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September 12, 2011 10:44:18 AM

Hey guys i,

i am trying to buy my first Gaming rig and just wondering if this rig will play crysis 1 and 2 and Flight Simulator X and all other new games on max settings and run very smooth,

Not only that but if there is any parts of it that are not power full enough, and will fail this rig. And if there are any advice i can have on this

Here are the Specs

CPU: Intel Core i7 2600K Quad Core CPU, 3.4 GHz, Unlocked, 8MB Cache, Socket LGA1155, 32nm, up to 3.8 GHz with turbo boost
CPU COOLER: Does not say the brand of the Water Cooler with single fan
Motherboard: Intel Z68 Chipset Motherboard with SLI/CrossFireX Supported
RAM: 8GB (2 x 4GB) Dual Channel DDR3 PC-10600 (1333MHz) 240-pin
GPU: nVidia GeForce GTX590 3GB 768-bit GDDR5 PCI-E 2.1/2.0/16x, 607/3414MHz, DVI / mini-DP, DX11, Fan
HDD: 3.5" 1TB / 1000GB SATA III 7200rpm HDD

So is that good enough to run Crysis 1 on max with high FPS?

Link to PC: http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/INTEL-Core-i7-2600K-GAMING-C...

Thanks,
September 12, 2011 11:19:05 AM

Well, the gtx590 is Nvidias highest performing single card, so the only way to outdo it would be to get 2 590's in the system. Will it play crysis ? For sure. You don't list what fps you expect or what resolution you want to play it at. However, that system will take on any current game at the highest of settings and be playable.

FSX. Well, the 'ole flight sim is a different story. That program is well known for bringing systems to their knees. It'll depend on a lot of things. Are we talking stock FSX ? Or maybe we're talking tons of ground texture add-ons, hi-res texture planes, weather and cloud enhancements.......the whole enchilada =P

Either way, the system you list is top of the line, and I can't see it not making any game that's out now anything less than playable.

Edit : sorry, its very late for me, so I didn't notice it was a purchase or your parts worry. Looking, will re-edit unless I fall asleep =P

2nd Edit : ok, so I looked over the link. Strangely, you are the 2nd person in the past 10 minutes posting a purchase off ebay.au =P

I will tell you the same thing I told the other poster. Businesses tend to save money in build with cheap power supplies and other parts that people don't consider when making a purchase. The "specs" of the system posted look great, but even at the link, they don't talk about what psu they use and such. So, everything I wrote earlier is still true. It's about as nice a system spec wise you can get, but the key here is if you trust the seller, and what kind of warranty they have. If they have a warranty that you are satisfied will take care of you if any of the cheaper parts like the psu fail, then go for it.
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September 12, 2011 11:27:33 AM

You would be much better off building your own PC rather than buying this one. You could get better specs for the price building your own computer. Also, a number of things on the ebay auction make me suspicious. For example, the seller doesn't indicate what PSU (power supply unit) is used, nor does he indicate the brand of any components other than the graphics card and processor.
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September 12, 2011 11:27:52 AM

thrakazog said:
Well, the gtx590 is Nvidias highest performing single card, so the only way to outdo it would be to get 2 590's in the system. Will it play crysis ? For sure. You don't list what fps you expect or what resolution you want to play it at. However, that system will take on any current game at the highest of settings and be playable.

FSX. Well, the 'ole flight sim is a different story. That program is well known for bringing systems to their knees. It'll depend on a lot of things. Are we talking stock FSX ? Or maybe we're talking tons of ground texture add-ons, hi-res texture planes, weather and cloud enhancements.......the whole enchilada =P

Either way, the system you list is top of the line, and I can't see it not making any game that's out now anything less than playable.

