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Phenom II X4 955 be VS Phenom II X6 1100t vs Intel Core i3-2100

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November 26, 2011 2:49:36 AM

mostly doing gaming , which one? x4 $104 1100 $169 i3 $109

hd radeon 6870
700 w PSU
21 inch monitor 1080p

gaming,surfing,video editing

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November 26, 2011 3:00:27 AM

video editing, it would be phenom II x6

gaming wise they all are in the same ballpark, the i3-2100 would probably win in the majority of games but not by night and day figures.
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November 26, 2011 3:31:12 AM

Just checked some benches, and for all encoding/editing/rendering/etc, the 1100 beats the 2100. However, in games, they are neck to neck and in some cases the 2100 beats the 1100. In all other benches, it appears they are relatively close, beating each other back and forth by a little.

The i3 2100 does much better against the 955. It beats it nearly all benchmarks, save for encoding and what not (which is due to it's extra 2 cores). In games though, they are either matched in FPS, or the 2100 beats it.

i3 VS 1100T - http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/203?vs=289
i3 VS X4 955 - http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/88?vs=289
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November 26, 2011 3:34:31 AM

its not possible to overclock the 2100?
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November 26, 2011 3:54:48 AM

No, it isn't. Only the K designated processors from Intel can be overclocked (IE: 2500K, 2600K, 3930K...)
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November 26, 2011 4:40:55 AM

overclocked the x4 will beat i3?
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November 26, 2011 5:43:16 AM

I wouldn't know. Over clocking isn't exactly give linear performance gains. Nonetheless, the X4 is already faster than the i3, but still loses in a majority of the benches. I'm not familiar with exactly how high it tends to overclock, but I suppose a mild overclock to 3.6 GHz should close the gap pretty well.
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November 26, 2011 7:21:00 AM

things ARE and things are getting more multi threaded. I'd get the 6 core.
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November 26, 2011 7:30:31 AM

for both 3 things you ask video editing,games and surfing

6core is the best choice if you have budget buy it but dont buy x4 or i3

buy i5 or i7 if you are not buying 6 core
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November 26, 2011 8:02:28 AM

argueta789 said:
mostly doing gaming , which one? x4 $104 1100 $169 i3 $109

hd radeon 6870
700 w PSU
21 inch monitor 1080p

gaming,surfing,video editing

if you have an am3+ motherboard with 990fx or 990x chipset, get the 1100t, oc it with a good cooler. imo at $169 it's a better buy than fx 6xxx cpu.
if you go intel way, a core i5 2500k with z68 mobo.
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November 26, 2011 8:30:15 AM

argueta789 said:
overclocked the x4 will beat i3?

sometimes yes, in games that are well designed to use 4 cores. For most games, it takes an OC'd pII x 4 to keep up with the i3. Not to mention if you get the i3 you have a great upgrade path to an i5/i7 later. With AMD, you have no better options than the x4 for gaming. The FX chips are gay for gaming. I would go for the i3 2100/2120 for better stock performance (gaming), lower power consumption and upgradeability.
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November 26, 2011 1:14:10 PM

iam2thecrowe said:
sometimes yes, in games that are well designed to use 4 cores. For most games, it takes an OC'd pII x 4 to keep up with the i3. Not to mention if you get the i3 you have a great upgrade path to an i5/i7 later. With AMD, you have no better options than the x4 for gaming. The FX chips are gay for gaming. I would go for the i3 2100/2120 for better stock performance (gaming), lower power consumption and upgradeability.


+1

in fact the phenom II x4 often beat the phenom II x6 (pointless CPUs) in gaming since they have higher clocks in the former (the latter are often clocked slower). at equal clocks they give you the exact same performance since just about every game still only use 2-4 cores and will until new consoles come out.
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November 26, 2011 2:33:52 PM

i mean if i buy the i3 , then i save 25$ because i wont have to buy cooler
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November 26, 2011 2:46:49 PM

i3 2100
BIOSTAR H67MU3 LGA 1155
Radeon HD 6870
700 W Psu
8gb Memory

could run modern games?
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November 26, 2011 3:10:11 PM

argueta789 said:
i3 2100
BIOSTAR H67MU3 LGA 1155
Radeon HD 6870
700 W Psu
8gb Memory

could run modern games?

in short, yes it could.
but, with a core i3 + h67 combo you lose overclockability, aes-ni.
with the motherboard you lose ram upgrade (2 slots already filled by the 2x 4gb dimms, but most games and apps hardly use more than 4 gb), dual gfx cfx/sli, imo the ram slots' placement is a bit weird and might block upward heat flow. and i hope your gfx card doesn't interfere with the analog jacks and the sata ports. but i have no experience with this motherboard ,so i cannot verify this.
for video editing you should benefit from more cpu cores(4+) and system ram(16+ gb).
for this setup the 700w psu might be a bit overkill.
see if any of
these or these fit your needs better.
you could specify your current specs and budget in the new build form.
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November 26, 2011 4:13:31 PM

argueta789 said:
i3 2100
BIOSTAR H67MU3 LGA 1155
Radeon HD 6870
700 W Psu
8gb Memory

could run modern games?


