High-End Gaming Rig ||Opinion and Advice||

[gamingrigboy]

Hey guys i,

i am trying to buy my first Gaming rig and just wondering if this rig will play crysis 1 and 2 and Flight Simulator X and all other new games on max settings and run very smooth,

Not only that but if there is any parts of it that are not power full enough, and will fail this rig. And if there are any advice i can have on this

Here are the Specs

CPU: Intel Core i7 2600K Quad Core CPU, 3.4 GHz, Unlocked, 8MB Cache, Socket LGA1155, 32nm, up to 3.8 GHz with turbo boost
CPU COOLER: Does not say the brand of the Water Cooler with single fan
Motherboard: Intel Z68 Chipset Motherboard with SLI/CrossFireX Supported
RAM: 8GB (2 x 4GB) Dual Channel DDR3 PC-10600 (1333MHz) 240-pin
GPU: nVidia GeForce GTX590 3GB 768-bit GDDR5 PCI-E 2.1/2.0/16x, 607/3414MHz, DVI / mini-DP, DX11, Fan
HDD: 3.5" 1TB / 1000GB SATA III 7200rpm HDD

So is that good enough to run Crysis 1 on max with high FPS?

Link to PC: http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/INTEL-Core-i7-2600K-GAMING-COMPUTER-PC-8GB-DDR3-GTX590-/230617682448?pt=AU_comp_dekstop&hash=item35b1e29210

Thanks,

 

[thrakazog]

Well, the gtx590 is Nvidias highest performing single card, so the only way to outdo it would be to get 2 590's in the system. Will it play crysis ? For sure. You don't list what fps you expect or what resolution you want to play it at. However, that system will take on any current game at the highest of settings and be playable.

FSX. Well, the 'ole flight sim is a different story. That program is well known for bringing systems to their knees. It'll depend on a lot of things. Are we talking stock FSX ? Or maybe we're talking tons of ground texture add-ons, hi-res texture planes, weather and cloud enhancements.......the whole enchilada =P

Either way, the system you list is top of the line, and I can't see it not making any game that's out now anything less than playable.

Edit : sorry, its very late for me, so I didn't notice it was a purchase or your parts worry. Looking, will re-edit unless I fall asleep =P

2nd Edit : ok, so I looked over the link. Strangely, you are the 2nd person in the past 10 minutes posting a purchase off ebay.au =P

I will tell you the same thing I told the other poster. Businesses tend to save money in build with cheap power supplies and other parts that people don't consider when making a purchase. The "specs" of the system posted look great, but even at the link, they don't talk about what psu they use and such. So, everything I wrote earlier is still true. It's about as nice a system spec wise you can get, but the key here is if you trust the seller, and what kind of warranty they have. If they have a warranty that you are satisfied will take care of you if any of the cheaper parts like the psu fail, then go for it.

 

[the_gosh_darn_batman]

You would be much better off building your own PC rather than buying this one. You could get better specs for the price building your own computer. Also, a number of things on the ebay auction make me suspicious. For example, the seller doesn't indicate what PSU (power supply unit) is used, nor does he indicate the brand of any components other than the graphics card and processor.

 

[gamingrigboy]

Well, the gtx590 is Nvidias highest performing single card, so the only way to outdo it would be to get 2 590's in the system. Will it play crysis ? For sure. You don't list what fps you expect or what resolution you want to play it at. However, that system will take on any current game at the highest of settings and be playable.

FSX. Well, the 'ole flight sim is a different story. That program is well known for bringing systems to their knees. It'll depend on a lot of things. Are we talking stock FSX ? Or maybe we're talking tons of ground texture add-ons, hi-res texture planes, weather and cloud enhancements.......the whole enchilada =P

Either way, the system you list is top of the line, and I can't see it not making any game that's out now anything less than playable.

Edit : sorry, its very late for me, so I didn't notice it was a purchase or your parts worry. Looking, will re-edit unless I fall asleep =P

Hey thanks for the reply,

yeah i know how it is when your sleepy,

Well for the fsx i dont want the best of the best, i want smooth gameplay with ok textures,

and for crysis i want very smooth gameplay no lag at all. since i have never had a gaming pc i dont know how much fps is good or bad XD,

right now i have a bad moniter its a HP w19 i think its 1440 by 900 not sure. so yeah

Thanks hope you re pos soon ;D

 

[thrakazog]

I dont know if it alerts you to edits, so this is my " I did the edit" post. Off to bed. I will check my email to see if you posted any other questions in this thread tomorrow.

 

[gamingrigboy]

You would be much better off building your own PC rather than buying this one. You could get better specs for the price building your own computer. Also, a number of things on the ebay auction make me suspicious. For example, the seller doesn't indicate what PSU (power supply unit) is used, nor does he indicate the brand of any components other than the graphics card and processor.

