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Radeon HD 7950 3 GB: Six Cards, Benchmarked And Reviewed

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June 18, 2012 4:59:38 AM

Gigabyte HD7950 missing in action :( 
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June 18, 2012 5:21:00 AM

in some of the earlier charts, gtx680 is written as "gtx 680 1536MB".

also, gtx580 seems to be missing in the crysis2 charts.
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June 18, 2012 5:23:32 AM

Just thought you might like to know that the x-axis captions for the noise level graphs are labelled as they would be for temperature, rather than decibels
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June 18, 2012 5:32:48 AM

That nvidia turbo boost is a bit cheating and you should turn it off for the test. It's basically same as overclocking and your review sample cards are most likely binned to get much better than average OC.
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June 18, 2012 5:35:39 AM

Nice article. Glad to know I'm not missing much by sticking with brand loyalty.
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June 18, 2012 5:50:56 AM

Why was there no expanded information on the overclocking ability of the GPUs? Half at 1025MHz and Half at 1050MHz doesn't help anything.

As well, what kind of memory overclocks did you get? Did you have to change the voltage of the GPUs to get said clock speeds?

This article was missing a bit too much info there to really be able to get the full picture of these GPUs. The HD7970 6 card shootout is how it should have been done for the HD7950s. Each cards overclocking ability (core/memory) and what they got with stock voltage and overvolted.
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June 18, 2012 5:57:22 AM

scrumworksThat nvidia turbo boost is a bit cheating and you should turn it off for the test. It's basically same as overclocking and your review sample cards are most likely binned to get much better than average OC.


WOW.
how is it cheating? it is cheating only if the average user will not use the "GPU boost" feature, but reviewers are using it.

and, the card is faster, cheaper and cooler than the competition. so if you are better, you cheat?
Fanboi.
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June 18, 2012 6:10:28 AM

XFX HD7950 didn't make the list?

You know what this is like? Imagine yourself as a concert prompter, trying to put a lineup together. You have Megadeth, White Snake, Poison, Guns -n- Roses, AC DC, you think you're doing just fine...What? Metallica wanted nothing to do with that roundup of Who's Who? Did they turn you down, or did you guys turn them down?

Because XFX matters. XFX always matter! And I'm pretty sure they weren't scared to step into the ring and beat some heads in with a comparo with the best in the biz. You guys need to get in touch with them and test their HD7950 and see if their card has the potential to blast that "elephant in the room" and hang it's head on the wall.

This is Tom's Hardware after all...
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June 18, 2012 6:28:00 AM

scrumworksThat nvidia turbo boost is a bit cheating and you should turn it off for the test. It's basically same as overclocking and your review sample cards are most likely binned to get much better than average OC.

You want to add 7970 OC into the crowd ? Just ask ...
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June 18, 2012 6:29:11 AM

I really like the charts posted for the benchmarking! Gives a much wider range of cards.
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June 18, 2012 6:38:59 AM

HIS HD 7950's fan at load reminds me of one of those machinery rooms in a manufacturing plant.
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June 18, 2012 6:40:54 AM

This is the first time I heard about buying a "graphic card bracket". For the ASUS DCII card, don't you usually just put screws (3 screws for this card) on THE (usual) bracket to hold the card firmly in the case?
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June 18, 2012 7:10:50 AM

DCII,i am impressed!
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June 18, 2012 7:19:22 AM

wow! the msi and powercolor is 50$ cheeper than asus..
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June 18, 2012 7:21:38 AM

Dear Mr Wallossek, we buy our cards based on performance per price as recommended by Tom's monthly best graphic cards for the money guide. This is the time of the GTX 670, simply because it has the best value in its class. Since they're available everywhere, why don't you give us some benchmark on those 670s instead of these over-priced (still) 7950 cards with nothing left to talk about?
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June 18, 2012 7:33:23 AM

Testing GTX6XX-Cards with enabled GPU Boost is certainly not cheating. Its a just a feature of this boards.

But everyone who is comparing stock clock benchmarks should keep in mind that these cards most likely wont overclock as much over their gpu boost frequency as a card without boost overclocks over its stock frequency (assuming both cards have the same overclocking capability). Especially since the gpu boost on non-reference cards sometimes already is 200mhz over their base frequency.