Edit : sorry, its very late for me, so I didn't notice it was a purchase or your parts worry. Looking, will re-edit unless I fall asleep =P


Hey thanks for the reply,

yeah i know how it is when your sleepy,

Well for the fsx i dont want the best of the best, i want smooth gameplay with ok textures,

and for crysis i want very smooth gameplay no lag at all. since i have never had a gaming pc i dont know how much fps is good or bad XD,

right now i have a bad moniter its a HP w19 i think its 1440 by 900 not sure. so yeah

Thanks hope you re pos soon ;D
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September 12, 2011 11:31:18 AM

I dont know if it alerts you to edits, so this is my " I did the edit" post. Off to bed. I will check my email to see if you posted any other questions in this thread tomorrow.
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September 12, 2011 11:33:48 AM

the_gosh_darn_batman said:
You would be much better off building your own PC rather than buying this one. You could get better specs for the price building your own computer. Also, a number of things on the ebay auction make me suspicious. For example, the seller doesn't indicate what PSU (power supply unit) is used, nor does he indicate the brand of any components other than the graphics card and processor.


Well actually i will go to their physical store, which is not far away. n probably buy from their, and if i see that they put in bad parts i might buy parts and put them together.
The thing is i am a first timer and actually not that good at putting pc together as i have not tried it before,
and am woried if the pc will not work or get errors all the time,

One big problem i live in australia and alot of good trusted websites dont ship here :(  .

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September 12, 2011 12:16:33 PM

Just checked the link, not sure if you've seen but that comes with a h67 motherboard so you'll have to click on upgrade to get the p67 motherboard so you can overclock
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September 12, 2011 12:36:24 PM

johnners2981 said:
Just checked the link, not sure if you've seen but that comes with a h67 motherboard so you'll have to click on upgrade to get the p67 motherboard so you can overclock


Yeah i know im upgrading to Z68
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September 12, 2011 12:42:41 PM

thrakazog said:
I dont know if it alerts you to edits, so this is my " I did the edit" post. Off to bed. I will check my email to see if you posted any other questions in this thread tomorrow.


Ok i have another question on Overclocking and all that stuff,

So can you overclock the gtx 590 and if you can will it make a big difference and is there risks,

same on the cpu,

And i hear about shaders what are they?

and for the z68 can you sli say two different gpu's but made by the same company eg. 1 gtx 590 and 1 gtx 580?

thanks,
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September 12, 2011 2:16:34 PM

That pc, is very strong but a bit problematic. 590 has huge temperature on load, and that case is not really well ventilated.
Cooler for the cpu matters quite a lot since you want to overclock it to get best power with that 590.

Also, what most people say is true, making your own pc would be much better.
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September 12, 2011 6:49:04 PM

Ok, I am awake again, but not fully.........still need coffee =P

Yeah, you can browse youtube for the best videos of crysis with graphic mods and expect it to look like that easily, with better fps on a gtx590. Specs are not a problem. Like I said before, make sure they have a good warranty. The fact that you can go to the store is a good thing, so you can look things over first-hand. The previous poster is correct that you want a good case to support the cpu and video card. If you can change the case, looking at the website, I would go with the CM692 or the CMH912. Those will have superior airflow and cooling vs the standard case they offer. As far as overclocking, it always involves risk. I honestly don't think you will need to OC anything on that system to get the performance you want. I wouldn't consider OCing the video card at all, it doesn't need it. Luckily the i7-2600k can OC almost effortlessly with proper cooling. As for the SLI deal. You don't want to run SLI with anything other than another 590. Which would actually be running a quad-SLI setup. The gtx590 has 2 GPU's on it, so with the just the 590, you are already basically running a SLI setup. You seem to on top of things with your part choices and going to the store to check things out, so if they seem like a good company with good warranty, again, go for it. An i7-2600k cpu and gtx590 gpu are not going to dissapoint game wise.
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September 12, 2011 9:49:14 PM

thrakazog said:
Ok, I am awake again, but not fully.........still need coffee =P

Yeah, you can browse youtube for the best videos of crysis with graphic mods and expect it to look like that easily, with better fps on a gtx590. Specs are not a problem. Like I said before, make sure they have a good warranty. The fact that you can go to the store is a good thing, so you can look things over first-hand. The previous poster is correct that you want a good case to support the cpu and video card. If you can change the case, looking at the website, I would go with the CM692 or the CMH912. Those will have superior airflow and cooling vs the standard case they offer. As far as overclocking, it always involves risk. I honestly don't think you will need to OC anything on that system to get the performance you want. I wouldn't consider OCing the video card at all, it doesn't need it. Luckily the i7-2600k can OC almost effortlessly with proper cooling. As for the SLI deal. You don't want to run SLI with anything other than another 590. Which would actually be running a quad-SLI setup. The gtx590 has 2 GPU's on it, so with the just the 590, you are already basically running a SLI setup. You seem to on top of things with your part choices and going to the store to check things out, so if they seem like a good company with good warranty, again, go for it. An i7-2600k cpu and gtx590 gpu are not going to dissapoint game wise.


