of x650 on youtube .. the psu is FULLY modular.. so whats the difference??

country: india
site: http://www.theitwares.com/index.php



really really confused .. seasonic x-560/x-650/x-660/x-760/corsair hx-650
corsair being about 20$ cheaper & 2 years more warranty [but lol 5years base warranty is good enuf .. ]


please please help me ~ need to be future proof .. atleast next 3-5 years
thanks a lot ^_^


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November 24, 2011 5:36:43 AM

I would go with the corsair tx 650 or 850.Or you can go with the corsair AX1200,fully modular and later you can upgrade to your hearts content
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November 24, 2011 6:23:43 AM

For a system running with a single GeForce GTX 580 graphics card NVIDIA specifies a minimum 600 Watt or greater power supply with a combined +12 Volt continuous current rating of 42 Amps or greater and with at least one 6-pin and one 8-pin PCI Express supplementary power connectors.

The Corsair Professional HX650W (CMPSU-650HX) modular power supply, with its +12 Volt continuous current rating of 52 Amps and four 6+2 pin PCI-Express supplementary power connectors is more than enough to handle a system running with a single GeForce GTX 580 graphics card.
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November 24, 2011 8:27:24 AM

thanx for the reply guys.. i got some more queries.. what about the seasonix x-560 ? is it enough to power this:

# BUILD 1 # for me
http://www.theitwares.com/evga-015p31580kr-geforce-ferm...
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http://www.theitwares.com/intel-core-2600k-sandy-bridge...
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http://www.theitwares.com/asus-p8z68v-1155-intel-hdmi-s...
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http://www.theitwares.com/gskill-sniper-240pin-ddr3-sdr...
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http://www.theitwares.com/asus-sata-black-internal-writ...
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http://www.theitwares.com/coolermaster-cooler-rruv8xbu1...
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3 of http://www.theitwares.com/seagate-barracuda-720012-st31...


ALSO .. what about this build .. for my friend .. :
will the seasonic x-560 be enough:
#BUILD 2 #
2 of http://www.theitwares.com/seagate-barracuda-720012-st31...
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http://www.theitwares.com/phenom-1100t-black-edition-th...
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http://www.theitwares.com/sapphire-100311sr-radeon-6970...
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http://www.theitwares.com/gigabyte-ga880gmusb3-880g-hdm...
+
http://www.theitwares.com/corsair-dominator-240pin-ddr3...
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http://www.theitwares.com/asus-sata-black-internal-writ...
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Stock cooler + Keyboard/mouse

Will the x560 be insufficient for both these builds??
will Corsair HX650w be enough for both of them?
im not going to Crossfire ..
but may go in for factory overclocked 580 [ i plan to get it in a couple of months..]


also .. what about this :
http://www.theitwares.com/corsair-enthusiast-series-tx6...
is this insufficient for both builds?
because it has just 2 pci connectors whereas hx 650 has 4 ?

please help . .



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November 24, 2011 8:56:47 AM

Find the very best one you can afford, and go with that. There are so many on the market that meet your requirements, and we could go through them all for days.
The best advice for buying a PSU ? Don't try and save a few pennies. Remember, too much power is far better than too little.
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November 24, 2011 6:04:44 PM

dracx333 said:
thanx for the reply guys.. i got some more queries.. what about the seasonix x-560 ? is it enough to power this:

# BUILD 1 # for me
Motherboard: ASUS P8Z68-V PRO
CPU: Intel Core i7 2600K
CPU Cooler: Coolermaster V8 CPU cooler (RR-UV8-XBU1-GP)
Memory: G.SKILL Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) F3-12800CL9D-8GBSR
GPU: EVGA 015-P3-1580-AR GeForce GTX 580 (Fermi) 1536MB 384-bit GDDR5
Optical Drive: ASUS 24X Sata Black Internal DVD Writer [DRW-24B1ST]
HDD: 3x Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 ST31000524AS 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA3

ALSO .. what about this build .. for my friend .. :
will the seasonic x-560 be enough:
# BUILD 2 #
Motherboard: GIGABYTE GA-880GM-USB3 Micro-ATX
CPU: AMD Phenom II X6 1100T Black Edition Thuban Socket AM3 125W
CPU Cooler: Stock cooler
Memory: CORSAIR DOMINATOR 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) CMD4GX3M2B1600C8
GPU: SAPPHIRE 100311SR Radeon HD 6970 2GB
Optical Drive: ASUS 24X Sata Black Internal DVD Writer [DRW-24B1ST]
HDD: 2x Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 ST31000524AS 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA3
+ Keyboard/mouse

Will the x560 be insufficient for both these builds??
will Corsair HX650w be enough for both of them?
im not going to Crossfire ..
but may go in for factory overclocked 580 [ i plan to get it in a couple of months..]


also .. what about this :
http://www.theitwares.com/corsair-enthusiast-series-tx6...
is this insufficient for both builds?
because it has just 2 pci connectors whereas hx 650 has 4 ?

please help . .

The Seasonic X-Series 560W X-560 (SS-560KM), with its +12 Volt continuous current rating of 46 Amps and two 6+2 pin PCI-Express supplementary power connectors, is capable of powering either build.