yes you will have no issue, the PSU is overkill unless you want to CF a second 6870 later on
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November 27, 2011 3:57:43 AM

the psu was on sale for 45$ thats y i bought it , will it be a problem , also what mother board would u recommend in the 90ish area?
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November 27, 2011 6:37:05 AM

go with a z68 board, not h67. Dont go with a H series motherboard if your using a dedicated vid card.
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November 27, 2011 4:45:23 PM

what i dont get is how does the x4 which is 4 cores , gets outbeat by the i3 which is only two cores?
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November 27, 2011 5:23:32 PM

argueta789 said:
what i dont get is how does the x4 which is 4 cores , gets outbeat by the i3 which is only two cores?


because those two cores can work much faster and use a technology that can mimic 4 cores (hyper-threading)

think of two construction sites where one uses two heavy duty dump trucks while the other uses four pick up trucks.

even though both have trucks and the former has two to the latter's four, two dump trucks will move a lot more load then four pick up trucks.
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November 27, 2011 7:17:16 PM

argueta789 said:
Great example ferret thanks , i understand now so amd's architecture is not up to par with intel? and out of these memory which one would u take?

Crucial Ballistix 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Patriot G series ‘Sector 5’ Edition 8GB : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Kingston HyperX 8GB : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


get the cheapest one, those brands don't actually make their own memory. They simply re-brand memory from a handful of suppliers. ive used crucial ballsitix in one of my builds, they work fine.
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November 27, 2011 7:18:48 PM

@Iam2thecrowe
I am curious, why can he not go with H67 if he is using a dedicated video card? it makes no difference. Since he doesnt need to overclock and most likely wont use the z68's features an H67 board is perfectly fine, and itll save you some money.

I would buy the i3-2100 or the i5-2400
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

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November 27, 2011 9:05:11 PM

1333 is 6 dollara cheaper as i seen that 2100 only supports 1333? would there be a big difference between the two?

eam Elite 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 27.99
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November 27, 2011 10:01:41 PM

that mobo will work fine
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November 27, 2011 10:04:02 PM

it would, but I would buy a better brand to be honest. like gigabyte, asrock, asus, msi etc.
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November 27, 2011 10:43:41 PM

as rock is great , i need a pci slot for a wireless adapter i have , also would you guys still go with the 6870 over the gtx 460?
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November 27, 2011 10:46:38 PM

the GTX460 competes against the AMD 6850

so the 6870 would be an upgrade if you can afford it, as is the GTX460 is a very good card for gaming.
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November 27, 2011 11:00:27 PM

i can afford both the 6870 is even 10$ less , could i maybe save some money and maybe purchase a cheaper card as i am not think of playing crysis or anything to that extent , probably the most demanding game i would play is mw3
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November 27, 2011 11:15:07 PM

Stick with the 6870 it's a great card. If you can find a 6850 for alot cheaper then go for that, it has huge overclocking headroom and can easily close the gap between it and the 6870.
I wouldnt buy anything cheaper than those cards.
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November 27, 2011 11:36:29 PM

it doesnt matter, for 1155 H67 you should get a 1333 8gb (2 x 4gb) kit at 1.5volts or less
anything matching those specs or better would work
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November 27, 2011 11:52:43 PM

alrite thanks, also i wont fry my motherboard or anything by using a 700w ocz modxstream psu?
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November 28, 2011 12:29:14 AM

Lol no bro you cant fry your motherboard with too much power, only with a bad PSU, you should be fine
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November 28, 2011 12:44:03 AM

lol thanks b , just making sure lmao
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November 28, 2011 1:28:59 AM

haha no worries man
I hope everything works out! ask if you got anymore questions for sure
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November 28, 2011 2:16:51 AM

I've also been looking at the phenom x4, I'm rather computer noobie I'm currently running off a dual core and looking to upgrade, can anyone help me on what I should go for?

I found these on newegg:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

To a computer novice like myself they all look identical, and the mobos are different. Is there any marginal difference between them? I would have to buy ddr3 and a heat sync, but any input on these package deals?

ps: Sorry if it seems like I'm hyjacking the threat I just saw a similar processor of the one I'm looking to buy! Didn't want to make a new thread.
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November 28, 2011 2:19:25 AM

based off of those choices, the first simply because it isn't micro ATX. I am not a fan of micro ATX personally.
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November 28, 2011 2:25:51 AM

for me it has to be because i am using my old case which is micro atx form factor
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November 28, 2011 2:34:18 AM

ND505 said:
I've also been looking at the phenom x4, I'm rather computer noobie I'm currently running off a dual core and looking to upgrade, can anyone help me on what I should go for?

I found these on newegg:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

To a computer novice like myself they all look identical, and the mobos are different. Is there any marginal difference between them? I would have to buy ddr3 and a heat sync, but any input on these package deals?

ps: Sorry if it seems like I'm hyjacking the threat I just saw a similar processor of the one I'm looking to buy! Didn't want to make a new thread.

no thread hijacking and please make a new thread.
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