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September 27, 2012 9:01:59 AM

Hello peeps,

Today i'm gonna buy my new system... but i still need a good set of memory.

I had a earlier post wit what i thought was a good memory ... turned out that in my half drunk state i picked a memory that was actually kinda slow.
I'm looking for a 16GB RAM 2 Module 1600kit for very high end gaming, game modding and multitasking.
I found these 2:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Could you guys tell me what the big difference is between the 2? pro's and Con's kinda thing.

Thanks a lot in advance

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a c 81 } Memory
September 27, 2012 12:13:33 PM

The specs are the same, but the Corsair modules look better. Unless you bought memory slower than DDR3 1333, upgrading to DDR3 1600 may not provide much of a performance improvement.
September 27, 2012 12:15:04 PM

Thats it ? It looks better ?
Not somethig to do with cooling or something ?
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a c 81 } Memory
September 27, 2012 12:30:02 PM

Read the Corsair specs. There are people willing to pay a premium for these modules. They should look really nice in a case with a side window.
September 27, 2012 12:38:02 PM

I should look good... but a 40 euro difference here isn't nothing.
Do you maybe know a memory set thats even better ? Or is this about as fast as it gets ?
a c 347 } Memory
September 27, 2012 1:01:52 PM

Are you going for looks or performance? There's nothing wrong with wanting both, but 4GB/stick can offer greater stability at higher frequencies. However, much beyond DDR3-1600 will yield very little performance gains and frankly add a concern of stability (i.e. errors). Kits with 8GB/stick are fine but are much harder on the CPU and harder to keep stable.

To properly 'match' I'd (we'd) need to know your CPU, MOBO and what 'multitasking' needs you have in mind?
September 27, 2012 1:15:20 PM

Here is the list of my system:

Graphics card: EVGA GTX690
CPU: i7 3770K
Chassis: Cooler Master HAF XM windowed
MOBO: Maximus V Formula
Blu ray combo: LGCH10LS28 and a burner Pioneer BDR-207DBK
HDD: WD2003FAEX 2TB
CPU Cooling: Noctua NH-D14
Powersupply: Corsair HX750 or HX1050

and the multitasking will be simple things from multiple video's to big file transfers and downloading.
I also want to have room for the future.

I want to use 8GB sticks so that i can add 2 more later, as i am also planning on adding a second GTX690 in the future.


PS: you guys think i should go with the HX750 or 1050 power
a c 347 } Memory
September 27, 2012 2:26:10 PM

First, if you're looking for e.g. 3xHD monitors which is the only reason I can surmise for SLI GTX 690 then by far don't and instead look at a PLX Z77 or LGA 2011 MOBO with 4-WAY SLI and use the GTX 680 4GB cards. The GTX 690 is limited to 2GB, it's not 4GB, it's 2GB per GPU core or 2GB/core + 2GB/core internally SLI; simular to GTX 680 2GB in SLI. In those higher resolutions you're going to run into vRAM bottleneck and the 4GB will avoid that 'wall' - yep wall.

Anything above DDR3-1600 and 8GB~16GB will offer no discernible advantages in gaming, downloading, etc. If you use e.g. Adobe Premiere or similar rendering applications then yeah more is better or for a RAM Drive.

Therefore, the following:
MOBO's:
LGA 1155:
$380 ASUS Maximus V Extreme - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
or
LGA 2011:
$430 ASUS Rampage IV Extreme - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
or
$370 ASUS Rampage IV Formula (decent sound) - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
or
$390 MSI Big Bang-XPower II - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

RAM:
32GB 4x8GB:
$180 Mushkin Enhanced Blackline 32GB (4 x 8GB ; 9-9-9-24 @ 1.50v) DDR3 1600 Model 994069 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$160 G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 32GB (4 x 8GB ; 10-10-10-30 @ 1.50v) DDR3 1600 Model F3-12800CL10Q-32GBXL - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

/above better choice
$240 CORSAIR Dominator Platinum 32GB (4 x 8GB ; 9-9-9-24 @ 1.50v) DDR3 1600 Model CMD32GX3M4A1600C9
$390 CORSAIR DOMINATOR GT 32GB (4 x 8GB ; 9-10-9-27 @ 1.50v) DDR3 1866 Model CMT32GX3M4X1866C9 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

16GB 4x4GB:
$80 Mushkin Enhanced Blackline 16GB (4 x 4GB ; 9-9-9-24 @ 1.50v) DDR3 1600 Model 993995 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$80 G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 16GB (4 x 4GB ; 9-9-9-24 @ 1.50v) DDR3 1600 Model F3-12800CL9Q-16GBXL - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$110 Mushkin Enhanced Blackline 16GB (4 x 4GB ; 8-8-8-24 @ 1.50v) DDR3 1600 Model 994046 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

/above better choice
$130 Mushkin Enhanced Redline 16GB (4 x 4GB ; 9-11-10-28 @ 1.65v) DDR3 2133 Model 993997 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$230 CORSAIR DOMINATOR GT 16GB (4 x 4GB ; 9-11-10-27 @ 1.50v) DDR3 2133 Model CMT16GX3M4X2133C9 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
September 27, 2012 2:40:07 PM

I see...

The GTX 680 4GB does sound better then and it seems like its overall faster too.
But a 4-way SLI might be really good in benchmarks but in gaming it's more of a bother i've heard as games don't support this.
Then a 2 or maybe 3-way SLI GTX680 would still faster. But if the GTX680 is that much better why is there a 300 euro difference with the gtx690.
i've also looked at the Maximus V Extreem, but it's kinda overkill and the Formula has almost all the same features (exept for the extreem parts) and after long consideration i decided to go for the formula.

