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2011 Gaming build (trying not to exceed $900)

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September 1, 2011 4:54:50 AM

Approximate Purchase Date: Within the next month.


Budget Range: Trying not to exceed $900 after rebates


System Usage from Most to Least Important: GAAAAAAAAAAMING! BF3, arkham city, d3, borderlands 2, etc


Parts Not Required: Mouse, keyboard, headset, monitor.


Preferred Website(s) for Parts: newegg or amazon is fine!


Country of Origin: USA


Parts Preferences: No pref. really


Overclocking: No


SLI or Crossfire: Maybe


Monitor Resolution: 1680x1050


Additional Comments: Nothing really, just looking for insight on my picked parts!


CPU: Core i5 2500K LGA 1155 -$179.99
HSF: CoolerMaster Hyper 212 $27.99
Mobo: ASUS P8H61-M - $84.99 ($79.99 after $5 instant rebate)
Memory: G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB $44.99
Case: Antec Nine Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower - $105.99 ($99.99 after $6.00 rebate)
PSU: CORSAIR Enthusiast Series CMPSU-650TX $119.99 ($79.99 after $25 + $15 rebates)
GPu: EVGA GeForce GTX 570 HD (Fermi)


Price of this setup is ~$832

I'm not sure if I picked the right mobo...


I was thinking of picking this RAM instead: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I was also thinking about this case, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... but I have this case at the moment and I hate it. I feel like there's not enough air flow...so I'm just biased against it :[

Advice/help/insight greatly appreciated!

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September 1, 2011 5:10:28 AM

the H61 has no overclock ability, making a 2500K pointless.

get a Z68 or P67 mobo instead
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September 1, 2011 5:36:48 AM

Check my sig. The $1000 build has a GTX570 and Z68 mobo (includes OS).

Also, if you won't be OC'ing, drop down to a i5 2500 (without K) and skip the cooler.
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September 1, 2011 4:23:09 PM

Zero_ said:
Check my sig. The $1000 build has a GTX570 and Z68 mobo (includes OS).

Also, if you won't be OC'ing, drop down to a i5 2500 (without K) and skip the cooler.



I cant find the 2500 on microcenter but it's on newegg for $209, whereas the 2500K is @ microcenter for 180.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I found that but the reviews leave me suspicious...
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September 1, 2011 4:40:15 PM

Maybe it's a good idea to add a Full HD monitor to your budget. You don't want to have a high end graphics card and play @1680x1050
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September 1, 2011 5:21:45 PM

Check out my $850 build. A few parts would be bit of an improvement.
http://www.squidoo.com/electronicandmore

1680x1050 is defiantly a "gaming" end monitor. You'd need a bit of graphical power to even run BC2 at max, my 5850 struggles. Though that is MAX, BF3 would still require a bit of graphical power especially since the pre-alpha showed the 5850/6850 was exactly able to keep up at max on 1680x1050.
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September 1, 2011 5:53:55 PM

aznshinobi said:
Check out my $850 build. A few parts would be bit of an improvement.
http://www.squidoo.com/electronicandmore

1680x1050 is defiantly a "gaming" end monitor. You'd need a bit of graphical power to even run BC2 at max, my 5850 struggles. Though that is MAX, BF3 would still require a bit of graphical power especially since the pre-alpha showed the 5850/6850 was exactly able to keep up at max on 1680x1050.


Gaming monitor is something with 1920x1080 Full HD resolution. Nothing else.
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September 1, 2011 6:05:27 PM

^ Can you give me some sites where it says that is the only gaming resolution?
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September 1, 2011 6:30:03 PM

Processor: Intel Core i5 2500k $219.99
HSF: CoolerMaster Hyper 212+ $27.99
Mobo: Asrock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3 ATX $129.99
RAM: Gskill RipjawsX 2x4GB 1.5V CAS9 1600Mhz $54.99
GPU: EVGA SuperClocked 01G-P3-1567-KR GeForce GTX 560 Ti (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 - $219.99
HDD: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB 7200rpm $59.99
DVD: LG DVD R/W $18.99
Case: Antec 300 Illusion $44.99
PSU: Corsair Enthusiast Series TX750 V2 750W $99.99

Total : $880 after rebates
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September 1, 2011 7:47:45 PM

008Rohit said:
Processor: Intel Core i5 2500k $219.99
HSF: CoolerMaster Hyper 212+ $27.99
Mobo: Asrock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3 ATX $129.99
RAM: Gskill RipjawsX 2x4GB 1.5V CAS9 1600Mhz $54.99
GPU: EVGA SuperClocked 01G-P3-1567-KR GeForce GTX 560 Ti (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 - $219.99
HDD: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB 7200rpm $59.99
DVD: LG DVD R/W $18.99
Case: Antec 300 Illusion $44.99
PSU: Corsair Enthusiast Series TX750 V2 750W $99.99

Total : $880 after rebates



Looks pretty damn good.

