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ATI Radeon 5850 1GB and Crysis 2 with all updates

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July 13, 2011 12:18:53 AM

I was just wondering whether a 5850 1GB at normal clcok speeds would be able to play crysis 2 with the specs on the highest settings, with the new v1.9, dx11 and high res updates for the game. if not what should i do, go for a crossfire 5850/5850 or 5850/5870, or just get another graphics card?

This is my system if it helps:
CPU: AMD Phenom II x4 965 3.4GHz
Mem: 4GB DDR3 G.Skill Ripjaws 1066Mhz
MoBo: Gigabyte GA MA790XT UD4P
FX: HIS ATI Radeon HD5850 1GB (standard clock speeds)
PSU: Corsair tx850

thanks for your help :) 
a b U Graphics card
July 13, 2011 12:26:51 AM

http://www.guru3d.com/article/crysis-2-dx11-vga-and-cpu...
the 5870 performs right at 30 fps with everything maxed, so i would say you wil be in the 25fps range. If you are looking for a new card, then i would suggest either the 6xxx series or 5xx series cards - they run DX11 features such as tesselation much better than the previous generation. the 6970 or 570 would be great for the performance you are wanting. if too much, then the 6950/560Ti will make you happy as well
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July 13, 2011 12:27:12 AM

ehh i dont think it can, amd cards run it pretty badly

it probably can run it maxed when we get new catalyst drivers
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a b U Graphics card
July 13, 2011 12:28:36 AM

If you would like to do a xfire setup, go for it, i just am a fan of single powerful cards because scaling often becomes an issue with new games until they patch it. Crysis 2 scales very well from what ive seen.
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a b U Graphics card
July 13, 2011 2:06:38 AM

I dont think so either, what resolution are you playing at??
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July 13, 2011 2:07:28 AM

thanks for the help guise, just wondering whether anyone knows a place where i might get a 5850 or 5870, think i will probably go for an xfire setup?

thanks again
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a b U Graphics card
July 13, 2011 2:39:26 AM

oh, and crytek hopefully have fixed the issues with ATI card scaling on crysis 2... there were bugs that made the game unplayable.
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July 13, 2011 2:49:57 AM

embra: i think that it is 1900 by 1400
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a c 216 U Graphics card
July 13, 2011 3:35:49 AM

Do you mean 1920x1200?
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a b U Graphics card
July 13, 2011 3:44:11 AM

Or 1920x1080? Or 1440x900?
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a b U Graphics card
July 13, 2011 5:22:38 AM

1. buy a used 5850 then do xfire
2. sell your current 5850 then get a 6950/560ti
3. there are reports (at least on pc.ign.com) that ati cards are struggling with the patch. nothing a catalyst update won't (hot)fix.
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July 13, 2011 8:00:30 AM

i think that ill use option 1, i just need to find the card, any places other than ebay that anyone knows of?

Oh and my screen res is 1680 by 1050 @ 60MHz
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a b U Graphics card
July 13, 2011 10:07:00 AM

don't know whay people think its so demanding.I run everything maxed but have to put shaders on extreme and my gtx 275 destroys the game at 1680X1050,my native rez
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a b U Graphics card
July 13, 2011 1:36:07 PM

But no DX 11 (ha ha ha).

EDIT: Explaining the ha ha part, you do not max out crysis 2 since your video card can not support DX11, neither any of it's options .
At that resolution i can run it with my 5770(core 920Mhz) at max settings in dx9.
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July 13, 2011 2:43:58 PM

I'm afraid your wrong there, the 5xxx ATI/AMD series were the first cards to support dx 11. The card I bought the HIS version came with dirt two to show case this. Also I believe the expression 5 7 11 was also used in conjunction with the card as, you need a Radeon 5 series card and windows 7 to get direct x 11. At least that was the first way to get it until Nvidia released there first dx11 card.
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a c 216 U Graphics card
July 13, 2011 2:56:59 PM

mother242 said:
I'm afraid your wrong there, the 5xxx ATI/AMD series were the first cards to support dx 11. The card I bought the HIS version came with dirt two to show case this. Also I believe the expression 5 7 11 was also used in conjunction with the card as, you need a Radeon 5 series card and windows 7 to get direct x 11. At least that was the first way to get it until Nvidia released there first dx11 card.


ionut19 was talking to celpas, not you.
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a b U Graphics card
July 13, 2011 3:42:08 PM

ionut19 said:
But no DX 11 (ha ha ha).

