Updated PC Build-Compatible?

CPU: AMD FX-8150 (Waiting till it's buyable)

Graphics: Palit NE5X5600HD02F GeForce GTX 560 (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814261108

RAM: G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-8GBRL - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820231314

Motherboard: GIGABYTE GA-990FXA-UD3 AM3+ AMD 990FX SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] ivjval3w4x

Hard Drive: SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 0mdpo4u8wz

DVD Burner: ASUS 24X DVD Burner - Bulk 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM Black SATA Model DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS - OEM - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6827135204

PSU: (POSSIBLY) Rosewill LIGHTNING Series LIGHTNING-800 800W Continuous @50°C,80 PLUS GOLD Certified,Pipe-rock Modular Design,Single +12V Rail,ATX12V v2.3/EPS12V v2.92,SLI Ready,CrossFire Ready,Active- PFC ,Fan LED color switch Power Supply - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817182238

Case: Rosewill ARMOR Gaming ATX Mid Tower Computer Case ,Full mesh design front bezel, comes with Six Fans-1x Front 120mm Fan, 2x Top 120mm Fan, 1x Rear 120mm Fan, 1x 80mm Fan on motherboard tray, 1x Side 200mm Fan, option Fan-1x Bottom 120mm Fan - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811147047

OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit - OEM - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6832116986 (oh and if someone could tell me the difference between professional and home premium, that'd be great!)

Wi-fi Adapter: ASUS PCE-N13 Wireless Adapter IEEE 802.11b/g/n PCI Express 150/300Mbps Transfer/Receive Rate 64-bit/128-bit WEP, TKIP, and AES WI-Fi alliance WPA, WPA2 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6833320048

Also, if you have any other parts in mind, I would prefer it to be on Newegg.

Message edited by MIK_1st on 09-20-2011 at 02:29:27 AM

Reply to MIK_1st

It looks to be compatible, but terribly inadvisable as well. What are you going to use it for?

Reply to cuecuemore

Mostly gaming, next to that internet browsing, schoolwork, and finally movies.

Reply to MIK_1st

EDIT: Changing the RAM down to 8GB.

Message quoted 1 times

Reply to MIK_1st

MIK_1st wrote :

EDIT: Changing the RAM down to 8GB.

Good choice, with the money saved, maybe you can just get an i5-2500K and OC it to 4.0GHz+ with an after-market cooler.

Message quoted 2 times

Reply to Zenthar

Your RAM is still terribly underpowered. One of the surefire advantages of building your own over getting an OEM is good (and fast) RAM. I like the look of these:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820231445

The Radeon 8570 won't be out for 18 months, did you mean 6570?

Grab the X4 955 and save yourself $50

Here's the cheapest quality SLI mobo I could find:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813128510

Message quoted 1 times

Reply to cuecuemore

Zenthar wrote :

Good choice, with the money saved, maybe you can just get an i5-2500K and OC it to 4.0GHz+ with an after-market cooler.

I'm no computer expert, but isn't the AMD CPU faster? I read about the OC speed on Amazon (w/out an after-market cooler) and it was the same as the AMD CPU (which is 3.7Ghz not OC'd). People have been OC'ing the AMD CPU to 4.4Ghz without getting an after-market cooler.

Reply to MIK_1st

Zenthar wrote :

Good choice, with the money saved, maybe you can just get an i5-2500K and OC it to 4.0GHz+ with an after-market cooler.

I'm no computer expert, but isn't the AMD CPU faster? I read about the OC speed on Amazon (w/out an after-market cooler) and it was the same as the AMD CPU (which is 3.7Ghz not OC'd). People have been OC'ing the AMD CPU to 4.4Ghz without getting an after-market cooler.

Message quoted 1 times

Reply to MIK_1st

cuecuemore wrote :

Your RAM is still terribly underpowered. One of the surefire advantages of building your own over getting an OEM is good (and fast) RAM. I like the look of these:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820231445

The Radeon 8570 won't be out for 18 months, did you mean 6570?

