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September 11, 2011 3:21:06 AM

Hello All,
First of all thank you for giving me some ideas that helped me build this. As I said in the thread title this is my first build since 1998 and a lot has changed.

Welcome to any ideas, changes, or advice.
US Customer, Newegg, Gaming only...looking at SLI down the line.

Thanks again,
Matt

OEM DVD Burner
Coolermaster HAF 912 Case
Samsung Spinpoint F3
EVGA GT560 Ti
Coolmaster M600 600W
Gskills RipJaw PC-1600 2x4GB
ASrock Z68 Extreme 3 Gen 3
Intel I5-2500k
Coolermaster Hyper 212+
3x120mm Fans
1x200mm Fan
ASUS 21.5" Monitor

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September 11, 2011 4:07:14 AM

that's pretty much my exact build that i just ordered. everything looks solid. nothing i would personally change.!
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September 11, 2011 4:16:25 AM

consider swapping the "Samsung Spinpoint F3 " for a WD black 1.5 or 2tb -- they are faster.... or consider using two F3s in a raid 0 array. If you stay with the single F3 suggest you put sata port setting in bios to 'raid' to be raid ready. why: boot time, level load time. And the rest fo the pc is so fast that increasing the disk speed should help.

check Wikipedia for RAID 0 if you haven't thought about it for a while then look into the intel matrix storage manager that support RAID on your MB.
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a b B Homebuilt system
September 11, 2011 5:18:51 AM

Looks good to me. I'd say consider throwing in a blu ray drive, but meh. I have one and don't use it much myself.
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September 11, 2011 5:41:15 AM

Im not a fan of Coolermaster PSU's, that one is ok but i would reather get Antec, Seasonic, Corsair, ocz, PC power and cooling or XFX. If you want sli in the future i would suggest a 700w+ psu. Dont listen to the guy that said to use RAID with a hard drive that is not designed for raid, you will only end up with major problems.
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a c 91 B Homebuilt system
September 11, 2011 6:18:53 AM

Don't go with WD drives. Like Corsair products (Except RAM) they are a rip off for the price. You pay for the brand name basically not for the performance.

As for the power supply. The 600M Silent Pro is a solid power supply. No doubt. If you don't plan to SLI/CF then it is a great power supply quiet too. I have the 600w version.
But.... Since you do..
A few to consider...
OCZ ZS 750w $100 (Avail MIR)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Antec HCG-750
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
OCZ Fatality 750w (Modular) (Avail MIR)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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September 11, 2011 7:59:36 AM

aznshinobi said:
Don't go with WD drives. Like Corsair products (Except RAM) they are a rip off for the price. You pay for the brand name basically not for the performance.

As for the power supply. The 600M Silent Pro is a solid power supply. No doubt. If you don't plan to SLI/CF then it is a great power supply quiet too. I have the 600w version.
But.... Since you do..
A few to consider...
OCZ ZS 750w $100 (Avail MIR)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Antec HCG-750
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
OCZ Fatality 750w (Modular) (Avail MIR)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

your mad, i would go with WD because they are reliable, not just because of performance/$$. and Corsair actually makke good products for the price, and they are reliable. OCZ use lesser quality components, but are still decent PSU's.
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September 11, 2011 12:24:37 PM

iam2thecrowe said:
Im not a fan of Coolermaster PSU's, that one is ok but i would reather get Antec, Seasonic, Corsair, ocz, PC power and cooling or XFX. If you want sli in the future i would suggest a 700w+ psu. Dont listen to the guy that said to use RAID with a hard drive that is not designed for raid, you will only end up with major problems.


I shifted to the Antec that you suggested.
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September 11, 2011 12:26:01 PM

aznshinobi said:
Don't go with WD drives. Like Corsair products (Except RAM) they are a rip off for the price. You pay for the brand name basically not for the performance.

As for the power supply. The 600M Silent Pro is a solid power supply. No doubt. If you don't plan to SLI/CF then it is a great power supply quiet too. I have the 600w version.
But.... Since you do..
A few to consider...
OCZ ZS 750w $100 (Avail MIR)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Antec HCG-750
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
OCZ Fatality 750w (Modular) (Avail MIR)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...




Antec HGC-750 it is.
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September 11, 2011 1:03:20 PM

subcpo said:

OEM DVD Burner
Coolermaster HAF 912 Case
Samsung Spinpoint F3
EVGA GT560 Ti
Coolmaster M600 600W
Gskills RipJaw PC-1600 2x4GB
ASrock Z68 Extreme 3 Gen 3
Intel I5-2500k
Coolermaster Hyper 212+
3x120mm Fans
1x200mm Fan
ASUS 21.5" Monitor



Is that a 1080p monitor?
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September 11, 2011 1:35:57 PM

tomskent said:
Is that a 1080p monitor?


yes but i think I may get rid of it and buy local so I can look at it up close.

