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July 6, 2011 7:42:34 AM

Hi there guys.
I'm choosing new graphics card but I want to ask some questions
1.Is Intel Core2 Duo 2,93 GHz E7500 gonna slow down card like Palit GTX550Ti 1GB Sonic, GTX 460 768mb Sonic or HD6770/6790?
2. GTX460 vs. HD 6790/6770 (I guess GTX550Ti beats each of them in everyhing, but I may not buy 550Ti, cuz of my budget)
May be annoying but, I would liek to see full answers, I mean u should answer for each of the GPU asked for, etc..
Thanks, looking forward for your questions :]
a b U Graphics card
July 6, 2011 8:52:46 AM

From those cards the GTX460 768MB is your best bet. GTX550 Ti is a PoS GPU, the HD 6770 is like 2x slower than the GTX460.
And yes, that CPU will bottleneck an GTX460 (but not for an 6770), but nothing to be afraid of, the bottleneck is going to be small, though you may want to OC it.
July 6, 2011 9:15:47 AM

I dont know what is PoS but anyway, if cpu gonna bottleneck a 460 a bit, i dont know what is going to be with 550Ti..
i am buying GTX460 768Mb than.. and I should overclock the cpu? is 3GHz ok? or 3.2?
You didnt say nothing about HD 6790 1GB is it worse than GTX460 ?
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a b U Graphics card
July 6, 2011 10:46:06 AM

LegendaryAssassin said:
I dont know what is PoS but anyway, if cpu gonna bottleneck a 460 a bit, i dont know what is going to be with 550Ti..
i am buying GTX460 768Mb than.. and I should overclock the cpu? is 3GHz ok? or 3.2?
You didnt say nothing about HD 6790 1GB is it worse than GTX460 ?


It's PoS because it has a bad price/performace ratio. The HD 6790 also doesn't have that kind of a good ratio as the HD 6770 and the GTX460 768MB... if you don't plan to change the CPU in 1 year time then go for the HD 6770, that's the best budget card i can suggest after the GTX460 768MB. (don't let that "budget" confuse you, these are some strong cards, especially the GTX460)

And if you get the GTX460, then OC the CPU to some 3.5/3.6GHz, that should be OK.
a c 141 U Graphics card
July 6, 2011 11:29:39 AM

if you're going to get GTX460 it better to get the one with 1GB memory but avoid the one with SE suffix which in fact slightly slower than regular GTX460 768MB. as your processor try to overclock to 3.6Ghz then you should be fine.
July 6, 2011 11:38:02 AM

^In the store where I am buying(there is no other where I can buy good GPUs) there is no GTX 460 with 1GB... only with 768MB.. Is it too bad..? If a 768Mb is bad for it, I thiknk I will go for HD 6770 1GB... Ofc, I prefer gtx460 but if the 768mb are bad for it..

Hm, I think I wont change the CPU for at least 2 years..
Is it bad If I buy the GTX460? I have never overclocked.. I want the GTX460 becouse of it's PhysX, VGA.. The HD 6770 doesn't have VGA.. Anyway as I see the core clock of the HD 6770 is more than GTX460's?

In my country the GTX 460 768MB (link - http://techno-lux.com/index.php?page=shop.product_detai... ) is for 180-90$,
And the HD 6770 1GB Vapor-X is 170$(link http://techno-lux.com/index.php?option=com_virtuemart&p... )
Which one should i buy, I don't f.. know what I should do :X I want the gtx460 ofc... should I buy it?
a b U Graphics card
July 6, 2011 11:45:27 AM

renz496 said:
if you're going to get GTX460 it better to get the one with 1GB memory but avoid the one with SE suffix which in fact slightly slower than regular GTX460 768MB. as your processor try to overclock to 3.6Ghz then you should be fine.


The 1GB model are somewhat overpriced, better option would be an HD 6850.

OP if you want the GTX460, then go for it. Just OC the CPU as said and you'll be fine.
Oh and, what's your PSU?
a c 141 U Graphics card
July 6, 2011 12:19:14 PM

LegendaryAssassin said:
^In the store where I am buying(there is no other where I can buy good GPUs) there is no GTX 460 with 1GB... only with 768MB.. Is it too bad..? If a 768Mb is bad for it, I thiknk I will go for HD 6770 1GB... Ofc, I prefer gtx460 but if the 768mb are bad for it..

Hm, I think I wont change the CPU for at least 2 years..
Is it bad If I buy the GTX460? I have never overclocked.. I want the GTX460 becouse of it's PhysX, VGA.. The HD 6770 doesn't have VGA.. Anyway as I see the core clock of the HD 6770 is more than GTX460's?

