Why I love digital

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My 7D was waiting for me when I got home from work Friday. I took it out of
the box and knew I was going to love this camera. But looking at all the
buttons dials, knobs and little hidden gizmos on it, I figured I'd be
playing with it at least a couple of weeks just to get the basics. The
reviews all said it was easier than it looks, and they were right. After
some backyard shots to see what it would do and figuring out how to put
settings into its memory, I went out today and shot 104 pix from the air to
see how it handled and how the anti shake worked. Got a good day for it.
Mostly clear with a little haze, but not bad and just enough wind to make
things a little bumpy down low.

The great thing about digital-Get home, plug the card into the PC and view
away, while the conditions are fresh in my memory. Don't worry about
shooting a partial roll. No drive to the photo finisher. No drive back to
pick up the prints. Anything I want to blow up-at least to 8x10-I can do
right at home. (BTW-I have a darkroom for both BW and color. This is much
more fun.)

Out of 104 shots there were maybe a half dozen that were too blurred to use,
but I knew I was getting bounced too much for any stabilization system to
take it out. The shutter fires the instant you push it and the antishake
takes out all but the worst bumps.

If I ever figure out how to put up a halfway decent website, I'll post some.
This camera brings back the parts I missed about my Nikon 8008s, and it does
pretty much everything better than even that camera.

There are still a lot of options I've got to check out, but basic operation
with a lot of flexibility can be mastered in a couple of hours.

OK UC. I know you're out there.

mike

P.S. Oh yeah. I ended up getting it from ibuydigital.com. A&M sux.

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mike regish wrote:
> My 7D was waiting for me when I got home from work Friday. I took it out of
> the box and knew I was going to love this camera. But looking at all the
> buttons dials, knobs and little hidden gizmos on it, I figured I'd be
> playing with it at least a couple of weeks just to get the basics. The
> reviews all said it was easier than it looks, and they were right. After
> some backyard shots to see what it would do and figuring out how to put
> settings into its memory, I went out today and shot 104 pix from the air to
> see how it handled and how the anti shake worked. Got a good day for it.
> Mostly clear with a little haze, but not bad and just enough wind to make
> things a little bumpy down low.
>
> The great thing about digital-Get home, plug the card into the PC and view
> away, while the conditions are fresh in my memory. Don't worry about
> shooting a partial roll. No drive to the photo finisher. No drive back to
> pick up the prints. Anything I want to blow up-at least to 8x10-I can do
> right at home. (BTW-I have a darkroom for both BW and color. This is much
> more fun.)
>
> Out of 104 shots there were maybe a half dozen that were too blurred to use,
> but I knew I was getting bounced too much for any stabilization system to
> take it out. The shutter fires the instant you push it and the antishake
> takes out all but the worst bumps.
>
> If I ever figure out how to put up a halfway decent website, I'll post some.
> This camera brings back the parts I missed about my Nikon 8008s, and it does
> pretty much everything better than even that camera.
>
> There are still a lot of options I've got to check out, but basic operation
> with a lot of flexibility can be mastered in a couple of hours.
>
> OK UC. I know you're out there.
>
> mike
>
> P.S. Oh yeah. I ended up getting it from ibuydigital.com. A&M sux.
>
>

Don't forget one of the best features of digital for learning, the EXIF
data to tell you WHY your picture didn't look like it should!


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Ron Hunter wrote:
> Scott W wrote:
>> Hey Mike,
>>
>> It sounds like you are having a great time with you camera.
>>
>> So when you were shooting from the air where you the one flying?
>>
>> There are a lot of places that can host photo, each person seems to
>> have the own favorite, I use Pbase.com, $23/year for 200MB of
>> storage. Pbase pretty much does everything for you and is very easy
>> to use. Scott
>>
> Wouldn't work well for me as 200 meg wouldn't be nearly enough!
> I do like their quality, however.

Smugmug.com is 30/year, no ads, and unlimited space for your photos; you
don't have to resize them to upload them. You can look in the domain of my
(real) email address; it links to my smugmug site. I don't claim top photog
skills but I do love the unlimited feature of smugmug.