It would actually be less than $880 cause I don't need the DVD or HDD components, so that would be ~-$80. Also, I can pick-up the processor from Microcenter for $180, so that would be another -$40 coming to ~$760, which is damn excellent!

How does that graphics card compare to the GTX570? http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/high_end_gpus.html is that reliable at all?

Before you posted, I had picked out this mobo: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... . How does that compare to the one you recommend?

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September 1, 2011 7:54:02 PM

-____- Same build as my siggy build. SMH.
Just pick up the products where you get them cheapest, reputable ones at least.
Can't go wrong with the D3H, the Gen3 is also good.
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September 1, 2011 8:10:59 PM

pancho are you op? lol
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September 1, 2011 8:19:31 PM

michxymi said:
Gaming monitor is something with 1920x1080 Full HD resolution. Nothing else.

correction:
Gaming monitor is something with 1920x1080 Full HD resolution 120 hz . Nothing less.

do you live in a small pad? or big house? If small pad I suggest you using a cheaper USB WIFI adapter.
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September 1, 2011 8:26:47 PM

the antec 300 is a rather small case, im using one right now and its really cramped. the 9800gt im using has like 1/4 inch of clearance from the hard drives. i mean yeah its sturdy and what not, but i dont like it. but thats just me.
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September 1, 2011 8:40:46 PM
September 1, 2011 9:07:01 PM

aznshinobi said:
That sites about right
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/330?vs=306
The 560 Ti I posted (MSI TFII OC) is pretty much at the 570's performance though.
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2011/01/27/ms...
Much lower on thermals and quieter too.


wow yeah, you're totally right! I'm really considering the 560 now...

also, how exactly do you know that a case will be big enough? I was recommended this one, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... , $70 after rebates.
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September 1, 2011 9:11:41 PM

^ That case is great, me and Screwy were just suggesting USB3 cases, the Scout is superb case. Have one myself.
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September 1, 2011 9:28:06 PM

One is a GTX 560 NO TI (the evga 1)
One is the GTX 560 Ti (The MSI 1)
Also, the MSI one has a better heatsink.
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September 1, 2011 9:34:35 PM

aznshinobi said:
One is a GTX 560 NO TI (the evga 1)
One is the GTX 560 Ti (The MSI 1)
Also, the MSI one has a better heatsink.


haha, yeah i totally saw that just before i read your post! =P

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

any reason to take this mobo over the one you recommended? what should i be looking for when picking mobos?
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September 1, 2011 9:39:25 PM

Please make it unprivate. We can't see it.
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September 1, 2011 9:42:26 PM

Hm, I was sure it was public. Try now.

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September 1, 2011 9:46:20 PM

Hmm I can't see it. Mind just posting the parts?
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September 2, 2011 3:23:16 AM

The GTX 560Ti is a good card.
According to a few sources, it will be able to run BF3 at max settings at 1680x1050 and atleast at medium settings at 1920x1080.

The GTX 570 obviously is a more powerful card but you can add another GTX 560Ti in SLI if you need more power. Plus, that 560 is an overclocking beast!

The ASRock board has PCIe 3.0 slots so it'll support future cards. And you can upgrade to Ivy Bridge easily.

Good Luck.
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September 2, 2011 3:29:44 AM

^ I believe Ivy will be its own socket.

