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How my first Gaming Rig will perform in Metro 2033?

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July 1, 2011 7:44:24 AM

Specs-
GPU- Radeon HD 6590 1GB
Cpu- Phenom II X4 955
8GB DDR3 RAM

Res-1600*900(not going to upgrade)

So, how much FPS will i get in Metro 2033 in Maximum settimgs with full AA and others?
a b U Graphics card
July 1, 2011 7:48:24 AM

It would probably give you 60 fps with vsync on at that resolution. If it doesn't overclock the CPU.
a b U Graphics card
July 1, 2011 7:53:25 AM

With full AA? ~25-30

That could be very inaccurate, but @1680x1050 with 0xAA on a 6950, you only get ~40
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July 1, 2011 7:56:56 AM

What about crysis?
a b U Graphics card
July 1, 2011 8:01:58 AM

It'll give you the exact save performance in Metro 2033.

Crysis 2 is a console port and a joke for the 6950.
July 1, 2011 8:17:49 AM

browsingtheworld said:
It'll give you the exact save performance in Metro 2033.

Crysis 2 is a console port and a joke for the 6950.

does crysis 1 require less resource than metro 2033?
a b U Graphics card
July 1, 2011 9:21:00 AM

Crysis and Metro are *the* GPU benchmarks of this decade, and will likely remain so for 2-5 more years....
a b U Graphics card
July 1, 2011 10:35:20 AM

mdd1963 said:
Crysis and Metro are *the* GPU benchmarks of this decade, and will likely remain so for 2-5 more years....

Witcher 2 says hi.

Crysis 1 isn't that demanding. Still inefficient but it'll run smoothly on a GTX 460 maxed out, much less a 6950.
a b U Graphics card
July 1, 2011 10:41:24 AM

browsingtheworld said:
Witcher 2 says hi.

Crysis 1 isn't that demanding. Still inefficient but it'll run smoothly on a GTX 460 maxed out, much less a 6950.

I am tired of seeing you posting"the gtx 460 maxes...the gtx 460 maxes that".My friend owns a gtx 460 and his fps is similar to my gtx 275 in crysis.With the 460 he can max out the game but he has to keep shaders on high.Witcher 2 is only demamding if you enable ubersampling.My GTX 275 maxes out withcer 2 without any problems BUT with ubersampling disabled.Besides I don't see a difference with it on.Crysis is still the most demanding game of all time after metro 2033.
a b U Graphics card
July 1, 2011 10:55:47 AM

Quote:
I am tired of seeing you posting"the gtx 460 maxes...the gtx 460 maxes that".My friend owns a gtx 460 and his fps is similar to my gtx 275 in crysis.With the 460 he can max out the game but he has to keep shaders on high.Witcher 2 is only demamding if you enable ubersampling.My GTX 275 maxes out withcer 2 without any problems BUT with ubersampling disabled.Besides I don't see a difference with it on.Crysis is still the most demanding game of all time after metro 2033.

What the hell.I clicked submit and server posted by message 3 times.lol

So the 460 can max out Crysis...

Obviously if Witcher 2 uses ubersampling it's more demanding than Crysis so it's not the second most demanding game of all time.

I like how "your friend" has become a reliable source.

Here's benchmarks for Crysis Warhead at 1680x1050, a resolution higher than what he will use.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/3809/nvidias-geforce-gtx-...
Looks pretty playable to me.
a b U Graphics card
July 1, 2011 11:03:23 AM

browsingtheworld said:
So the 460 can max out Crysis...

Obviously if Witcher 2 uses ubersampling it's more demanding than Crysis so it's not the second most demanding game of all time.

I like how "your friend" has become a reliable source.

Here's benchmarks for Crysis Warhead at 1680x1050, a resolution higher than what he will use.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/3809/nvidias-geforce-gtx-...
Looks pretty playable to me.

Oh yeah?If you would have looked closely at the benchmarks you would have found that they have benched the gpu with gamer quality but with enthusiast shaders.That's not max setting.I feel that everything maxed but shaders high will give better quality.In any case your benchmarks just confirmed that the gtx 460 cannot max crysis.My gtx 275 and core i7 870 are slightly slower than a gtx 460 but crysis is UNPLAYABLE even at 1680X1050 if you put everything on very high in dx 10.dx9 does make it playable but in ice levels the game will lag you out.Its obivous that you haven't played crysis on a gtx 460.

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2009/09/22/amds_ati_rade...