Well actually i will go to their physical store, which is not far away. n probably buy from their, and if i see that they put in bad parts i might buy parts and put them together.
The thing is i am a first timer and actually not that good at putting pc together as i have not tried it before,
and am woried if the pc will not work or get errors all the time,

One big problem i live in australia and alot of good trusted websites dont ship here .

 

[johnners2981]

Just checked the link, not sure if you've seen but that comes with a h67 motherboard so you'll have to click on upgrade to get the p67 motherboard so you can overclock

 

[gamingrigboy]

Just checked the link, not sure if you've seen but that comes with a h67 motherboard so you'll have to click on upgrade to get the p67 motherboard so you can overclock

Yeah i know im upgrading to Z68

 

[gamingrigboy]

I dont know if it alerts you to edits, so this is my " I did the edit" post. Off to bed. I will check my email to see if you posted any other questions in this thread tomorrow.

Ok i have another question on Overclocking and all that stuff,

So can you overclock the gtx 590 and if you can will it make a big difference and is there risks,

same on the cpu,

And i hear about shaders what are they?

and for the z68 can you sli say two different gpu's but made by the same company eg. 1 gtx 590 and 1 gtx 580?

thanks,

 

[gamingrigboy]

Would this rig be better than this i see all my specs are better (i think XD)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voNwYHVRmMg&feature=watch_response

 

[cats_Paw]

That pc, is very strong but a bit problematic. 590 has huge temperature on load, and that case is not really well ventilated.
Cooler for the cpu matters quite a lot since you want to overclock it to get best power with that 590.

Also, what most people say is true, making your own pc would be much better.

 

[thrakazog]

Ok, I am awake again, but not fully.........still need coffee =P

Yeah, you can browse youtube for the best videos of crysis with graphic mods and expect it to look like that easily, with better fps on a gtx590. Specs are not a problem. Like I said before, make sure they have a good warranty. The fact that you can go to the store is a good thing, so you can look things over first-hand. The previous poster is correct that you want a good case to support the cpu and video card. If you can change the case, looking at the website, I would go with the CM692 or the CMH912. Those will have superior airflow and cooling vs the standard case they offer. As far as overclocking, it always involves risk. I honestly don't think you will need to OC anything on that system to get the performance you want. I wouldn't consider OCing the video card at all, it doesn't need it. Luckily the i7-2600k can OC almost effortlessly with proper cooling. As for the SLI deal. You don't want to run SLI with anything other than another 590. Which would actually be running a quad-SLI setup. The gtx590 has 2 GPU's on it, so with the just the 590, you are already basically running a SLI setup. You seem to on top of things with your part choices and going to the store to check things out, so if they seem like a good company with good warranty, again, go for it. An i7-2600k cpu and gtx590 gpu are not going to dissapoint game wise.

 

[gamingrigboy]

Ok, I am awake again, but not fully.........still need coffee =P

Yeah, you can browse youtube for the best videos of crysis with graphic mods and expect it to look like that easily, with better fps on a gtx590. Specs are not a problem. Like I said before, make sure they have a good warranty. The fact that you can go to the store is a good thing, so you can look things over first-hand. The previous poster is correct that you want a good case to support the cpu and video card. If you can change the case, looking at the website, I would go with the CM692 or the CMH912. Those will have superior airflow and cooling vs the standard case they offer. As far as overclocking, it always involves risk. I honestly don't think you will need to OC anything on that system to get the performance you want. I wouldn't consider OCing the video card at all, it doesn't need it. Luckily the i7-2600k can OC almost effortlessly with proper cooling. As for the SLI deal. You don't want to run SLI with anything other than another 590. Which would actually be running a quad-SLI setup. The gtx590 has 2 GPU's on it, so with the just the 590, you are already basically running a SLI setup. You seem to on top of things with your part choices and going to the store to check things out, so if they seem like a good company with good warranty, again, go for it. An i7-2600k cpu and gtx590 gpu are not going to dissapoint game wise.

Thanks a lot

 

[gamingrigboy]

Ok, I am awake again, but not fully.........still need coffee =P

Yeah, you can browse youtube for the best videos of crysis with graphic mods and expect it to look like that easily, with better fps on a gtx590. Specs are not a problem. Like I said before, make sure they have a good warranty. The fact that you can go to the store is a good thing, so you can look things over first-hand. The previous poster is correct that you want a good case to support the cpu and video card. If you can change the case, looking at the website, I would go with the CM692 or the CMH912. Those will have superior airflow and cooling vs the standard case they offer. As far as overclocking, it always involves risk. I honestly don't think you will need to OC anything on that system to get the performance you want. I wouldn't consider OCing the video card at all, it doesn't need it. Luckily the i7-2600k can OC almost effortlessly with proper cooling. As for the SLI deal. You don't want to run SLI with anything other than another 590. Which would actually be running a quad-SLI setup. The gtx590 has 2 GPU's on it, so with the just the 590, you are already basically running a SLI setup. You seem to on top of things with your part choices and going to the store to check things out, so if they seem like a good company with good warranty, again, go for it. An i7-2600k cpu and gtx590 gpu are not going to dissapoint game wise.