---
Michelle
(SeaShel)

free the fish to reply

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mike regish wrote:
> My 7D was waiting for me when I got home from work Friday. I took it out of
> the box and knew I was going to love this camera. But looking at all the
> buttons dials, knobs and little hidden gizmos on it, I figured I'd be
> playing with it at least a couple of weeks just to get the basics. The
> reviews all said it was easier than it looks, and they were right. After
> some backyard shots to see what it would do and figuring out how to put
> settings into its memory, I went out today and shot 104 pix from the air to
> see how it handled and how the anti shake worked. Got a good day for it.
> Mostly clear with a little haze, but not bad and just enough wind to make
> things a little bumpy down low.
>
> The great thing about digital-Get home, plug the card into the PC and view
> away, while the conditions are fresh in my memory. Don't worry about
> shooting a partial roll. No drive to the photo finisher. No drive back to
> pick up the prints. Anything I want to blow up-at least to 8x10-I can do
> right at home. (BTW-I have a darkroom for both BW and color. This is much
> more fun.)
>
> Out of 104 shots there were maybe a half dozen that were too blurred to use,
> but I knew I was getting bounced too much for any stabilization system to
> take it out. The shutter fires the instant you push it and the antishake
> takes out all but the worst bumps.
>
> If I ever figure out how to put up a halfway decent website, I'll post some.
> This camera brings back the parts I missed about my Nikon 8008s, and it does
> pretty much everything better than even that camera.
>
> There are still a lot of options I've got to check out, but basic operation
> with a lot of flexibility can be mastered in a couple of hours.
>
> OK UC. I know you're out there.
>
> mike
>
> P.S. Oh yeah. I ended up getting it from ibuydigital.com. A&M sux.
>
>
Great camera ike. I've had mine a couple of months now. If you plan on
using it with the 5600HS flash you will have to send them both in to the
techs to get the Pre-Flash adjusted.

Alan

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"Ron Hunter" <rphunter@charter.net> wrote in message
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>>
>>
>
> Don't forget one of the best features of digital for learning, the EXIF
> data to tell you WHY your picture didn't look like it should!

What's EXIF? All the exposure info, I'm guessing? That IS great on this
camera. My Canon had very little info.

mike

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That sux. I noticed the little cap for the flash doesn't come off readily. I
won't force it and I haven't read through the whole manual yet, but I was
planning on getting a better flash for it as the one on it seems pretty
weak. What do you mean by "techs"? Does it have to go back to the
manufacturer?

Also, I got kind of a scare the first couple of times I used the flash. It
kind of makes a sound like electrical arcing, but I think it's just the
sound it makes for the preflash. Is that what yours does, too? And is that a
programmed camera sound or just the sound of the capacitor?

mike

"retoohs" <AL.KERR@xtra.co.nz> wrote in message
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> Great camera ike. I've had mine a couple of months now. If you plan on
> using it with the 5600HS flash you will have to send them both in to the
> techs to get the Pre-Flash adjusted.
>
> Alan
>

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You'd be surprised (I know I was) at how simple the menu navigation and
intuitiveness is on this camera. Like I say, it looked daunting when I first
looked at it, but I'm already fairly proficient with it and I've had it less
than 2 days. And I'm not a real quick study, either. :-)

I got to pick up a Canon rebel when they first came out and I was surprised
at how light it was. I know most people probably prefer a lightweight
camera, but I like something with some weight to it and the 7D has some. It
just feels solid. I think that hanging it around my neck with the relatively
narrow strap will get uncomfortable after a couple of hours, but I will
either get a wider strap or a cushion for it. The handgrip has finger
contours and a textured rubber that just fits perfectly in the hand. All the
buttons you might need for shooting are right where your fingers can get
them. The dial controls on top have a locking button that you have to press
in order to turn them. I think I could live without these as you're unlikely
to turn them unintentionally, but this is about the only thing that's the
least bit clumsy on the camera. I also wish the strap had hooks because I
found that picking up the camera in the plane, I had to be careful to grab
it under the strap to get a good grip. I'd like to be able to remove and
replace it easier, but that's minor. I'll get used to it.