EVEN A 5870 has trouble playing crysis at 1080p.At 1680X1050 the fps will be around 30-32 which is playable.A 5870 is a minimum to max out crysis even at 1680X1050.Just look at your benchmarks before posting :non: 
a b U Graphics card
July 1, 2011 11:04:53 AM

browsingtheworld said:
So the 460 can max out Crysis...

Obviously if Witcher 2 uses ubersampling it's more demanding than Crysis so it's not the second most demanding game of all time.

I like how "your friend" has become a reliable source.

Here's benchmarks for Crysis Warhead at 1680x1050, a resolution higher than what he will use.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/3809/nvidias-geforce-gtx-...
Looks pretty playable to me.

http://www.geforce.com/#/Optimize/Guides/witcher-2-twea...

The graph shows that UberSampling is by far the single most demanding setting in The Witcher 2, reducing FPS by around 60% at each resolution. In fact no current single GPU setup can run TW2 with UberSampling smoothly at higher settings. UberSampling therefore is designed primarily for high-end multi-GPU configurations, and also future single GPUs. Given that it provides only a slight improvement in image quality for a massive hit in terms of performance, UberSampling is the first setting all users should consider disabling before moving on to examine the performance impact of any other settings.

even a gtx 590 has trouble with ubersampling.I consider the setting not optimised well because even on a gtx 580 you get 22-23 fps when enabling it
a b U Graphics card
July 1, 2011 11:19:48 AM

celpas said:
Oh yeah?If you would have looked closely at the benchmarks you would have found that they have benched the gpu with gamer quality but with enthusiast shaders.That's not max setting.I feel that everything maxed but shaders high will give better quality.In any case your benchmarks just confirmed that the gtx 460 cannot max crysis.My gtx 275 and core i7 870 are slightly slower than a gtx 460 but crysis is UNPLAYABLE even at 1680X1050 if you put everything on very high in dx 10.dx9 does make it playable but in ice levels the game will lag you out.Its obivous that you haven't played crysis on a gtx 460.

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2009/09/22/amds_ati_rade...

EVEN A 5870 has trouble playing crysis at 1080p.At 1680X1050 the fps will be around 30-32 which is playable.A 5870 is a minimum to max out crysis even at 1680X1050.Just look at your benchmarks before posting :non: 

Again, you are not a source

The benchmark shows a different video card on at a different resolution, I fail to see how that's relevant. I already linked a benchmark where the 460 had 41 fps at 1680x1050.

Quote:
The graph shows that UberSampling is by far the single most demanding setting in The Witcher 2

So Witcher 2 with ubersampling on is one of the most demanding 3D games therefore it's a better benchmark than Crysis 2.

The game that gives you less frames is the more demanding benchmark. Witcher 2 with ubersampling on gives you less frames than Crysis therefore it's a more demanding benchmark. Your personal opinion about efficiency has nothing to do with it.
a b U Graphics card
July 1, 2011 12:17:33 PM

browsingtheworld said:
Again, you are not a source

The benchmark shows a different video card on at a different resolution, I fail to see how that's relevant. I already linked a benchmark where the 460 had 41 fps at 1680x1050.

Quote:
The graph shows that UberSampling is by far the single most demanding setting in The Witcher 2

So Witcher 2 with ubersampling on is one of the most demanding 3D games therefore it's a better benchmark than Crysis 2.

The game that gives you less frames is the more demanding benchmark. Witcher 2 with ubersampling on gives you less frames than Crysis therefore it's a more demanding benchmark. Your personal opinion about efficiency has nothing to do with it.

Quote:
Crysis 1 isn't that demanding. Still inefficient but it'll run smoothly on a GTX 460 maxed out

http://www.anandtech.com/show/3809/nvidias-geforce-gtx-...
In the benchmark the game isn't maxed out.Secondly I think you haven't ever played crysis before because you don't realize that the shaders setting in the game is A WHOPPING FPS KILLER.The fps impact is even greater than 16XAA in warhead and the image quality improvement is also considerably improved.If you increase that setting to max and lower everything down to high including AA of course the game will run at 41 fps.But you will get tremendous pop in at gamer(I have tried gamer object detail personally and enthusiast object detail.The water quality is degraded as is shadow quality.Using those settings of course the gtx 460 gets 41 fps.My oced 275 gets 40-50 on those very settings.You posted above 2 times that the 460 will max out crysis but the benchmark you posted obivously shows that to run crysis at an acceptable frame rate you need to lower pretty much all settings to gamer.