I threw another F3 on there..for this Raid 0 thingymadoo...Got to read up on it later...
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a c 91 B Homebuilt system
September 11, 2011 5:26:12 PM

^ Do not put them in RAID 0/1. It's a waste of money but also It's not going to improve performance all that much. Just get wait and save up for an SSD.

iam2thecrowe said:
your mad, i would go with WD because they are reliable, not just because of performance/$$. and Corsair actually makke good products for the price, and they are reliable. OCZ use lesser quality components, but are still decent PSU's.

Hah, their Price/gig is wayyyyy more than most companies that offer similar performance. Also the performance/$$ isn't even worth it because in the end you wouldn't even notice the difference from a $85 WD Black 1TB and a $60 Samsung F3 1TB since in reality HDD speeds no matter how fast is very small of a difference in the real world. Also, more reliable than Samsung? Doesn't look like it is.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/hdd-reliability-sto...

Corsair is good for their price, what a laugh. Tell me how a $100+ H100 gets beaten by a $50 Hyper 612 is "Good for the price"?
http://www.neoseeker.com/Articles/Hardware/Reviews/Cors...

Also, OCZ makes products that are perfectly fine. SSDs, Great! PSUs better than just decent.
PSU reviews:
OCZ ZS 550w
http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=...
OCZ ZS 650w
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/OCZ-ZS-Series-65...
OCZ Fatality 750w
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/OCZ-Fatal1ty-750...
OCZ Z 850w
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/OCZ-Z-Series-850...
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September 11, 2011 11:45:00 PM

I ordered it today. Stuck with the 1 F3 Spinster. All in all settled out at about 1100 with a free game and about 40 dollar in rebate cards.

Thank you so much, will be back I am sure when I build it.
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September 11, 2011 11:46:49 PM

LOL Spinster...This build is going to go well....Do you still have to load DOS before loading windows to recognize the DVD Drive.


He he
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a c 91 B Homebuilt system
September 12, 2011 12:24:13 AM

Err... Well it's noted as UEFI now but yes you would have to set in the UEFI that you want to boot from the drive and from there it'll launch the Win7 setup
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September 12, 2011 1:52:51 AM

Gotcha Az, I will figure it out...I think it was Win 98 FE that you had to load DOS...those were the days...That 4MB Video Card and 56K modem were smoking fast!!!
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September 12, 2011 3:04:11 AM

"Also, more reliable than Samsung? Doesn't look like it is.
http://www.tomshardware.com/review [...] 681-2.html " you must be delusional, did you just have a quick look at the graph? read the next page, the majority of WD failure were due to physical impact damage or overheating, not due to manufacturing faults. Only drives larger than 500gb had a failure rate the same as samsung which ONLY had 500gb models tested. The 500gb WD drives were second best behind Hitachi. The most common failures in Samsung drives were head crashes rendering the data not recoverable. Next time read the whole article.
quote from that article
"Western Digital's construction makes drives particularly vulnerable to shocks and pressure. Unlike other manufacturers, WD does not secure the hard drive axle with a separate screw to the drive cover. Because of this, pressure exerted on the housing or cover can shift the axle, resulting in it changing its angle, and then damaging the platters. The axle's attachment to the cover is another reason. If the cover is moved, the engine may be blocked. Except for this vulnerability, though, WD hard drives are mechanically and electronically reliable." So dont drop your drive and you will be all good.
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a c 91 B Homebuilt system
September 12, 2011 3:16:21 AM

LOL So we get the same length in functionality but it costs $25 more? That makes sense.
It may just be the 500gb unit but it can be a base for the 1TB's as well. Also if you'r going to use that as your argument that it was just 500GB models. The article later states.
"Due to their construction and additional platters, these larger models are less durable, exhibiting an average lifespan of only 1.5 years. Storelab notes that read/write head failure is somewhat characteristic for WD drives. Failures primarily occur as a result of physical impact or overheating (WD heads can be sensitive at temperatures above 45°C)."
So basically the larger HDD models have a shorter life correct?

Also although that was the issue when a Samsung drive failed, that doesn't make the drive fail more. Just that being the cause of the failure.

Oh, what happened to your Corsair point and OCZ point? I guess those were wrong ehh?

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September 12, 2011 7:51:14 AM

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/HDD-6Gbit,2528-12.h... just read the review for yourself regarding comparing the performance, i know based on my experience of seeing 1000's of drives that WD is the most reliable based on my experiences. There are plenty of people like yourself who swear by samsung drives and value for money, thats fine, thats your opinion. As for OCZ vs Corsair, reading reviews the OCZ's use lower quality components in most models and corsairs CX series also uses lower quality components, but there isnt really that much of a price difference between them so i would chose the better quality unit. In fact i wouldnt get either of them id get XFX antec or seasonic as my preference.
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