I noticed the price on the 6 meg Canon came down a lot. If this camera
hadn't come out with the anti shake, I would have gotten the Rebel, but for
aerial stuff that antishake is priceless. I was getting good shots with the
lens out to about 70 or 80 mm (105 to 120 equivalent) even in slightly bumpy
air. In calm conditions I have no doubt I can get the lens all the way out
to 105.

mike

"Andy" <andy@xxx.invalidcom> wrote in message
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>
>
> This is why I chose Canon. It is easy tool for taking professional
> pictures. Nikon looks like a kiddie toy.
>

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Siggy wrote:
> Ron Hunter wrote:
>
>>Don't forget one of the best features of digital for learning, the
>>EXIF data to tell you WHY your picture didn't look like it should!
>
>
> Histogram?
>
>
No, the EXIF data is all about camera settings, not image content.


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mike regish wrote:
> "Ron Hunter" <rphunter@charter.net> wrote in message
> news:R0u1e.956$rq3.521@fe02.lga...
>
>>>
>>Don't forget one of the best features of digital for learning, the EXIF
>>data to tell you WHY your picture didn't look like it should!
>
>
> What's EXIF? All the exposure info, I'm guessing? That IS great on this
> camera. My Canon had very little info.
>
> mike
>
>
EXIF is basically a record of the camera settings, manual and automatic,
for each picture, along with the exact time of the picture (assuming you
keep the clock set correctly).



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mike regish wrote:
> You'd be surprised (I know I was) at how simple the menu navigation and
> intuitiveness is on this camera. Like I say, it looked daunting when I first
> looked at it, but I'm already fairly proficient with it and I've had it less
> than 2 days. And I'm not a real quick study, either. :-)
>
> I got to pick up a Canon rebel when they first came out and I was surprised
> at how light it was. I know most people probably prefer a lightweight
> camera, but I like something with some weight to it and the 7D has some. It
> just feels solid. I think that hanging it around my neck with the relatively
> narrow strap will get uncomfortable after a couple of hours, but I will
> either get a wider strap or a cushion for it. The handgrip has finger
> contours and a textured rubber that just fits perfectly in the hand. All the
> buttons you might need for shooting are right where your fingers can get
> them. The dial controls on top have a locking button that you have to press
> in order to turn them. I think I could live without these as you're unlikely
> to turn them unintentionally, but this is about the only thing that's the
> least bit clumsy on the camera. I also wish the strap had hooks because I
> found that picking up the camera in the plane, I had to be careful to grab
> it under the strap to get a good grip. I'd like to be able to remove and
> replace it easier, but that's minor. I'll get used to it.
>
> I noticed the price on the 6 meg Canon came down a lot. If this camera
> hadn't come out with the anti shake, I would have gotten the Rebel, but for
> aerial stuff that antishake is priceless. I was getting good shots with the
> lens out to about 70 or 80 mm (105 to 120 equivalent) even in slightly bumpy
> air. In calm conditions I have no doubt I can get the lens all the way out
> to 105.
>
> mike
>

I never have been able to deal with a neckstrap. For one thing, it
makes me feel hot all the time, and for another, I can't imagine hanging
a camera around my neck so that any time I bend forward to look as
something, the lens of the camera slams into whatever is below my
head... That's one reason I won't buy a camera I can't pocket.



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That's what I thought. I was really impressed with all the info it displays.
That helps a WHOLE lot when experimenting with different settings. I used to
try to keep a written log with film, but that was a total pain.