Thanks a lot

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September 13, 2011 7:45:29 AM

thrakazog said:
Ok, I am awake again, but not fully.........still need coffee =P

Yeah, you can browse youtube for the best videos of crysis with graphic mods and expect it to look like that easily, with better fps on a gtx590. Specs are not a problem. Like I said before, make sure they have a good warranty. The fact that you can go to the store is a good thing, so you can look things over first-hand. The previous poster is correct that you want a good case to support the cpu and video card. If you can change the case, looking at the website, I would go with the CM692 or the CMH912. Those will have superior airflow and cooling vs the standard case they offer. As far as overclocking, it always involves risk. I honestly don't think you will need to OC anything on that system to get the performance you want. I wouldn't consider OCing the video card at all, it doesn't need it. Luckily the i7-2600k can OC almost effortlessly with proper cooling. As for the SLI deal. You don't want to run SLI with anything other than another 590. Which would actually be running a quad-SLI setup. The gtx590 has 2 GPU's on it, so with the just the 590, you are already basically running a SLI setup. You seem to on top of things with your part choices and going to the store to check things out, so if they seem like a good company with good warranty, again, go for it. An i7-2600k cpu and gtx590 gpu are not going to dissapoint game wise.


Hey i have thought about it,

and might consider building it my self.

So any tips on building.

And can you list down the type of stuff i get eg the case, what gtx 590 like xfx or gigabyte, the RAM etc

Thanks,

:D 
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September 13, 2011 9:27:23 AM

Yes, I could help with that. I won't be able to get to it right away, but if you could, post a link or links to whichever AU websites you would be getting your parts from. That way I can help you find parts you have access to, and have an idea of what they will cost. It won't do you any good if I find parts from companies that don't ship to where you are :) 
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September 13, 2011 10:13:00 AM

thrakazog said:
Yes, I could help with that. I won't be able to get to it right away, but if you could, post a link or links to whichever AU websites you would be getting your parts from. That way I can help you find parts you have access to, and have an idea of what they will cost. It won't do you any good if I find parts from companies that don't ship to where you are :) 


Well I have one

www.pcmeal.com

I can actually go to their physical store :) 
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September 13, 2011 12:12:37 PM

Can anyone help me with that?
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September 13, 2011 12:39:23 PM

thrakazog said:
Yes, I could help with that. I won't be able to get to it right away, but if you could, post a link or links to whichever AU websites you would be getting your parts from. That way I can help you find parts you have access to, and have an idea of what they will cost. It won't do you any good if I find parts from companies that don't ship to where you are :) 


I found even better one here

Penta.com.au find parts on that. :) 

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September 13, 2011 10:38:50 PM

ok, I have some time at the moment.....going to look over the penta site, and work under the assumption that you wanted the same specs as the one you were looking to purchase.
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September 13, 2011 11:53:20 PM

Okie doke, just gonna start listing some parts here.....


Going by what your original purchase specs were, then we can talk about where you might save money, since I have no idea what budget it........


CPU - http://penta.com.au/index.php?main_page=product_info&cP...

Lower cost CPU - http://penta.com.au/index.php?main_page=product_info&cP...

Review & Benchmarks - http://www.anandtech.com/show/4083/the-sandy-bridge-rev...

Notice the i5-2500k outperformed the i7-2600k on crysis warhead anda few other games.

CPU cooling- http://penta.com.au/index.php?main_page=product_info&cP...

Lower cost CPU cooling - http://penta.com.au/index.php?main_page=product_info&cP...

Amazing cooling for the price. I use it.

Motherboard - http://penta.com.au/index.php?main_page=product_info&cP...

Ram - http://penta.com.au/index.php?main_page=product_info&cP...

