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September 5, 2011 3:27:50 AM

Hello,

I am looking for a desktop computer in the 1500 dollar range that can be upgraded in the future that will run WoW Cataclysm and maybe a couple of other wow expansions before I need to upgrade again. I like the specs of CyberPower and ibuypower but am open to other suggestions. I am guessing the main item I need to consider is the video card because it has the biggest impact on FPS? Also for a warcraft/online college setup is there any real advantage of amd vs nvidia? I am looking for the quietest rig possible so if one video card beats the other in that department that may help me decide. Any help is appreciated.
I do not want to build myself.

Approximate Purchase Date: 30 days or less.

Budget Range: 1500-1600 Before Rebates

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Online College classes primary use, World of Warcraft gaming, I have played since 2005 and want to play the game at the highest settings, also want to future proof by purchasing a computer that is upgradable to the point it will last a few more wow expansions, 4 or more years at least.

Parts Not Required: I have a Gateway 1920x1200 HD 1080P monitor, not the greatest but no need to buy a new monitor.

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: So far I like cyberpower and ibuypower, but have heard from many they aren't the way to go. If I purchase from either company I intend to custom build, not buy off the rack.

Country of Origin: USA

Parts Preferences: by brand or type Want to go with Intel Core i7, not sure on AMD or Nvidia graphics card, looking for advice here, the quieter and more reliable the better.

Overclocking: Maybe

SLI or Crossfire: Maybe

Monitor Resolution: 1920x1200

Additional Comments: I would like a quiet PC, I currently have a Gateway FX540B and I hate how loud it is, I will pay extra for a quiet PC, or take steps to make a loud pc quieter. Although the primary use of the computer is classes at Texas A&M using Windows Office professional 2007, I am mainly interested in purchasing the computer from a gaming standpoint because if the computer can easily run WoW at high settings, school will be a piece of cake. The main advice I want is how to make it quiet, and how to purchase video card/s and the motherboard. I really like ibuypower and cyberpowerpc pricing, if I purchase from them I will build custom direct and not purchase from newegg etc. I am not going to build on my own, and will purchase from a company. Already to far in to the semester to take on a project like that.

Thanks,
Jon
September 5, 2011 5:28:46 AM

i would consider buying the i7 2600k , its the best proccessor you will get at a great price range £240, and i always go with AMD ;)  but you have to build this rig from scratch you will save yourself alot of money and also be able to choose your components that meet your specifications and your price range ;)  good luck
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September 5, 2011 5:47:43 AM

Thank you for the response. I am definitely considering the i7 2600k. I was also looking at the AMD Phenom six core and was wondering if it is worth it to go AMD to get a six core processor. Is AMD considered the more advanced chip over the Intel i72600k?
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September 5, 2011 6:03:53 AM

Not by a chalk, at the moment the gaming chip of choice is the Intel 2500k on a z68 plate, although if you aren't overclocking the 2500 on a p67 is the way to go, the 2600/2600k are for professional high end work, heavy video editing etc, gamingwise you'll pay an extra $100 for nothing
the 6cores are/were a bit of a letdown for gaming really, you'll be as well grabbing a 955BE and clocking it up, but if your smart, you'll put it into an Am3+ plate, allowing you to drop in a bulldozer chip when they eventually get here :p 
but if its buy now, Intel.
WoW is mainly Cpu-driven, not graphics card, a 5770/6770 from Ati or a 460 from Nvidia will do you on max settings at 1680x1050 with good fps,
dont skimp on your psu, a good 500w will suffice from Corsair,seasonic etc
to be honest $1600 is a fat budget for a WoWbox, you could check out the builds in the stickies and brave it yourself for a lot cheaper, and you'll know you have solid components in there too, not some generic ram and psu
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September 6, 2011 2:08:20 AM

warcraftschoolrig said:
Thank you for the response. I am definitely considering the i7 2600k. I was also looking at the AMD Phenom six core and was wondering if it is worth it to go AMD to get a six core processor. Is AMD considered the more advanced chip over the Intel i72600k?