And yes, the first thing I did was set the date/time. :-)

mike

"Ron Hunter" <rphunter@charter.net> wrote in message
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>>
> EXIF is basically a record of the camera settings, manual and automatic,
> for each picture, along with the exact time of the picture (assuming you
> keep the clock set correctly).
>
>
>
> --
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It is clutzy for a while, but you get used to it. When I'm at an airshow or
some all day event, it's much easier to hang it, but you do have to be aware
that it's there. I guess that's another reason I like the weight.

mike

"Ron Hunter" <rphunter@charter.net> wrote in message
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>
> I never have been able to deal with a neckstrap. For one thing, it makes
> me feel hot all the time, and for another, I can't imagine hanging a
> camera around my neck so that any time I bend forward to look as
> something, the lens of the camera slams into whatever is below my head...
> That's one reason I won't buy a camera I can't pocket.
>
>
>
> --
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mike regish wrote:
> "Scott W" <biphoto@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1111898096.345818.94870@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> > Hey Mike,
> >
> > It sounds like you are having a great time with you camera.
>
> I love it. I'll be having a ball learning all the little things it
can do.
> >
> > So when you were shooting from the air where you the one flying?
>
> Yep. I've got a nice stable plane with a little window I can flip
down and
> stick the lens out. It pretty much flies hands off even in somewhat
bumpy
> air.

Neat,
Here is a photo I took just over 20 years ago, from an ultra-Light I
was flying.
http://www.pbase.com/konascott/image/41292158/original
There were no windows to worry about, but the ultra-light did not fly
itself and my camera took two hands to use, you would kind of see the
ground coming up through the view finder.

The problem was if you let go of the controls the engine would throttle
back to an idle and you would start gliding down.

I would have loved to have had a digital camera while I was still
flying that thing.

I will love to see you photos when you get some up loaded.

Scott

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mike regish wrote:

> That sux. I noticed the little cap for the flash doesn't come off readily. I
> won't force it and I haven't read through the whole manual yet, but I was
> planning on getting a better flash for it as the one on it seems pretty
> weak. What do you mean by "techs"? Does it have to go back to the
> manufacturer?
>
> Also, I got kind of a scare the first couple of times I used the flash. It
> kind of makes a sound like electrical arcing, but I think it's just the
> sound it makes for the preflash. Is that what yours does, too? And is that a
> programmed camera sound or just the sound of the capacitor?

The preflash makes a little 'tic' noise.

Don't worry about removing the cap. It takes a strong shove.

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Ron Hunter wrote:

> Siggy wrote:
>
>> Ron Hunter wrote:
>>
>>> Don't forget one of the best features of digital for learning,
>>> the EXIF data to tell you WHY your picture didn't look like it
>>> should!
>>
>>
>>
>> Histogram?
>>
> No, the EXIF data is all about camera settings, not image content.

He meant looking at the histogram after a shot to verify
placement as an aid to learning.

Also, in RAW import you can get the histogram, and in PS viewing a
reasonable facimile of it if you captured in RAW.


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On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 21:58:58 -0500, "mike regish" <mregish@comcast.net>
wrote:

>[snip]
>The great thing about digital-Get home, plug the card into the PC and view
>away, while the conditions are fresh in my memory. Don't worry about
>shooting a partial roll. No drive to the photo finisher. No drive back to
>pick up the prints. Anything I want to blow up-at least to 8x10-I can do
>right at home. (BTW-I have a darkroom for both BW and color. This is much
>more fun.)
>[snip]

One of the first things I did when I got my first digital camera 6 years
ago was to do a COMPLETE photo survey of my parent's home inside and
out. This means that I shot each room from every angle, as well as
every shelf, closet, hanging picture, painting, and nick-knack on the
wall, as well as numerous exterior views.

This photo survey serves multiple purposes:

1. As documentation in case anything is ever stolen.

2. As a reminder of things we may have once had but can't seem to locate
anymore.

3. Memories...My father only had 6 pictures of the back woods cabin he
grew up in. All of them taken from the same side of the house. I have
always been disappointed that he didn't have more pictures. I'm making
sure that that doesn't happen with their current home of the past 40
years. That first survey taken 6 years ago totaled about 500 pictures.
Now I think that its about time to do another similar survey. I will
include detailed pictures of the neighborhood also.