EDIT: Explaining the ha ha part, you do not max out crysis 2 since your video card can not support DX11, neither any of it's options .
At that resolution i can run it with my 5770(core 920Mhz) at max settings in dx9.

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2011/06/29/crysis_2_dx11...
see any difference in the screenshots?Sure,the walls look a little more realistic,some sharp textures and cracks here and there BUT the performance hit?HUGE
Thats why I consider it pointless.Besides everyone plays crysis 2 JUST for multi player (at least I do) and good luck spotting those differences given its small map size and fast paced action.

I am not THAT crazy about just maxing game options.Only when there is a actual difference in image quality and is equal to the performance hit is it worth it.
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a b U Graphics card
July 13, 2011 4:05:22 PM

DX11 is very noticeable in that game, you're not going to be able to tell much from one screen shot but it makes a huge difference. It does cut your frame rate almost in half, I have dual GTX 465s and run your same resolution and I'm barely pushing over 40 FPS with DX11 and everything maxed. Turn DX11 off and I'm between 60 and 80 fps.

So no, a single 5850 won't run it at a playable level.

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a b U Graphics card
July 13, 2011 4:06:31 PM

see any difference in the screenshots?Sure,the walls look a little more realistic,some sharp textures and cracks here and there BUT the performance hit?HUGE
Thats why I consider it pointless.Besides everyone plays crysis 2 JUST for multi player (at least I do) and good luck spotting those differences given its small map size and fast paced action.


I am not THAT crazy about just maxing game options.Only when there is a actual difference in image quality and is equal to the performance hit is it worth it. said:
see any difference in the screenshots?Sure,the walls look a little more realistic,some sharp textures and cracks here and there BUT the performance hit?HUGE
Thats why I consider it pointless.Besides everyone plays crysis 2 JUST for multi player (at least I do) and good luck spotting those differences given its small map size and fast paced action.


I am not THAT crazy about just maxing game options.Only when there is a actual difference in image quality and is equal to the performance hit is it worth it.


^ this dude was expecting ray-tracing. i'd trade any performance hit for something closer to realistic anyday. realistic reflection/shadowing is something not everybody would appreciate.

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a b U Graphics card
July 13, 2011 4:10:45 PM

A still frame doesn't show what DX11 does. It makes what are normally flat surfaces have real depth and texture.
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a c 216 U Graphics card
July 13, 2011 4:26:26 PM

For a slightly better look on the differences, try here: http://www.mycrysis.com/dx11
Each image you scroll to will animate back and forth between DX11 and DX9, so you need to wait a few seconds on each picture to see the effect.

More pictures (some are the same, and more): http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/crysis-2-directx-11...

I realize that you don't have DX11 celpas, so you don't want it to look better than Dx9, but do you really have to go around telling everyone Dx11 isn't any better? You have no experience with Dx11, exactly how does your opinion help?
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a b U Graphics card
July 15, 2011 7:49:30 PM

I have an HD 5870 and also play at the 1680x1050 resolution: yes, I can max the game out with all the patches but the framerate is in the 25-30 range most of the time and sometimes even dips under 20, while occasionally (especially inside buildings) it is upwards of 50. Having motion blur enabled and this game not being about reflexes as much as, say Call of Duty, the game is usually very much playable at 25-30 fps.

Now I have good news and bad news. First the bad: your HD 5850 is, of course, slower than an HD 5870 (usually around 15%). The good news: AMD/ATI will probably release drivers that increase performance. I noticed significant increases with Crysis Warhead in the past because of newer drivers, and the jumpy framerate of Crysis 2, as well as Nvidia's deal with the developer (their cards really get higher fps in this game) point to the AMD/ATI drivers not (yet) being optimized.

P.S. Every HD 5xxx card supports DX11 (which was one of their biggest selling points), maybe not always as efficiently as HD 6xxx cards but the support is there and it is complete (so it includes tesselation). Don't believe people who tell you otherwise. Don't sell your card for an Nvidia card of comparable processing power (unless you spend a lot of time on Linux), just wait for the new drivers coming within two weeks.
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August 29, 2011 12:05:01 AM

I have a 5870 PCS+ OC, Phenom II X4 965t, 16gb ram 1333 Mhz, I can run Crysis 2 on max with Dx11, High res textures, and 1080p it gets laggy 20 - 40 fps but its playable.
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