Motopsychojdn, is correct in a way that the i5 is best for gaming due to the i7 price increase is mainly due to hyper threading, but if your going to use it for college aswell it depends what your doing, e.g. video editing and others, hyperthreading is the way to go , as hyperthreading is not the standard in games (at the moment) but am sure a year or two down the line, games will start to use hyper threading. the benchmark tests for i7 is a hell alot better than the phenom 6 core. but also the 97 2600k is alot better to overclock as others have reaced speeds of 5.0 ghz :o 
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September 6, 2011 2:10:57 AM

i7 * sorry for mistake :p 
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September 6, 2011 2:15:40 AM

mrhearnden said:
Motopsychojdn, is correct in a way that the i5 is best for gaming due to the i7 price increase is mainly due to hyper threading, but if your going to use it for college aswell it depends what your doing, e.g. video editing and others, hyperthreading is the way to go , as hyperthreading is not the standard in games (at the moment) but am sure a year or two down the line, games will start to use hyper threading. the benchmark tests for i7 is a hell alot better than the phenom 6 core. but also the 97 2600k is alot better to overclock as others have reaced speeds of 5.0 ghz :o 


The i5-2600k is worthless for gaming. Do you even know what Hyper-threading does? You will never need it for gaming. I know you mean well but you have to get your facts straight. He's talking about online college meaning he takes classes online. Don't get an i7-2600k and save $100.
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September 6, 2011 7:23:32 AM

When I configure a computer using the simulator on cyberpower's website I lose a great deal of FPS by going to the i5 from the i7, so you guys are saying that I should get the i5 and overclock? Also any advice on video cards? Do I need one powerful card, or two 1gb cards that are a little cheaper? This is the first time I have purchased a computer that I intend to keep and upgrade so any advice is appreciated. I am also willing to wait a few weeks if it is worth it to get the Bulldozer AMD processor. I don't want to pay for the top of the line Intel chip, and if the bulldozer is the best for my price range i will wait, says it will be out September 22nd.

So far I have picked

Thermaltake Level 10GT Full Tower Wide Body Gaming Case w/ Side-Panel Window
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...

(3-Way SLI Support) GigaByte G1.Sniper Intel X58 SLI/CrossFireX Triple-Channel DDR3 E-ATX w/ 7.1 Creative X-Fi Xtreme Fidelity/Dolby Digital Live Audio, Bigfoot Killer E2100 GbLAN, eSATA, USB3, 2x SATA3 RAID, 3 Gen2 PCIe, 2

http://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-Sniper-Intel-Core-Mother...
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September 7, 2011 8:05:47 PM

I am thinking of going AMD and waiting on the Bulldozer. Unfortunately I want everything I see. Is the Bulldozer worth the wait? I can save some money going AMD.
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September 7, 2011 8:21:06 PM

Here's a $1050 all-inclusive build:

Intel i5-2500K + windows 7: $304.98
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

AS Rock Z68 + 8 GB DDR3-1600: $149.98
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

Seagate 1TB + Samsung DVD player: $73.48
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

OCZ Agility 3 60 GB HDD: $109.99 w/ $20 rebate
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Coolermaster Hyper 212+: $27.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Seasonic 520W PSU: $59.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PNY GTX 560: $189.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Rosewill Challenger U3: $59.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

2x Rosewill Blue 120MM fans: $15.98
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Rosewill PS2 Gaming keyboard: $14.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Rosewill 6-button gaming mouse: $9.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Logiteck 17W 2.1 speakers: $23.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

total $1043.34
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September 7, 2011 8:36:30 PM

I know I can save money by building, but I am leaning toward Cyberpower or ibuypower. I may change my mind but for now I am thinking I will stick with the prebuilt. I like the 2500k quite a bit, but for some reason I keep wanting to buy AMD, maybe because of price, and because I want there to be a true competition so badly.
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September 7, 2011 9:11:03 PM

well, there was an announcement that 16-core Opterons have been shipping since august reported today.
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September 8, 2011 9:55:58 PM

I saw that, still waiting to see how it develops. I saw a comparison chart that showed the i5 2500k had a substantial warcraft FPS advantage over any current AMD chip. I want to see how the Bulldozer compares before I purchase.
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