As far as my link is concerned I showed you that since a 5870 maxes out crysis at 1080p with only 26 fps its only logical to assume that it will get 31-32 fps at 1680X1050.Now the 460 even highly oced is nowhere near a 5870 which is close to a gtx 480.Getting 41 fps WITH ALL SETTINGS AT ENTHUSIAST is called maxing out a game.

BTW as far as witcher 2 is concerned there is no point in benchmarking the game as EVEN dual gpu monsters like 6990 and 590 can't access ubersamping.The settings is plainly unoptimised pure and simple.If you take such unoptimised games into accounts gta 4 is even more demanding than crysis because even now it still runs at 25-30 fps on the very best pcs.
a b U Graphics card
July 1, 2011 12:26:42 PM

Heres the chart which shows where a 460 stands.Its only 5% faster than a gtx 275 896mb.Mine is a gtx 275 1792mb which means that my card is nearly as powerful as a 460
July 1, 2011 1:53:34 PM

Okay guys keep on posting. :) 

Btw i think the 6950 can max out metro and crysis, isnt it?

But in any of the benchmark the name of the Processor is not given. So, will my processor be enough to max out those games? Cause my phenom 955 is not as much as powerful as i5 2500 though. I cannot afford it also. So am confused here.
a b U Graphics card
July 1, 2011 2:04:43 PM

rickytrux11 said:
Okay guys keep on posting. :) 

Btw i think the 6950 can max out metro and crysis, isnt it?

But in any of the benchmark the name of the Processor is not given. So, will my processor be enough to max out those games? Cause my phenom 955 is not as much as powerful as i5 2500 though. I cannot afford it also. So am confused here.

metro 2033 as not at all cpu dependant unless you turn on physx.At your resolution you should be able to play metro at very high with tesselation but no depth of field and anti aliasing.You can max out crysis with 8X AA ;) 
July 1, 2011 2:26:50 PM

but wont any game realease within 2yrs which will require more than metro? The witcher 2 already require more than 5750.
July 1, 2011 2:58:00 PM

The 6950 is a beast, it can handle both Crysis and Metro 2033 maxed out with 45-55 fps, but not 60.
But with full AA, and 1600x900, you may see some hiccups. At 1600x900 even 2x AA is enough and if you want full 60 fps smooth gameplay, then I would suggest you to overclock it a little bit.
For other less demanding games, the 6950 can give you 60 fps easily.
July 1, 2011 3:15:05 PM

okay. Thanks you kow its price?
July 1, 2011 3:50:38 PM

but bro, on lynx its only rs13500.
July 1, 2011 7:00:33 PM

My 5870 has trouble with metro 2033 and crysis 1 on high settings. Crysis 2 is not as demanding as metro 2033. This guy said he had a 6590? Did he mean 6950? I didn't know they made a 6590, but if thats what he's running it probably wont run any of these games well if it will run them at all.
a b U Graphics card
July 1, 2011 7:36:26 PM

celpas said:
As far as my link is concerned I showed you that since a 5870 maxes out crysis at 1080p with only 26 fps its only logical to assume that it will get 31-32 fps at 1680X1050.Now the 460 even highly oced is nowhere near a 5870 which is close to a gtx 480.Getting 41 fps WITH ALL SETTINGS AT ENTHUSIAST is called maxing out a game.

BTW as far as witcher 2 is concerned there is no point in benchmarking the game as EVEN dual gpu monsters like 6990 and 590 can't access ubersamping.

Again, you're showing a different video card at a different resolution... which doesn't translate to what FPS you get in Crysis.

The GTX 460 can be overclocked almost as fast as the 5870 so I don't get where this "nowhere near" comes from. Probably can't turn AA past 2X but even at 8X the vegetation is still jagged. I was just giving an example of a card that definitely can play Crysis smoothly with all settings on enthusiast and 2X AA.

You should still get ~30 fps with everything on enthusiast at 1600x900 with a reference card.

That's your personal opinion about Witcher 2. The fact is it will be much more demanding than Crysis could possibly be when you turn on ubersampling.

rickytrux11 said:
Okay guys keep on posting. :) 

Btw i think the 6950 can max out metro and crysis, isnt it?

But in any of the benchmark the name of the Processor is not given. So, will my processor be enough to max out those games? Cause my phenom 955 is not as much as powerful as i5 2500 though. I cannot afford it also. So am confused here.

