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August 29, 2011 2:39:25 PM

http://secure.newegg.com/Shopping/ShoppingCart.aspx?Sub...

before rebates- $449.60 (including shipping)

after rebates- $409.60 (including shipping)


anything I should do to make this build better?

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a b 4 Gaming
August 29, 2011 2:53:51 PM

Your shopping cart link is no good... "Your shopping cart is empty." Anyway... the build below is for reference.


Processor: AMD Athlon II X3 455 Rana 3.3GHz - $80

Motherboard: ASUS M5A97 AM3+ - $100

Graphics Card: XFX HD 6850 - $130 after MIR

RAM: G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3-1600 1.5v CL9 - $33

Hard Drive: SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 1TB - $60

Case: Antec TWO HUNDRED - $30 after MIR

Power Supply: CORSAIR Builder Series 430w - $35 after MIR

Optical: SAMSUNG DVD Burner 22X - $20

$488
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a b 4 Gaming
August 29, 2011 5:01:41 PM

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August 29, 2011 5:41:49 PM

Phenom II X4 Build :

Processor : AMD Phenom II X4 955BE - $119.99
MoBo : ASRock 760GM-GS3 AM3 - $47.99
RAM : G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 - $28.99
Graphics Card : XFX HD-667X-ZAF3 Radeon HD 6670 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 - $79.99
Hard Disk : Seagate Barracuda 500GB 7200rpm - $30
Optical Drive : $20 Case : $30 - ATX Mid Tower
Power Supply : Antec Earthwatts Green 380W - $39.99
Total : $397 after rebates

Alternative i3 2100 build :

Processor : Intel Core i3 2100 - $124.99
MoBo : ASRock H61M-VS MicroATX LGA1155 - $59.99
RAM : G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 - $28.99
Graphics Card : SAPPHIRE 100287L Radeon HD 5670 (Redwood) 512MB 128-bit DDR5 - $62.99
Hard Disk : Seagate Barracuda 500GB 7200rpm - $30
Optical Drive : $20 Case : $30 - ATX Mid Tower
Power Supply : Antec Earthwatts Green 380W - $39.99 Total : $399 after rebates

* Why 1x4GB RAM instead of 2x2GB?
If you can sacrifice the Dual Channel mode for now, you'll be able to add one
more 4GB stick if needed and use those in Dual Channel mode THEN.

Both the builds will be able to run any game atleast at medium details at 1366x768 or 1680x1050.
The Phenom build will multitask better and the i3 will game better.

Also, on a budget build, spending more on the CPU than the GPU is a better bet IMO. With an weak processor you can't play a damn multithreaded game good even if you own a GTX 590.
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August 30, 2011 7:35:14 AM

thanks for the advice everyone.

New build:

Processor- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Motherboard- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Graphics card- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

ram- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

hard drive- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

case- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

psu- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

optical- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Grand Total (with rebates/shipping):

$492.17

If you can change this build to make it better, please do so. Max budget is $500.

One more quick question- will this build handle 1920x1200 okay? Planning to get the u2412m. The reason I have a tight budget is so I can get a decent monitor.
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August 30, 2011 7:40:32 AM
August 30, 2011 7:51:46 AM

zooted said:
That's a pretty solid build.


Thanks. Is a 430 watt power supply enough? Or should I get a 500 watt one?
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August 30, 2011 7:57:46 AM

The gtx 460 requires 2 6 pin pci-e connectors. That is a solid psu, but you have to use a molex to pci-e adapter. I would probably go with a 6850 as the perform the same but use less power and only require one pci-e connector.
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a b 4 Gaming
August 30, 2011 8:10:05 AM

another vote for the 6850
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August 30, 2011 8:55:16 AM

Okay. I'll probably go for the 6850. What brand is the best?
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August 30, 2011 9:03:45 AM

XFX or Sapphire.
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August 30, 2011 11:34:11 AM

008Rohit said:
XFX or Sapphire.

My bad. I meant what type of the 6850 is best. Is it the asus directcu, xfx black edition, sapphire standard 6850, etc.
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August 30, 2011 11:39:03 AM

I have no idea in that!
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August 30, 2011 1:49:47 PM

EDIT: bad links

I have a question- is the 6850 DirectCU worth the extra money?
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a b 4 Gaming
August 30, 2011 2:08:16 PM

If you plan to overclock the HD 6850 it may be worth the additional $10. If not overclocking then no... the Direct Copper heatsync won't get you anything.
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a b 4 Gaming
August 30, 2011 5:43:00 PM

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a b 4 Gaming
August 30, 2011 10:27:56 PM

at $500, Though, you might be better with an i3-2100
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a b 4 Gaming
August 30, 2011 10:43:17 PM

