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August 30, 2011 11:37:53 PM

Hello, I'm looking for a pretty decent gaming gaming desktop within the price range of 1000-2000$. Could you guys give me a good brand or help me build my own? I know absolutely nothing about computers.

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August 31, 2011 12:59:16 AM

AMD Build
Case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... (also available in Red or Yellow)
Mobo: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
RAM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
CPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... (add $40 for X6 upgrade)
Cooler: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
GPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
HDD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
ODD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
OS: Win 7 Home Prem

Total Price: ~$1725


Intel Build

Mobo: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
CPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

All other parts from AMD Build can be used in the Intel Build. Total Price: ~$1850

Note: These prices can easily come down. Because your budget was so flexible, I picked some expensive parts. If you want to shave some of the cost down, post what game(s) you'll be playing. This matters because if you're gonna play low GPU-demanding games like WoW, then the selected GPU is overkill.
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August 31, 2011 2:30:05 AM

The big question you have to answer first - do you want to build one.

To build or not to build, that is the question.

The advantages of building

1. Lower initial cost on most systems, although might be minimal on basic systems costing less than about $450
2. Personal satisfaction
3. Better quality components
4. Acquisition of knowledge about computers and skills
5. Confidence in working on computer - and in doing upgrades
6. The big cost savings really comes after several years when you can upgrade instead of buying a new one. You can generally continue using the case, power supply, optical drive and operating system (depending on obsolesce on the latter) and maybe the graphics card (which you might already have updated anyway), and get just a new motherboard, CPU and memory at about half the cost of a new machine.
7. No vendor installed bloatware slowing down your system and taking up hard drive space for the life of the computer.
8. Having a complete BIOS that allows making changes and supports overclocking rather than one limited by manufacturer.
9. The ability to size components correctly so you don’t later find out that when you want to upgrade a graphics card that you also have to upgrade and replace a power supply.
10. Membership in the eclectic group of BYOers - a very intelligent, affable, handsome, honest, trustworthy, loyal, kind, and modest group.
11.Bragging rights - be they as they may - of BYO - and all the chicks it brings - or vice versa if you are vice versa - or even just vice.

Of course there are disadvantages:

1. Time is the big one - you have to invest some time in configuration, purchasing components, assembling the PC, loading the operating system, testing it, and sometime trouble shooting problems. The actual assembly only takes about 1-2 hours for an experienced hand, for a newbie taking their time approximately 4-6 hours, assuming no problems, which do occasionally occur. But if you consider it a hobby and learning experience then this should not be a big issue.
2. Support and - if something goes wrong with the PC you don't have a convenient number to call, you have to fix it yourself, with help from forums like this.
3. Warranty - you have the individual component vendor warranties which are sometimes shorter than what is provided by a vendor selling complete systems.
4. No vendor to cuss at when things go wrong. If you enjoy being able to rage at someone for months the BYO is not for you – it is no fun raging at yourself.

Here’s how simple it really is:

Youtube video showing how easy it is – with good general instructions
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_E3ULURHkE&feature=rela...


Step by Step Instructions with Pictures
http://www.computerforum.com/104641-how-build-computer-...
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/274745-31-step-step-g...

And two more options with detailed instructions:

http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/How_To_Assemble_A_Desktop_...
http://www.kitchentablecomputers.com/index.php

For more detailed instructions on installing a video card:

http://www.upgradevideocards.com/install.html

Off course, most computer components also come with instructions for their installation, and the motherboard usually has a guide for plugging everything into it.

Now go back and re-read the advantages and build that thing. Or not.

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August 31, 2011 2:53:18 AM

For comparison purposes, here is a CyberPower PC that you can buy for $1200:

http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/system/Gamer_Infinity_8800_...

I think you need to add the operating system for about another $100. Note that at CyberPower you can select from many options for different components and upgrade whatever component you might wish to - such as the video card or PSU or step some down to reduce cost.