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September 2, 2011 3:33:11 AM

According to the speculations,

Ivy Bridge processors having upto 4 cores will support LGA1155. and six or more core processors will support LGA2011. Which is a replacement of LGA1366.
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September 2, 2011 4:17:59 AM

Source?
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September 2, 2011 4:31:07 AM

Whoa why wouldnt you save 60$ and the get the amd phenom 955 black quad core that easy overclocks to 4.0ghz stable you wont need more for gaming and you can get a mother board that you can put a 8 core bulldozer chip in i would upgrading your monitor is the first thing you should do even maybe just buying 3 i have a 24" asus and it made the biggest diference in my gaming experience i cant imagine what 3 would do... so take that into mind also an SSD makes things very smooth and fast get a 120gb crucial for about 240$ on newegg or 120$ for the 60gb just a thought if your gonna drop 200+on a video card drop 200 + on the monitor your gonna look at the graphics on at least...
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September 2, 2011 4:44:18 AM

^ Then why would you waste your money on the 955 when the BD chips release in 18 days? You don't need to buy a new monitor to game. I've used the same LG LED 22" 1680x1050 to game for 2 years and it's done me some justice especially with the awesome quality. If his monitor works, it doesn't need to be changed specially one of 1680x1050.

Another thing, why get a Crucial M4 120GB @ $240? An OCZ Solid 3 120GB costs $170 and the 60GB OCZ Solid 3 is only $105 w/ a rebate avail.

To the 4ghz overclock, can you guarantee that? I'm proof that it's not "easy" to get to 4ghz on a 955. You'd also need adequate cooling as well. Though overclocking the 955 is easy to get to lower clocks like 3.6-3.8 after that much tweaking is involved.
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September 2, 2011 12:43:21 PM

@ aznshinobi

I've read on some website. Cant remember which one. and can't find now too, as My new mobo is yet to come.
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September 2, 2011 6:39:31 PM

Ahhh I See...
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September 2, 2011 7:11:47 PM

well, wikipedia mentions ivy as a die shrink of sandy, so we shall see.
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September 2, 2011 8:32:21 PM

^ Yes, I've read about that as well. Haswell will be the largest improvement w/ new arch.
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September 3, 2011 1:54:10 AM

First of all noone mantions P67 mobos? What r u bunch of video converters? Z68 ($130) range will not let u oc over 4- 4.2 Ghz.
No point of getting PCI 3.0 mobo when by the time those cards come out and games will use that technology everything will be way cheaper and new standards will pop up. No point on waiting to upgrade to ivy bridge and "futureproofing' as cheapest IB will be 300 green ones. And I would not trust anandtech as they have old benchmarks and only few games. Check hardwareheaven and toms own articles. I would rather get HD 6950 2Gb from Sapphire then 560Ti. And new monitor in the future.
And bulldozer is allready coming out for a month ... will se if new CEO will push it even further in a attempt to catch intel and trying to be a "predators". Also u have no idea how bull will scale up against let's say 2500k. Also I think 2500k is a sweet spot for now plus u can oc it with right mobo and cooling to 5ghz. No current games will use more then 4 cores and not even in near future
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September 3, 2011 5:14:51 AM

^ Please state where you've heard the limit on Z68 $130 boards is 4ghz to 4.3ghz. Do tell.

Also, Tom's isn't always right. The 560 Ti can easily OC to the 570's level and further, the 6950 2GB can get to the 6970. Either way they are pretty much on par. You're pretty much wrong there. Also you're wrong again. 7xxx and Maxwell will also use PCI 3.0 actually it'll be standard. So yes, there is a reason to future-proof. Especially since in Q4 2011 7xxx is expected to be released.

Another thing, 5ghz "on the right motherboard" how wrong could you be. It depends more on the grade of the CPU than the motherboard. Oh why don't we look here.
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=1894669
5GHZ on a P8P67? That's a $140 board. Granted not the Z68 proof. But proof enough that a $140 board can still get high OCs. It all depends on CPU grade more than MB.
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September 3, 2011 8:40:16 PM

too many "you r wrong" too little reasoning.
First of all multiple forums as a newegg reviews suggest that u will not be able to go past 4.2 Ghz on cheap Z68 board. Just google it if u can't find it.
U have no idea which chipsets will support pci 3.0 as ur not a manufacturer and o point of future proofing again.
Second 560Ti only certain brands like Point of View 3 fan one can reach (barely) 570 and it costs almost 300. So ur wrong again. 6950 2gb will outperform 560ti (supposedly both not oced) and don't throw anandtech bench at me as they have outdated resources and benchmarks.
Grade of CPU ? well please tell me where can I get AAA grade CPUs ? please tell wrong again ...it does depends on mobo .. u can OC pentium 430 to 9 ghz on right mobo with liquid nitrogen
as for Z68 boards it has something to do with bios
and the link u put on is for P67 mobo yeah I agree and never said that P67 can not oc .. it will and outperform Z68 mobo in a same price range (i.e. 140$)
PLEASE read carefully, as I said specifically Z68 board in 130$ range will not let u oc too far, before making any assumptions