This can make a precise comparision more difficult. Particularly if you compare cards which are very close like the 7970 and 670 for example.

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June 18, 2012 8:02:34 AM

Wow, I feel even more awesome now for putting my order in for a GTX 670.
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June 18, 2012 8:02:42 AM

Sonny73N said:
Dear Mr Wallossek, we buy our cards based on performance per price as recommended by Tom's monthly best graphic cards for the money guide. This is the time of the GTX 670, simply because it has the best value in its class. Since they're available everywhere, why don't you give us some benchmark on those 670s instead of these over-priced (still) 7950 cards with nothing left to talk about?


Dear Sonny73N,
Why? Because the translation is slower than a crappy GT 430 :D 

The 7950 roundup was published in Germany: May 12, 2012
The GTX670 roundup was published in Germany: May 22, 2012

http://www.tomshardware.de/Nvidia-Geforce-GTX-670-Round...


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June 18, 2012 8:10:33 AM

jimmysmitty said:
Why was there no expanded information on the overclocking ability of the GPUs? Half at 1025MHz and Half at 1050MHz doesn't help anything.

As well, what kind of memory overclocks did you get? Did you have to change the voltage of the GPUs to get said clock speeds?


So you read the 2nd sentence of the overclocking but not the first?

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We overclocked each card as much as possible without increasing their voltage settings. Half of them managed to hit 1050 MHz, while the other half maxed out at 1025 MHz.


sorry couldnt help myself. the fact they all hit 1025Mhz is relevant. Doing it at stock voltage is the "safe" way. and a way to show what the "average Joe" can do safely with just the sliders in CCC.

Its clearly just a puff piece for these cards and nothing to do any real comparison with when its only game benchmark is crysis 2
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June 18, 2012 8:28:57 AM

*looks at current pc setup, opens local pc shop webpage, see great deal no upgrade only to find out gadget budget is empty*
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June 18, 2012 8:35:26 AM

To test the stability Crysis 2 is a real nice test, because 3DMark11, Metro 2033, Furmark and GPGPU are running stable on higher clocks when Crysis 2 already crashes. This is not a secret. To compare several cards with the same chip, one benchmark is enough to show the differences between this cards. For comparison with more games you can take a look at the charts too.

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The chip quality is not OEM dependend, it is pure random. Call it GPU lottery. :D 

I have compared 3 cards from HIS with different results (GPU and RAM clocks) and I can say that each card is really unique. It is not possible to say that the cards from manufacturer A are better for OC then others, each card has another and different limit.
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June 18, 2012 9:15:43 AM

I must say I am impressed with the HIS Cooler performance, however I would have pass on the graphics card personally as I think it is fugly and judging by the video of noise it seems to have a whine that I can't stand much more than all the other cards!

Definitely a great feature allow users to hear what each graphics card sounds like given it is so subjective keep up the awesome work!!!
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June 18, 2012 10:59:38 AM

Why no XFX BE Double D?
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June 18, 2012 11:07:15 AM

needs gigabyte but i think they didnt have one onhand
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June 18, 2012 11:38:45 AM

How is it fair to not increase the GPU voltage for a better OC when nvidia's GPU Boost raises the voltage as well? There is a voltage slider in the CCC that lets you still overclock safely, its not really hidden.
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June 18, 2012 12:01:10 PM

I don't how you can recommend the HIS model for European customers their customer support service is to be polite, diabolical!

Tom's should really do some investigating and see just how good the customer care is from the board partners because this is an important aspect for me when buying a card but always gets overlooked by journalists and reviewers.
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June 18, 2012 12:41:59 PM

and who said the GTX 560Ti-448 and GTX 570 were dead.?
looks like they beat the HD 7850 and battle the HD 7870 in every bench.
I think that's interesting and the proof is right there for everyone to see.
minus power consumption over the HD 7870 and HD 7850 but at a lower price currently seems like a win as well (GTX 570 = $250 US)..

just saying.
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June 18, 2012 2:02:04 PM

malmentaland who said the GTX 560Ti-448 and GTX 570 were dead.?looks like they beat the HD 7850 and battle the HD 7870 in every bench.I think that's interesting and the proof is right there for everyone to see.minus power consumption over the HD 7870 and HD 7850 but at a lower price currently seems like a win as well (GTX 570 = $250 US)..just saying.