They usually use i7s which are faster than your Phenom, if you want to get the maximum performance you possibly can from the 6950 you might want to overclock but it shouldn't be much of a problem at 1600x900.

Yes, the 6950 can max Crysis. I'm not sure what full AA is but I'm sure it can run 4x smoothly enough.
a b U Graphics card
July 1, 2011 7:39:52 PM

rickytrux11 said:
Specs-
GPU- Radeon HD 6590 1GB
Cpu- Phenom II X4 955
8GB DDR3 RAM

Res-1600*900(not going to upgrade)

So, how much FPS will i get in Metro 2033 in Maximum settimgs with full AA and others?

Why don't you download the demo and tell us all?
a b U Graphics card
July 1, 2011 11:37:42 PM

The phrase, "max out" seems to cause much grief....; some say their card can 'max out Crysis' even if running midrange settings and delivering only 15-20 fps, considered unplayable by most conventional thinking today....

Someone else posted benchmarks that used 'gamer quality', so obviously the game is not yet 'maxed out', but an adaptation of settings (i.e., lowering of settings) to the type of card (mid range vs. flagship) being used has occured....
July 2, 2011 6:32:03 AM

Kkkk1 said:
Why don't you download the demo and tell us all?

i have not yet build the pc.
July 2, 2011 9:24:46 AM

i think you can play all the games on max but not shogung total war or brink then you need a i5 processor that i recommendent for you to play games of 2012
a b U Graphics card
July 2, 2011 9:41:48 AM

browsingtheworld said:
Again, you're showing a different video card at a different resolution... which doesn't translate to what FPS you get in Crysis.

The GTX 460 can be overclocked almost as fast as the 5870 so I don't get where this "nowhere near" comes from. Probably can't turn AA past 2X but even at 8X the vegetation is still jagged. I was just giving an example of a card that definitely can play Crysis smoothly with all settings on enthusiast and 2X AA.

You should still get ~30 fps with everything on enthusiast at 1600x900 with a reference card.

That's your personal opinion about Witcher 2. The fact is it will be much more demanding than Crysis could possibly be when you turn on ubersampling.


They usually use i7s which are faster than your Phenom, if you want to get the maximum performance you possibly can from the 6950 you might want to overclock but it shouldn't be much of a problem at 1600x900.

Yes, the 6950 can max Crysis. I'm not sure what full AA is but I'm sure it can run 4x smoothly enough.

I GIVE UP.YoU are obivously some ten year old who doesn't own crysis or a gtx 460 for that matter.You are saying that a oced 460 is as fast as a 5870 when it is well known that the 5870 is nearly as fast as a gtx 480.If the gtx 460 could be oced that high at such a low price,nvidia would have had a job on their hands trying to sell their 570s and 580s :lol:  .And as far as maxing crysis warhead WITH 2XAA the gtx 460 would get crushed t those settings seeing as even the 5870 has trouble with that game.Unless of course you like playing at 20 fps.I am done arguing with you and your one of a kind gtx 460 which matches a 5870.
BTW care to prove this chart wrong.Its stating that on max settings the SUPERCLOCKED 460 gets 29 fps while the 5870 gets 40 fps.
I suppose you will now say the chart is false :lol: 



PLEASE NOTE THAT THAT ANANDTECH BENCHMARK YOU POSTED WAS NOT MAX SETTINGS
a b U Graphics card
July 2, 2011 10:01:22 AM

celpas said:
I GIVE UP.YoU are obivously some ten year old who doesn't own crysis or a gtx 460 for that matter.You are saying that a oced 460 is as fast as a 5870 when it is well known that the 5870 is nearly as fast as a gtx 480.If the gtx 460 could be oced that high at such a low price,nvidia would have had a job on their hands trying to sell their 570s and 580s :lol:  .And as far as maxing crysis warhead WITH 2XAA the gtx 460 would get crushed t those settings seeing as even the 5870 has trouble with that game.Unless of course you like playing at 20 fps.I am done arguing with you and your one of a kind gtx 460 which matches a 5870.
BTW care to prove this chart wrong.Its stating that on max settings the SUPERCLOCKED 460 gets 29 fps while the 5870 gets 40 fps.
I suppose you will now say the chart is false :lol: 

http://tpucdn.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_460_HAWK/images/crysis_1680_1050.gif

PLEASE NOTE THAT THAT ANANDTECH BENCHMARK YOU POSTED WAS NOT MAX SETTINGS

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_460_HAWK/31....
Superclocked means factory overclocked.
GTX 460 with the same performance as the 5870:

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_460_HAWK/31....

