Gaming/it build

[tomcat7810]

Another build I have been contemplating on for myself to play a lil starcraft2, run virtual machines, build websites, etc... I am a it major so it will get some school use and iTunes use. I'll add a hd I have laying around. So let me know what you guys think it's at about 730.00$ now and about 700 after rebates. If you guys see anywhere I can save money without sacrificing performance feel free to tell me, I'm a broke college student.


SILVERSTONE Sugo Series SG05BB-450 ALL Black Plastic / SECC Mini-ITX Desktop Computer Case with SFX 450W 80+ Bronze Certified ...

ZOTAC ZT-50603-10L GeForce GT 520 (Fermi) 1GB 64-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready Low Profile Ready Video Card

G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 2133 (PC3 17000) Desktop Memory Model F3-17000CL9D-4GBXL

ZOTAC Z68ITX-A-E LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Mini ITX Intel Motherboard

Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I52500K

OCZ Agility 3 AGT3-25SAT3-60G 2.5" 60GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)

 

[rolli59]

You will be disappointed gaming on a GT520 a HD5570 or 6570 would be a better choice http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102874

 

[ScrewySqrl]

that sugo 450W PSU can handle a real gaming card: Hd 6850 or GTX 560/560ti. all of which have under 9" cards

 

[tomcat7810]

Yea I know... Just I'm a lil tight for money most recommendations I need are to make it cheaper lol but I can do the 6570 for it's price... What about the ssd I just want quick boots and to be able to cache if there is any money to save there fell free to tell me lol

 

[aznshinobi]

Agreed.
+1 to Screwy and Rolli's points.

I'd also suggest getting an AMD build instead. Despite the overall concensus. VMware or just Virtual machines in general benefit from the Thubans or the 1xxxT's 6 cores since you'll be able to run one on each core unlike just 4 that the 2500K offers. Now it wouldn't be terrible for gaming either, it's actually rather all right and would actually perform just fine.

This 1055T+Corsair 8GB DDR3 1600 Vengeance $190
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.724029
Can't forget about the board
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131659
Cheaper SSD
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227728

 

[tomcat7810]

So the amd processor you think will perform better because it just seems like everyone goes sandy bridge these days?

 

[aznshinobi]

These cards would fit your range after the money saved, it also will fit your ITX factor since it is shorter than 9"
Sapphire 6850
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102908
MSI Cyclone 6850
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127576
PowerColor 6790
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131397

 

[aznshinobi]

No, if you weren't running VMs I'd recommend the 2500K. However you are running VMs and VMs benefit from the cores. Which the 1055T has more of and would save you money for a better card.

 

[tomcat7810]

Yea I mean I do run vm's sometimes but mainly for school purposes and I use my laptop currently for that so I do have alternatives if I would benefit more from the 2500k gaming/everyday use etc I would love to have that. Also is there any money I can save on a case because I am not set on that case it just seems to be one of the few with a power supply which I have no clue how to pick out for these minis, clearance wise.

 

[aznshinobi]

Well if you stick to m-ITX, the Sugo is actually one of the only ones I'd recommend for ITX especially for the price. The only other I'd recommend is this Lian-Li.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811112297
$90 after shipping, which is $50 less than the Sugo after shipping. You can then buy this PSU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139026&Tpk=430cx
Here's a build outta the lian-li
http://forums.itxgamer.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=11&start=20

 

[ScrewySqrl]

Yea I know... Just I'm a lil tight for money most recommendations I need are to make it cheaper lol but I can do the 6570 for it's price... What about the ssd I just want quick boots and to be able to cache if there is any money to save there fell free to tell me lol

you have a regular HDD, so the SSD is fine. you can save a bit with an Aglity 2 or Vertex 2 SATA 2 SSD, which is still bloody fast.

some money can be saved on your RAM. No real need at *all* for DDR3-2133!

you could drop from the H67 to am H61 chipset and save about $10, but the big savings would be in going to 1333 RAM.

