Budget AMD build

[Lapez89]

Sunbeam Transformer Full Tower
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811166004

ASUS M4N75TD Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131637

MSI R5770 Hawk Radeon HD 5770
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127490

Rosewill Green Series RG530-S12 530W PSU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182199

AMD Phenom II X6 1075T
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103858

G.SKILL Value Series 4GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231421

SAMSUNG Spinpoint 1TB 7200 RPM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185

Grand Total after taxes and shipping:
$670.30

what do you think of this build? what would you do different? in a similiar price range... was right at $595 before taxes

 

[bowzef]

are you building this for gaming and how much is your price limit?

i would change your Power supply also

 

[Lapez89]

Primarily for gaming, mostly MMORPGs... like Guild Wars 2 when it comes out. I really wouldn't wanna go much higher then this build... I also haven't completely decided on AMD either... i really like the i5-2500k... if i had to set an absolute budget no more then $1000, i'll be buying bits and pieces at a time anyways... the more it is just means the longer it will take to build.

 

[aznshinobi]

Please fill this out.
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/261222-31-build-advice

 

[Lapez89]

Approximate Purchase Date: depending on the price, will be buying parts as i get the money

Budget Range: 500-600 not counting parts already owned

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming, watching movies, internet browsing

Parts Not Required: Keyboard, Mouse, Moniter, OS, Case, HD, Disc Drive.

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Been using Newegg, up for suggestions though.

Country of Origin: U.S.

Parts Preferences: no preference.

Overclocking: Maybe, Later on.

SLI or Crossfire: Eventually.

Monitor Resolution: 1280x1024

 

[Mu33rto]

I would go with a AMD Phenom II X4 970 Black Edition Deneb 3.5GHz http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103894 I able to OC easily to 4.2 GHz without much effort with stock fan. Now imagine with aftermarket fan or water cooler...If you do go amd make sure the motherboard is going to support the nex gen amd cpus or else it not going to be worth buying. You can pay a little more for intel i Cores and they are going to be running laps around amd fastest and greatest cpus right now.

 

[ScrewySqrl]

at $1000, you'll get a lot more powerful system with an i5-2500K and an SSD.

 

[Outlander_04]

bad bad motherboard with an nVidia chipset.
Only build AMD systems with AMD AM3 chip sets for future upgradability . There are 990 motherboards that will sli and crossfire for only a little more , and if you will only use one graphics card then you can get a 970 series chipset board for less.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128521

For gaming you will never require the 6 cores of the Phenom . The smart money is to get a 955 quad core , and over clock to higher levels if you wish . Even at stock speeds game ill run faster than the x6

RAM for the new motherboards should be 1.5 volt .

Much better power supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371030

 

[Lapez89]

at $1000, you'll get a lot more powerful system with an i5-2500K and an SSD.

i'm kinda trying to avoid $1000 right now, preferably no more then $800 total right now, i've got around $200 into it right now. If it comes to where it's worth it to spend an extra $200 more then i plan then i will... but like i said i'm paying for it as i go, i don't make a whole lot of money.

 

[Lapez89]

so the x4 is actually faster then the x6? i'm kind of a noob at this whole thing, but i always thought more cores meant more speed.

 

[bowzef]

were are you buying your RIG from i can create something nice for that price if you want me to and better

 

[Outlander_04]

so the x4 is actually faster then the x6? i'm kind of a noob at this whole thing, but i always thought more cores meant more speed.

games dont use all 6 cores. Some benefit a little from the forth core , but most games get no benefit from more than 3 cores .
You are better off with a faster clocked x4 in every gaming situation


And the money you save lets you get the latest technology AMD motherboard and the quality psu I linked , and even save a few dollars

 

[Lapez89]

were are you buying your RIG from i can create something nice for that price if you want me to and better

I'm getting from Newegg... and i have the Case, HD and Disc drive already... if you can make me something for $500 or so would be awesome, like i said in a previous post i really like the i5-2500k so if you could build something around that in that price range it'd be preferable, if not AMD is fine with me too

 

[chulex67]

x4 is slower than x6 , but i have always think of amd as an overcloker hw, easy to unlock the extra cores and get 3.8ghz on x4, but with the new intel i5 2500k... well... its kinda dissapointing, its like Phenom x6 is a Mustang, and I5 is a Mustang Cobra, see what i did ther?, u should go with intel get a p67 mobo those are solid, an ssd 120gbs and a motherboard with 2 pcie express 2.0. also get the 1600 ram, theres not much difference between 1600 and 2100, theres only like 14 or 13% of performance.

you will be getting a fast pc for atleas 3 or 4 years. Not regrets on getting i5 2500k and the ssd trust me. you are paying for the best.

and on the gpu well, thats what you have to ask yourself, are u a mainstream? or an enthusiast? iam a mainstream and i tell u 6790 or gtx 550 ti is enough for me plalying Lol, bf2, sc2,dota 2, atlantica online, dungeon and dragons and playing blue rays.