Hard Drive - http://penta.com.au/index.php?main_page=product_info&cP...

Lower cost HD - http://penta.com.au/index.php?main_page=product_info&cP...

Power Supply - http://penta.com.au/index.php?main_page=product_info&cP...

Optical drive - http://penta.com.au/index.php?main_page=product_info&cP...

Video card - http://penta.com.au/index.php?main_page=product_info&cP...

Lower cost Video cards - Ok, we can go with a single card or double cards here. The double card solution will be just as powerful as the 590 / 6990

Single card - http://penta.com.au/index.php?main_page=product_info&cP...

Review - http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-r...

Double card setup - 2 x http://penta.com.au/index.php?main_page=product_info&cP...

Review - http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-performance-...

The MSI 6950 cards I listed for the dual setup are the exact cards I use in my system.

Case - http://penta.com.au/index.php?main_page=product_info&cP...

Case review - http://www.hitechlegion.com/reviews/cases/12839

Lower cost case - http://www.pcmeal.com.au/computer-hardwares.html?cat=32...

About - http://www.coolermaster-usa.com/product.php?category_id...

The penta site just didn't have any good low cost cases, so I would go with this one from the original site you listed.

Ok, This is what I put together from the website you wanted. I went with the original specs. All of it is quality parts at a the best cost I could find. I also chose the parts for ease of setup since it would be your first build. As an example, I went with a huge case with plenty of room for you to work in, and the 590 is a huge card, too.

I have no idea how much that all totals. So look it over. We can easily make some adjustments to reduce cost and whatnot.

EDIT - Ok, check out the new parts and info. This should lower the cost, but still give you an awesome and top quality machine. Let me know what you think or any questions.
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September 14, 2011 8:39:57 AM

thrakazog said:
Okie doke, just gonna start listing some parts here.....


Going by what your original purchase specs were, then we can talk about where you might save money, since I have no idea what budget it........


CPU - http://penta.com.au/index.php?main_page=product_info&cP...

CPU cooling- http://penta.com.au/index.php?main_page=product_info&cP...

Motherboard - http://penta.com.au/index.php?main_page=product_info&cP...

Ram - http://penta.com.au/index.php?main_page=product_info&cP...

Hard Drive - http://penta.com.au/index.php?main_page=product_info&cP...

Power Supply - http://penta.com.au/index.php?main_page=product_info&cP...

Optical drive - http://penta.com.au/index.php?main_page=product_info&cP...

Video card - http://penta.com.au/index.php?main_page=product_info&cP...

Case - http://penta.com.au/index.php?main_page=product_info&cP...

Case review - http://www.hitechlegion.com/reviews/cases/12839

Ok, This is what I put together from the website you wanted. I went with the original specs. All of it is quality parts at a the best cost I could find. I also chose the parts for ease of setup since it would be your first build. As an example, I went with a huge case with plenty of room for you to work in, and the 590 is a huge card, too.

I have no idea how much that all totals. So look it over. We can easily make some adjustments to reduce cost and whatnot.


Ok will check it out, :) 
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September 14, 2011 8:49:10 AM

thrakazog said:
Okie doke, just gonna start listing some parts here.....


Going by what your original purchase specs were, then we can talk about where you might save money, since I have no idea what budget it........


CPU - http://penta.com.au/index.php?main_page=product_info&cP...

CPU cooling- http://penta.com.au/index.php?main_page=product_info&cP...

Motherboard - http://penta.com.au/index.php?main_page=product_info&cP...

Ram - http://penta.com.au/index.php?main_page=product_info&cP...

Hard Drive - http://penta.com.au/index.php?main_page=product_info&cP...

Power Supply - http://penta.com.au/index.php?main_page=product_info&cP...

Optical drive - http://penta.com.au/index.php?main_page=product_info&cP...

Video card - http://penta.com.au/index.php?main_page=product_info&cP...

Case - http://penta.com.au/index.php?main_page=product_info&cP...

Case review - http://www.hitechlegion.com/reviews/cases/12839

Ok, This is what I put together from the website you wanted. I went with the original specs. All of it is quality parts at a the best cost I could find. I also chose the parts for ease of setup since it would be your first build. As an example, I went with a huge case with plenty of room for you to work in, and the 590 is a huge card, too.

