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Hi

I've just tried setting the brightness up on my iiyama 413 monitor using the
instructions on AIM:
http://www.aim-dtp.net/aim/
Unless I'm misreading the instructions given, I get a far too dark a picture
where shadow detail is lost. The problem seems to be the advice to set the
blackpoint to virtually pure black as contrasted against the monitor's
surrounding mask. I contend that my monitor & no doubt most others just
don't have the brightness range to use this method!

If I use the Gamma chart method that appears to be the standard, the
black-point gets set much higher which results in a solely black screen
being slightly grey looking. As soon as other brightness levels are viewed
such as photographs or a normal desktop the eye/brain renders these less
than black areas as black.

Unfortunately, I've come unstuck in the past with these settings. I can
remember checking my colour temp was set to 6500k late one night. The next
morning, I thought my monitor looked a bit dim but forgot about it. I
preceded to edit some photos & thought at the back of my mind that something
seemed different but beyond being able to pin it down. When I compared
pictures previewed on my Olympus C4040, they seemed far punchier than when
viewed on my monitor. The penny eventually dropped when I rechecked the
brightness settings on my monitor - resetting the colour temp from 6500 (it
was already correct) to 6500 also resets the brightness to the default 50%
instead of ~74% that I'd previously set it to.

The moral here is to not necessarily to believe what you read on certain
sites & to be aware of how your monitor controls interact with each other. I
now tend to check both white & black parts of an important image being
edited by reading their respective values - very handy when ambient light
levels are high such as during a sunny day.

--
Why do CRT monitors have contrast controls when all the advice I've read
suggests setting them to 100%?

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Paul Busby wrote:
[]
> The moral here is to not necessarily to believe what you read on
> certain sites & to be aware of how your monitor controls interact
> with each other. I now tend to check both white & black parts of an
> important image being edited by reading their respective values -
> very handy when ambient light levels are high such as during a sunny
> day.

I recommend the chart at the top of:

http://www.jasc.com/support/kb/articles/monitor.asp

and not making any attempt at setting the gamma. This is under Windows.

Cheers,
David

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Thus spake David J Taylor:
> Paul Busby wrote:
> []
>> The moral here is to not necessarily to believe what you read on
>> certain sites & to be aware of how your monitor controls interact
>> with each other. I now tend to check both white & black parts of an
>> important image being edited by reading their respective values -
>> very handy when ambient light levels are high such as during a sunny
>> day.
>
> I recommend the chart at the top of:
>
> http://www.jasc.com/support/kb/articles/monitor.asp
>
> and not making any attempt at setting the gamma. This is under
> Windows.

I recommend it too. My Gamma comes out at 2.60 - very slightly higher than
recommended. The AIM method results in high shadow detail compression. If
using the Gamma method:
http://www.normankoren.com/makingf [...] st_pattern
seems to be comprehensive.

--
I set my monitor up using its own controls rather than within the photo
editing or graphics card s/w using 6500k as the CT. Pictures viewed either
from my editing app or Windows viewer look virtually identical.

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From what I can gather, listening to the real experts on Photo Manipulation.

The Contrast Control on your Monitor is misnamed, it really controls the
Whitepoint.
The Brightness Control controls the Blackpoint.

The Colour Temp control should only make a very small reduction to the
screen brightness.

Almost all photo manipulation programs, at least the Colour Managed ones
like Photo Shop, all advise setting the Monitor to 6500K as the first step
in calibrating the screen so that WYSIWYG.

Roy G

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"Paul Busby" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
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> Thus spake David J Taylor:
>> Paul Busby wrote:
>> []
>>> The moral here is to not necessarily to believe what you read on
>>> certain sites & to be aware of how your monitor controls interact
>>> with each other. I now tend to check both white & black parts of an
>>> important image being edited by reading their respective values -
>>> very handy when ambient light levels are high such as during a sunny
>>> day.
>>
>> I recommend the chart at the top of:
>>
>> http://www.jasc.com/support/kb/articles/monitor.asp
>>
>> and not making any attempt at setting the gamma. This is under
>> Windows.
>
> I recommend it too. My Gamma comes out at 2.60 - very slightly higher than
> recommended. The AIM method results in high shadow detail compression. If
> using the Gamma method:
> http://www.normankoren.com/makingf [...] st_pattern
> seems to be comprehensive.
>
> --
> I set my monitor up using its own controls rather than within the photo
> editing or graphics card s/w using 6500k as the CT. Pictures viewed either
> from my editing app or Windows viewer look virtually identical.
>

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