The Corsair Professional HX650W (CMPSU-650HX), with its +12 Volt continuous current rating of 52 Amps and four 6+2 pin PCI-Express supplementary power connectors, is capable of powering either build. This PSU is made by Seasonic for Corsair.

The Enthusiast Series TX650 V2 (CMPSU-650TXV2), with its +12 Volt continuous current rating of 53 Amps and two 6+2 pin PCI-Express supplementary power connectors, is capable of powering either build. This PSU is made by Seasonic for Corsair.
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November 24, 2011 6:54:27 PM

id reccomend the 650w ones its best to not run psu's near their limit as they get hot and loud also. if you havent bought the parts yet wait till january the 7xxx series is coming out then. less power draw and should be much much faster
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November 25, 2011 1:18:07 AM

hey guyz, thanx a ton for the feedback..
just recently learned that corsair products r more supported [warranty n stuff & also availability] than the seasonic ones locally at my place..
also .. special thanks to ko888 & we1shcake [really agree with u about not running psu's near their limit] & Tonkyboy [agree with u about not tryin to save $$]

so .. i've decided to go with the corsair HX650 [relatively well supported + 7yrs warranty + semi modular]

one last query that i got is about :

http://www.evga.com/products/moreinfo.asp?pn=03G-P3-159...

it says : Requirements
Minimum of a 700 Watt power supply.
(Minimum recommended power supply with +12 Volt current rating of 50 Amps.)
Two 8-pin PCI Express power connectors or four available 6-pin PCI Express power connectors

so will the hx650w be able to run it? alongside build #1 & #2 ?
[umm i really dont think i can afford the gfx card right now .. but maybe a couple of months later if i get a good exchange deal who knows :)  ] ..
just tryin to be future-ready .. for next 7years [lol the longest warranty period ive ever seen]


oops .. forgot 1 more thing :
for running just 1display [24" ] nvidia is preffered over radeon right? since wont be needing eyeinfinity?
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November 25, 2011 1:23:48 AM

.. umm 1 more thing.. [sorrie forgot] in my current case.. the PSU is placed TOP ..
is this OK ?
or do i need to change cabinet .. for bottom mounted psu?
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a c 1176 ) Power supply
November 25, 2011 2:40:56 AM

dracx333 said:
one last query that i got is about :

http://www.evga.com/products/moreinfo.asp?pn=03G-P3-159...

it says : Requirements
Minimum of a 700 Watt power supply.
(Minimum recommended power supply with +12 Volt current rating of 50 Amps.)
Two 8-pin PCI Express power connectors or four available 6-pin PCI Express power connectors

so will the hx650w be able to run it? alongside build #1 & #2 ?
[umm i really dont think i can afford the gfx card right now .. but maybe a couple of months later if i get a good exchange deal who knows :)  ] ..
just tryin to be future-ready .. for next 7years [lol the longest warranty period ive ever seen]


oops .. forgot 1 more thing :
for running just 1display [24" ] nvidia is preffered over radeon right? since wont be needing eyeinfinity?

So why are you now considering a GeForce GTX 590 water cooled graphics card when all you mention previously was the GeForce GTX 580?

The GeForce GTX 590 is a dual-GPU graphics card and it does require a power supply unit with more capacity.

The Corsair Professional HX650W (CMPSU-650HX) should, in theory, be able to run it. I'd suggest at least the Corsair Professional HX750W (CMPSU-750HX) for that graphics card just to ensure that there is a more comfortable reserve available.

Computer cases are a personal choice. If you like your current case and it provides adequate cooling then keep it.

I prefer to have my power supply draw in cool air from outside of the case instead of drawing in warmed air that is inside the case. Cases with a bottom mount power supply usually allow for this configuration so that the power supply's cooling airflow is isolated from the cases internal air flow.
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November 25, 2011 3:17:32 AM

I would definatly not use the 590 with that psu,I would use at least an 850 w.

bigger/psu=less heat

running a 650 at all most max all the time will generate big gobs of heat and will dergrade sooner.

The corsair HX850 would be an ok choice.
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November 25, 2011 3:58:18 PM

Don't go cheap. If you buy a $70 PSU and it takes down a $700 video card due to insufficient power damage you will be sad.
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November 26, 2011 8:06:49 AM

Best answer selected by dracx333.
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November 26, 2011 8:10:08 AM

ko888 said:
So why are you now considering a GeForce GTX 590 water cooled graphics card when all you mention previously was the GeForce GTX 580?

The GeForce GTX 590 is a dual-GPU graphics card and it does require a power supply unit with more capacity.

The Corsair Professional HX650W (CMPSU-650HX) should, in theory, be able to run it. I'd suggest at least the Corsair Professional HX750W (CMPSU-750HX) for that graphics card just to ensure that there is a more comfortable reserve available.

Computer cases are a personal choice. If you like your current case and it provides adequate cooling then keep it.

I prefer to have my power supply draw in cool air from outside of the case instead of drawing in warmed air that is inside the case. Cases with a bottom mount power supply usually allow for this configuration so that the power supply's cooling airflow is isolated from the cases internal air flow.



yes i'd be going with the HX 750 [wow @ 7yrs warranty ] ...

thanks a lot guyz

much appreciated.. was really confused

^_^

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