Grab the X4 955 and save yourself $50

Here's the cheapest quality SLI mobo I could find:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813128510

Oops, meant the 6870! I just couldn't remember what the name was, sorry!

Reply to MIK_1st

The 2500k clocked at 3.3GHz is considerably faster than the X4 980 at any speed.

Message quoted 1 times

Reply to cuecuemore

cuecuemore wrote :

The 2500k clocked at 3.3GHz is considerably faster than the X4 980 at any speed.

Hm... well I think I'd rather stick with the CPU I have at the moment. Just my personal choice.

Reply to MIK_1st

MIK_1st wrote :

I'm no computer expert, but isn't the AMD CPU faster? I read about the OC speed on Amazon (w/out an after-market cooler) and it was the same as the AMD CPU (which is 3.7Ghz not OC'd). People have been OC'ing the AMD CPU to 4.4Ghz without getting an after-market cooler.

Right now, clock for clock the Intel Sandy Bridge (like the i5-2500K) is faster (a 3.0 GHZ Intel would feel faster than a 3.0Ghz AMD). That said, yes the AMD stock speed of 3.7 GHz is faster than Intel I5-2500K's 3.3GHz, but the later would still match it in final performance. Moreover, the i5-2500K can easily reach 4GHz (with tools provided my the motherboard manufacturers themselves), can be pushed to 4.5GHz rather easily manually in the BIOS (took no more than 5 min. for me) and with some effort, people have been pushing it to 5GHz (with lots of time and good air coolers).

Message quoted 1 times

Reply to Zenthar

Zenthar wrote :

Right now, clock for clock the Intel Sandy Bridge (like the i5-2500K) is faster (a 3.0 GHZ Intel would feel faster than a 3.0Ghz AMD). That said, yes the AMD stock speed of 3.7 GHz is faster than Intel I5-2500K's 3.3GHz, but the later would still match it in final performance. Moreover, the i5-2500K can easily reach 4GHz (with tools provided my the motherboard manufacturers themselves), can be pushed to 4.5GHz rather easily manually in the BIOS (took no more than 5 min. for me) and with some effort, people have been pushing it to 5GHz (with lots of time and good air coolers).

Oh >_>. Well, could you link me to the parts required for an Intel build, and the parts to OC it with ease? I don't know much about what kind of motherboard and RAM is required for it. If the prices are low enough on Black Friday, I might switch over to that CPU.

Reply to MIK_1st

CPU: Intel i5-2500K
MB: Gigabyte Z68X-UD3P

All other parts should work just fine. If you want 3rd party cooler to OC decently, the Hyper 212 is usually the one recommended. although I prefer the (pricier) Xigmatek coolers (SDT-1283 + ACK-I5361).

Message quoted 1 times

Reply to Zenthar

The Nvidia 560 is basically very comparable to the AMD 6870. I personally would get the Phenom II 965 and just slightly overclock to same specs as your 980. Its an unlocked "Black Edition" so it will easily overclock. A bus overclock from 200 to 220-230 would be ideal and just leave the multiplier at default. You'll be overclocking your northbridge as well which is quite beneficial up to 2200-2400Mhz. Remember to drop hypertransport to 9x multi or u may get problems. They are practically the same CPU's anyways, just clocked different from factory. The 6-core 1090T or 1100T are very attractive options and closely priced. I would truly wait just a bit longer for the AMD Bulldozer release, as your motherboard is compatible.

Message quoted 1 times

Reply to jonnycatz1990

jonnycatz1990 wrote :

The Nvidia 560 is basically very comparable to the AMD 6870. I personally would get the Phenom II 965 and just slightly overclock to same specs as your 980. Its an unlocked "Black Edition" so it will easily overclock. A bus overclock from 200 to 220-230 would be ideal and just leave the multiplier at default. You'll be overclocking your northbridge as well which is quite beneficial up to 2200-2400Mhz. Remember to drop hypertransport to 9x multi or u may get problems. They are practically the same CPU's anyways, just clocked different from factory. The 6-core 1090T or 1100T are very attractive options and closely priced. I would truly wait just a bit longer for the AMD Bulldozer release, as your motherboard is compatible.