I have no idea how much that all totals. So look it over. We can easily make some adjustments to reduce cost and whatnot.


$2237 thats $500 more that the one on ebay hmm..............
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September 14, 2011 9:00:49 AM

That's because of part quality. They are most likely cutting corners to reduce price, such as the power supply and other areas. It's why I said as long as they had a good warranty, where they fix or replace failures for a good while, and if they were trustworthy, go for it. I went with the specs of that unit, but you could get good gaming performance with lesser parts than are listed. The 590 is almost $1000 by itself. You could get a couple lower end cards and still get the same performance. Also, the core i5-2500k is $100 less and still a top gaming performer. The i7-2600k would beat it in rendering videos if you like making movies and such, though. I'm going to edit the original parts post with lower cost alternatives. Look it over and see what you think.
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September 14, 2011 9:15:50 AM

thrakazog said:
That's because of part quality. They are most likely cutting corners to reduce price, such as the power supply and other areas. It's why I said as long as they had a good warranty, where they fix or replace failures for a good while, and if they were trustworthy, go for it. I went with the specs of that unit, but you could get good gaming performance with lesser parts than are listed. The 590 is almost $1000 by itself. You could get a couple lower end cards and still get the same performance. Also, the core i5-2500k is $100 less and still a top gaming performer. The i7-2600k would beat it in rendering videos if you like making movies and such, though. I'm going to edit the original parts post with lower cost alternatives. Look it over and see what you think.


Well i guess your right,

That extra is worth it. And if the parts are poor in quality, you will still have to do something about and you may even buy another pair.

And how hard is it to build one?
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September 14, 2011 9:46:57 AM

Ok, I posted the edited list. Check out the lower cost parts I selected and the reviews and info on them. You will find they are some of the best deals in high-end gaming.

I built my system wanting to be able to play every game on highest settings, and use the i5-2500k cpu, the coolermaster 212+ cooler, the 2 MSI 6950's.....and I can play Crysis 2 with the DX11 ultra pack and 64-bit hi-res texture pack at 60fps.

I always say when you get a new computer, you will either spend money or time. It's not horribly difficult to build one, but doing it for the first time can be frustrating. It helps if you have a friend with some experience to help. You would also need to add an OS of your choice to the list to install on the computer. Win 7 home premium 64-bit is all you would need, but you could get professional or ultimate if you wanted.

Purchasing pre-built will certainly be easier. You just need to be sure that the people who built it stand behind their product and will support it if anything goes wrong.
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September 14, 2011 10:01:16 AM

thrakazog said:
Ok, I posted the edited list. Check out the lower cost parts I selected and the reviews and info on them. You will find they are some of the best deals in high-end gaming.

I built my system wanting to be able to play every game on highest settings, and use the i5-2500k cpu, the coolermaster 212+ cooler, the 2 MSI 6950's.....and I can play Crysis 2 with the DX11 ultra pack and 64-bit hi-res texture pack at 60fps.

I always say when you get a new computer, you will either spend money or time. It's not horribly difficult to build one, but doing it for the first time can be frustrating. It helps if you have a friend with some experience to help. You would also need to add an OS of your choice to the list to install on the computer. Win 7 home premium 64-bit is all you would need, but you could get professional or ultimate if you wanted.

Purchasing pre-built will certainly be easier. You just need to be sure that the people who built it stand behind their product and will support it if anything goes wrong.


But is 60fps Like very very smooth? because i dont want any lag at all,

If it gives me lag i can just try to get the higher priced
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September 14, 2011 11:37:01 AM

thrakazog said:
Ok, I posted the edited list. Check out the lower cost parts I selected and the reviews and info on them. You will find they are some of the best deals in high-end gaming.

I built my system wanting to be able to play every game on highest settings, and use the i5-2500k cpu, the coolermaster 212+ cooler, the 2 MSI 6950's.....and I can play Crysis 2 with the DX11 ultra pack and 64-bit hi-res texture pack at 60fps.