This is something that I would never even have thought about doing with
a film camera! Too expensive!

Gary Edstrom
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Nice shot. I started out in hang gliders and had an ultralight for a few
years. My ultralight would have been tough to shoot from because your right
out there in the wind and it was also out of rig so I couldn't let go of the
stick without going into a diving right turn.

There's a twin engine 2 seat ultralight (experimental, really since an
ultralight can legally have only 1 seat) that is specifically built for
photography. You sit way out front adn have a clear view all around. You
heave to lean out a little to get straight down, but not much.

mike

"Scott W" <biphoto@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> Neat,
> Here is a photo I took just over 20 years ago, from an ultra-Light I
> was flying.
> http://www.pbase.com/konascott/image/41292158/original
> There were no windows to worry about, but the ultra-light did not fly
> itself and my camera took two hands to use, you would kind of see the
> ground coming up through the view finder.
>
> The problem was if you let go of the controls the engine would throttle
> back to an idle and you would start gliding down.
>
> I would have loved to have had a digital camera while I was still
> flying that thing.
>
> I will love to see you photos when you get some up loaded.
>
> Scott
>

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In message <1111898096.345818.94870@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
"Scott W" <biphoto@hotmail.com> wrote:

>There are a lot of places that can host photo, each person seems to
>have the own favorite, I use Pbase.com, $23/year for 200MB of storage.
> Pbase pretty much does everything for you and is very easy to use.

I believe that pbase has actually changed their pricing structure, so
that the less of your allocated space that you use, the longer you can
go without paying again.
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><<> <>>< <>>< ><<> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>><

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On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 08:04:32 -0600, Ron Hunter <rphunter@charter.net>
wrote:

>I never have been able to deal with a neckstrap. For one thing, it
>makes me feel hot all the time, and for another, I can't imagine hanging
>a camera around my neck so that any time I bend forward to look as
>something, the lens of the camera slams into whatever is below my
>head... That's one reason I won't buy a camera I can't pocket.

Try Lowepro's neoprene strap - very cool (temperature-wise). I wear it
around my neck and one arm. It naturally gets cupped into one hand
while I walk or bend down to do anything.


--
Alex
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mike regish wrote:

> Chimping?


Looking at the monitor 'tween shots to verify histo, composition, "got
it"-ness, etc. Abuse runs down batteries, but can also result in files
being deleted out of sheer embarrasment.

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On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 02:20:00 -0600, in rec.photo.digital , Ron Hunter
<rphunter@charter.net> in <R0u1e.956$rq3.521@fe02.lga> wrote:

>mike regish wrote:
>> My 7D was waiting for me when I got home from work Friday. I took it out of
>> the box and knew I was going to love this camera. But looking at all the
>> buttons dials, knobs and little hidden gizmos on it, I figured I'd be
>> playing with it at least a couple of weeks just to get the basics. The
>> reviews all said it was easier than it looks, and they were right. After
>> some backyard shots to see what it would do and figuring out how to put
>> settings into its memory, I went out today and shot 104 pix from the air to
>> see how it handled and how the anti shake worked. Got a good day for it.
>> Mostly clear with a little haze, but not bad and just enough wind to make
>> things a little bumpy down low.
>>
>> The great thing about digital-Get home, plug the card into the PC and view
>> away, while the conditions are fresh in my memory. Don't worry about
>> shooting a partial roll. No drive to the photo finisher. No drive back to
>> pick up the prints. Anything I want to blow up-at least to 8x10-I can do
>> right at home. (BTW-I have a darkroom for both BW and color. This is much
>> more fun.)
>>
>> Out of 104 shots there were maybe a half dozen that were too blurred to use,
>> but I knew I was getting bounced too much for any stabilization system to
>> take it out. The shutter fires the instant you push it and the antishake
>> takes out all but the worst bumps.
>>
>> If I ever figure out how to put up a halfway decent website, I'll post some.
>> This camera brings back the parts I missed about my Nikon 8008s, and it does
>> pretty much everything better than even that camera.
>>
>> There are still a lot of options I've got to check out, but basic operation
>> with a lot of flexibility can be mastered in a couple of hours.
>>
>> OK UC. I know you're out there.
>>
>> mike
>>
>> P.S. Oh yeah. I ended up getting it from ibuydigital.com. A&M sux.
>>
>>
>
>Don't forget one of the best features of digital for learning, the EXIF
>data to tell you WHY your picture didn't look like it should!

