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September 24, 2012 1:55:51 AM

Hello. Getting a motherboard and am stuck between these 2. The sabertooth is only 20$ more where I'm at and in my opinion looks way better. I was going to get the P8 for some time but recently I changed my mind seeing my case does have a clear side panel and has red Sound reactive module and the P8 is blue based. If the performance of both motherboards is the same I will get the sabertooth even though it is 20$ more and if for some reason the P8 is better I'll get it instead. (Performance comes first but if there the same, well its all about the style points)

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a c 176 V Motherboard
September 24, 2012 4:28:28 AM
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The Sbertooth is $30 more at Newegg and I don't know it the price difference is closer at other stores so you would be paying $30 more for looks. he V-Pro has built in w-fi and it accepts more variety of ram speeds. The V-Pro also has four types of video ports while the Sabertooth has two (HDMI , Display Port) So I guess you would be paying $30 for the Tuf Armor and as far as a side Window to show it off , by the time you add everything on the MB I don't know how much of it you will be able to see. Are you going with one video card or two? Any other cards going in besides the video card? If your going with looks you may want to sit back and try to figure out how much will be visible after the build is done.
There is also an interesting option in the next MB higher and that's the P8Z77 V-Pro/Thunderbolt , this MB has the new technology called Thunderbolt and while it's not prolific in Pc use right now this is the next big thing. Check it out , $10 more then the Sabertooth.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
September 24, 2012 4:43:20 AM

inzone said:
The Sbertooth is $30 more at Newegg and I don't know it the price difference is closer at other stores so you would be paying $30 more for looks. he V-Pro has built in w-fi and it accepts more variety of ram speeds. The V-Pro also has four types of video ports while the Sabertooth has two (HDMI , Display Port) So I guess you would be paying $30 for the Tuf Armor and as far as a side Window to show it off , by the time you add everything on the MB I don't know how much of it you will be able to see. Are you going with one video card or two? Any other cards going in besides the video card? If your going with looks you may want to sit back and try to figure out how much will be visible after the build is done.
There is also an interesting option in the next MB higher and that's the P8Z77 V-Pro/Thunderbolt , this MB has the new technology called Thunderbolt and while it's not prolific in Pc use right now this is the next big thing. Check it out , $10 more then the Sabertooth.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

And so is that one better than them both?
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September 24, 2012 4:49:10 AM

Also I don't know if I'll be needing the other 2 connections, And as for the RAM speed thing I'll Just give you a list of my specs and reckon you'll know if its all good?


CPU Intel Core i7-3770k 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor
CPU Cooler Corsair H70

Motherboard Asus Sabertooth Z77
Ram G.skill sniper series 16gb (2x8gb)
Storage Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB 3.5 internal
Storage Samsung 830 256gb SSD
Graphics Card 4gb Asus GTX 670 x2 (SLI)
Case Cooler Master HAF X
Power Supply Cooler Master Silent Pro M2 Series 850W
Optical Drive Asus DRW-24
Monitor Asus VG278H 120 Hz 27.0
Operating System Windows 7 Pro 64 Bit
a c 176 V Motherboard
September 24, 2012 4:50:01 AM

I would say yes. It has everything that the V-Pro has and then add the Thunderbolt tech. If you don't know what the Thunderbolt tech is then you should read up on it and see if it would be something you will be interested in.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/thunderbolt-perform...
a b V Motherboard
September 24, 2012 4:50:47 AM

Don't get the H70.

Don't get the Cooler Master PSU.

Don't get the 3770K.
September 24, 2012 4:51:29 AM

Wait so if this makes it easier, What is the best motherboard out there for 250$ or less?
September 24, 2012 4:52:16 AM

amuffin said:
Don't get the H70.

Don't get the Cooler Master PSU.

Don't get the 3770K.

Why, Why and why? :/ 
a b V Motherboard
September 24, 2012 4:57:10 AM

The H70 is old, it's outperformed by many current heatsinks for half the price.

Cooler Master PSU's are not very good, grab a Seasonic one for the same price which will be made with much better components.