I always say when you get a new computer, you will either spend money or time. It's not horribly difficult to build one, but doing it for the first time can be frustrating. It helps if you have a friend with some experience to help. You would also need to add an OS of your choice to the list to install on the computer. Win 7 home premium 64-bit is all you would need, but you could get professional or ultimate if you wanted.

Purchasing pre-built will certainly be easier. You just need to be sure that the people who built it stand behind their product and will support it if anything goes wrong.


How about 3x XFX PCIe HD6950 2GB, HD-695A-CNFC for only $858, thats 6GB of awesome Grpahics power for less than a gtx 590

Here is the link http://penta.com.au/index.php?main_page=product_info&cP...

That sounds good.
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September 14, 2011 7:43:23 PM

If you want to do 3 or more cards, we'll have to look at a much more expensive motherboard to support it. Also, the way X-fire and SLI work, you only get the total amount of video ram of the lowest card in a setup. So with the 3 cards, you still will have a total of 2gb of video ram. You would have more gpu power from 3 cards, for sure, just not sure how much. When I have a chance today, I will look over the penta site and see if they have a mobo/cpu setup to support triple x-fire.
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September 14, 2011 8:11:45 PM

Bah, I should of had my coffee before I started posting. Looks like there is a gigabyte Z68 board that will support the triple cards for a cheaper price, and its Z68 chipset instead of the previous board, which is a P67.

http://penta.com.au/index.php?main_page=product_info&cP...

Both are very nice boards. The major difference is one is the older P67 chipset, and the other the newest Z68 chipset. So you can look them over and decide which you prefer.

Oh, if you're going with a powerhouse triple card setup, I would go with the larger case as well. I also just realized we'll have to up the power supply. Sorry, finally got my first cup of coffee down, more to go =P Let me find the PSU you'll need for triple X-fire.....

http://penta.com.au/index.php?main_page=product_info&cP...

or

http://penta.com.au/index.php?main_page=product_info&cP...

or

http://penta.com.au/index.php?main_page=product_info&cP...

You can stay with the i5-2500k for a triple card setup, but I would switch back to the more expensive Noctua cpu cooler. You will probably want to overclock it to around 4.1 - 4.4 Ghz so it doesn't bottleneck the performance of having the powerful 3 card graphics setup.
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September 15, 2011 7:40:59 AM

thrakazog said:
Hey, gonna add some links to building PC's so you get an idea of what's basically involved. These are some of the most helpful videos on the net. Highly recommend you watch them all.

1. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPIXAtNGGCw&feature=rela...

2. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_56kyib-Ls&feature=relm...

3. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxaVBsXEiok&feature=relm...

Tips - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7wOl7XS4ps&feature=relm...


Is it worth all the extra money?


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September 15, 2011 8:01:55 AM

Well, I suppose that depends on you. A dual card system is more than enough to make every game out playable. When I built my system, I looked at the options, and decided a 2 card setup was enough for me. I run crysis 2 at 1080p resolution, with the DX11 ultra pack and the 64-bit Hi-res texture pack. Only during the most demanding of moments does it drop briefly into the 30's fps wise, then pops back up to the 60 fps range. I consider it playable that way. Every other game out, my 2 card system crushes, so I have no complaints. So, to me, the 2 cards was the best price vs performance setup. You just need to decide what would make you happy, and go with it. I'm just trying to set you up with the best parts to achieve whichever you choose. Feel free to ask anything else you need.
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September 15, 2011 8:08:00 AM

thrakazog said:
Well, I suppose that depends on you. A dual card system is more than enough to make every game out playable. When I built my system, I looked at the options, and decided a 2 card setup was enough for me. I run crysis 2 at 1080p resolution, with the DX11 ultra pack and the 64-bit Hi-res texture pack. Only during the most demanding of moments does it drop briefly into the 30's fps wise, then pops back up to the 60 fps range. I consider it playable that way. Every other game out, my 2 card system crushes, so I have no complaints. So, to me, the 2 cards was the best price vs performance setup. You just need to decide what would make you happy, and go with it. I'm just trying to set you up with the best parts to achieve whichever you choose. Feel free to ask anything else you need.


