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Direct Cu II : 560ti vs 6950 1gb/2gb | SLI/CFX or just single ?

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June 29, 2011 3:34:57 PM

So I'm upgrading my rig quit a bit (I have an old 5770), I've narrowed all the graphics cards down to the 6950 and 560ti.
Only problem is I still can't choose between the AMD or Nvidia camp.
Both cards offer great features, but I want the best for FullHD gaming.
I will be upgrading to an ASUS Crosshair V Formula (CFX and SLI compatible).
With all this I am really hoping to max everything out (AA,Anisotropic,Tessalation).
560ti Direct Cu II is said to be quiet and easy to OC.
The 6950 Direct Cu II 1gb as almost no info on the web I assume it will be quiet but I can't be sure (6950GPU=+80°C in load :??:  ). I'm also hopping to SLI and Crossfire for better performance.
The 2 gb version is a monster being 3 slots wide and weighing more than a Kilo. Is it possible or insane to Crossfire it ?
Now I live in France, so I can't get anything from the US and I don't wanna order from the UK.
Prices: - 560ti Direct Cu II = 215 € URL:http://www.amazon.fr/ENGTX560-TI-DCII-2DI-1GD5/dp/B004K...
- 6950 Direct Cu II 1 gb=245 € URL:http://www.amazon.fr/gp/offer-listing/B004SOOF1O/sr=1-8...
- 6950 Direct Cu II 2 gb=250 € URL:http://www.amazon.fr/Asus-Carte-Graphique-EAH6950-PCI-E...
I will also get a 650D so I won't have any space problems what so ever, and I have a nice AX750W PSU 80+Gold all the power needed. This may seem weird but I want a very nice PC interior so to go with the mobo I will only buy DCUII. :pt1cable: 
(I will not consider flashing the 6950 because there is no Bios switch on the DCUII)

Here's my rig:-AMD phenom II x4 955 BE OC @ 3.4ghz|-SyncMaster P2250
-Corsair XMS3 DDR3 1333mhz 2x2go |-Raid 0 7200 rpm
-(ASUS Crosshair V Formula) |Games: Metro 2033, Batman Arkham Asylum, (Witcher 2), Crysis 2,etc...
-(650D) |-H50 Cpu cooler
-AX750W
Thanks for answering. :hello: 
a b U Graphics card
June 29, 2011 4:38:48 PM

Do you have options other than the Asus Direct Cu II? You cannot Crossfire the 6950 2GBs because of that 3 slot cooler.

I'd recommend the 6950 over the 560Ti, because it performs better at 1920x1080 and up, and 2 of them will run on that 750W PSU. AMD's older motherboards don't support SLI (well, if at all) so I would pass on NVidia if you plan to get a second GPU later on.

Also, the Corsair 650D has a reputation for having bad cooling, so I would consider a different case. Cooler Master has some great mid towers (HAF 912/922) that aren't that expensive, and have some of the best cooling.
June 29, 2011 4:56:09 PM

Thanks for answering so quickly. Now as I mentioned the Asus Crosshair V Formula is absolutely crossfire and SLI compatible, in fact all AM3+ boards that support crossfire, will support SLI. :bounce: 
I actually wanna stick with the Corsair 650D because even though the cooling is far from great it has a nice style and it is quit future proof. But yeah I am probably gonna go for two 6950's only thing is how noisy and hot are they ? :o 
I do have other options than DCUII but I would prefer to make a nice stylish PC (in order to sell easier, next year). And I have a friend that already has the DCUII 560ti and would like to compete with him.
Anyways thanks a lot for your great answer. :sol: 
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a b U Graphics card
June 29, 2011 5:02:58 PM

The GTX 560 Ti is just as fast as the HD 6950 at 1080p and not much slower at higher resolutions...

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/293?vs=330

Depending on your resolution you don't need two video cards unless you're trying to max out Metro 2033 or something.
June 29, 2011 5:12:36 PM

browsingtheworld said:
Depending on your resolution you don't need two video cards unless you're trying to max out Metro 2033 or something.


Well actually I am :lol: 

But the 6950 is faster in most cases.

Thanks for your answer. :hello: 
a b U Graphics card
June 29, 2011 5:50:49 PM

I've seen different benchmarks (Tom's Hardware and other small independent tests), and most of them have the 6950 beating the 560Ti by a more sizeable amount than Anand's.

I just though - if you really want to beat out your friend, get 2x6950s and 3 monitors for Eyefinity :) 
June 29, 2011 7:54:03 PM

Well sadly I don't have enough space to get 2 more screens for eyefinity but I guess I'll stick with the CFX of Direct CU II 6950's 1gb. But I still need to know the noise level... :sweat: 
a c 595 U Graphics card
June 29, 2011 9:08:51 PM

Performance depends on the game. Red bars to the right favor the GTX 560 Ti, red bars to the left of center favor the 6950 (click for a bigger image). These are for stock clocked cards, add or subtract as necessary for overclocked cards:

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/graphics/display/gefor...
a b U Graphics card
June 29, 2011 9:11:02 PM

If you're going to CF get the 2GB version. The 1GB version should cost as much as the GTX 560 Ti but it doesn't.
June 30, 2011 11:27:19 AM

I did some more research and apparently it is possible to CF 3 slot cards :ouch:  . That would be great 'caus not only is 6950 2gb cooler than the Ti but it also has 2gb of memory witch in CF are useful (for AA). But apparently the Ti runs very cool and quiet and has great Tessellation performance (PhysX wouldn't be bad but I could do fine without it).
I would also like to OC the cards a lot (no flashing :non:  ).
How noisy is the 6950 DCU 1gb ? :heink: 
Thanks for answering.
a b U Graphics card
June 30, 2011 12:01:08 PM

It is possible to crossfire them, but you need a motherboard that has PCI-Express x16 slots that are far enough away. Most motherboards only place the slots 2 spaces apart, not 3.

You can OC the 6950s as well as the 560Tis.

As far as noise - dunno. Never used/heard one.

June 30, 2011 2:41:23 PM

the 6950 DCII cards are the most silent cards in the series.
a b U Graphics card
June 30, 2011 8:23:13 PM

Ecornily said:
Ok so I will Crossfire that is 100% sure but should I go for the 6950 1gb or 2gb for that ?
Here's a pic of the mobo:
http://www.overclex.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/asus...
Would the CF bridge be long enough for the 2gb version ?
Thanks for answering.


If you are 100% sure you are going to Xfire these, go with the 2gb card for sure. The reason is that when in Xfire, they do not add the amount of memory available together. Instead, the cards will share the memory of 1 of the cards. You are MUCH MUCH better off getting Xfire going off of 2gb memory than only 1gb. Especially since the only freaking reason to xfire such cards is to run Eyefinity with 3 monitors running at 5940x1680 resolution. That high of resolution will make very good use of the 2gb bugger
a b U Graphics card
June 30, 2011 10:09:00 PM

Ecornily said:
Ok so I will Crossfire that is 100% sure but should I go for the 6950 1gb or 2gb for that ?
Here's a pic of the mobo:
http://www.overclex.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/asus...
Would the CF bridge be long enough for the 2gb version ?
Thanks for answering.


+1 on the 2GB model. Go big or go home :) 

If the standard bridge doesn't fit, I believe there are extended ones that should work. I can't imagine Asus doesn't have one that works with the 2GB models.
BTW as long as you have enough expansion slots on your case (7 based on my count), the triple slot cards should fit easily.
June 30, 2011 11:06:45 PM

Ok I guess I'll go for two 6950's 2gb then ! :sol: 
Thanks a lot for answering and helping me choose. :D 
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