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August 31, 2011 4:03:51 AM

Purchase date:Next couple weeks

Budget:$850-1050

System usage:Gaming, media, movies, surfing the internet, school

Parts not required-Mouse and keyboard, Case, OD, HD, CPU Fan

Preferred website: Newegg only

Country of Origin: USA

Parts Preferences: Intel CPU 2500k, Asus mobo, Nvidia GPU unsure on model

Overclocking:yes

Sli:maybe

Monitor Resolution:1920x1080

Additional info:I am looking for a good low/mid range monitor 20-23 inch. for internet surfing, some gaming will most likely use my 42" plasma for gaming also. I will be reusing my OWC 120GB SSD from my macbook pro that i am selling
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CPU: Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge- $219.99

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=19-115-...

Mobo: ASUS P8Z68-V PRO LGA 1155 Intel Z68 $159.99

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Ram-I've been looking at these but dont know voltage is right....

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=E...

GPU:Nvidia- Im stuck between 560 ti prob. SLI and 570

560 ti-
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompare.aspx?Submi...|14-127-594^14-127-594-TS%2C14-125-363^14-125-363-TS%2C14-130-651^14-130-651-TS%2C14-127-565^14-127-565-TS%2C14-130-610^14-130-610-TS

570-
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompare.aspx?Submi...|14-127-582^14-127-582-TS%2C14-125-382^14-125-382-TS%2C14-130-620^14-130-620-TS%2C14-130-595^14-130-595-TS

PSU:Antec High Current Gamer Series HCG-900 900W One of only a few with multiple 12V+ rails $110

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Monitor- 1080p HDMI input connection.. Do i want LED backlight? Speakers in the Monitor??
Heres a few within the range i wanna spend...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Thanks in advance...

August 31, 2011 12:35:30 PM

CPU - i5-2500k = Good choice
GPU - SLI 560Ti's are nice, however in the long term you would get more performance from buying a single GTX 570 now and adding another in SLI later on.
Motherboard - ASUS P8Z68-v PRO = Good choice, i use one myself
PSU - Generally a single rail is preferred rather than multiple rails. 750w would be plenty for SLI 560Ti's and 850w would be plenty for SLI 570's. Suggested brands to look at are: Corsair, XFX, OCZ, SeaSonic, Antec - also recommend looking for a modular PSU.
RAM - You need 1.5v RAM for Sandy Bridge 1155 motherboards.
HDD - Not listed? (Not required)
Case - Not listed? (Not required)
Optical Drive - Not listed? (Not required)
August 31, 2011 1:04:10 PM

The number of rails on a modern PSU does not matter. In fact, I'd rather have more than one, with properly configured OCP. Otherwise, a near-short on a single rail may just appear to be a heavy load, and the PSU won't shut down, but something will get smoked or even start a fire.
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August 31, 2011 6:42:43 PM

AdrianPerry said:
CPU - i5-2500k = Good choice
GPU - SLI 560Ti's are nice, however in the long term you would get more performance from buying a single GTX 570 now and adding another in SLI later on.
Motherboard - ASUS P8Z68-v PRO = Good choice, i use one myself
PSU - Generally a single rail is preferred rather than multiple rails. 750w would be plenty for SLI 560Ti's and 850w would be plenty for SLI 570's. Suggested brands to look at are: Corsair, XFX, OCZ, SeaSonic, Antec - also recommend looking for a modular PSU.
RAM - You need 1.5v RAM for Sandy Bridge 1155 motherboards.
HDD - Not listed? (Not required)
Case - Not listed? (Not required)
Optical Drive - Not listed? (Not required)


So you u think 570 would be good? i want it to kick ass and run max settings for BF3, MW3, Black Ops, Need for speed games.. pretty much nething besides metro 2033 or crysis 2.

Also HD and Optical drive not required im just gonna get a 1tb drive combo deal from newegg.

As for the case im lookin spend no more then $100 on it i will go higher i if see one i like, prefer a case with a window. Case must be setup for liquid cooling and have plenty of fans for good airflow. Also prefer one with red neons but thats not a deal breaker
August 31, 2011 6:46:38 PM

For liquid cooling your probably looking more at cases like Corsair 650D/800D - these both come in way above $100 though

GTX 570 would run CRYSIS and METRO maxed out with at least 40fps and i presume it will perform in a similar manner, if not better, with BF3, SKYRIM ect.
August 31, 2011 7:13:53 PM

AdrianPerry said:
For liquid cooling your probably looking more at cases like Corsair 650D/800D - these both come in way above $100 though

GTX 570 would run CRYSIS and METRO maxed out with at least 40fps and i presume it will perform in a similar manner, if not better, with BF3, SKYRIM ect.


Which would u recommend outta these or any other 570?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompare.aspx?Submi...|14-127-582^14-127-582-TS%2C14-125-382^14-125-382-TS%2C14-130-620^14-130-620-TS%2C14-130-595^14-130-595-TS

And ur running just one 560 ti?
August 31, 2011 10:03:17 PM

All the 570's listed are reputable cards. EVGA is a popular choice.

