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Last weekend, I started this thread asking about using a Color Laser for
printing photos. The responses, and I thank you all for them, suggested
it would not be the best thing to do.

Since then I have looked around and found the world of Dye Sublimation
printers and now think what I would like to do is go ahead and buy a
color laser for day to day printing and a dye sub such as the Canon,
Kodak or Sony for occasional snapshop printing. So with that in mind,
here a some more questions:

1. Does each printer require paper and ribbons, or whatever you call
them, from the same manufacturer? What happens if that manufacturer
discontinues them? Is there an after-market for them?

2. What is the shelf life of the unused paper and ribbons. If I print
60 photos a year, it is a lot.

3. I have a Canon Powershot camera. Will I have a compatibility problem
using a Sony or some other printer?

Thanks again for your patience and information.

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On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 08:37:06 -0500, Jack Gillis wrote:

<SNIP>
> 3. I have a Canon Powershot camera. Will I have a compatibility problem
> using a Sony or some other printer?
>
> Thanks again for your patience and information.

You're welcome. I can only comment on your 3rd question since I don't own
or use dye-sub printers. However you won't have compatibility problems
beyond (maybe) some Canon- or Sony-supplied proprietary image processing
software that may or may not come with respectively the camera or the
printer. Bottom line: stick with generic image processing software
(PaintShop Pro and the like, Photoshop etc.) and you'll be fine. It never
hurts to ask the supplier before you buy though.

Bas

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Thank you, Bas.

Actually, I think I prefer the Microsoft Picture Manager included with
Office 2003. It is simple, straightforward and suits my limited needs.


"Bas v.d. Wiel" <bas@thoushaltnot.spam.extranet.kompas-media.nl> wrote
in message
news:pan.2005.03.30.14.16.17.770495@thoushaltnot.spam.extranet.kompas-media.nl...
> On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 08:37:06 -0500, Jack Gillis wrote:
>
> <SNIP>
>> 3. I have a Canon Powershot camera. Will I have a compatibility
>> problem
>> using a Sony or some other printer?
>>
>> Thanks again for your patience and information.
>
> You're welcome. I can only comment on your 3rd question since I don't
> own
> or use dye-sub printers. However you won't have compatibility problems
> beyond (maybe) some Canon- or Sony-supplied proprietary image
> processing
> software that may or may not come with respectively the camera or the
> printer. Bottom line: stick with generic image processing software
> (PaintShop Pro and the like, Photoshop etc.) and you'll be fine. It
> never
> hurts to ask the supplier before you buy though.
>
> Bas

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On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 08:37:06 -0500, "Jack Gillis"
<XXXXXXXX@widomaker.com> wrote:

>Last weekend, I started this thread asking about using a Color Laser for
>printing photos. The responses, and I thank you all for them, suggested
>it would not be the best thing to do.
>
>Since then I have looked around and found the world of Dye Sublimation
>printers and now think what I would like to do is go ahead and buy a
>color laser for day to day printing and a dye sub such as the Canon,
>Kodak or Sony for occasional snapshop printing. So with that in mind,
>here a some more questions:
>
>1. Does each printer require paper and ribbons, or whatever you call
>them, from the same manufacturer? What happens if that manufacturer
>discontinues them? Is there an after-market for them?
>
>2. What is the shelf life of the unused paper and ribbons. If I print
>60 photos a year, it is a lot.
>
>3. I have a Canon Powershot camera. Will I have a compatibility problem
>using a Sony or some other printer?


Kodak and Olympus both have dandy dye-subs,
but as you note, the ribbons will be proprietary --
I wouldn't expect sources beyond Kodak and Oly.
Also Hi-Ti for smallish prints (3x5 and 4x6".)

Don't know about shelf life of ribbons.


rafe b.
http://www.terrapinphoto.com

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Thank you, Rafe. Another piece of the puzzle falls into place.