Pretty sure this shows the 460 can play Crysis 2 maxed at 1600x900 :pt1cable: 
a b U Graphics card
July 2, 2011 11:30:58 AM

browsingtheworld said:
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_460_HAWK/31....
Superclocked means factory overclocked.
GTX 460 with the same performance as the 5870:
http://tpucdn.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_460_HAWK/images/perf_oc.gif
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_460_HAWK/31....

Pretty sure this shows the 460 can play Crysis 2 maxed at 1600x900 :pt1cable: 


A pic of the gtx 275 getting more fps than a 5870 and the gtx 260 beating the 5850.Does this mean the 260 and 275 are more powerful than 5850 and 5870?NO.When you use low end games for benchmarking like call of duty then of course such weird results will occur.The fps is already in the 100s.When you increase the same settings to max then

The gtx 260 got shattered

The benchamrks only hold valid when you benchmark demanding games like crysis,warhead,metro and those too on on decent settings.When you bench metro on low myy 275 may come near a 5850 when it really is way weaker.Seriously,call of duty 4 is a OLD OLD OLD game.Its not demanding and just because the gtx 460 got 117 and the 5870 got 118 doesn't mean the 460 is more powerful.Look at the chart I posted above.It consist if crysis benched on max settings.The gtx 275 gor 23 fps,the 460 got 26 fps,the oced 460 got 29 fps,the 5870 got 40 fps.It takes 2 gtx 460's to beat a gtx 480 which is equal to the 5870.

BTW don't change the subject about gtx 460 maxing crysis.GTX 460 will max crysis 2 easily seeing as even my 275 can do that even with the latest patch.HOWEVER IT WON'T MAX CRYSIS 1.

I never meant to argue with you but I just don't want you misleading people who don't know anything about computers.The 5870 is slightly less powerful than 6950 which are one of the fastest single gpus available in the high end segment.The gtx 460,gtx 550 ti,5770,5830 are from the mid range segment.Even when highly oced none of them will come close to the high end segment when it comes to power.
a b U Graphics card
July 2, 2011 11:41:05 AM

celpas said:
Now the 460 even highly oced is nowhere near a 5870 which is close to a gtx 480.

You claimed that the overclocked 460 is not anywhere near the performance of the 5870 which is obviously false. There are many benchmarks showing the cards having similar performance:
http://www.guru3d.com/article/gigabyte-geforce-gtx-460-...
http://www.anandtech.com/show/3810/nvidias-geforce-gtx-...

In fact in the Anand's bench the overclocked 460 had the exact same frames as the 5870 in Crysis Warhead, a game you are specifically mentioning. :lol: 

From what's been shown it'll play Crysis maxed.
a b U Graphics card
July 2, 2011 11:58:10 AM

JESUS!HOW MANY TIMES SHOULD I TELL YOU THAT THE GAME SHOULD BE BE BENCHED AT NEAR MAX SETTINGS.IF YOU RUN CRYSIS AT HIGH SETTINGS LIKE ANANDTECH DID,YOU ARE NOT UTILISING THE 5870's potential.As far as guru 3d's benchmarks are concened,nvidia cards have physx turned on which inflates their results.If you run the benchmark with physx disabled then THE GTX 460 will get a lower score.Besides 3dmark has always been nvidia's specialty.Besides the 5870 can also be oced and it will again cover the perfomance difference.Besides how do you explain the results I posted above.How did the oced 460 get 29 fps while the 5870 got 40?

a b U Graphics card
July 2, 2011 12:02:46 PM

@OP Arguing with the above guy is a pain in the ass.He is way to biased about the 460 to see straight.The 6950 will play most 2011 games at max and later in 2012 if even more demanding games come you can always oc the 6950.At your resolution you should get around 50 fps in crysis with 4XAA
a b U Graphics card
July 2, 2011 12:03:32 PM

celpas said:
JESUS!HOW MANY TIMES SHOULD I TELL YOU THAT THE GAME SHOULD BE BE BENCHED AT NEAR MAX SETTINGS.IF YOU RUN CRYSIS AT HIGH SETTINGS LIKE ANANDTECH DID,YOU ARE NOT UTILISING THE 5870's potential.As far as guru 3d's benchmarks are concened,nvidia cards have physx turned on which inflates their results.If you run the benchmark with physx disabled then THE GTX 460 will get a lower score.Besides 3dmark has always been nvidia's specialty.Besides the 5870 can also be oced and it will again cover the perfomance difference.Besides how do you explain the results I posted above.How did the oced 460 get 29 fps while the 5870 got 40?