I don't know where you found that out, the 7850 ghz editions match or beat the 448 and the 7870 runs with the 580, then the heat and noice factor. Fermi is a thing of the past.

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June 18, 2012 2:49:35 PM

sarinaide said:
I don't know where you found that out, the 7850 ghz editions match or beat the 448 and the 7870 runs with the 580, then the heat and noice factor. Fermi is a thing of the past.

I take it that your blind and illiterate because it's obvious you do not see the bench charts
that clearly show the GTX 560Ti-448 to the GTX 580 beating the HD 7850 and battle the HD 7870.
and I stated thart I'm not speaking in power consumption just performance.
you blindsided fanboi..
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June 18, 2012 2:53:28 PM

scrumworksThat nvidia turbo boost is a bit cheating and you should turn it off for the test. It's basically same as overclocking and your review sample cards are most likely binned to get much better than average OC.



if there were some nvidia cards that lacked turbo,,, id agree with you...however it is a function of the card itself and partly responsible for its good performance,,, would you test drive a suberu sti and ask the dealer to bypass the turbo???
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June 18, 2012 3:14:23 PM

Now these are the cards of the future!
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June 18, 2012 3:16:44 PM

I am happy with my purchase.

XFX 7950 Double D purchased last week @ the egg for $369.99 with a $20 MIR making it only $349.99.

For that price I'd take it any day over a $400 670!
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June 18, 2012 3:33:48 PM

Those audio clips were a GREAT addition to this coverage. Please do that with as many video cards as you can when you test them.
At this performance level, +/- a few FPS really doesn't matter a whole lot (they're ALL well-performing cards), but presenting the noise you may be introducing into your environment lets people hear a difference that will matter, day after day.
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June 18, 2012 3:51:21 PM

The 7950 made a good attempt, but it doesn't quite come up to par with the GTX 670. I'll continue to recommend the GTX 670 for builds.
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June 18, 2012 3:52:14 PM

malmentalI take it that your blind and illiterate because it's obvious you do not see the bench chartsthat clearly show the GTX 560Ti-448 to the GTX 580 beating the HD 7850 and battle the HD 7870.and I stated thart I'm not speaking in power consumption just performance.you blindsided fanboi..


Odd. Looking at the charts here, there isn't a single example of the 570 or 560ti-448 hanging closely with the 7870. At best, the 570 is somewhere around 6% behind, it's worse for the 560 and the 580 trades consistently with the 7870. Looking at pricing today, the cheapest 7870 on newegg is $70 cheaper than the cheapest 580 ($309 vs. $379), so that's a no-brainer right there as to which is the better value. Hell, you can get a 7950 for around $20 less than a 580 right now.

This isn't fanboism, it's fact. Mid tier AMD current-gen beats our last gen top-tier Nvidia. It is the better value for maxing out 1080p gameplay, period.
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June 18, 2012 3:56:28 PM

cknobmanI am happy with my purchase.XFX 7950 Double D purchased last week @ the egg for $369.99 with a $20 MIR making it only $349.99.For that price I'd take it any day over a $400 670!


You just missed out on the price drop this weekend. Saturday/Sunday that XFX Double D 7950 dropped to $359.99 then 10% off coupon and $20 rebate making it $304 after rebate/coupon. I was waiting for a 7850 to drop to $200, but I just got that instead...too bad the deal is over now:

http://slickdeals.net/permadeal/75738/newegg-xfx-double...

