Twin frozr II 560 gtx vs 2gb twin forzr 6950

[blue90]

Which one is better, I will be playing runescape on multi accounts *NOT MONITORS* and was wondering which one was better, here are the links to the ones I am thinking of getting. One or the other, also if there is better cards for that price range then i'll buy.

Card 1 ---->http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127562&cm_re=6950_frozr-_-14-127-562-_-Product
or the same kind but the 3rd edition which is http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127575&cm_re=6950_frozr-_-14-127-575-_-Product

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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127565

I was gonna purchase this one but after reading someones post on here they said the 2gb is better. I was reading for performance wise, the gtx 560 ti was better. Remember, I will be playing runescape with these cards on multi accounts, using bots. I think runescape has a direct x engine.. Either way, which one to get. the GTX 560 ti is 245.00 and the 2gb 6950 is 289.99 and the other edition of the 6950 is 299.99

 

[cburke82]

6950 all the way I have that card and it is great. With MSI Afterburner I have it OC pretty high with no issues.

http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/2011-gaming-graphics-charts/Metro-2033-Enthusiast,2664.html

If you look there the 560 is performing under the 6950. So its the card to go with unless you plan on going 3d or something soon

 

[kss207rc]

I agry with cburke82 and also if you want physx go for the 560.
I have the 560 hawk with is very good but a little loud and i think it performs a little better than a 6950.

 

[cburke82]

I agry with cburke82 and also if you want physx go for the 560.
I have the 560 hawk with is very good but a little loud and i think it performs a little better than a 6950.

Does hawk stand for something lol? I ask because it sems 6950's out perform 560's alot so is that a boosded card or anything like that?

 

[blue90]

6950 all the way I have that card and it is great. With MSI Afterburner I have it OC pretty high with no issues.

http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/2011-gaming-graphics-charts/Metro-2033-Enthusiast,2664.html

If you look there the 560 is performing under the 6950. So its the card to go with unless you plan on going 3d or something soon

Thats only in 1 game tho i am playing on 1680 x 1050. Also I think runescape is 3D, so which card would be better, im gonna be running like 5 3d runescape games.

 

[cburke82]

Thats only in 1 game tho i am playing on 1680 x 1050. Also I think runescape is 3D, so which card would be better, im gonna be running like 5 3d runescape games.

So your going to be gaming with 3d glasses or are you talking about the game in terms of 2d 3d game world? I think between the 2 cards the 6950 is better IMO if you plan on going full 3d as in images popping off the screen I think you have to go with the nvidia card but not sure that level of card works well with 3d.

 

[kss207rc]

The hawk is this one
http://eu.msi.com/product/vga/N560GTX-Ti-Hawk.html

 

[blue90]

What about this card, is it better then those 2.. http://www.amazon.com/dp/B003N18TEC/ref=asc_df_B003N18TEC1604840?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&tag=pg-469-34-20&linkCode=asn&creative=395093&creativeASIN=B003N18TEC

 

[kss207rc]

Is the 560 i got.it has higher quality componets,cooler,it is pre overclocked and you can overclock it above 1ghz.

 

[blue90]

what about the gtx 480, is it better then the gtx 560 ti

 

[popatim]

Yes the Hawk is highly Overclocked, 950Mhz core clock as opposed to the stock 810

Get whichever one you like. They are comparable even though the Nvidia takes a performance hit at your resolution.

 

[kss207rc]

As popatim says it.
It may was better performance but is runs to hot,has very high power consuption and in the res you play you wont see much direfence.

 

[blue90]

well i was thinking of doing multi monitors now i guess. This would be awesome to have bots running on the right and on the left my normal gaming would 6950 be the best for this?

 

[cburke82]

well i was thinking of doing multi monitors now i guess. This would be awesome to have bots running on the right and on the left my normal gaming would 6950 be the best for this?

More than 2 screens and you need an AMD card (6950/6970) OR 2 Nvidia cards so for 3 screens yes go with the 6950 or 6970 if you can afford it.

 

[blue90]

ok well im thinking of doing that.. but doesnt the msi 6950 have a biso unlock that MSI offers to their customers.

 

[cburke82]

Well the 6950's with aftermarket coolers (twin Frozer 2 and 3) dont unlock to the 6970. I had success unlocking a XFX 6950 to a 6970 but get better performance from the 6950 twin frozr because it is much more stable when over clocked. Because I have the card clocked way past a stock 6970 I get better frame rates that i did with my 6950 unlocked to stock 6970 specs. Add the fact that overclocking cant be traced when doen with software and not a bios flash and that means you dont void your warantee were flashing a 6950 to a 6970 will void the warantee and im happy with my OCed 6950. Also it is quieter and stays much cooler because of the better dule fan cooler.

 

[blue90]

would this work for the graphics card i am getting to be unlocked. my msn is basic.elvis@hotmail.com please add me so u can help me out. so your basically saying not to unlock the 6950 because i can just overclock it. r you sure it voids the warantee?

 

[cburke82]

would this work for the graphics card i am getting to be unlocked. my msn is basic.elvis@hotmail.com please add me so u can help me out. so your basically saying not to unlock the 6950 because i can just overclock it. r you sure it voids the warantee?

To unlock the card you have to flash the bios. The main reason this is something alot of people did/do with the 6950 is that it has a dule bios with a switch. SO if you attempt to flash the bios and mess up you just flip the switch and your cool. The Twin Frozer 2 6950 does not have that switch so I would not recommend flashing that card you could brick it. I unlocked a XFX 6950 but the temps got real high and I had some artifacting so I got a different card. Now on any site you go to they recommend that you dont overclock a unlocked card past the stock 6970 settings.

The reason I recommend the 6950 twin frozer is based on the fact that it has 2 fans and that will mean 2 things for you. One its quiet and thats just a bonus not very important at least to me. The second thing is it will stay much cooler so you can puch the overclock a bit more. Based on Crysis and Metro 2033 I get more FPS with my stock 6950 overclocked to 940core and 1450mem than I did with the XFX 6950 unlocked. I use MSI Afterburner to overclock my card so Im not altering any bios or anything like that so the warantee is cool.

 

[blue90]

I think there is a switch it those tho. isnt there..

 

[cburke82]

I think there is a switch it those tho. isnt there..

No I have the card and can tell you 100% that there is no switch. Also I think the non reference cards cant unlock anyway so I would just get the Twin Frozer 6950 and learn to use MSI Afterburner and OC that card and stard destroying games

 

[blue90]

you think it will be good without the bios flash?

 

[cburke82]

you think it will be good without the bios flash?

Yeah its faster to CO that card that to flash another one and in my exuberance more stable. Again I have had both setups The one im on now is a stock 6950 that I used MSI Afterburner to over clock. With that setup I get more FPS in Crysis and Metro 2033 that I did with the flashed 6950>>6970 I had. And its cooler quieter and has no artifacting.