Im running a single 560Ti overclocked to 950MHz with 5 case fans on a CoolerMaster Storm Scout - i wouldn't say the build is noisy, during the day i dont even notice it, but its not exactly silent either. I wouldnt like to try sleeping with it left on overnight, might be a little disturbing.
September 2, 2011 4:49:16 AM

AdrianPerry said:
CPU - i5-2500k = Good choice
GPU - SLI 560Ti's are nice, however in the long term you would get more performance from buying a single GTX 570 now and adding another in SLI later on.
Motherboard - ASUS P8Z68-v PRO = Good choice, i use one myself
PSU - Generally a single rail is preferred rather than multiple rails. 750w would be plenty for SLI 560Ti's and 850w would be plenty for SLI 570's. Suggested brands to look at are: Corsair, XFX, OCZ, SeaSonic, Antec - also recommend looking for a modular PSU.
RAM - You need 1.5v RAM for Sandy Bridge 1155 motherboards.
HDD - Not listed? (Not required)
Case - Not listed? (Not required)
Optical Drive - Not listed? (Not required)



For the Ram...Can i overclock it myself or do i have to buy it overclocked?
September 2, 2011 7:17:20 AM

I've never actually tried overclocking RAM.

Personally i bought XMP 1600MHz RAM and then just enabled XMP in the BIOS.

I'd have a look on google for a quick guide on overclocking RAM and by how much you can overclock it. Just keep in mind socket 1155 motherboards require 1.5v RAM, not 1.65v (as this has caused some issues).
September 11, 2011 5:18:16 AM

Im looking at changing motherboards to something more affordable(open box deal is out of stock). What would i use extra PCI, PCI-E slots for besides GPU? Im a noob to computer builds do i really need a mobo with with multiple slots if i dont plan on using SLI? Also would 16GB ram be overkill? Even 12GB too much? I have a dual core 2.7GHz macbook pro with 8GB and 120GB SSD and it still seems slow(my guess is cuz its a slower dual core). Third thing what size SSD would be sufficent/recommended for SSD Cache for my 1TB spin drive??
September 11, 2011 5:19:13 AM

Im looking at changing motherboards to something more affordable(open box deal is out of stock). What would i use extra PCI, PCI-E slots for besides GPU? Im a noob to computer builds do i really need a mobo with with multiple slots if i dont plan on using SLI? Also would 16GB ram be overkill? Even 12GB too much? I have a dual core 2.7GHz macbook pro with 8GB and 120GB SSD and it still seems slow(my guess is cuz its a slower dual core). Third thing what size SSD would be sufficent/recommended for SSD Cache for my 1TB spin drive??
September 11, 2011 5:21:35 AM

Im looking at changing motherboards to something more affordable(open box deal is out of stock). What would i use extra PCI, PCI-E slots for besides GPU? Im a noob to computer builds do i really need a mobo with with multiple slots if i dont plan on using SLI? Also would 16GB ram be overkill? Even 12GB too much? I have a dual core 2.7GHz macbook pro with 8GB and 120GB SSD and it still seems slow(my guess is cuz its a slower dual core). Third thing what size SSD would be sufficent/recommended for SSD Cache for my 1TB spin drive??
September 11, 2011 6:11:46 PM

Why_Me said:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $124.99 $10 off w/ promo code EMCKAKA32, ends 9/15
ASRock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

or...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $121.99 FREE SHIPPING
GIGABYTE GA-Z68A-D3H-B3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard


Have you used either brand? I was looking at Asus I like the Bios program they have for overclocking/tuning the system. It seems to be one of the better ones especially for someone like me who has no experience with overclocking. What about this one vs. what you posted...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Maybe this one...Idn if I really need Bluetooth or not....

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
September 11, 2011 6:14:28 PM

Why_Me said:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $124.99 $10 off w/ promo code EMCKAKA32, ends 9/15
ASRock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

or...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $121.99 FREE SHIPPING
GIGABYTE GA-Z68A-D3H-B3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard


Have you used either brand? I was looking at Asus I like the Bios program they have for overclocking/tuning the system. It seems to be one of the better ones especially for someone like me who has no experience with overclocking. What about this one vs. what you posted...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Maybe this one...Idn if I really need Bluetooth or not....

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
September 13, 2011 3:54:16 AM

AdrianPerry said:
CPU - i5-2500k = Good choice
GPU - SLI 560Ti's are nice, however in the long term you would get more performance from buying a single GTX 570 now and adding another in SLI later on.
Motherboard - ASUS P8Z68-v PRO = Good choice, i use one myself
PSU - Generally a single rail is preferred rather than multiple rails. 750w would be plenty for SLI 560Ti's and 850w would be plenty for SLI 570's. Suggested brands to look at are: Corsair, XFX, OCZ, SeaSonic, Antec - also recommend looking for a modular PSU.
RAM - You need 1.5v RAM for Sandy Bridge 1155 motherboards.
HDD - Not listed? (Not required)
Case - Not listed? (Not required)
Optical Drive - Not listed? (Not required)


Which PSU would u recommend?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompare.aspx?Submi...