At $304 after rebate/coupon, the XFX Double D 7950 was a tremendous value...beats everything else on here in value.
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June 18, 2012 4:14:14 PM

kngoPITTYou just missed out on the price drop this weekend. Saturday/Sunday that XFX Double D 7950 dropped to $359.99 then 10% off coupon and $20 rebate making it $304 after rebate/coupon. I was waiting for a 7850 to drop to $200, but I just got that instead...too bad the deal is over now:http://slickdeals.net/permadeal/75 [...] me-coupons


DAMMMMMMMMITTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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June 18, 2012 4:27:32 PM

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Shall we adress that hardly anyone will care about noise :o 
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:non:  Anyone over the age of 30 (and some under it), not playing in a "dedicated" gaming environment (e.g. Mom's basement, or a private bedroom) will likely care about noise. I didn't say obsess over it, but they will care.
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Anonymous
June 18, 2012 4:28:27 PM

You really just threw up a refurbished price against a new product? Well, by that logic I just got a 7850 for $180 off CL. Wonder what the better deal is now?
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June 18, 2012 4:34:15 PM


Absolutely meaningless. Under what conditions? Ambient temps? Case cooling? Pick a card, any card, and you can make this happen. Cite competent technical reviews please if you would like us to take your arguments seriously. Really, please do. We're interested in the best products out there; clips like this don't support "either side."
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June 18, 2012 4:50:07 PM

I have the Sapphire Radeon HD 7870 - it's quite an amazing card and it has the same cooler as the 7950 model, and I haven't run into the power connector problem that was claimed in this article.
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June 18, 2012 5:03:48 PM

Good job HIS and ASUS! Loving my 7850 with ASUS's CUII. Almost all of the designs seem good (except the reference design), but I think the nod goes to HIS for the best design here. "Only" 2 slots (*cough* ASUS *cough*) and the warm air gets blown out of the case!
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June 18, 2012 5:51:36 PM

recon-ukNeither do silly tests in all honesty, everyone gets a different experience from everyone else.It's like me commenting on how a war in africa or iran is when i have never actually been there.Fanboi's are loving the statistics, but fail when contended with real proof.


Well, in all honesty, you can find almost anything in Youtube to prove almost any point you want to make, hahaha.

I trust reputable sites (such as Toms) and that gives me the statistical data to say "hey, this card is better for YOU according to what you told us you wanted".

You need to make the distinction between better value overall (given a certain number of factors) and the better value for a single person with certain picky qualities it wants.

In this review they showed that for people looking for a 7850 variant. They never intended the article (as they said in it a couple of times) the best bang for the buck. Different qualities are things you might want to consider as well.

Anyway, don't go overboard, mate. Keep it cool 8)

Aaaand, great article as usual. Though I kinda agree with Jimmy; a lil' more in-depth OC would have been nice as well. The videos though, oh God, so good.

Cheers!
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June 18, 2012 7:06:30 PM

Why the hell are they using commas instead of periods in the benchmarks?
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June 18, 2012 7:51:33 PM

directxtremeWhy the hell are they using commas instead of periods in the benchmarks?

It's a euro thing.
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June 18, 2012 9:31:33 PM

Thing is my EVGA GTX 670 FTW rips these cards at 1170 mhz ;-)
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June 19, 2012 6:07:05 AM

recon-ukJust before you said this, i thought you were reputable.how much is a 7850 GHZ ed?Fastest one i can find:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814102984570:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814130701Now, we have to take into account GPU IPC, Nvidia is far ahead of AMD with fermi, it takes a bump of 150mhz to outgun a 1300mhz 7850 with one of my 480's.At 900mhz it reaches 7950 performance.Now, 1300mhz on a 7850 is rare (1200-1250 is the limit for 98% of users).570's can hit 900 rather easily.Noise.... 7850's make noise too you know..Power consumption... only thing AMD folk could always try to throw at people, because ofc... consuming less and performing slower is great... The 570 is faster than a 7850, and will OC better, overclocks on Fermi scale amazingly.


I don't recall saying a 7850 would beat a 570, just going on techpower's review of the 7850 GHZ it ran with or around, and had some successes over the 560ti 448, it did hold scores well with the GTX 570 overall (and the 6970). The HD 7950 is probably still overpriced but holds scores very well with the GTX 670, at the end of the day it is user preference red or green its not going to matter that significantly.


With AMD and Nvidia dedicated to sequential releases we are likely to be in for a rather dull and uncompetitive GPU market.
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June 19, 2012 5:59:33 PM

Yeah, I'm a little disappointed they didn't include the Gigabyte 7950 in this round up. :/ 
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