Jack

"rafe bustin" <rafeb@speakeasy.net> wrote in message
news:19el411c47mlsqp8dgdmjkgdbf19e1h51k@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 08:37:06 -0500, "Jack Gillis"
> <XXXXXXXX@widomaker.com> wrote:
>
>>Last weekend, I started this thread asking about using a Color Laser
>>for
>>printing photos. The responses, and I thank you all for them,
>>suggested
>>it would not be the best thing to do.
>>
>>Since then I have looked around and found the world of Dye Sublimation
>>printers and now think what I would like to do is go ahead and buy a
>>color laser for day to day printing and a dye sub such as the Canon,
>>Kodak or Sony for occasional snapshop printing. So with that in
>>mind,
>>here a some more questions:
>>
>>1. Does each printer require paper and ribbons, or whatever you call
>>them, from the same manufacturer? What happens if that manufacturer
>>discontinues them? Is there an after-market for them?
>>
>>2. What is the shelf life of the unused paper and ribbons. If I print
>>60 photos a year, it is a lot.
>>
>>3. I have a Canon Powershot camera. Will I have a compatibility
>>problem
>>using a Sony or some other printer?
>
>
> Kodak and Olympus both have dandy dye-subs,
> but as you note, the ribbons will be proprietary --
> I wouldn't expect sources beyond Kodak and Oly.
> Also Hi-Ti for smallish prints (3x5 and 4x6".)
>
> Don't know about shelf life of ribbons.
>
>
> rafe b.
> http://www.terrapinphoto.com

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"Jack Gillis" <XXXXXXXX@widomaker.com> wrote in message
news:114las79r5qp0bd@corp.supernews.com...
> Last weekend, I started this thread asking about using a Color Laser for
> printing photos. The responses, and I thank you all for them, suggested
> it would not be the best thing to do.
>
> Since then I have looked around and found the world of Dye Sublimation
> printers and now think what I would like to do is go ahead and buy a
> color laser for day to day printing and a dye sub such as the Canon,
> Kodak or Sony for occasional snapshop printing. So with that in mind,
> here a some more questions:
>
> 1. Does each printer require paper and ribbons, or whatever you call
> them, from the same manufacturer? What happens if that manufacturer
> discontinues them? Is there an after-market for them?

Yes. You have a problem. Unlikely, if its not viable for the manufacturer,
why for a 3rd party? No doubt they will produce supplies for a time
afterwards. Best to figure you will only get 2 or 3 years and take it at
that.

>
> 2. What is the shelf life of the unused paper and ribbons. If I print 60
> photos a year, it is a lot.

FWIW, if you are (only) printing 1 a week, you might be better to spend more
bucks on a premium printing service? Work out how much each print would cost
if say, the printer last for 3 years, and you buy enough media for say 500
pints (allowing for experiments, things gone wrong etc). Then work out what
180 pictures would cost you. Big enough difference to justify printing at
home? Or in reality, with a good printer, might you print more anyway, or is
the convenience worth it?

>
> 3. I have a Canon Powershot camera. Will I have a compatibility problem
> using a Sony or some other printer?
>
No. Think about it, these guys have a relatively small market anyway. If
they restricted it just to their own cameras, there is no way it would be
financially viable. What you might find is that printing from a Canon camera
to a canon printer *might* be a bit easier.


--
Tumbleweed

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tumbleweednews at hotmail dot com

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"Tumbleweed" <thisaccountneverread@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:3b09qoF6dhoapU1@individual.net...
>
>
> "Jack Gillis" <XXXXXXXX@widomaker.com> wrote in message
> news:114las79r5qp0bd@corp.supernews.com...
>> Last weekend, I started this thread asking about using a Color Laser for
>> printing photos. The responses, and I thank you all for them, suggested
>> it would not be the best thing to do.
>>
>> Since then I have looked around and found the world of Dye Sublimation
>> printers and now think what I would like to do is go ahead and buy a
>> color laser for day to day printing and a dye sub such as the Canon,
>> Kodak or Sony for occasional snapshop printing. So with that in mind,
>> here a some more questions:
>>
>> 1. Does each printer require paper and ribbons, or whatever you call
>> them, from the same manufacturer? What happens if that manufacturer
>> discontinues them? Is there an after-market for them?
>
> Yes. You have a problem. Unlikely, if its not viable for the manufacturer,
> why for a 3rd party? No doubt they will produce supplies for a time
> afterwards. Best to figure you will only get 2 or 3 years and take it at
> that.
>
>>
>> 2. What is the shelf life of the unused paper and ribbons. If I print 60
>> photos a year, it is a lot.
>
> FWIW, if you are (only) printing 1 a week, you might be better to spend
> more bucks on a premium printing service? Work out how much each print
> would cost if say, the printer last for 3 years, and you buy enough media
> for say 500 pints (

If you have 500 pints, you will have many failed prints :-) ...take that as
'prints' :-)

--
Tumbleweed

email replies not necessary but to contact use;
tumbleweednews at hotmail dot com