Ivybridge runs much hotter than Sandybridge while offering minimal improvements. You can get a 2600K that will do everything the 3770K can do for a bit cheaper.
a c 176 V Motherboard
September 24, 2012 4:58:34 AM

After looking at your list I see that your going with two video cards and that's what I was referring to when I said about the MB being covered up plus your going with the HAF-X case which has a small side window. There is a 200mm fan mounted in the side panel and it pretty much takes up a good amount of the side panel leaving a small window. I have the same case and I ended cutting that fan out and putting a full size pane of plexi in the side so it opened up the whole side. It's a small picture but the picture to the left under my user name is my case.
September 24, 2012 5:01:58 AM

Someone said that coolermaster PSUs are not very good but that specific one is, What CPU cooler do you suppose I change to? And I'll probably go with the thunderbolt
a c 86 V Motherboard
September 24, 2012 5:05:05 AM

xHALORDx said:
Someone said that coolermaster PSUs are not very good but that specific one is, What CPU cooler do you suppose I change to? And I'll probably go with the thunderbolt
PU Cooler:THERMALRIGHT SILVER ARROW DUAL14CM ROUND FAN HEATSINK
http://pcpartpicker.com/mr/ncixus/thermalright-cpu-cool...

CPU Cooler:Noctua 6 Dual Heatpipe with 140mm/120mm Dual SSO Bearing Fans CPU Cooler NH-D14 - Retail
http://pcpartpicker.com/mr/amazon/noctua-cpu-cooler-nhd...

:
PHANTEKS PH-TC14PE_BL 5 x?8mm Dual Heat-Pipes Dual 140mm Premium Fans and Quiet CPU Cooler with Patented P.A.T.S Coating
by Phanteks
http://www.amazon.com/PHANTEKS-PH-TC14PE_BL-Heat-Pipes-... COMES IN RED AND ORANGE TO

a b V Motherboard
September 24, 2012 5:06:24 AM

xHALORDx said:
Someone said that coolermaster PSUs are not very good but that specific one is, What CPU cooler do you suppose I change to? And I'll probably go with the thunderbolt

Do you have any Thunderbolt devices?

The silent pro series is the only "reasonable" line up, otherwise many other PSU's are much better at the same price point. For the CPU cooler, a Noctua NH-D14 is the best choice.
September 24, 2012 5:10:36 AM

Cooler wise NH-D14 and Phantek PH-TC14PE largely ties on reviews, If Brown & Dark Brown is your favorite color go for the D14, else you can get Blue/Red/Black/White & Sivlver/Orange Phanteks and not lose one bit in cooling and with PWN adaptor on Phantek it is almost as quiet as well.

Silverarrow is a strong contender but I won't recommend it because it blocks the first PCI-E slot on a lot of motherboards.

I'd recommend the ASUS P8Z77-V or V-Pro(Pro is more expensive but you get a little better extreme OC and 1 more fan header),Sabertooth is all about paying for TUF Armor & Noisy small fan I doubt you really prefer that. Grab a Thunderbolt board if you really forsee yourself using it(read up on that technology).

I personally would just wait for the Haswell & Z87 Chipset comes out with native Thunderbolt header & support but if you won't upgrade again that soon get the TB now if you think you need it.

PSU wise get Corsair or Seasonic, these have are high quality(most Corsair are actually made by Seasonic) and great customer support.

a c 86 V Motherboard
September 24, 2012 5:14:20 AM

sherlockwing said:
Cooler wise NH-D14 and Phantek PH-TC14PE largely ties on reviews, If Brown & Dark Brown is your favorite color go for the D14, else you can get Blue/Red/Black/White & Sivlver/Orange Phanteks and not lose one bit in cooling and with PWN adaptor on Phantek it is almost as quiet as well.

Silverarrow is a strong contender but I won't recommend it because it blocks the first PCI-E slot on a lot of motherboards.
Agree for the most part but i mean if hes going to get such a dope motherboard as we are talking about it's either one of those three heatsinks or a rasa kit otherwise waste of money buying a board like that imo
September 24, 2012 5:21:00 AM

Single 120 mm radiator heat sink Close loop water can't really compete with high-end air, You have to go 240mm+ radiator heatsink solution to get an slight edge over D14/14PE at a substantial price premium and those 240mm radiator aren't that easy to mount(while most mainstream cases now offer plenty of clearance for D14/14PE).