Also, how do u have ur 5 case fans set up? are they always on or do u have a fan controller? are they PWM fans?

Im looking at getting the Cooler Master 692 Advanced. I was originally looking at the CM Storm Enforcer but it only has the option for 4 fans vs. the 10 max on the 692 Adv.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Thanks again
September 13, 2011 9:58:09 AM

I have only three fans installed in my Enermax Hoplite; front and rear standard, and I added a low-rpm top. My 970BE oc'ed to 3.8GHz is showing 29C right now. Unless you're going for a madd oc, you won't need lots of fans.
September 13, 2011 3:08:05 PM

Onus said:
I have only three fans installed in my Enermax Hoplite; front and rear standard, and I added a low-rpm top. My 970BE oc'ed to 3.8GHz is showing 29C right now. Unless you're going for a madd oc, you won't need lots of fans.


How do u have ur fans hooked up? Fan controller? Or r they always running?
September 13, 2011 10:33:22 PM

Only the front fan has a control knob. It is an intake. The top and rear run at full speed. The PSU draws in its own air from beneath the case (I have it on a board, not on the carpet).
The rear fan is quiet too, so it must also be low-speed. I can hardly hear it when it is on.
September 14, 2011 12:42:50 AM

Onus said:
Only the front fan has a control knob. It is an intake. The top and rear run at full speed. The PSU draws in its own air from beneath the case (I have it on a board, not on the carpet).
The rear fan is quiet too, so it must also be low-speed. I can hardly hear it when it is on.


Y have it on a board? Keep dust and what not from carpet??
September 14, 2011 12:45:43 AM

Tin88 said:
Y have it on a board? Keep dust and what not from carpet??

Better airflow. It's like sticking head down face first in a pillow vs face first on a hardwood floor. Your not going to be able to breathe in the pillow, but you will on that hardwood floor.

No air, no cooling.
September 14, 2011 1:01:05 AM

^Exactly.
September 14, 2011 3:52:06 AM

yea thanks, i didnt think about that mine woulda been on the carpet. Any experience with SSD as cache drive?
September 14, 2011 5:08:04 AM

Tin88 said:
I was looking at this case but i dont know if i should really worry that much about noise from it....

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


I took at good look at the NZXT H2 case (looked quite interesting in person at Frys Electronics) but airflow isn't all that great with the front door closed and it only opens 90 or so degrees. Here is a review of it.

I ended up getting the Storm Snipe (couldn't say no to ShellShocker promo price)

I saw the Cooler Master HAF 922 at Fry's too and rather liked it.
September 14, 2011 5:57:05 AM

Tin88 said:
Which PSU would u recommend?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompare.aspx?Submi...


There's no contest between the Thermaltake Black Widow W0319RU 850W (Brozne) and the COOLER MASTER Silent Pro RS850-AMBAJ3-US 850W (Bronze.) Found no reviews of the Thermaltake but the CM scored a Golden Award on one review.

If you're looking to save $, I found this after looking at your compare list is Lepa B850-MA 850W (Bronze) (modular & it's $70 after $50 rebate) & earned "Must Have" review.

If you looking for serious quality, then you might consider these Corsair PSUs. The TX850 V2 is Bronze certified with 5 yr warranty and the HX850 is module Silver certified with 7 yr. Plenty of reviews of both and all agree they rock, plus Corsair has very good rep on rebates & RMAs.



September 14, 2011 7:21:20 AM

Thanks dude Ill check it out...after I had posted that I found a XFX core edition pro 850W for $90 after like $40 MIR...it's considered a tier II
September 14, 2011 9:57:00 PM


Yeppers, I noticed the XFX Core Pros too!

I was shopping for a 650W PS and had narrowed it down to XFX Core Pro, Corsair TX V2 and a Seasonic 620.

Learned that XFX & Corsair are internally the same and have more modern architecture than the Seasonic. The clincher for me was Corsair is very good with rebates, RMAs and tech support and XFX doesn't have the best rep if anything happens to go wrong. Well... OK, with 10% promo & rebate, the Corsair ended up being $15 cheaper too. :) 

Corsair TX850 V2 ==>$135 - 10% (thru Sept 15) - $15 (rebate) = $106.50 (free shipping)
September 21, 2011 12:34:22 AM

Purchasing parts tonight any recomendations on things I should change?

I'm going with the Evga GTX 570 classified
-XFX silent pro( mentioned in previous post) 850W PSU
- CM 690II advanced case
-Corsair Vengance 1600MHz 8GB ram
-CPU cooler; stuck between CM hyper 212+ dual fans or Thermaltake Frio OCK
No additional monitor( using old CRT one) any thoughts?
All other parts(CPU, mobo r the same as above)
Any advice please lemme kno
September 21, 2011 12:54:58 AM

Also a LG Blu ray burner and samsung spinpoint 1TB HD.
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