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"Fred Liken" <fredliken@toocool4school.com> wrote in message
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> >> > No but [sales] sure as hell says alot more about public opinion.
> >>
> >> No it doesn't.
> >
> > It doesn't? So a movie which grosses $300 million dollars *isn't* as
> > well-liked by the public as a movie that grosses only $80 million? How
do
> > you figure that one?
>
> Children movies make millions. Also, movies cost the same. The PSP costs
> twice as much.
That's why I suggested looking at unit sales, not revenue.
> > Money talks. I can't think of a better measure of public opinion
> > regarding
> > a product than actual sales of that product--especially when we are
> > talking
> > about leisure items which no one *has* to own.
>
> How many copies of the Matrix game were sold? How many of, say, ICO?
The point being? Matrix was a best-seller. ICO was not. That is a measure
of public opinion as to which is the better game (which I happen to disagree
with, but I am obviously in the minority).
> > No one is going to purchase an entertainment product they don't want or
> > like.
>
> Woa... that's not even close to being a fact. People buy stuff all the
time
> that they end up not liking. They might have thought otherwise before
they
> bought it, but they find out afterwards that it wasn't as good as they
> thought, etc.
>
> Also, on the other hand, people DON'T buy things that they would like if
> they did.
>
> > You are starting to sound
> > like the Xbox fanboys who claimed that the Xbox was more popular with
the
> > public despite the fact that (at the time) the PS2 had sold 20 million+
> > units and the Xbox had slightly sold less than 8 million.
>
> Well, isn't that a point where those XBOX fanboys probably didn't have a
> PS2, but if they had a PS2, they probably would have liked it.
>
> You're just simply wrong about this one. Sales don't necessarily equal
> quality.
Back the truck up! I never said sales=quality. Re-read the posts. You
disagreed with the notion that sales=a good measure of public opinion. JoJo
wrote that sales say a lot about public opinion, and you said that they
don't. If you meant that sales don't say everything about quality, then I
would have agreed with you. Using your example, The Matrix was more popular
than ICO because it outsold it by a wide margin. Was it a better game?
Definitely not.
So, if the PSP ends up selling more units than the DS, it is safe to say
that the public likes it better. If the DS sells more units than the PSP,
then public opinion supports the DS.
> > If you want to account for the difference in price, don't look at the
> > revenues but just the units sold. If, after Christmas, the PSP has sold
2
> > million units and the DS has sold 1.5 million (or vice-versa), those
sales
> > figures tell us which is more popular with the public. How can you
argue
> > otherwise?
>
> Probably not because no one was arguing popularity, my friend. It's the
> people's opinions. Like I already said sales only show what someone
thought
> they wanted before they bought it. They may never even play the other
> system. They might like the other system, but wouldn't know it. Kind of
> like your XBOX example, really.
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