Top End Air Cooler are enough to get you a comfortable 4.6-4.7 Ghz OC on an i5-3570K, you don't really gain any OC thermal room with a H100/Thermaltake Water Extreme.

OCCT temp with a 4.6Ghz i5-3570K :



Didn't show D-14 but you can estimate its performance with 14PE as they are about equal in all reviews.
September 24, 2012 5:21:41 AM

So is the Antec KUHLER H2O 920 better than a noctua NH-D14 though? I am going to some mild overclocking andas for the MOBO I don't think I'm using any thunderbolt devices, Am I?
a b V Motherboard
September 24, 2012 5:22:43 AM

The Kuhler 920 on Extreme is LOUD!
September 24, 2012 5:23:19 AM

Ok so Noctua it is
September 24, 2012 5:24:43 AM

For the setup above is it really necessary to get a thunderbolt? I've still got my heart set on that sabortooth because I dont think I'll be needing the 2 other types of connections and stuff.
September 24, 2012 5:25:18 AM

xHALORDx said:
So is the Antec KUHLER H2O 920 better than a noctua NH-D14 though? I am going to some mild overclocking andas for the MOBO I don't think I'm using any thunderbolt devices, Am I?



Mild overclocking=4.2Ghz on an Ivy =grab a $35 Hyper 212 Evo and you will be fine.

Extreme overclocking(not DICE or LN2)= 4.7-4.8 Ghz = Get D14/14PE and you will be doing fine, as far as 920 vs D14(or 14PE) you can estimate by just looking up top(14PE=D14 in cooling).

Thunderbolt everyone claim is the next big thing but right now I don't see it as a must-have feature as the cable is still going to cost you an arm and a leg with no realistic benefit yet. I'd wait for that technology to get more mainstream and featured on a Intel Chipset before getting it.

In short:

Get P8Z77-V or V-Pro
Get NH-D14 or PH-TC14PE(and low profile ram to go with them)
Get i5-3570K or i7-3770K(only get 3770K if you are doing 100000 different things while gaming or trans-coding videos a lot)
Get a 80 Plus PSU in the 650W-750W range(depend on if you use two video card or not) from Seasonic or Corsair.
September 24, 2012 5:31:06 AM

sherlockwing said:
Mild overclocking=4.2Ghz on an Ivy =grab a $35 Hyper 212 Evo and you will be fine.

Extreme overclocking(not DICE or LN2)= 4.7-4.8 Ghz = Get D14/14PE and you will be doing fine, as far as 920 vs D14(or 14PE) you can estimate by just looking up top(14PE=D14 in cooling).

Thunderbolt everyone claim is the next big thing but right now I don't see it as a must-have feature as the cable is still going to cost you an arm and a leg. I'd wait for that technology to get more mainstream and featured on a Intel Chipset before getting it.

In short:

Get P8Z77-V or V-Pro
Get NH-D14 or PH-TC14PE(and low profile ram to go with them)
Get i5-3570K or i7-3770K(only get 3770K if you are doing 100000 different things while gaming or trans-coding videos a lot)
Get a 80 Plus PSU in the 650W-750W range(depend on if you use two video card or not) from Seasonic or Corsair.

Thanks mate, Although I must ask why the V-pro of sabortooth because I dont thing I will need the 1 or 2 things it has to offer, Ill get the NH-d14 and I'll get the 3770k
September 24, 2012 5:34:42 AM

xHALORDx said:
Thanks mate, Although I must ask why the V-pro of sabortooth because I dont thing I will need the 1 or 2 things it has to offer, Ill get the NH-d14 and I'll get the 3770k



V-Pro of the Sabertooh???