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August 31, 2011 3:11:50 AM

Well the thing is I don't trust myself to build one because I don't know anything about computers I'm as noob as it comes when computers are involved so I would like to just buy one. I know nothing about what parts to buy or anything. Would you have a specific brand or anything that is really reliable and good for gaming?
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August 31, 2011 3:15:23 AM

What would you recommend that I upgrade? As I stated before I know nothing of computers.
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August 31, 2011 3:26:48 AM

First let me say that building one is not that difficult - did you ever build something out of Lincoln Logs or Legos? You are actuall just assemblying about eight piecs then connecting a few power connector and data cables and loading the software. However, that said, it is not for everyone. But did you look at the first video?

Most standard brands don't provide a large enough PSU for gaming and charge an arm and leg for upgrades like to decent graphics cards. Others may disagree, but if you want to purchase a good system go with Cyberpower.

And Cyberpower is reliable. The most comprehensive comparison of brand reliability I have seen is done by PC Magazine. Here are links to the article and the chart on the ratings:

Chart
http://www.pcmag.com/image_popup/0,1871,iid=294912,00.a...

Article
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2384244,00.asp

Note that CyberPower ties for 3rd in overall ranking with HP, behind Apple (the perennial #1) and ASUS and ahead of Dell, Acer, Lenovo, Gateway, eMachines, and Compaq.

If you would like to consider CyberPower, who does all the building for you, just provide a little more information and we can help configure a CyberPower system.

Specifically:
What applications do you use?
What is the resolution of you monitor?
What games do you want to be able to play? What settings?
Or alternatively to the questions about gaming - do you want a reliable and capable gaming system at a reasonable cost (say $900), or a really fast system that will play most games on high settings (say $1400) or a real enthusiast system that should handle most of what comes available in the next few years (say $1800)?

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August 31, 2011 3:28:49 AM

Battlefield 3, minecraft, League of legends, and other games similar to these
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August 31, 2011 3:31:23 AM

Wait 3 weeks for the AMD FX chips
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August 31, 2011 3:35:59 AM

ijust - can you answer the other questions above please - it will help hone in on what you want
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August 31, 2011 3:43:26 AM

Also - take a look at the cases near the top of the CyberPower listing - not just the pictures but all the ones listed below them and see if any of the cases appeal to you. Selecting a case is as much about personal style as it is about performance. Once we see your style, we can make sure it is a good case or suggest similar cases that might be better.
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August 31, 2011 3:49:23 AM

For applications I'm going to use windows 7. I don't have a moniter because I am currently on a laptop. I wanna play games like minecraft, league of legends, maybe some WoW in the future and battlefield 3. For the price thing preferably I would like something like the link to the CyberPower computer you send me. Sorry if I'm making this hard for you haha
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August 31, 2011 3:49:37 AM

So I still need to know from above:
What is the resolution of you monitor?
Do you want a reliable and capable gaming system at a reasonable cost (say $900), or a really fast system that will play most games on high settings (say $1400) or a real enthusiast system that should handle most of what comes available in the next few years (say $1800)?

To which I add:
Do you want to allow for overclocking CPU? Video card?
Allow for using more than one video card - perhaps in future to upgrade later?
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August 31, 2011 4:08:53 AM

I don't have a moniter yet. SO I wouldn't know. and something like 1400$ and whats a overclocking CPU. I would like a pc where I can upgrade the video card if the case presented itself
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August 31, 2011 4:10:50 AM

OK - never mind on rest of questions - I am working on it now. With any of these you can upgrade (change) a video card when you want.
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August 31, 2011 5:57:31 AM

OK here is what I configured:

To summarize:
CPU - i5 2500K overclocked approximately 10%
Mobo - Gigabyte GA-Z68A-DH3-B3
Memory - 8 GB 1600 MHz Major Brand
Video Card - EVGA Superclocked GTX 570
Power Supply - Corsair 750TX - 750w
Case - NZXT H2
(note that their are a lot of options here if you want another style)
CPU Fan - CoolerMaster Hyper TX3
Hard Drive - 1 TB SATA III
Mouse & Keyboard - Logitech Wireless MK320
OS - Windows 7 64 bit edition

