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August 31, 2011 6:17:40 PM

I just joined the forum, I have never built a computer, just fixed a few by accident throught the years for friends.

I have already purchased my case, which is; Cooler Master Haf X Blue Edition. (with extra top fan!)
I have already purchased my power supply, which is; Corsair CMPSU-850TX 850watt
I was given brand new "in the box" Corsair Vengeance Memory 4-4gb

I am wanting to go with the "new" GB G1 Sniper2 MOBO, with i7 2600k, EVGA SuperClocked 012-P3-1572-AR GeForce GTX 570 (Fermi) 1280MB 320-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card, seagate 3tb hhd.

Sounds good, so far?

I want to go ssd, but should I go with enough for just the OS, say 64gb, or should I go bigger, so certain games can be loaded onto drive? I only want the 3tb seagate for
music, pics and stuff. also noticed that GB does not say in there literature that the Corsair CMZ memory "vengeance" is recognized.

I'm excited about building this computer, but my head is starting to hurt....so much information.....so little time!

Thanks in advance for all the help!



Approximate Purchase Date: Starting to buy components now

Budget Range: $2000

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming, Movies, Music, Internet, Home Stuff

Parts Not Required: Keeping the Bose Companion 5 system

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: NewEgg for now

Country of Origin: USA New Orleans, LA

Parts Preferences: Still Learning, like Intel i7, like Nvidia, MOBO either ASUS or Gigabyte "Like G1 Sniper 2"

Overclocking: Maybe

SLI or Crossfire: Maybe

Monitor Resolution: Not sure, its dvi and 5 years old

Additional Comments: I have never built a computer before. I am only doing this for the experience "hoping to have a fun experience"

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September 1, 2011 2:44:09 AM

Thanks for the help
a b B Homebuilt system
September 1, 2011 3:23:16 AM

Hi there, welcome to the forums.

Sounds like we can work something out. But before we get any details worked out, could you please put this in the post? http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/261222-31-build-advic... It helps us out greatly, as it compiles all the important information we need.

Cheers!
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a c 91 B Homebuilt system
September 1, 2011 3:26:52 AM

Sounds like you have a pretty good budget, should be a pretty solid system. A few pointers:

3TB is overkill. You really only need more than 2TB if you're using the drives to store massive amounts of video on them. I have two 1-TB hard drives and I don't even come close to filling capacity. In fact I even use the second 1TB to backup the first 1TB hard drive, and even have room to backup the primary. 64 GB for SSD is plenty fine, it should be enough for the main programs you use. Don't load games on the SSD - if you have to wipe it for any reason, you might lose your save game status - especially if you're like me and play some older games on Steam.

The Cooler Master case is execllent, I just bought a HAF 912 for a workstation, and it is a really well-made case.

I don't know much about the Gigabyte board but the one I just bought is really excellent (Z68 based with Intel Core i3-2120), you cant go wrong. Good choices on memory, video card, and PSU.

September 1, 2011 6:16:28 PM

I actually have a movie collection on a 3tb external, and it is completely full! I am also running a wd sharspace 4tb raid one, which is my music collection, which is almost at 55,000 songs. So, I actually plan to have two seagate 3tb's installed! ;) 
I was looking at the Corsair Force Series GT 60GB SSD for the OS, just wondering if it should be bigger, and if so, why?
Somebody said I need to use a grounding wrist strap too!? While assembling my PC

Should I have some sort of temp monitor bay? Should I use something more than the fan that comes with CPU? Thanks for helping the newbie with alot of questions!
a c 91 B Homebuilt system
September 1, 2011 6:22:14 PM

For a basic skeleton of parts and just for the sake of a guide to educate.
http://www.squidoo.com/electronicandmore
There's a $850 and $1000 build that'd fit you.

I'd get this SSD. OCZ Solid 3 120GB $170
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Also, perhaps getting this HDD as the storage for your movies instead of the F3 1TB I suggested.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
You don't need an i7 2600K that's for sure. Your usage isn't anything close to the actual need for HT. And if you're thinking of the excuse of "future proofing" it's not, in Gaming the 2500K performs about 98% of the 2600K, you wouldn't even notice the difference.

a c 91 B Homebuilt system
September 1, 2011 6:41:41 PM

uh oh said:
I actually have a movie collection on a 3tb external, and it is completely full! I am also running a wd sharspace 4tb raid one, which is my music collection, which is almost at 55,000 songs. So, I actually plan to have two seagate 3tb's installed! ;) 
I was looking at the Corsair Force Series GT 60GB SSD for the OS, just wondering if it should be bigger, and if so, why?
Somebody said I need to use a grounding wrist strap too!? While assembling my PC

Should I have some sort of temp monitor bay? Should I use something more than the fan that comes with CPU? Thanks for helping the newbie with alot of questions!


Wow, that's insane! :ouch: 

Then yeah definitely get a 3TB or two if you need the storage, you should get a Z68-based motherboard as they'll have support for 3TB hard drives built-in.

As for the SSD it really depends on what you want to run. If you just want to use it for the basics (OS, etc) then it just depends. I'd look at getting a 60GB or a 120GB SSD for that.