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"Tumbleweed" <thisaccountneverread@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:3b09qoF6dhoapU1@individual.net...
>
>
> "Jack Gillis" <XXXXXXXX@widomaker.com> wrote in message
> news:114las79r5qp0bd@corp.supernews.com...
>> Last weekend, I started this thread asking about using a Color Laser
>> for
>> printing photos. The responses, and I thank you all for them,
>> suggested
>> it would not be the best thing to do.
>>
>> Since then I have looked around and found the world of Dye
>> Sublimation
>> printers and now think what I would like to do is go ahead and buy a
>> color laser for day to day printing and a dye sub such as the Canon,
>> Kodak or Sony for occasional snapshop printing. So with that in
>> mind, here a some more questions:
>>
>> 1. Does each printer require paper and ribbons, or whatever you call
>> them, from the same manufacturer? What happens if that manufacturer
>> discontinues them? Is there an after-market for them?
>
> Yes. You have a problem. Unlikely, if its not viable for the
> manufacturer, why for a 3rd party? No doubt they will produce supplies
> for a time afterwards. Best to figure you will only get 2 or 3 years
> and take it at that.
>
>>
>> 2. What is the shelf life of the unused paper and ribbons. If I
>> print 60 photos a year, it is a lot.
>
> FWIW, if you are (only) printing 1 a week, you might be better to
> spend more bucks on a premium printing service? Work out how much each
> print would cost if say, the printer last for 3 years, and you buy
> enough media for say 500 pints (allowing for experiments, things gone
> wrong etc). Then work out what 180 pictures would cost you. Big enough
> difference to justify printing at home? Or in reality, with a good
> printer, might you print more anyway, or is the convenience worth it?

Thank you very much.
That pretty well sums it up and the answer is a definite YES. When I
want a print, I want it now or earlier. I wasn't worried so much about
the cost of the expendables but more about the 'will the darned thing
work' when I want it too without cleaning heads and/or buying new
cartridges.


>
>>
>> 3. I have a Canon Powershot camera. Will I have a compatibility
>> problem using a Sony or some other printer?
>>
> No. Think about it, these guys have a relatively small market anyway.
> If they restricted it just to their own cameras, there is no way it
> would be financially viable. What you might find is that printing from
> a Canon camera to a canon printer *might* be a bit easier.
>
>
> --
> Tumbleweed
>
> email replies not necessary but to contact use;
> tumbleweednews at hotmail dot com
>

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"Tumbleweed" <thisaccountneverread@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:3b0b6fF6eel2pU1@individual.net...
>
> "Tumbleweed" <thisaccountneverread@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:3b09qoF6dhoapU1@individual.net...
>>
>>
>> "Jack Gillis" <XXXXXXXX@widomaker.com> wrote in message
>> news:114las79r5qp0bd@corp.supernews.com...
>>> Last weekend, I started this thread asking about using a Color Laser
>>> for
>>> printing photos. The responses, and I thank you all for them,
>>> suggested
>>> it would not be the best thing to do.
>>>
>>> Since then I have looked around and found the world of Dye
>>> Sublimation
>>> printers and now think what I would like to do is go ahead and buy a
>>> color laser for day to day printing and a dye sub such as the
>>> Canon, Kodak or Sony for occasional snapshop printing. So with
>>> that in mind, here a some more questions:
>>>
>>> 1. Does each printer require paper and ribbons, or whatever you
>>> call them, from the same manufacturer? What happens if that
>>> manufacturer discontinues them? Is there an after-market for them?
>>
>> Yes. You have a problem. Unlikely, if its not viable for the
>> manufacturer, why for a 3rd party? No doubt they will produce
>> supplies for a time afterwards. Best to figure you will only get 2 or
>> 3 years and take it at that.
>>
>>>
>>> 2. What is the shelf life of the unused paper and ribbons. If I
>>> print 60 photos a year, it is a lot.
>>
>> FWIW, if you are (only) printing 1 a week, you might be better to
>> spend more bucks on a premium printing service? Work out how much
>> each print would cost if say, the printer last for 3 years, and you
>> buy enough media for say 500 pints (
>
> If you have 500 pints, you will have many failed prints :-) ...take
> that as 'prints' :-)

I like the first wording better :)
>
> --
> Tumbleweed
>
> email replies not necessary but to contact use;
> tumbleweednews at hotmail dot com
>

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