Budget Build, all advice welcome

[ultra619]

Motherboard http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128504

RAM- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231308

PSU- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371016

HDD- Already own

CD/DVD drive- Already own

GPU- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131434

Case- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147153

CPU- either this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103911

or this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103652

idk which one, thanks

Fan for CPU- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065

i want to play SC2, BFBC2, BO, MW2, AC:B, Mafia 2, ETC

 

[Outlander_04]

You dont need 8 gig of really slow memory for a gaming machine

Get a 2 x2 gig kit of 1600 MHz , 1.5 volt It will cost less and your computer will perform better

The rosewill case is a bit plastic . Its decent enough but you could have an Antec 300 illusion which is very well made
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129066
for only $10 more
Or buy this combo [ which doesnt have the front case fans but will still cool your system really well ]
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129065

The phenom is a stronger cpu

 

[ultra619]

my mobo doesnt support more than 1333 mhz ram

 

[Outlander_04]

Well the 1066 MHz RAM is still slower than you need

The 1600MHz RAM is a still a good idea . It will run at 1333 MHz and you will be able to
a/ lower the timings and/or voltage
b/ it will simplify overclocking the processor

If you can trim a little bit of money out of your build
with 2 x2 gig of ram , and the case/psu combo

you get really close to being able to afford a mb with the latest 970 series chipset [ and the best upgrade path ]
ASUS M5A97 AM3+ AMD 970 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard with UEFI BIOS
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131767

 

[tinmann]

This might add a little more to your budget but it might serve you better in the long run.
AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103727

ASUS M4A88TD-V EVO with 2 PCI-E 2.0 X16 1@X16 and 1@X4
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131646

Another $100.00 after rebates but you'd have USB 3.0, Sata 6 and a better processor. If I were to buy an AMD chip it would be this one
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103849
but I don't know what your budget is like.

 

[Outlander_04]

This might add a little more to your budget but it might serve you better in the long run.
AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103727

ASUS M4A88TD-V EVO with 2 PCI-E 2.0 X16 1@X16 and 1@X4
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131646

Another $100.00 after rebates but you'd have USB 3.0, Sata 6 and a better processor. If I were to buy an AMD chip it would be this one
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103849
but I don't know what your budget is like.

why buy a 965 when you can buy a 955 and change the multiplier to get the exact same thing for less?
Why buy an 8xx series motherboard that cant take the next generation bulldozer processors?
why buy an x6 for gaming when we already know they dont perform better than an x4 ?

Im sorry, but those are horrible recommendations

 

[ultra619]

450$ is my max before rebates

 

[Outlander_04]

Athlon cpu
asus 970 motherboard
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231277
XFX HD-685X-ZNDC Radeon HD 6850 1GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150516
antec 300 with psu

Total is $433 [ after rebates ]

Much stronger graphics card , and fully upgradable to a bulldozer processor

The Phenom X3 with a cpu cooler nearly fits the budget

 

[pender21]

I know i'm going to get flamed for this, but perhaps take a look at the new non-hyper threading dual core sandy bridges. Specifically the G620 for $78. It is about the same performance as the x3 455.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4524/the-sandy-bridge-pentium-review-pentium-g850-g840-g620-g620t-tested/3

The cheapest boards for it are the H67 chipset which does not allow overclocking though. P67 and Z68 can overclock but are much more expensive.

I still believe AMD is a better value at this price range. Also add the x4 840 into the mix. It has L3 cache and is $100. Might be too expensive.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=40000280&IsNodeId=1&Description=h67&bop=And&Order=PRICE&PageSize=20

If you can craigslist a case, also take a look at the very bottom of this page.
http://www.pcper.com/hwlb

 

[ultra619]

if this helps i do have this power supply already, never used. But i heard bad reviews about it

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817709010

 

[Outlander_04]

if this helps i do have this power supply already, never used. But i heard bad reviews about it

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817709010

anything they can sell for $15 is made of really cheap components, by unskilled people
Give it to someone you dont like

 

[ultra619]

Hehe i have a couple people in mind, but my uncle works for a hardware company and he said that it is pretty good. I know it works because he did a test with it with a paperclip inside the connecter thingy and it turned on.

 

[Outlander_04]

If you look at the back theres a switch to change from 240 volt to 110 volt . Thats a sure sign it doesnt have an electronic voltage controller . It will be inefficient , run hotter , and is probably rates for that wattage at PEAK , which means it can only do it for really short periods .
Reputable brands can run 24/7 at their wattage rating and make much more stable voltages

Toms did an article on cheap psu's a while back . Sometimes 450 watt units were frying themselves under a 250 watt load . The guy that put the sticker on the back was a thief

 

[ultra619]

really? so i bought it for nothing. . but is 430 watts enough?

 

[Outlander_04]

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/low-cost-psu-pc-power-supply,2862.html


The Antec 430 watt in the 300 case unit is a quality . It will be able to run that system , even with the 6850 graphics card
Antec Basiq BP430 430W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371023
so they normally sell the psu for $50 all by its self .
Notice it doesnt have that little red switch to change the voltage on the back

 

[ultra619]

but i think the 6850 is a overkill, i think the 6770 is good enough its 50 dollars cheaper

 

[ultra619]

Best answer selected by ultra619.

 

[ultra619]

thanks this is my final build

Motherboard- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131767


RAM- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231277


HDD- Already own


CD/DVD drive- Already own


GPU- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150516


Case/PSU- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129065


CPU- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103652


Fan for CPU- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065

actually i might consider this motherboard- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157195