Hey i have thought about it,

and might consider building it my self.

So any tips on building.

And can you list down the type of stuff i get eg the case, what gtx 590 like xfx or gigabyte, the RAM etc

Thanks,

 

[thrakazog]

Yes, I could help with that. I won't be able to get to it right away, but if you could, post a link or links to whichever AU websites you would be getting your parts from. That way I can help you find parts you have access to, and have an idea of what they will cost. It won't do you any good if I find parts from companies that don't ship to where you are

 

[gamingrigboy]

Yes, I could help with that. I won't be able to get to it right away, but if you could, post a link or links to whichever AU websites you would be getting your parts from. That way I can help you find parts you have access to, and have an idea of what they will cost. It won't do you any good if I find parts from companies that don't ship to where you are

Well I have one

www.pcmeal.com

I can actually go to their physical store

 

[gamingrigboy]

Can anyone help me with that?

 

[gamingrigboy]

Yes, I could help with that. I won't be able to get to it right away, but if you could, post a link or links to whichever AU websites you would be getting your parts from. That way I can help you find parts you have access to, and have an idea of what they will cost. It won't do you any good if I find parts from companies that don't ship to where you are

I found even better one here

Penta.com.au find parts on that.

 

[thrakazog]

ok, I have some time at the moment.....going to look over the penta site, and work under the assumption that you wanted the same specs as the one you were looking to purchase.

 

[thrakazog]

Okie doke, just gonna start listing some parts here.....


Going by what your original purchase specs were, then we can talk about where you might save money, since I have no idea what budget it........


CPU - http://penta.com.au/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=184_186_382&products_id=47861

Lower cost CPU - http://penta.com.au/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=184_186_382&products_id=47878

Review & Benchmarks - http://www.anandtech.com/show/4083/the-sandy-bridge-review-intel-core-i7-2600k-i5-2500k-core-i3-2100-tested/20

Notice the i5-2500k outperformed the i7-2600k on crysis warhead anda few other games.

CPU cooling- http://penta.com.au/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=696_720_3716&products_id=63358

Lower cost CPU cooling - http://penta.com.au/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=696_720_1335&products_id=12553

Amazing cooling for the price. I use it.

Motherboard - http://penta.com.au/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=206_207_461&products_id=55431

Ram - http://penta.com.au/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=423_424_659&products_id=62346

Hard Drive - http://penta.com.au/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=433_458_665&products_id=51571

Lower cost HD - http://penta.com.au/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=433_458_665&products_id=51583

Power Supply - http://penta.com.au/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=609_1792_1793&products_id=49444

Optical drive - http://penta.com.au/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=771_773_783_864&products_id=5503

Video card - http://penta.com.au/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=202_203_933&products_id=55821

Lower cost Video cards - Ok, we can go with a single card or double cards here. The double card solution will be just as powerful as the 590 / 6990

Single card - http://penta.com.au/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=202_203_519&products_id=59580

Review - http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/43487-gigabyte-gtx-580-super-overclock-review.html

Double card setup - 2 x http://penta.com.au/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=202_204_437&products_id=63607

Review - http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-performance-radeon-geforce,3018-6.html

The MSI 6950 cards I listed for the dual setup are the exact cards I use in my system.

Case - http://penta.com.au/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=609_706_3627&products_id=59151

Case review - http://www.hitechlegion.com/reviews/cases/12839

Lower cost case - http://www.pcmeal.com.au/computer-hardwares.html?cat=32&manufacturer=677

About - http://www.coolermaster-usa.com/product.php?category_id=19&product_id=3009

The penta site just didn't have any good low cost cases, so I would go with this one from the original site you listed.

Ok, This is what I put together from the website you wanted. I went with the original specs. All of it is quality parts at a the best cost I could find. I also chose the parts for ease of setup since it would be your first build. As an example, I went with a huge case with plenty of room for you to work in, and the 590 is a huge card, too.

I have no idea how much that all totals. So look it over. We can easily make some adjustments to reduce cost and whatnot.

EDIT - Ok, check out the new parts and info. This should lower the cost, but still give you an awesome and top quality machine. Let me know what you think or any questions.

 

[gamingrigboy]

Okie doke, just gonna start listing some parts here.....


Going by what your original purchase specs were, then we can talk about where you might save money, since I have no idea what budget it........