ScrewySqrl said:
at $500, Though, you might be better with an i3-2100



He wouldnt


The Toms system builder marathon proved once and for all that at $500 a phenom was a better choice , but I would be highly amused to see an i3 build for gaming that you can put together for $400 that could compete
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a b 4 Gaming
August 30, 2011 10:56:02 PM

the i3 is generally a match for the 955.
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/289?vs=88


i3-2100: $125
AS Rock H61M/U3S3: $75
4GB DDR3-1333: $25
Seagate 500 GB drive: $40
PNY GTX 460: $150
Samsung DVD Burner: $17
Xigmatek 400W 80+ Bronze: $35
Rosewill R102 Case: $30
120mm fan: $6 (optional)
$497 or $503 with the extra fan
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August 31, 2011 4:28:54 AM
August 31, 2011 5:43:09 AM

Get my i3 2100 build except the GPU. Get a more powerful one like HD 6850 as you're spending almost $500 anyways. I kept that build within your $400 budget. Add a Corsair CX430 if you like.

But I'd definately not go with a X3 Rana. If you want to go with AMD check my Phenom II X4 build and add a more powerful GPU to it.
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August 31, 2011 10:43:17 AM
August 31, 2011 11:38:29 AM
a b 4 Gaming
August 31, 2011 11:51:27 AM

ScrewySqrl said:
the i3 is generally a match for the 955.
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/289?vs=88




not when its on a dead end mb ,with no overclocking , no chance of adding more ram

Any advantage the i3 has , even in gaming , evaporates the instant you raise the Phenoms clock to 3.6 Ghz , and of course that means the i3 gets beaten everywhere else by an even larger margin
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August 31, 2011 12:43:01 PM

Outlander_04 said:
not when its on a dead end mb ,with no overclocking , no chance of adding more ram

Any advantage the i3 has , even in gaming , evaporates the instant you raise the Phenoms clock to 3.6 Ghz , and of course that means the i3 gets beaten everywhere else by an even larger margin


Okay I'm confused now! Which CPU should I get?? I'll mostly be playing action and fps games. Don't know if to go amd or intel! :( 
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August 31, 2011 1:10:00 PM

Still the i3 2100 performs a lot better in gaming. Overclocking a 955BE can fill that gap partially, though.
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August 31, 2011 1:32:59 PM

Okay. Anything I can do to make my build cheaper?
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August 31, 2011 1:36:07 PM

My first i3 build was $399 after rebates.
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a b 4 Gaming
August 31, 2011 8:43:29 PM

008Rohit said:
Still the i3 2100 performs a lot better in gaming. Overclocking a 955BE can fill that gap partially, though.



Read the last two system builder marathons for the $500 computer .

Even a lower spec Phenom 920 , with less cache ,beat the intel everywhere and was competitive with the i3 2100 in gaming once it had been OC'ed.
A phenom 955 is already clocked higher , and can easily be clocked higher still .

Buying the intel with a really limited H61 board means you might get a few fps more out of the box now , but it will never be worth upgrading

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a b 4 Gaming
August 31, 2011 11:07:19 PM

I still dont see an H61 motherboard as being as horribly limited as you say.

a $500 price point is inexpensive enough that you're really goibng to just replace the whole system in 2-3 years anyway.

Still I see plenty of upgrade options for a H61 board.

You can upgrade to 2x8GB RAM (16 GB)..yeah you don't keep your existing 2x2GB, but so what?

You can add an SSD, you even have 2 SATA 3 ports to plug one in...you can't do a RAID, but that's not a huge loss.
you can add up to 2 more hard drives in the SATA 2 slots, assuming 1 for your starting HDD, and 1 for the DVD burner
The 2100 can be replaced with a 2300, 2400, 2500, and 2600. Possibly it will handle the new i7-3000 series of 6-core processors and Ivy Bridge.

The single video card slot will take a 7000 series card just fine, though admittedly the case (Rosewill R102) is limited to cards of 9.25" or less. in the current generation, this means you have to max out with a GTX560ti. *Horrors!*

what is missing in the way of upgrades?
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a b 4 Gaming
September 1, 2011 2:12:39 AM

Asrock A770E3 + AMD Athlon II X3 450 $117
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
Crucial Ballistix 4GB DDR3 1600 $25
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Seagate 500GB $40 (Don't worry SATA III is backwards compatible with SATA II)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Antec 620w $50
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
NZXT Beta $40
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Sapphire 6790 $135 ($20 MIR)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Total: $407 without MIR
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September 1, 2011 3:56:27 AM

@ ScrewySql

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