You mean why V-Pro over Sabertooth:

You should choose the V-Pro over Sabertooth because Saber offer nothing except looks tough and cost you more money, it have a longer warranty and should last longer but by the time V-pro's 3 year warranty expires you'd need a new board for your new CPU anyway.
a c 86 V Motherboard
September 24, 2012 5:35:14 AM

xHALORDx said:
For the setup above is it really necessary to get a thunderbolt? I've still got my heart set on that sabortooth because I dont think I'll be needing the 2 other types of connections and stuff.
Sabertooth it's horrible price for it's performance it's for looks and 5 year warranty people buy it i think either that or their retarded

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a c 86 V Motherboard
September 24, 2012 5:36:43 AM

lol i double posted one of those bench marks my bad
September 24, 2012 5:38:10 AM

sherlockwing said:
V-Pro of the Sabertooh???

You mean why V-Pro over Sabertooth:

You should choose the V-Pro over Sabertooth because Saber offer nothing except looks and cost you more money, it have a longer warranty and should last longer but by the time V-pro's 3 year warranty expires you'd need a new board for your new CPU anyway.

Yeah sorry thats what I ment, And I think paying more for better looks is pretty good, seeing it's only 30$ more I think it's worth it seeing as I'm about to spend 3.3k to make my games look better.
September 24, 2012 5:41:40 AM

With that PSU I picked is it really worth an extra 70$ more and 90 watts less just because of the brand?
a b V Motherboard
September 24, 2012 5:44:17 AM

Because it's made by Seasonic!
September 24, 2012 5:44:35 AM

There we go: (Didn't change the MOBO yet till we all agree on something)

CPU Intel Core i7-3770k 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor 340 http://www.mwave.com.au/sku-19010244-Intel_Core_i7_3770...

CPU Cooler Noctua NH-D14
85 http://www.mwave.com.au/sku-18020532-Noctua_NH_D14_CPU_...

Motherboard Asus Sabertooth Z77 255 http://www.mwave.com.au/sku-28023700-ASUS_Sabertooth_Z7...

Ram G.skill sniper series 16gb (2x8gb) 98 http://www.mwave.com.au/sku-37141073-GSkill_Sniper_16GB...

Storage Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB 3.5 internal 115 http://www.mwave.com.au/sku-22040394-Western_Digital_WD...

Storage Samsung 830 256gb SSD 231 http://www.mwave.com.au/sku-22140691-Samsung_830_Series...

Graphics Card 4gb Asus GTX 670 (x2 SLI) 550 (ea)
1100(both) http://www.centrecom.com.au/catalog/gtx670-4gd5-asus-nv...

Case Cooler Master HAF X 189 http://www.mwave.com.au/sku-16011324-Cooler_Master_HAF_...

Power Supply Seasonic X-Series 760W Power Supply 230 http://www.mwave.com.au/sku-34040658-Seasonic_X_Series_...

Optical Drive Asus DRW-24 24 http://www.mwave.com.au/sku-17040392-ASUS_DRW_24B5ST_24...

Monitor Asus VG278H 120 Hz 27.0 670 http://www.wireless1.com.au/ASUS-VG278H-27IN-LCD-LED-3D...

Operating System Windows 7 Pro 64 Bit 140 http://www.mwave.com.au/sku-39090359-Microsoft_Windows_...
September 24, 2012 5:45:31 AM

xHALORDx said:
With that PSU I picked is it really worth an extra 70$ more and 90 watts less just because of the brand?


Cooler Master is like the worst PSU brand around, just google Cooler Master PSU and you will find they tell tons of lies and sell PSU that are way less efficient than they claim.

Seasonic on the other hand is one of the premiere brands, many other PSU brands like Corsair sell OEM Seasonic PSUs as their own brand proves just how good they are.

a 760W PSU is more than enough for a SLI/Crossfire, 850W is overkill.

Wait Wait Wait, ASUS VG278H is old news(yeah I know I own one), unless you can't get the new 144Hz VG278HE downunder I wouldn't consider the H(It is still solid but no longer top of the line).
a b V Motherboard
September 24, 2012 5:48:06 AM

sherlockwing said:
Cooler Master is like the worst PSU brand around, just google Cooler Master PSU and you will find they tell tons of lies and sell PSU that are way less efficient than they claim.

Seasonic on the other hand is one of the premiere brands, many other PSU makers like Corsair sell OEM Seasonic PSUs as their own brand proves just how good they are.