Does EXIF have a "How stupid am I field"? If not, I don't know that it
can tell me all about why my pictures don't look right.



--
Matt Silberstein

All in all, if I could be any animal, I would want to be
a duck or a goose. They can fly, walk, and swim. Plus,
there there is a certain satisfaction knowing that at the
end of your life you will taste good with an orange sauce
or, in the case of a goose, a chestnut stuffing.

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On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 08:04:32 -0600, in rec.photo.digital , Ron Hunter
<rphunter@charter.net> in <R3z1e.10402$Lf7.7616@fe06.lga> wrote:

[snip]

>I never have been able to deal with a neckstrap. For one thing, it
>makes me feel hot all the time, and for another, I can't imagine hanging
>a camera around my neck so that any time I bend forward to look as
>something, the lens of the camera slams into whatever is below my
>head... That's one reason I won't buy a camera I can't pocket.

I don't share your view, but I understand it. I just got back from a
trip to Costa Rica (fewer good pictures than the last trip, but better
hiking). I had my camera, my sunglasses, my binoculars, and my hat
with strings around my neck. And my backpack. On a hike like that I
would want the camera clipped to something, the time to get the
picture can be very short. But a small camera could have been clipped
to a vest or the backpack I suppose.

And, yes, my neck was very sore at the end of the day. But I did get
to see lots of monkeys and have one or two good shots of them.


--
Matt Silberstein

All in all, if I could be any animal, I would want to be
a duck or a goose. They can fly, walk, and swim. Plus,
there there is a certain satisfaction knowing that at the
end of your life you will taste good with an orange sauce
or, in the case of a goose, a chestnut stuffing.

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"mike regish" <mregish@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:4vadnSYeZ_lwI9vfRVn-sg@comcast.com...
> I usually resize mine to 800x600 jpegs at 72 dpi. You can get quite a few
in
> 10 megs that way.
>
> mike


<nitpick> Of course, an 800x600 pixel jpeg at 72 dpi will be the same size
as an 800x600 pixel jpeg at 300 dpi :-) </nitpick>

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Alan Browne wrote:
> Ron Hunter wrote:
>
>> Siggy wrote:
>>
>>> Ron Hunter wrote:
>>>
>>>> Don't forget one of the best features of digital for learning,
>>>> the EXIF data to tell you WHY your picture didn't look like it
>>>> should!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Histogram?
>>>
>> No, the EXIF data is all about camera settings, not image content.
>
>
> He meant looking at the histogram after a shot to verify
> placement as an aid to learning.
>
> Also, in RAW import you can get the histogram, and in PS viewing a
> reasonable facimile of it if you captured in RAW.
>
>
Many programs will provide a histogram of the image. This is NOT what
EXIF does, but it certainly is useful, for those who understand what it
means.


--
Ron Hunter rphunter@charter.net

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mike regish wrote:
> That's what I thought. I was really impressed with all the info it displays.
> That helps a WHOLE lot when experimenting with different settings. I used to
> try to keep a written log with film, but that was a total pain.
>
> And yes, the first thing I did was set the date/time. :-)
>
> mike
>
> "Ron Hunter" <rphunter@charter.net> wrote in message
> news:X0z1e.10401$Lf7.1438@fe06.lga...
>
>>EXIF is basically a record of the camera settings, manual and automatic,
>>for each picture, along with the exact time of the picture (assuming you
>>keep the clock set correctly).
>>
>>
>>
>>--
>>Ron Hunter rphunter@charter.net
>
>
>
Keep an eye on it. Most camera clocks aren't all that accurate.


--
Ron Hunter rphunter@charter.net