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December 18, 2011 1:37:56 AM

A few years back my dad built his own custom build system for hackintosh purposes, but now he uses it for programming/workstation needs. Should I upgrade him to current things such as i5-2500k etc. Or should I buy him a water cooler (H80) so he can overclock. He does not play games, as he uses this system for work.

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December 18, 2011 2:02:00 AM

Its an older cpu, but not by a large amount. It can hang with the phenom II X4's so I see no reason to upgrade with those workloads, maybe if your really really into lower power consumption costs but at the same time you'll never get your money back by upgrading the CPU and of course the Motherboard from the getgo.
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a c 185 à CPUs
December 18, 2011 2:26:13 AM

Im trying not to spend too much as the 2600k is kind of out of my price range....What would you guys think of a i5-2500k? Or should I get him the H80....
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December 18, 2011 2:34:53 AM

What motherboard?
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December 18, 2011 2:37:42 AM

i still have a q6600 @ 3.3 ghz with a gtx580.
in gaming at least, there are no noticable bottlenecks.
will upgrade to a IB when it releases and prices have gone down a bit. imagine, going from 65nm to 22nm in one jump!

a q9650 should reach 3.6 easily, and with lesser heat than a q6600. you can continue with the current build and upgrade when IB comes.
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December 18, 2011 2:39:10 AM

The Q9650 is still good enough for your dad. It is not "cutting edge" anymore, but it is not pitifully out of date.

I have a Q9450 and I will probably wait until Intel releases Haswell in 2013 before I upgrade.
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December 18, 2011 2:40:52 AM

amuffin said:
A few years back my dad built his own custom build system for hackintosh purposes, but now he uses it for programming/workstation needs. Should I upgrade him to current things such as i5-2500k etc. Or should I buy him a water cooler (H80) so he can overclock. He does not play games, as he uses this system for work.

Save the money and spend it on a good air cooler like the cheap 212+ or the high end Noctua Nh-D14 that will put that H80 to shame because the H80 is no good for the price and half assed closed loop water coolers are just more or less a gimmicky type of think. As far as the C2Quad I don't see why you should not keep it in service it is still a decent performer especial with a good overclock on it.
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December 18, 2011 3:19:26 AM

What motherboard do you have ? 3.6 ghz is a reasonable overclock on a decent motherboard. For productivity the newer cpu's are a better but with the power of the current CPU an upgrade would be pricey and show little in the way of results.
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December 18, 2011 3:25:43 AM

jsc said:
What motherboard?

I believe it is one of the gigabyte ep 45 boards, I will have to get back to you on the exact model.
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December 18, 2011 3:26:49 AM

maybe buy him a 128GB SSD....
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December 18, 2011 3:28:35 AM

mayankleoboy1 said:
maybe buy him a 128GB SSD....

I don't think ssd will help during programming :o 
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December 18, 2011 3:33:50 AM

Gigabyte p45 will be a great motherboard to overclock that chip.
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December 18, 2011 3:40:42 AM

spentshells said:
Gigabyte p45 will be a great motherboard to overclock that chip.

so should I get him an h80? He has the antec sonata case (older version) and likes to keep things quiet. Should I get him an h80 and the newer version of the sonata?
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December 18, 2011 3:46:23 AM

amuffin said:
so should I get him an h80? He has the antec sonata case (older version) and likes to keep things quiet. Should I get him an h80 and the newer version of the sonata?

Why get overpriced closed loop water cooling (H80) when air cooling performs better at the same or lesser price point.
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December 18, 2011 3:48:11 AM

Headspin_69 said:
Why get overpriced closed loop water cooling (H80) when air cooling performs better at the same or lesser price point.

I don't think the nh-d14 will fit in the anted sonata case :( 
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December 18, 2011 3:55:39 AM

Perhaps since this is a overclock you are trying to save money maybe look at a decent air cooler. A H80 is pretty expensive maybe a little more than you need to spend, I have the old sonata as well and the air circulation is pretty poor.

Try something like this ?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

or this ?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

or this
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

There are better air coolers for cheaper but the case is limiting.
I tried to get my hyper 212+ in there and that was a no go.
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December 18, 2011 3:57:51 AM

amuffin said:
I don't think the nh-d14 will fit in the anted sonata case :( 

There are many other very great high performance coolers from Noctua and others that are cheap and high performance and that sit in a sonata tho I can see the kind of bling factor that the H80 has but for me the price of the H80 is just to close to an real XSPC real watercooling kit that works far better than most high end air coolers.
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December 18, 2011 3:59:23 AM

spentshells said:
Perhaps since this is a overclock you are trying to save money maybe look at a decent air cooler. A H80 is pretty expensive maybe a little more than you need to spend, I have the old sonata as well and the air circulation is pretty poor.

Try something like this ?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

or this ?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

or this
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

There are better air coolers for cheaper but the case is limiting.
I tried to get my hyper 212+ in there and that was a no go.

he has a zalman cooler, however he would like everything to be as quiet as possible. That's just his style when he works, so he can concentrate. That's why I think the h80 is a good choice, because I can't get the nh d14.
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December 18, 2011 4:08:32 AM

amuffin said:
he has a zalman cooler, however he would like everything to be as quiet as possible. That's just his style when he works, so he can concentrate. That's why I think the h80 is a good choice, because I can't get the nh d14.

H80s fans are LOUD.
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December 18, 2011 4:09:16 AM

Scythe makes some good low profile coolers Maybe look into one of those for around 40 dollars.
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December 18, 2011 4:15:39 AM

Headspin_69 said:
H80s fans are LOUD.