Fixed.
September 24, 2012 5:50:02 AM

sherlockwing said:
Cooler Master is like the worst PSU brand around, just google Cooler Master PSU and you will find they tell tons of lies and sell PSU that are way less efficient than they claim.

Seasonic on the other hand is one of the premiere brands, many other PSU makers like Corsair sell OEM Seasonic PSUs as their own brand proves just how good they are.

a 760W PSU is more than enough for a SLI/Crossfire, 850W is overkill.

Ok, back to the MOBO, Will I find any differences with performances between a P8z77-vpro and a sabertooth and will there be any functions I would miss out on. If the 2 are the same performance and have the same connections for what I'm going to be using them for then I'm going by the next best thing and thats looks, (followed by price)
a c 86 V Motherboard
September 24, 2012 5:51:25 AM

Mate it's your money your build if you think the looks and the 5 year warranty are worth the extra cost for the satertooth that's fine and your choice we can only tell you performance wise the sabertooth is way over priced as long as your aware of that and still don't care then by all means get the sabertooth
September 24, 2012 5:51:44 AM

sherlockwing said:
Cooler Master is like the worst PSU brand around, just google Cooler Master PSU and you will find they tell tons of lies and sell PSU that are way less efficient than they claim.

Seasonic on the other hand is one of the premiere brands, many other PSU brands like Corsair sell OEM Seasonic PSUs as their own brand proves just how good they are.

a 760W PSU is more than enough for a SLI/Crossfire, 850W is overkill.

Wait Wait Wait, ASUS VG278H is old news(yeah I know I own one), unless you can't get the new 144Hz VG278HE downunder I wouldn't consider the H(It is still solid but no longer top of the line).

Is there any difference between the H and HE besides the refresh rate?
September 24, 2012 5:52:23 AM

bigcyco1 said:
Mate it's your money your build if you think the looks and the 5 year warranty are worth the extra cost for the satertooth that's fine and your choice we can only tell you performance wise the sabertooth is way over priced as long as your aware of that and still don't care then by all means get the sabertooth

So they are the same performance wise?
September 24, 2012 5:53:35 AM

Why is the HE cheaper? Does it not come with the 3D kit?
a c 86 V Motherboard
September 24, 2012 5:57:25 AM

xHALORDx said:
So they are the same performance wise?

ASUS P8Z77-V PRO and sabertooth yes same performance within margin of error anyway can't say one is better then the other price wise is why the ASUS P8Z77-V PRO is better it's bang for your buck!
September 24, 2012 5:58:45 AM

bigcyco1 said:
ASUS P8Z77-V PRO and sabertooth yes same performance within margin of error anyway can't say one is better then the other i would need to see allot of proof to bite on that :lol: 

ok I'll go with saber
a c 86 V Motherboard
September 24, 2012 6:01:40 AM

xHALORDx said:
ok I'll go with saber

this is the one i mean is same performance mobo:ASUS P8Z77-V PRO LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... just don't want you to be confused you realize i meant that one correct?
September 24, 2012 6:03:41 AM

Cuz I don't think I have any thunderbolt devices, I mean wtf even is a thunderbolt device?
a c 86 V Motherboard
September 24, 2012 6:04:56 AM

inzone said:
The Sbertooth is $30 more at Newegg and I don't know it the price difference is closer at other stores so you would be paying $30 more for looks. he V-Pro has built in w-fi and it accepts more variety of ram speeds. The V-Pro also has four types of video ports while the Sabertooth has two (HDMI , Display Port) So I guess you would be paying $30 for the Tuf Armor and as far as a side Window to show it off , by the time you add everything on the MB I don't know how much of it you will be able to see. Are you going with one video card or two? Any other cards going in besides the video card? If your going with looks you may want to sit back and try to figure out how much will be visible after the build is done.
There is also an interesting option in the next MB higher and that's the P8Z77 V-Pro/Thunderbolt , this MB has the new technology called Thunderbolt and while it's not prolific in Pc use right now this is the next big thing. Check it out , $10 more then the Sabertooth.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
+1 this is right on the money about the sabertooth vs the V-Pro
!