You could save another $10 going to a i5-2500. you probably arent going to overclock in this tight space. you could even step down to a 2400 (a $30 total savings).

here's some suggestions:

i5-2400 + 4 GB PNY 1333 RAM: $204.98
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.723827

ASUS P8H61-I H61 motherboard: $79.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131727
doesn't have SATA 3, but does have USB3. Your HDD won't miss it. and the SSD will be SATA 2 for money savings

OCZ Agility 2 60GB HDD: $99.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227542

SILVERSTONE Sugo Series SG05BB-450: $119.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811163171

Samsung DVD burner: $19.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151233

HIS HD 6850: $159.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161348

total $684.93

 

[aznshinobi]

Why the Agility 2 when the Solid 3 is the same price.

 

[ScrewySqrl]

no SATA 3

 

[tomcat7810]

Ok so I played around with my shopping cart a little more last night and this is what I came up with. Let me know if there is anymore suggestions I will be glad to hear them, you guys have been such great help.

SILVERSTONE Sugo Series SG05BB-450 ALL Black Plastic / SECC Mini-ITX Desktop Computer Case with SFX 450W 80+ Bronze Certified ...

MSI R6570-MD1GD3/LP Radeon HD 6570 1GB 128-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready Low Profile Ready Video Card

G.SKILL NS 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL9D-4GBNS

ZOTAC H67ITX-C-E LGA 1155 Intel H67 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Mini ITX Intel

Intel Core i5-2400 Sandy Bridge 3.1GHz (3.4GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I52400

OCZ Solid 3 SLD3-25SAT3-60G 2.5" 60GB SATA III MLC

It's ends up being 650 and 640$ after rebates. That is right around my limit. Any more recommendations to better this system?

 

[aznshinobi]

Looks good.
A suggestion for a cheaper board.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157238
That should save about $50, allocate $20 for a Wi-Fi adapter. Then leave $30 to upgrade the GPU.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150540

 

[ScrewySqrl]

use some combos to lower your prices. Try to get an HD 6850 at least if you want to game at 1920x1080.

this board will save $60, but doesn't have wi-fi. you can get a USB wi-fi-N for $10.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131727

Wi-fi for $10
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833166052

the combo I listed above with save you $13 on the CPU & RAM.

Add that to your $75 gpu and you are close to a HD6850 anyway

 

[tomcat7810]

Ok I decided to ditch the ssd and just get a bigger hd then what I have laying around. I found some of these products as combos such as the kobo and hd also the i5 and ram it's now at 664$ and 655 after rebates. What you think?


SILVERSTONE Sugo Series SG05BB-450 ALL Black Plastic / SECC Mini-ITX Desktop Computer Case with SFX 450W 80+ Bronze Certified ...

HIS H685FN1GD Radeon HD 6850 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card with Eyefinity

ZOTAC H67ITX-C-E LGA 1155 Intel H67 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Mini ITX Intel Motherboard

Seagate Barracuda ST31000524AS 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive

Intel Core i5-2400 Sandy Bridge 3.1GHz (3.4GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I52400

PNY Optima 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model MD4096KD3-1333

 

[aznshinobi]

Looks good, why not save on the board though? A USB adapter for WiFi is only like $10-$20. Drop down to the motherboard I suggested. Or repost.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157238
That'll save around $50. Solid board with USB3 and SATA3

 

[tomcat7810]

Ok will the 6850 work because it's pci express 2.1 and the board accepts 2.0

 

[aznshinobi]

Yes all PCI is backwards compatible.

 

[tomcat7810]

Ok and the reason I did that was because the zotac board was offered as a combo with the seagate hd for 179.99 so it saved 20 as a combo. But if you got a better recommendation for the board you suggested and a 1tb hd for less let me know

 

[aznshinobi]

O.O The money you save from the motherboard I suggested is $50 -____-
Even that $20 saved on the combo you still save $30....

 

[ScrewySqrl]

there is a combo with the 1tb drive with a samsung DVD burner ($73.48 total).

 

[tomcat7810]

Ok and finally 1 more questions the asrock mobo seem like the only difference was that it didn't have wifi.(correct me if I'm wrong) because if that's the only major difference I will get that board and save money. I can always do without wifi and run an ethernet cable

 

[aznshinobi]

Yes that is the only difference.