In my country the GTX 460 768MB (link - http://techno-lux.com/index.php?page=shop.product_detai... ) is for 180-90$,
And the HD 6770 1GB Vapor-X is 170$(link http://techno-lux.com/index.php?option=com_virtuemart&p... )
Which one should i buy, I don't f.. know what I should do :X I want the gtx460 ofc... should I buy it?


i'm just suggesting but if you can't find one than just take the one with 768mb. if you want more performance just pick that GTX460 over 6770. those extra VRAM on 6770 are not going to make 6770 faster than GTX460 768MB even if you're cranking the setting that takes a lot of RAM.

unknown_13 said:
The 1GB model are somewhat overpriced, better option would be an HD 6850.

OP if you want the GTX460, then go for it. Just OC the CPU as said and you'll be fine.
Oh and, what's your PSU?


also a good choice for a mid range card.

LegendaryAssassin said:
Here is a link of pic of the PSU.: http://www.mypicx.com/07062011/PSU_500W/


should be able to power up an overclock E7500 + GTX460 768mb though if you can get better PSU that's even better :) 
July 6, 2011 12:24:53 PM

^Nope, I can't take a new PSU.. I bought CPU,HD,2xRAM,GPU, and I am out of money :D  And the HD 6770 is 1GB GDDR5 Vapor-X, is it still worse than Palit GTX460 768Mb?
Then I am buying GTX460 768MB Green(It's cheaper..?) Or I should go for the original Palit GTX 460 768Mb?
July 6, 2011 12:52:38 PM

OMG dude this card here(in my country) is almost +100$ Jeesus :X! Its 235$ :X !
I don't know what "Green" in the Palit name is but It's cheaper, and I don't know if there is difference in the performance.. I'll go for the original one if the Green one is worse?
The Vapor-X is ok at least right? :) 
And the other question is my PSU able to handle:
1.An overclocked(I will overclock it i I am with gtx460) Intel C2 Duo E7500 2,93, overclocked at 3,6GHz?
2. And an overclocked GTX460.
a b U Graphics card
July 6, 2011 1:40:33 PM

Well i don't see anything suspitious about that Green GTX460 version, like cut-down version or something, so go for it :) 
And yes the Vapor-X 6770 is also a very good choice.
July 6, 2011 1:55:40 PM

the HD 6790 1 is at the same price as gtx460, is it better than gtx? And is Intel core 2 duo e7500 2,93GHZ gonna bottleneck it?
a b U Graphics card
July 6, 2011 2:42:04 PM

LegendaryAssassin said:
the HD 6790 1 is at the same price as gtx460, is it better than gtx? And is Intel core 2 duo e7500 2,93GHZ gonna bottleneck it?


It's slower, get the GTX460.
Oh, and if you're afraid to OC, then don't OC :) 
a c 141 U Graphics card
July 6, 2011 5:30:05 PM

LegendaryAssassin said:
the HD 6790 1 is at the same price as gtx460, is it better than gtx? And is Intel core 2 duo e7500 2,93GHZ gonna bottleneck it?


GTX460 is faster. btw from my personal experience it depends on the game. in some game my GTX460 is slower than my GTS250 with E7500 at stock clock. but for the games that rely heavily on gpu such as crysis the performance are right there. than E7500 is quite capable cpu, some people able to get it work for 4Ghz without trouble. but of course you're going to need good motherboard if you want to archive that.
July 6, 2011 6:18:56 PM

Fable III, Witcher 2, COD: Black Ops, COD: MW2, COD: MW3, Battlefield 2-3, AC, 1,2,3, Brotherhood, Revelations, FIFA 11.. guess this games I am going to play, at 1028x1024, low monior resolution.. it is not a problem I guess?
I have G31M-S, think Its not too old, but its not a new one either... here is a link for it: http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.asp?model=g31m-s How much I can get it work?
And how much I can OC the GTX460 so I don't have problems? Here is my PSU, double click for better view http://www.mypicx.com/07062011/PSU-_Dell_ATX-500W/

Edit: Yes Its 1280x1024, typing mistake :) 
a c 141 U Graphics card
July 6, 2011 6:48:16 PM

never see 1028x1024 before so i assume you're playing at 1280x1024. at such resolution you're going to need faster cpu to keep up with GTX460. so before thinking of OCing your gpu think of a way to eliminate the bottleneck first by OCing the cpu.

on a side note GTX460 is quite capable gpu. even able to keep up with decent performance at 1920x1080. do you have any plan to upgrade your monitor soon?
July 6, 2011 7:11:34 PM

Meh.. I don't know If I am going to upgrade it next year, but who knows? Yes, I may upgrade it next year.. its not sure but probably ..