Here is the pricing for the above:

Basic 8800 Pro System........................................................$1199
Add/Change
CPU - downgrade to 15-2500K.............................................-104
Ad Venom Boost Pro OC - 10%................................................19
Cooling Fan - switch to Coolermaster Hyper TX 3....................,-6
Motherboard - Upgrade to Gigabyte GA-Z68A-D3H-B3........... 23
Memory - Labor Day Special free upgrade from 4 GB..............-37
Video Card - upgrade to GTX 570 (EVGA brand) Superclock...113
Freebies - select one freebie for NVIDIA purchase.....................0
Power Supply - upgrade to 750 Watts - Corsair CMPSU......... 83
Hard Drive - downgrade to 1 TB SATA III 6.0 GB/s..................-41
Optical drive - OPTIONAL upgrade to ASUS Blu-Ray combo..... 40
Keyboard - Logitech Wireless MK320 with mouse ................33
Ulra Care - Ultra enhanced packaging ................................19
Ultra Care - Professional wiring ...............................19
Standard shipping .................................................................0
TOTAL - ....................................................................$1360

Here is a link to see the configuration on line (good for 7 days)

http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/saved/1DG37E

Note that the link shows a total price of $1397 because it does not reflect the memory upgrade listed above - you should select that as it is more memory at a lower price

Also note that the pricing is only good till 9/2 - a Labor Day Special

The system includes Windows but does not include a monitor, I don't know if you were expecting that to be included or not but I will have to refer you to others about monitors anyway.

There are places the price can be shaved if it is too high. But the system gives you a great gaming machine at a reasonable price with quality components.

Here is the THG review of the graphics card to give you an idea of what it can do.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-570-gf1...

So how does it seem to you?
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August 31, 2011 6:54:30 AM

Out of curiosity I priced the items at newegg to see what it would cost and here is the list:

NZXT H2 H2-001-BK Black Steel / Plastic Classic Silent ATX Mid Tower Chassis
Model #:H2-001-BK
Item #:N82E16811146072
Return Policy:Standard Return Policy
In Stock
$99.99 -$15.00 Instant $84.99
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Update13-128-502 GIGABYTE GA-Z68A-D3H-B3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
Model #:GA-Z68A-D3H-B3
Item #:N82E16813128502
Return Policy:Standard Return Policy
In Stock
$128.99 $128.99
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Update14-130-620 EVGA SuperClocked 012-P3-1573-KR GeForce GTX 570 HD w/Display-Port (Fermi) 1280MB 320-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP ...
Model #:012-P3-1573-KR
Item #:N82E16814130620
Return Policy:VGA Standard Return Policy
In Stock
Mail in Rebate Card14-130-620

$349.99 -$20.00 Instant $329.99
. .
Update17-139-021 CORSAIR Enthusiast Series TX750 V2 750W ATX12V v2.31/ EPS12V v2.92 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC High Performance Power ...
Model #:CMPSU-750TXV2
Item #:N82E16817139021
Return Policy:Standard Return Policy
In Stock
Mail in Rebate Card17-139-021