What GPU are you using for your 2 card system?
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September 15, 2011 8:09:52 AM

thrakazog said:
Bah, I should of had my coffee before I started posting. Looks like there is a gigabyte Z68 board that will support the triple cards for a cheaper price, and its Z68 chipset instead of the previous board, which is a P67.

http://penta.com.au/index.php?main_page=product_info&cP...

Both are very nice boards. The major difference is one is the older P67 chipset, and the other the newest Z68 chipset. So you can look them over and decide which you prefer.

Oh, if you're going with a powerhouse triple card setup, I would go with the larger case as well. I also just realized we'll have to up the power supply. Sorry, finally got my first cup of coffee down, more to go =P Let me find the PSU you'll need for triple X-fire.....

http://penta.com.au/index.php?main_page=product_info&cP...

or

http://penta.com.au/index.php?main_page=product_info&cP...

or

http://penta.com.au/index.php?main_page=product_info&cP...

You can stay with the i5-2500k for a triple card setup, but I would switch back to the more expensive Noctua cpu cooler. You will probably want to overclock it to around 4.1 - 4.4 Ghz so it doesn't bottleneck the performance of having the powerful 3 card graphics setup.


How do i overclock the cpu? is it hard?

and how risky?
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September 15, 2011 8:13:56 AM

I went with two 6950's for my setup. OCing always has risk. It is very simple to do though. Most motherboards will have software where you just click a button with the mouse and reboot. If you go with a 2 card system though, I would suggest testing it out without OCing the cpu. If you're happy with the results, then don't worry about it. If you feel after a while that you want to try to squeeze a few more fps out of it, then you can flip the switch.

I edited in a link to Ocing....just something for you to look at so you know more about it.....

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cpus/2011/01/07/how-to...
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September 15, 2011 8:48:55 AM

Oh, and I went with the two 6950's, but you could go with anything you wanted. A couple gtx580's in SLI would be quite the system as well.
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September 15, 2011 11:49:39 AM

thrakazog said:
Oh, and I went with the two 6950's, but you could go with anything you wanted. A couple gtx580's in SLI would be quite the system as well.


Well i wanna stay with the GTX 590 becuase of its PhysX and, i dont know what it is i think its called CUDAS? i am not sure, and because i heard its one of the worlds most silent GPU and the coldest. :pt1cable:  :pt1cable:  :pt1cable: 
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September 15, 2011 12:43:55 PM

thrakazog said:
Oh, and I went with the two 6950's, but you could go with anything you wanted. A couple gtx580's in SLI would be quite the system as well.


Does the Asus P8Z68-V PRO MB have Triple channel memory or Quad?

Cause if quad i will get 4 2gb RAM i heard thats better and if three channel memory i will get two two 2gb and 1 4gb will that work?
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September 15, 2011 6:53:02 PM

All, right....I'm up, but no coffee yet =P

1. Having any Nvidia card will give you physX capability.

2. The 590 and the 6990 are the only single slot cards in the world that are actually louder than having 2-3 of any other card. Silent they are not =P

3. Two 3GB GTX 580's will outperform a single GTX 590 by around 20-30%. It doesn't mean you need that much power. But just to clarify.

I.E. - 2 x http://penta.com.au/index.php?main_page=product_info&cP...

......will easily outperform any single gtx590

3. The sandybridge cpu's use dual-channel ram. So you either want 2 x 4GB for 8 gigs total, or 4 x 4GB for 16 gigs......whichever amount of ram you prefer.

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September 16, 2011 1:16:37 PM

thrakazog said:
All, right....I'm up, but no coffee yet =P

1. Having any Nvidia card will give you physX capability.

2. The 590 and the 6990 are the only single slot cards in the world that are actually louder than having 2-3 of any other card. Silent they are not =P

3. Two 3GB GTX 580's will outperform a single GTX 590 by around 20-30%. It doesn't mean you need that much power. But just to clarify.

I.E. - 2 x http://penta.com.au/index.php?main_page=product_info&cP...

......will easily outperform any single gtx590

3. The sandybridge cpu's use dual-channel ram. So you either want 2 x 4GB for 8 gigs total, or 4 x 4GB for 16 gigs......whichever amount of ram you prefer.