You don't really need a grounding wrist strap - that's a thing of the past. I just built my i3 build on Monday and didn't even need to use one.
September 1, 2011 9:36:59 PM

g-unit1111 said:
Wow, that's insane! :ouch: 

Then yeah definitely get a 3TB or two if you need the storage, you should get a Z68-based motherboard as they'll have support for 3TB hard drives built-in.

As for the SSD it really depends on what you want to run. If you just want to use it for the basics (OS, etc) then it just depends. I'd look at getting a 60GB or a 120GB SSD for that.

You don't really need a grounding wrist strap - that's a thing of the past. I just built my i3 build on Monday and didn't even need to use one.




I want to say I am running around 1300 movies, and 20 tv series on the one seagate! I have been collecting movies and music for.....wow, almost 25 years!
a b B Homebuilt system
September 1, 2011 9:41:37 PM

Well the thing I'd like to point out is the price of the 3TB seagate. It's $180, which can almost buy you 6TB in the form of these drives: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... So in the end, you pay quite a bit more for that extra TB. I would suggest getting 2TB storage drives instead of 3TB ones.
September 2, 2011 12:54:54 AM

I agree striker, thanks for the heads up! ...I also agree with aznshinobi about the i5 instead of the i7.

So no opinions on the GB G1 Sniper 2 z68 board?
September 2, 2011 2:03:47 PM

Question? The seagate you suggested is only 5900 rpm. Am I better off staying with 7200 rpm's, or that stuff way overated rated? Next Question, What's with the cache on hdd's, and whats up with the sata, and 6 or 3gb's? ZThanks for helping with the stupid questions too!
a b B Homebuilt system
September 2, 2011 2:40:43 PM

Not sure about the G1 sniper board. I know it's a "luxury" board, not much more.

As for the drives, the 5900RPM will make them slightly slower than the 7200RPM ones. HOWEVER since they are storage drives, it does not matter. Really the only time you will even notice a delay would be when booting the OS. Since you aren't putting and OS on them, no worries! Storage drives are traditionally slower.

And about cache and 6Gb/s vs 3Gb/s. Cache doesn't matter very much. They put 64MB in larger drives because the improved cache will help slightly when moving bigger files. But honestly, it's not something to worry about IMO.

Now, for the different speeds. What's the difference? Lol, there is none! It's a marketing ploy to make you think the drives are faster than they really are.

An HDD runs around 130MB/s (I think) while the limit on Sata 3Gb/s (aka Sata II) is 280MB/s. So HDD's dont run anywhere near the max speed of that channel.

Sata 6Gb/s (Sata III) is only utilized by SSD's right now. If you see it on an HDD, it doesn't matter, as it doesn't mean the drive is any faster.

So in summary, cache barely matters and Sata II vs Sata III doesn't matter AT ALL for hard disk drives.

Sorry for the extremely long and complicated answer, I did the best I could lol.
September 3, 2011 1:35:01 AM

Not a long answer, but definitely put in lamens terms, thanks!

Okay, so, I am better with the i5 for what i want to do, definitley go z68, as boards branding hasnt been an issue. My memory is fine, Every one agrees on running my os on a ssd, and for pictures and music, 5900rpm is fine on an hdd. All of this cache and sata, 6gb and 3gb stuff is just a useless marketing ploy to enhance the sale of traditional hhd's. Everybody pretty much like my case and power supply, blue ray burners...not much to talk about really. 3.5" bay temp monitors look really cool for display, and my viewsonic monitor will have to due for now, as my build will put the squeeze on the wallet, keyboard will probably be logitech gaming. Going to install Win 7 ultimate OEM, Do games stored on pc, need to be on a faster hhd? Any final suggestions, before there is NO turning back? Then my next thread, will be to get it all to work! Thanks, for all the help!!!!
September 17, 2011 3:47:25 PM

Here is he update with pics:


COOLER MASTER HAF X Blue Edition RC-942-KKN3 w/ extra top fan!

GIGABYTE G1.SNIPER2 LGA 1155 Intel Z68

Intel Core i7-2600K Sandy Bridge 3.4GHz

CORSAIR Vengeance 16GB (4 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3

OCZ Vertex 3 Series – MAX IOPS Edition VTX3MI-25SAT3-120G 2.5"

EVGA 02G-P3-1568-KR GeForce GTX 560 Ti (Fermi)

HITACHI Deskstar H3IK30003272SW 3TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb Internal Hard Drive

LITE-ON 12X BD-R 2X BD-RE 16X DVD+R 12X DVD-RAM 8X BD-ROM 8MB Cache SATA Blu-ray Burner with 3D Playback

Logitech G19 Black 104 Normal Keys USB Wired Standard Gaming Keyboard

Logitech G700 Black 13 Buttons Tilt Wheel USB RF Wireless Laser 5700 dpi Gaming Mouse

Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate

Bose Companion® 5 multimedia speaker system

ViewSonic VX2035wm***

**** Next question---- I want a large 3D gaming monitor, suggestions?

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