 

[Lapez89]

games dont use all 6 cores. Some benefit a little from the forth core , but most games get no benefit from more than 3 cores .
You are better off with a faster clocked x4 in every gaming situation


And the money you save lets you get the latest technology AMD motherboard and the quality psu I linked , and even save a few dollars

Ah ok, so what would you use 6+ cores for?

 

[bowzef]

http://www.hwcompare.com/9737/geforce-gtx-550-ti-vs-radeon-hd-5770/

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125367

its bit better then HD5770 and im not fan of ATI dirvers

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157271

keep same case and ram and HDD ect get a Cosair PSU
this is better bored and get a intel i5 2500k

you can trust me on this man this kinda of setup you will be happy with ASrock boreds are great for its price i recommend you buy these instead of AMD rig

and good thing about this bored it Supports SLI so in future you can buy a 2nd GTX 550 TI and woola performan like a GTX 570 so better do this way coz be cheaper upgrade for future. plus bored looks smexy

 

[Outlander_04]

Ah ok, so what would you use 6+ cores for?

6 cores pay off in video encoding , some photoshop tasks , running a server with lots of VM's , and they made AMD's marketing department very happy

but they wont do anything for games

 

[Lapez89]

6 cores pay off in video encoding , some photoshop tasks , running a server with lots of VM's , and they made AMD's marketing department very happy

but they wont do anything for games

Ah ok, thanks... glad i decided to ask about all this before just buying lol

 

[aznshinobi]

955 + Corsair Vengeance 8GB DDR3 1600 $161
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.724109
Asrock 970 Extreme4 $110
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157262
Seagate 500GB $40
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148767
Rosewill Challenger + Rosewill 630w Green $105
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.722708
HIS 6850 $170 + Free game (Avail $10 MIR)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150564
Lite-On DVD Burner $19
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106289
Total: $586 Before rebates.

Not necessarily. More cores to do NOT mean better CPU.
Example. A 1100T (Top of the Thubans) is a 6-core chip but the 2600K is a quad. The 2600K beats the 1100T pretty much in every bench, the reason being the architecture is different and the 2600K has the 32nm fab.

As for Phenom II X4 vs Phenom II X6, both are kind of on par. Can't go wrong with either. The X6's are better in multi-threaded apps, IE After Effects, Premiere Pro, Maya, workstation stuff. The X4 you could say is better in gaming, mainly since games haven't optimized for 6 cores. The build I just posted would be more than enough for what you want to do and the resolution you want to do it at. It'd future proof you for 1920x1080 as well and BullDozer.

 

[Lapez89]

awesome, thanks... do you think bulldozer will make AMD the better choice over Intel in the long run? i know Intel is working on Ivy Bridge right now too, and a lot of Mobo's are future proofing for that too.

 

[bowzef]

awesome, thanks... do you think bulldozer will make AMD the better choice over Intel in the long run? i know Intel is working on Ivy Bridge right now too, and a lot of Mobo's are future proofing for that too.

no one knows for sure mate if bulldozer is worth it but ivy bridge is support by LGA 1155 socket and im not sure if Bulldozer will be AM3

 

[Outlander_04]

awesome, thanks... do you think bulldozer will make AMD the better choice over Intel in the long run? i know Intel is working on Ivy Bridge right now too, and a lot of Mobo's are future proofing for that too.

looks like intels sandy bridge is a dead end that cant be upgraded to take ivy bridge even if the sockets are the same

http://www.fudzilla.com/processors/item/21621-ivy-bridge-22nm-sticks-with-socket-1155

 

[Lapez89]

i thought Bulldozer was already pretty much guaranteed to be AM3

 

[bowzef]

looks like intels sandy bridge is a dead end that cant be upgraded to take ivy bridge even if the sockets are the same

http://www.fudzilla.com/processors/item/21621-ivy-bridge-22nm-sticks-with-socket-1155

can't say i'm going listen to a site that it not off intels site

you must realize all this could be just base on BS and lot of time it is hell chances are it wont even be LGA 1155 socket... from way Intel does things we just don't know as much as you wanna believe things you just have wait and see when it comes out and people get there hands on it to confirm this crap

 

[Outlander_04]

i thought Bulldozer was already pretty much guaranteed to be AM3

bulldozer is AM3+
The board I linked to above is the best value AM3+ board with the very latest chipset
It can run the phenom cpu's just fine