So know i know which parts to get,

i am scared of building it because i am worried if it just wont work out, with errors or something breaks etc,
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September 16, 2011 5:52:25 PM

Well, to build or not to build is up to you. Sometimes nothing goes wrong. Sometimes something does. You never know. If you don't want to deal with that sort of stuff, then buying a rig from someone is the easiest way to go. Just make sure they are a good company, and that they have a good warranty and support their product. That way if something goes wrong, they have you covered.

If you wanted "the best of both worlds" so to speak, there is one company I know of in the US that sells systems with all top of the line parts. But, it would probably be fairly expensive shipping to Australia. I'll include a link in case you want to browse their builds and parts they use.

http://www.digitalstormonline.com/

Buying a system pre-built can certainly save some frustration and even prevent baldness =P It's up to you. The important thing is you just get a computer you are happy with in the end. So buy or build, as long as you're happy :) 
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September 16, 2011 6:05:01 PM

I would say this

You don't need the i7, go with the i5k

Get better ram (1600)

Get the Asrock Gen 3 motherboard

Go with the MSI gtx 580 lightning xtreme, better card
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September 19, 2011 11:41:12 AM

thrakazog said:
Well, to build or not to build is up to you. Sometimes nothing goes wrong. Sometimes something does. You never know. If you don't want to deal with that sort of stuff, then buying a rig from someone is the easiest way to go. Just make sure they are a good company, and that they have a good warranty and support their product. That way if something goes wrong, they have you covered.

If you wanted "the best of both worlds" so to speak, there is one company I know of in the US that sells systems with all top of the line parts. But, it would probably be fairly expensive shipping to Australia. I'll include a link in case you want to browse their builds and parts they use.

http://www.digitalstormonline.com/

Buying a system pre-built can certainly save some frustration and even prevent baldness =P It's up to you. The important thing is you just get a computer you are happy with in the end. So buy or build, as long as you're happy :) 


Ok so it appears that they don't have the gtx 590 available, so instead I'm thinking of going with a gigabyte gf gtx 580 3gb On 2 way SLi, would that be better or worse?

And I worked it out and the price of the pc in total would be $2100-2200
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September 19, 2011 6:56:56 PM

2 x gtx 3gb 580's in SLI will be much better than a 590......probably 20-30% better performance.
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September 19, 2011 7:51:02 PM

For my recent build I went with the i5-2500k, 2 gtx 580's (1.5gb), an ASRock Extreme 7 Gen 3, 16GB DDR3 1600 RAM, Crucial M4 128GB SSD.

So far it can run everything I've thrown at it on max settings (Call of Duty Black Ops, Metro 2033, etc.) ... Metro got a steady 40-50 fps during intense scenes (Dropping to 32ish fps once or twice) and ran 70-80 while running around etc.

I haven't OC'd yet ... Probably won't until I run into FPS issues I guess...

Note that I'm definitely no expert on this stuff, the guys at Toms helped me the entire time lol

Edit: Also, I had never built a computer before and found it extremely fun. Definitely worth the experience!
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September 23, 2011 6:47:54 AM

thrakazog said:
2 x gtx 3gb 580's in SLI will be much better than a 590......probably 20-30% better performance.


Ok so now its between the MSi GTX580 LIGHTNING EXTREME EDITION or EVGA PCIe GTX580 3096MB, they are both 3gb but which one ?
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September 23, 2011 8:55:41 AM

I would personally go with 2 MSI lightning extremes, but I don't recall seeing them at the penta website. If you can get the MSI extremes, that's the way I would go. I told my son to get those as well for his new build. Those exact cards, as a matter of fact. He's building his PC in a week in California with those 2 cards.
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September 23, 2011 2:30:13 PM

thrakazog said:
I would personally go with 2 MSI lightning extremes, but I don't recall seeing them at the penta website. If you can get the MSI extremes, that's the way I would go. I told my son to get those as well for his new build. Those exact cards, as a matter of fact. He's building his PC in a week in California with those 2 cards.


Ohh yeah if i go with those cards i found a new store,
its alot closer.

www.arc.com.au

thats where im getting the stuff from if i go with msi.
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September 23, 2011 11:11:19 PM

Cool. Then I would get the MSI cards. My 6950 X-fire setup is also MSI cards, they have served me well.
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