Yes, I was considering the Bulldozer when it came out. It's just that it might go a bit higher than my budget is.

Reply to MIK_1st

Zenthar wrote :

CPU: Intel i5-2500K
MB: Gigabyte Z68X-UD3P

All other parts should work just fine. If you want 3rd party cooler to OC decently, the Hyper 212 is usually the one recommended. although I prefer the (pricier) Xigmatek coolers (SDT-1283 + ACK-I5361).

Ok, thanks. But if I decide to NOT overclock, would the AMD be faster?

Message quoted 1 times

Reply to MIK_1st

MIK_1st wrote :

Ok, thanks. But if I decide to NOT overclock, would the AMD be faster?

Based on this chart, yes, even at stock speeds the i5-2500K (3.3Ghz) is faster than even the X4 9800 (3.7 GHz).

Reply to Zenthar

If you really don't want to OC (which I find would be a shame on SB given how easy it is to do) and want to save money, you could consider getting something like an i5-2300 or an i5-2400 and an H67/H61 motherboard; yes even those perform as well or better than the X4 980. But you have to understand that you completely forfeit OC with this choice (like in zero/nada/nil, not "not as good" ).

Message quoted 1 times

Reply to Zenthar

Zenthar wrote :

If you really don't want to OC (which I find would be a shame on SB given how easy it is to do) and want to save money, you could consider getting something like an i5-2300 or an i5-2400 and an H67/H61 motherboard; yes even those perform as well or better than the X4 980. But you have to understand that you completely forfeit OC with this choice (like in zero/nada/nil, not "not as good" ).

Wow, I geuss Intel really is as good as they say. I just don't understand how Intel is faster than the AMD one... Oh well, I'll just go with it I geuss. If I come up with the money by the time I buy my parts, I'll DEFINETLY go with Intel!

Reply to MIK_1st

One thing to understand about the "speed" of a processor when expressed in Mhz or Ghz (applies to RAM also BTW) is that is is barely the "electrical frequency"; the true performance of a CPU lies in the number or operations it can do per seconds (ex: MFLOPS = 1000 FLoating Operations Per Seconds). For example, if a CPU runs at 3Ghz and each operation takes 10 cycles to complete, you get 300 operations/seconds, but take another processor running at 2Ghz that takes only 5 cycles per operations and it get 400 operations per second which would feel much faster.

As you might guess, it isn't actually THAT simple, a CPU supports hundreds (if not more, you can always count them here) and each can take a different amount of cycles to complete depending on the architecture of the CPU (which can vary from one generation to another, not just the brand, the old Intel Pentium 4 used to be one of the worst to the point where they basically went back to something closer to Pentium 3 when they created the Core processors). Other factors can also influence the performance such as cache and how it is managed.

For RAM it is a bit more simple as the number of cycles it takes to complete an operation is the CAS rating.

Reply to Zenthar

EDIT: After getting some advice, I'm changing the PSU to a different brand as well as to 650W

Reply to MIK_1st

Can anyone recommend decent speakers? Just a pair that will last me a while, and has good enough sound quality.

Reply to MIK_1st

EDIT: Changing the PSU and the Case

Reply to MIK_1st

EDIT: Changing the CPU, Motherboard, and RAM Brand

Reply to MIK_1st

Not sure exactly where you are going but the Giga-Byte GA-990FXA-UD3 AM3+ 990FX might help you get there.

As will some DDR3 1866!

Message quoted 1 times

Reply to Wisecracker

Wisecracker wrote :

Not sure exactly where you are going but the Giga-Byte GA-990FXA-UD3 AM3+ 990FX might help you get there.

As will some DDR3 1866!

Ok, thanks! I'll get some 1866 with the $30 saved for that motherboard.

Reply to MIK_1st

Forum Systems : New Build Updated PC Build-Compatible?

Homebuilt

New Build

Prebuilt

CyberPower

Please mind