You would help me out a great deal if you could list the pro's and con's to choosing the GTX690 2 times, or the GTX680 4GB 2 times.
a c 347 } Memory
September 27, 2012 2:51:53 PM

That (above) or (2) two ASUS Mars III if you want the 4GB/core ; see - http://rog.asus.com/116862012/graphics-cards-2/first-lo...

All of this, GPU's and MOBO's, entirely depends on the resolution, use and games.

Q - How many monitors?
Q - What resolution?
Q - Are you considering 3D Vision?
a b } Memory
September 27, 2012 2:54:10 PM

Check out Crucial website you might find it less expensive. Use the memory tool and show all compatible memory.
September 27, 2012 3:09:14 PM

That one looks awesome but it's not been released yet, it will be limited edition and insanely expensive :p 

i'm currently using two 24inch monitors both 1920x1080. After i get some more money i'm gonna be looking for a nice big 2560x1440 screen (or higher by that time) and yes i'm also considering 3d vision.

I saw this one http://www.expertreviews.co.uk/tvs/1290409/lg-d2500n-pn...
looks nice but for a 25inch way to pricey and its not a 2560 x 1440 resolution.

As for games... all high end offcourse but also with even higher mods. if i run skyrim now with all the High ress mods my computer would die instantly :p 
and in the future only better games will come.

I also wanna pick up again on modding my self.
a c 347 } Memory
September 27, 2012 4:31:01 PM

I would use a 2-3 WAY GTX 680 4GB for single '2560 x 1600' depending on how picky you are with details and settings; higher e.g. >4xMSAA will fill 2GB of vRAM. I assume Skyrim isn't your only game. As far as a monitor for 3D Vision, to date all use 120~144Hz TN panels at 1920x1080 (HD) resolutions, and you only want those with 'LightBoost' ; see - http://www.nvidia.com/object/3d-vision-system-requireme...

In 3xHD (2D or 3D) 3-4 WAY GTX 680 4GB, 3D Vision 1920 x 1080 using a single monitor Single (1)-2 WAY GTX 680 2GB or 4GB. Remember in 3D you lose 30%~40% frame rates, and use more vRAM and as the resolutions go up (MP) 2GB of vRAM, depending on the games, can and will exceed 2GB vRAM.

My best advice is to 'try before you buy' 3D Vision.

Skyrim '2560 x 1600':
September 27, 2012 4:36:09 PM

okee
but how does a 2-3 way sli GTX680 stand agains a 2-3 way GTX690?
a c 347 } Memory
September 27, 2012 4:42:11 PM

You can only use 4 GPU cores in SLI or CF, so the current max is (examples):
4-WAY GTX 680 4GB ; 4 cores
2-WAY GTX 690 2GB+2GB ; 4 cores

4-WAY GTX 680 4GB = 2-WAY ASUS Mars III > 2-WAY GTX 690
September 27, 2012 5:58:42 PM

i've been reading up on your wish wish words.
and your right.
in the long run a 680 4GB is better, but its not faster.
only the vRAM is higher witch makes it futureproof ... sort off...

The Maximus V formula with a i7 3770K will work the same as the Maximus V extreme so thats not on issue.

The GTX680 4GB however is not avaliable yet in the store here so if it's there saterday i'll buy that one.
If its not than i'll buy a 690.


Than one more question about that... this is really a noob question but i simply forgot...
Can i do a 3way SLI with for example one GTX690 and two GTX680 4GB? or with two 680's and one 690?
September 27, 2012 6:01:02 PM

i mean wise wise.. not wish :p 
a c 347 } Memory
September 27, 2012 6:41:47 PM

Hmm...2GB vs 4GB again entirely depends on your Resolution + Details, and yep if you hit the vRAM limits then your frame rates easily tanks and you'll hit single digits even on 4-WAY GTX 2GB or 2-WAY GTX 690's. The tipping point is '2560 x 1600' (4.1MP) resolution and 2GB or 4GB can be argued either way, that's way I said it depends on your Details; for e.g. 8xMSAA plus other detail settings then I'd go the 4GB route and less details the 2GB route.

What generally happens is folks with '2560 x 1600' (4.1MP) resolution or higher simply drop their details until vRAM isn't an issue. We have a 3D Vision setup running 3-WAY GTX 680 4GB in 3xHD and especially in 3D it takes very little efforts to break 2GB.

More Resolution + More Details = More vRAM ; the the $2,000 question is when not if.

Now if you're running 5760 x 1080 then you're just asking for a vRAM bottleneck @ 2GB; example - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0-xcxAvu54&feature=play...

My suggestions:
1920x1080 = 2GB
2560x1600 = 2GB or 4GB
5760x1080 = 4GB
September 27, 2012 6:52:53 PM

thank you very very much for the information.

I'm gonna call the store tomorrwo and ask when they'll have the gtx680 4GB.
Depending on how long it will take i'll make my choice. if it's here fast i'll buy the 680.

but on the SLI part.. a GTX680 as main and 2 (or 1) GTX690.. is that possible?
a c 347 } Memory
September 27, 2012 7:01:50 PM

ASarc said:
but on the SLI part.. a GTX680 as main and 2 (or 1) GTX690.. is that possible?

No, you cannot SLI a GTX 680 (short of some hacked/modded nVidia driver) and GTX 690, and if you could:

GTX 680 4GB
GTX 690 2GB + 2GB
===============
GTX XXX 2GB of vRAM ; lowest wins and sets the maximum limit not to mention the 4-core limit, and using a GTX 680 for PhysX is insane (total and absolute waste).
September 27, 2012 7:08:08 PM

Then i know all i need to know.

Thank you very much.
your a lifesavings saver :p 
a c 347 } Memory
September 27, 2012 7:09:28 PM

Good Luck & Enjoy! :) 
!