At 1920x1080 the 5870 is putting out 39.8 frames, the GPU is at 100% usage. Please explain to me how the 5870 is not being utilized to it's full potential in that benchmark.

Again, the superclocked benchmark showed a factory overclocked 460.
a b U Graphics card
July 2, 2011 12:08:06 PM

browsingtheworld said:
At 1920x1080 the 5870 is putting out 39.8 frames, the GPU is at 100% usage. Please explain to me how the 5870 is not being utilized to it's full potential in that benchmark.

Again, the superclocked benchmark showed a factory overclocked 460.

gpu usage and potential are 2 different things.If you put all settings to max then the 5870 will suffer a less performance drop because from a technical standpoint the 5870 is more powerful
http://www.hwcompare.com/8138/geforce-gtx-460-vs-radeon...
Performance-wise, the Radeon HD 5870 should in theory be much superior to the GeForce GTX 460 in general
The Radeon HD 5870 is quite a bit (approximately 80%) faster with regards to anisotropic filtering than the GeForce GTX 460
The Radeon HD 5870 will be much (approximately 68%) more effective at AA than the GeForce GTX 460, and also able to handle higher resolutions more effectively

BTW if you like to put your hardware at risk by ocing the 460 THAT much then its your call.Personally I don't like to overclock because of power and heat issues and the life of the card is also affected.If I think I need to overclock my card when I buy it I would save some more money and buy the 5870 becaus e you can oc it to 1GHZ easily.The comparison should be fair.Its either stock 460 vs stock 5870 or oced 460 vs oced 5870 in which case the 5870 wins
a b U Graphics card
July 2, 2011 12:24:33 PM

celpas said:
gpu usage and potential are 2 different things.If you put all settings to max then the 5870 will suffer a less performance drop because from a technical standpoint the 5870 is more powerful
http://www.hwcompare.com/8138/geforce-gtx-460-vs-radeon...
Performance-wise, the Radeon HD 5870 should in theory be much superior to the GeForce GTX 460 in general
The Radeon HD 5870 is quite a bit (approximately 80%) faster with regards to anisotropic filtering than the GeForce GTX 460
The Radeon HD 5870 will be much (approximately 68%) more effective at AA than the GeForce GTX 460, and also able to handle higher resolutions more effectively

BTW if you like to put your hardware at risk by ocing the 460 THAT much then its your call.Personally I don't like to overclock because of power and heat issues and the life of the card is also affected.If I think I need to overclock my card when I buy it I would save some more money and buy the 5870 becaus e you can oc it to 1GHZ easily.The comparison should be fair.Its either stock 460 vs stock 5870 or oced 460 vs oced 5870 in which case the 5870 wins

Again, the benchmarks are using 100% of the GPU and it can only produce 39.8 fps. I fail to see how it's not using it's full potential. What technical standpoint are you talking about? HWcompare doesn't even have any benchmarks for any games so it's pretty useless.

I don't care if you think you need to overclock, you said the overclocked GTX 460 is nowhere near the GTX 5870 when it can obviously match it's performance. Please stop injecting your opinions to distract us from the fact the GTX 460 can match the 5870 which you claimed was the minimum to max out Crysis at 1680x1050, a resolution higher than the OP's.
celpas said:
A 5870 is a minimum to max out crysis even at 1680X1050.Just look at your benchmarks before posting :non: 

a b U Graphics card
July 2, 2011 12:30:56 PM

browsingtheworld said:
Again, the benchmarks are using 100% of the GPU and it can only produce 39.8 fps. I fail to see how it's not using it's full potential. What technical standpoint are you talking about? HWcompare doesn't even have any benchmarks for any games so it's pretty useless.

I don't care if you think you need to overclock, you said the overclocked GTX 460 is nowhere near the GTX 5870 when it can obviously match it's performance. Please stop injecting your opinions to distract us from the fact the GTX 460 can match the 5870 which you claimed was the minimum to max out Crysis at 1680x1050, a resolution higher than the OP's.