CPU - http://penta.com.au/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=184_186_382&products_id=47861

CPU cooling- http://penta.com.au/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=696_720_3716&products_id=63358

Motherboard - http://penta.com.au/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=206_207_461&products_id=55431

Ram - http://penta.com.au/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=423_424_659&products_id=62346

Hard Drive - http://penta.com.au/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=433_458_665&products_id=51571

Power Supply - http://penta.com.au/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=609_1792_1793&products_id=49444

Optical drive - http://penta.com.au/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=771_773_783_864&products_id=5503

Video card - http://penta.com.au/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=202_203_933&products_id=55821

Case - http://penta.com.au/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=609_706_3627&products_id=59151

Case review - http://www.hitechlegion.com/reviews/cases/12839

Ok, This is what I put together from the website you wanted. I went with the original specs. All of it is quality parts at a the best cost I could find. I also chose the parts for ease of setup since it would be your first build. As an example, I went with a huge case with plenty of room for you to work in, and the 590 is a huge card, too.

I have no idea how much that all totals. So look it over. We can easily make some adjustments to reduce cost and whatnot.

Ok will check it out,

 

[gamingrigboy]

Okie doke, just gonna start listing some parts here.....


Going by what your original purchase specs were, then we can talk about where you might save money, since I have no idea what budget it........


CPU - http://penta.com.au/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=184_186_382&products_id=47861

CPU cooling- http://penta.com.au/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=696_720_3716&products_id=63358

Motherboard - http://penta.com.au/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=206_207_461&products_id=55431

Ram - http://penta.com.au/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=423_424_659&products_id=62346

Hard Drive - http://penta.com.au/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=433_458_665&products_id=51571

Power Supply - http://penta.com.au/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=609_1792_1793&products_id=49444

Optical drive - http://penta.com.au/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=771_773_783_864&products_id=5503

Video card - http://penta.com.au/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=202_203_933&products_id=55821

Case - http://penta.com.au/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=609_706_3627&products_id=59151

Case review - http://www.hitechlegion.com/reviews/cases/12839

Ok, This is what I put together from the website you wanted. I went with the original specs. All of it is quality parts at a the best cost I could find. I also chose the parts for ease of setup since it would be your first build. As an example, I went with a huge case with plenty of room for you to work in, and the 590 is a huge card, too.

I have no idea how much that all totals. So look it over. We can easily make some adjustments to reduce cost and whatnot.

$2237 thats $500 more that the one on ebay hmm..............

 

[thrakazog]

That's because of part quality. They are most likely cutting corners to reduce price, such as the power supply and other areas. It's why I said as long as they had a good warranty, where they fix or replace failures for a good while, and if they were trustworthy, go for it. I went with the specs of that unit, but you could get good gaming performance with lesser parts than are listed. The 590 is almost $1000 by itself. You could get a couple lower end cards and still get the same performance. Also, the core i5-2500k is $100 less and still a top gaming performer. The i7-2600k would beat it in rendering videos if you like making movies and such, though. I'm going to edit the original parts post with lower cost alternatives. Look it over and see what you think.

 

[gamingrigboy]

That's because of part quality. They are most likely cutting corners to reduce price, such as the power supply and other areas. It's why I said as long as they had a good warranty, where they fix or replace failures for a good while, and if they were trustworthy, go for it. I went with the specs of that unit, but you could get good gaming performance with lesser parts than are listed. The 590 is almost $1000 by itself. You could get a couple lower end cards and still get the same performance. Also, the core i5-2500k is $100 less and still a top gaming performer. The i7-2600k would beat it in rendering videos if you like making movies and such, though. I'm going to edit the original parts post with lower cost alternatives. Look it over and see what you think.

Well i guess your right,

That extra is worth it. And if the parts are poor in quality, you will still have to do something about and you may even buy another pair.

And how hard is it to build one?

 

[thrakazog]

Ok, I posted the edited list. Check out the lower cost parts I selected and the reviews and info on them. You will find they are some of the best deals in high-end gaming.

I built my system wanting to be able to play every game on highest settings, and use the i5-2500k cpu, the coolermaster 212+ cooler, the 2 MSI 6950's.....and I can play Crysis 2 with the DX11 ultra pack and 64-bit hi-res texture pack at 60fps.

I always say when you get a new computer, you will either spend money or time. It's not horribly difficult to build one, but doing it for the first time can be frustrating. It helps if you have a friend with some experience to help. You would also need to add an OS of your choice to the list to install on the computer. Win 7 home premium 64-bit is all you would need, but you could get professional or ultimate if you wanted.

Purchasing pre-built will certainly be easier. You just need to be sure that the people who built it stand behind their product and will support it if anything goes wrong.