touche
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September 3, 2011 8:41:54 PM

also go buy Z68 mobo .. prefferably the one Why_me pushing in every build Asrock gen 3 for 130$ and i5-2500k and oc it to 5ghz and then show me ur CPU-Z and then we'll talk
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September 4, 2011 4:51:35 AM

7000 series to be PCI 3.0
http://www.techpowerup.com/149225/AMD-Radeon-HD-7000-Se...

Lol at your ignorance again.
MSI TFII 560 Ti OC
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2011/01/27/ms...
MSI TFII 560 Ti OC $245
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
That's cheaper than the cheapest 6950 2GB before rebates.

Z68A-D3H-B3 5ghz
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/motherboards/2011/07/1...
"Setting LLC back to its default setting of ‘Auto’ cleared up the problem and enabled us to push our test Core i5-2500K towards its 5.1GHz limit. Unfortunately, the D3H couldn’t manage to reach this level, instead topping out at a still highly respectable 5GHz stable overclock."
So... It overclocks to 5ghz stable and is only $122.

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September 4, 2011 5:28:50 AM

madchemist83 said:
First of all noone mantions P67 mobos? What r u bunch of video converters? Z68 ($130) range will not let u oc over 4- 4.2 Ghz.
No point of getting PCI 3.0 mobo when by the time those cards come out and games will use that technology everything will be way cheaper and new standards will pop up. No point on waiting to upgrade to ivy bridge and "futureproofing' as cheapest IB will be 300 green ones. And I would not trust anandtech as they have old benchmarks and only few games. Check hardwareheaven and toms own articles. I would rather get HD 6950 2Gb from Sapphire then 560Ti. And new monitor in the future.
And bulldozer is allready coming out for a month ... will se if new CEO will push it even further in a attempt to catch intel and trying to be a "predators". Also u have no idea how bull will scale up against let's say 2500k. Also I think 2500k is a sweet spot for now plus u can oc it with right mobo and cooling to 5ghz. No current games will use more then 4 cores and not even in near future

lol? Do you know what a Z68 board even is? It's a combination of a H67 and P67. And your saying you can't o/c a $130 Z68 board further than 4.2?

Well let's see...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $121.99
GIGABYTE GA-Z68A-D3H-B3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

Quote:
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/motherboards/2011/07/1...

Setting LLC back to its default setting of ‘Auto’ cleared up the problem and enabled us to push our test Core i5-2500K towards its 5.1GHz limit. Unfortunately, the D3H couldn’t manage to reach this level, instead topping out at a still highly respectable 5GHz stable overclock
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $109.99
ASRock Z68 PRO3-M LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard

Quote:
http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/4100/asrock_z68_pro3_m...

This brought our CPU to 4.92GHz which was what we achieved on the Z68 Pro3 from ASRock. So with our overclock set and everything running smoothly, it's time to see what kind of performance we can get out of this mATX board.


The $125 Asrock extreme3 Gen3 uses the same 8+4 power phase configuration as the $190 Asrock extreme4 Gen3.

Quote:
http://www.vortez.net/articles_pages/asrock_z68_extreme...

5GHz was attainable with 1.45v – a significant milestone and an impressive result for the Extreme4 Gen3. For a motherboard at mainstream pricing this will bring joy to many hardware enthusiasts out there!





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September 4, 2011 5:38:37 AM

^ Well more proof for ya.
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September 4, 2011 5:56:02 AM

^ I realize SB-E will replace 1366, I just wanted to know where they stated 1155 would work with 2011. I see now.
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September 4, 2011 5:56:44 AM

madchemist83 said:
also go buy Z68 mobo .. prefferably the one Why_me pushing in every build Asrock gen 3 for 130$ and i5-2500k and oc it to 5ghz and then show me ur CPU-Z and then we'll talk

You gain little if any in FPS when you o/c past 4.4 - 4.6ghz with these 1155 boards, so why in the world would someone run their rig @ 5.0ghz in regards to gaming ?
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