LOLLOLLOL.Did you open my link.They have already given benchmarks for the 460 vs 5870.the oced 460 can never match the performance of a 5870 and thats a fact.How about we leave this thread as it is and start a poll and see who wins.We have hijacked the OP's thread.

http://www.hwcompare.com/8138/geforce-gtx-460-vs-radeon...
When combining all game benchmark scores together, the Radeon HD 5870 wins overall, by 160 FPS.

btw technical features like better texture fill rate,higher bandwith are useful once you start playing at higher resolutions
a b U Graphics card
July 2, 2011 12:37:33 PM

celpas said:
LOLLOLLOL.Did you open my link.They have already given benchmarks for the 460 vs 5870.the oced 460 can never match the performance of a 5870 and thats a fact.How about we leave this thread as it is and start a poll and see who wins.We have hijacked the OP's thread.

http://www.hwcompare.com/8138/geforce-gtx-460-vs-radeon...
When combining all game benchmark scores together, the Radeon HD 5870 wins overall, by 160 FPS.

btw technical features like better texture fill rate,higher bandwith are useful once you start playing at higher resolutions

From your link:
Quote:
Specifically, you will see us pit our HD 5870 against the new HD 6870 and HD 6850 and also against the reference GTX 460-1GB, the EVGA (highly) overclocked version, as well as the GTX 460-768 MB version in 22 modern games and 2 synthetic benchmarks using 1680x1050, 1920x1200 and 2560x1600 resolutions. Since we are using the fastest of the fast upper-midrange video cards, it makes sense to test at the highest resolutions that they can handle and with the most demanding settings. We shall also overclock our HD 68x0 cards to give you an idea of what AMD's board partners will soon be bringing you. In the above picture, the GTX 480 (top) and the non-reference design PowerColor HD 5870 PCS+ (left), are included for a visual size comparison.

http://www.evga.com/products/moreinfo.asp?pn=01G-P3-137...
They used a factory overclocked 460, what is so hard to understand?

The factory overclock is not anywhere near what typical overclocks for the 460 are as demonstrated by the fact the 460 can match the 5870.
July 2, 2011 1:37:09 PM

Okay guys,
If that is the case then tell me,
Which will be a better PC
for Gaming?

Phenom X4 955 with
Radeon HD 6950

OR

i5 2500 with Radeon
6850??

Both those combinations meet my budget but i dont know which one to choose.
HELP :( 
a b U Graphics card
July 2, 2011 1:40:10 PM

Any i3/5-2xxx series is better than the 955 system. You can afford an Intel based system that also has a 6950 that will be much faster than the 955.
July 2, 2011 1:55:24 PM

browsingtheworld said:
Any i3/5-2xxx series is better than the 955 system. You can afford an Intel based system that also has a 6950 that will be much faster than the 955.


so you want to say that and i3 2*** dual core is faster than a amd phenomII quad core??
a b U Graphics card
July 2, 2011 2:29:56 PM

In gaming it's much faster, here's the i3-2100 vs. Phenom II 980, faster than what you selected and much more expensive:
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/289?vs=362
Games are at the bottom.

If you're going to overclock consider the cost you're spending on a cooler that you can spend on a faster processor. The i3 also consumes half as much power at max load.

i3s are hyperthreaded dual cores, i5s are quad cores. Both are faster than AMD quad cores.
July 2, 2011 5:40:21 PM

so 6950 and phenm 955 cannot run crysis in ultra high setting at 1600*900? And 6950 with a i3 2100 can do so.
I am totally confsd here. At first i chose athlon x3 then all people said phenom are very good for gamers so i chose phenom x4. At first i choose a hd 5670 now i am fixed with 6950.

And NOW PEople are suggesting to get i5 2500k.

So it means next time u guys will suggest to get a i7 2600k and 6990, and when buldozer cpu comes up you will suggest that.

Am CONFUSED AND WANT A SOLUTION. My money Does Not grow on Trees and I dont want to get the best pc.

I just want to get the cheap and the best pc to run games like crysis and metro at 1600*900.
Thanks. NEED SOLUTION.
a b U Graphics card
July 2, 2011 6:37:53 PM

Unfortunately this is what happens when browsingtheworld gets involved. He fills the whole thread arguing about irrelevant and pointless **** and confuses the OP.

Ricky, as long as you have a quad core Phenom ii, you will be covered when it comes to gaming CPU-wise.

Get the phenom with the 6950, you won't be disappointed. You can get a cheap cpu cooler too, if you want to overclock, which I do recommend, but you don't have to do it right away.
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