$139.99 -$30.00 Instant $109.99
. .
Update19-115-072 Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I52500K
Model #:BX80623I52500K
Item #:N82E16819115072
Return Policy:CPU Replacement Only Return Policy
In Stock
$219.99 $219.99
. .
Update20-148-420 Crucial Ballistix sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 Desktop Memory Model BL2KIT51264BA1339
Model #:BL2KIT51264BA1339
Item #:N82E16820148420
Return Policy:Memory Standard Return Policy
In Stock
$54.99 $54.99
. .
Update20-342-002 LOGISYS FP528BK All-in-one USB 2.0 3.5" Internal Card Reader
Model #:FP528BK
Item #:N82E16820342002
Return Policy:Standard Return Policy
In Stock
$12.99 -$4.00 Instant $8.99
. .
Update22-148-697 Seagate Barracuda ST31000524AS 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
Model #:ST31000524AS
Item #:N82E16822148697
Return Policy:Standard Return Policy
In Stock
$64.99 -$5.00 Instant $59.99
. .
Update23-126-188 Logitech MK320 Black USB RF Wireless Standard Desktop
Model #:920-002836
Item #:N82E16823126188
Return Policy:Standard Return Policy
In Stock
$39.99 $39.99
. .
Update27-135-247 ASUS Black Blu-ray Drive SATA Model BC-12B1ST/BLK/B/AS - OEM
Model #:BC-12B1ST/BLK/B/AS
Item #:N82E16827135247
Return Policy:Standard Return Policy
Out Of Stock
Auto-Notify 27-135-247
$68.99 $68.99
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Update32-116-986 Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit - OEM
Model #:GFC-02050
Item #:N82E16832116986
Return Policy:Software Standard Return Policy
In Stock
$99.99 $99.99
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Update35-103-064 COOLER MASTER Hyper TX3 RR-910-HTX3-G1 "Heatpipe Direct Contact" 92mm CPU Cooler
Model #:RR-910-HTX3-G1
Item #:N82E16835103064
Return Policy:Standard Return Policy
In Stock
$19.97 $19.97
Subtotal: $1,226.86

So you would be paying Cyperpower about $133 to build and ship you the PC. Not a bad deal. If you priced the components at other stores, they might even cost more than the Cybepower build.
Note that the Seagate HD and the Crucial memory are proxies for the no-name parts from CyberPower. I never bothered to see if the memory is compatible but it is the same size and speed as in the proposed system.
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August 31, 2011 8:32:54 AM

This is amazing just what I'm looking for. You sir have out done yourself, mad props :) 
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August 31, 2011 10:59:22 AM

My opinion-Don`t bother trying to build one if its your first time. You will damage some components and may possibly waste money, unless you have someone who is knowledgeable at doing these sorts of things or if you are ordering someone to build it for you. I`ve seen many people who know nothing about these sorts of things, and wasted $1000-2000 on a system that won`t even run and can`t return back. PLEASE DO NOT TRY THIS ON YOUR OWN.

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September 1, 2011 1:38:09 AM

zero888 said:
My opinion-Don`t bother trying to build one if its your first time. You will damage some components and may possibly waste money, unless you have someone who is knowledgeable at doing these sorts of things or if you are ordering someone to build it for you. I`ve seen many people who know nothing about these sorts of things, and wasted $1000-2000 on a system that won`t even run and can`t return back. PLEASE DO NOT TRY THIS ON YOUR OWN.


Uhhh... By this logic, there would be nobody building computers. We all have to start somewhere, but yes, it is good to recognize the inherent dangers of building a system.

"Catch a man a fish; you'll feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish; you'll feed him for a lifetime."
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February 24, 2012 2:07:14 AM

I wouldn't try building a computer your first time, unless you're comfortable with it. Me I prefer just having a working computer shipped to my door. Much easier and much less stressful that way. I wouldn't go with Cyberpower though, tried them it apparently didn't turn out so well, and I don't like how they trick you with their 3 year warranty. It's actually a one year warranty only you're covered for labor for 3 years, but you'll still have to pay if anything breaks. I personally only get my computers from IronsideComputers.com now. It's fully covered for 3 years, and every computer I buy comes to my in full working condition. :) 
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February 25, 2012 8:05:20 PM

Personally, I would go on Cyberpower and customize your own computer. It has so many features such as video card, sound card, case, lighting, hard drive. etc., etc., etc.
But i depends on how much money you willing to spend. An average computer on Cyberpower with some perks is about $800-1000.
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