And for the CPU I don't how to get the manual overclocking on. I have founded the place where I can change it but..just read carefully..: There is something like "Overclock mode" There are 4 options that I can choose from - "Auto" , "CPU, PCI Sync." , "CPU, PCI, Async" and "Optimized" Which one will gave me the manual overclock on?
And the second thing about CPU is my motherboard ,or what else there is need, can take an E7500 at... at least 3,6GHz? If it's not sure, I think I dont want to risk it, cuz If something go wrong the whole system will "burn" right.. anyway I don't want something to get lost, dont have money to repair it ??? Or If there is SURE way to do it tell me.. here is what I know.. or I think I know..
Start PC. Go to BIOS. Set Manual Overclocking(no option in mine, read ^ to see what options I have), Set the FPB(or I dont know what was its name..) +.. mine now is 200, lets say I put it up to 215, nad lets say from 2,93 it becomes.. 3,5.. When Windows stars, start CoreTemp to see the temperature of the processor. I guess that was the program? I think I will figure out my temps when I get the CPU. Lets say they are 40C? When I should Stop OCing? When it gets >70 ? Or.. dont know..!? If it gets >70(lets say the non stable temp. is +70C) I restart the PC, go to Bios and normalize it? Or just drop down by 5-10..? And then try again? And what is my max.. I dont know what my case colling system is... damn.. Guess I will figure out for the CPU when I install it on my computer.. But it may be late for changing GPU..
Should I just get a Vapor-X 6770, so I wont risk it?
a c 141 U Graphics card
July 6, 2011 7:36:43 PM

monitors are the at the bottom of my list as well in my upgrade list. last year i'm moving from 1024x768 to 1600x900 and most likely won't changing into something with higher resolution in a few years.

back to the topic for your current resolution something like 5770/6770 should be more than enough but if you're going to upgrade your monitor to a bigger one (with bigger native resolution) GTX460 will be better choice
a b U Graphics card
July 6, 2011 8:43:11 PM

I play almost all games maxed out at that res (1280x1024) with Q8200 @ stock and HD 4850 1GB, so an HD 6770 would be the best option, well if you don't buy a new monitor with a bigger res that is :D 
July 6, 2011 8:51:12 PM

Im not like the guys who die for HD gaming, you know, a 1280x1024 is not a bad res. For me. i would on low too, just for the story. Ofc i love good graphics, njoy them, but .. Not a big thing for me.
i dont actually know why the gtx460 is better both of them has shader model 5, dx11, VGA, both support PhysX technology.. i thing I will go for the HD 6770 :)  At least I thing it will be useful minimum 3 years, but I guess I will change it If I can Run one game..
and if I oc the cpu and the gpu, there will be no problems right? MOBO will be ok, the psu too..
So, Im buying an Sapphire HD6770 1GB Vapor-x which is a little bit oc-ed at 860GHz.. Any last words? :D  Or I should go with a HD6770 FleX, I dont know what it means but...
a b U Graphics card
July 6, 2011 10:02:04 PM

LegendaryAssassin said:
Im not like the guys who die for HD gaming, you know, a 1280x1024 is not a bad res. For me. i would on low too, just for the story. Ofc i love good graphics, njoy them, but .. Not a big thing for me.
i dont actually know why the gtx460 is better both of them has shader model 5, dx11, VGA, both support PhysX technology.. i thing I will go for the HD 6770 :)  At least I thing it will be useful minimum 3 years, but I guess I will change it If I can Run one game..
and if I oc the cpu and the gpu, there will be no problems right? MOBO will be ok, the psu too..
So, Im buying an Sapphire HD6770 1GB Vapor-x which is a little bit oc-ed at 860GHz.. Any last words? :D  Or I should go with a HD6770 FleX, I dont know what it means but...


The main differences are in the graphichs processor (estentially the GPU itself), GTX460 has twice or more shaders than the 6770. Aslo, the 768MB model has 192bit mem bus, and the 1GB has a 256bit mem bus, thus allowing for more bandwith, opposed to the 128bit mem bus which the 6770 has.
July 7, 2011 5:25:28 AM

Ordered an GTX460 768MB... (Green version is a.. cut one..)
I said them If GTX460 isn't useable with my PSU etc. I will buy the Vapor-X HD 6770 1GB
a c 141 U Graphics card
July 7, 2011 5:53:16 AM

nvidia recommend 450w PSU (not generic one) with it's 12v rail rated at 24A at the very least. yours are 26A so it should be fine.
October 25, 2011 11:59:55 PM

Hmm so guys your trying to say that 460 is the best card than 550, 6770, and 6790?
October 26, 2011 12:17:15 AM

also i want to buy a new card im choosing between 550 and 6770 any comments?
February 14, 2012 8:49:33 PM

unknown_13 said:
From those cards the GTX460 768MB is your best bet. GTX550 Ti is a PoS GPU, the HD 6770 is like 2x slower than the GTX460.
And yes, that CPU will bottleneck an GTX460 (but not for an 6770), but nothing to be afraid of, the bottleneck is going to be small, though you may want to OC it.

please tell me how o know if the cpu is going to bottleneck some cards or not ??? cuz i have the same cpu e7500
plz answer me :) 
and will 6790 bottleneck with e7500 @3 GHz
!