:o  I thought closed loop was quiet....
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December 18, 2011 4:16:24 AM

amuffin said:
:o  I thought closed loop was quiet....

Liquid cooling still has to use fans just like air cooling.
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December 18, 2011 4:16:40 AM

spentshells said:
Scythe makes some good low profile coolers Maybe look into one of those for around 40 dollars.

but are they good enough for overclocking the chip? I mean I don't want to damage it....
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December 18, 2011 4:18:18 AM

Headspin_69 said:
Liquid cooling still has to use fans just like air cooling.

can I replace them with noctua fans or antec true quiet fans?
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December 18, 2011 4:23:03 AM

amuffin said:
can I replace them with noctua fans or antec true quiet fans?

why not but that will run you another $40 bucks in fans if you get the great quality Silent ones from Noctua in which case you would be better off just getting the whole air cooler from Noctua because even there med end cooler performs better than the H80 and i am sure they have a smaller one that will fit.
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December 18, 2011 4:27:48 AM

Scythe Shuriken or kitana fans should be plenty to get the chip to 3.6/3.8.
Some of the 9650's have been seen to get to 3.6 with no additional voltage.
Even the cooler master I linked to would work fine but the scythe would have a really quiet fan.
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a c 185 à CPUs
December 18, 2011 4:54:19 AM

how about a corsair h80 and a 600t? Do you guys know if the 600t is a quiet case?
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December 18, 2011 5:04:47 AM

amuffin said:
how about a corsair h80 and a 600t? Do you guys know if the 600t is a quiet case?

A case is only as quite as it hardware and I think the factory installed fans in the Corsair are a bit audible but you can tame it down with a voltage resistor of fan controller.
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a c 185 à CPUs
December 18, 2011 5:19:00 AM

wow that case is exactly what my dad is looking for! However I think the 600t would be better when I upgrade him to ivybridge next year. I'll check with him to see which one he likes better.
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December 18, 2011 5:23:30 AM

Headspin_69 said:
Dude if you goal is all out silence then check this great case out real nice solid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hn_U4AvTDik

But the problem is that those kinds of cases can cause very high temps when having the cpu overclocked :??: 
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December 18, 2011 5:38:36 AM

amuffin said:
But the problem is that those kinds of cases can cause very high temps when having the cpu overclocked :??: 

This is a great case and can be customized to performance or silence do some research on it because it can also make a great semi high end gamer build case and if OCing is what you want heat will be rampant I would think on that C2Quad so you may have to sacrifice a **** hairs worth of silence to get the air flowing a bit.
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December 18, 2011 7:10:39 AM

I have Q9300 Quad Core and I also have core i5 Laptop both have 8 GB .
I did cpu bench mark test they were very close .


If you have currently have 4/8 and plan to upgrade to Core i5 With 16 GB DDR3
then you can see real difference .

But if you want aswsome performance go fore Core i7 2600K


So if you go for Core i7 2600K it would be better option
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December 18, 2011 7:16:57 AM

faizuuu said:
I have Q9300 Quad Core and I also have core i5 Laptop both have 8 GB .
I did cpu bench mark test they were very close .


If you have currently have 4/8 and plan to upgrade to Core i5 With 16 GB DDR3
then you can see real difference .

But if you want aswsome performance go fore Core i7 2600K


So if you go for Core i7 2600K it would be better option

most people never dip into even half of the performance a core i7 and 8/16gb of ram is used for LOL.
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December 18, 2011 12:02:01 PM

faizuuu said:
I have Q9300 Quad Core and I also have core i5 Laptop both have 8 GB .
I did cpu bench mark test they were very close .


If you have currently have 4/8 and plan to upgrade to Core i5 With 16 GB DDR3
then you can see real difference .

But if you want aswsome performance go fore Core i7 2600K


So if you go for Core i7 2600K it would be better option

Don't need another 2600k machine....also its kind of out of my budget.
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December 18, 2011 12:21:21 PM

I noticed that he likes silence so you can choose from here if you want to buy him a cooler http://www.frostytech.com/top5heatsinks.cfm then again his Zalman might be all he needs.
The idea of SSD would work for him decreasing load times!
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December 18, 2011 12:43:32 PM

rolli59 said:
I noticed that he likes silence so you can choose from here if you want to buy him a cooler http://www.frostytech.com/top5heatsinks.cfm then again his Zalman might be all he needs.
The idea of SSD would work for him decreasing load times!

Do you know if there is a list of cases that are quiet? I think I really am debating over the fractal design refine r3.
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December 18, 2011 7:09:11 PM

amuffin said:
Do you know if there is a list of cases that are quiet? I think I really am debating over the fractal design refine r3.

You cant find a better quality case than a fractal Define R3 nor a more silent one and it is a great case for any hardware config however it does not have the gimmicks like that are on the 600t and it can be configured for high performance air flow with 2x 120mm or 1x200mm fan mounts in the top, 2x 120mm in the front, 1x 140mm on the side 1x 140mm out the back.
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December 18, 2011 8:52:02 PM

My home computer is a Q9400 at 3.8GHz on a gigabyte ep45 mobo, cooled with a Xigmatek cooler.

The Q9400 has a smaller multiplier than the Q9650 so I had to get higher speed ram than normal in order to reach my target overclock level. If you have at least 800mhz ram then you should be able to get the Q9650 to 3.6GHz, and it will hold its own pretty well against current cpu's.
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December 19, 2011 2:49:16 AM

Headspin_69 said:
You cant find a better quality case than a fractal Define R3 nor a more silent one and it is a great case for any hardware config however it does not have the gimmicks like that are on the 600t and it can be configured for high performance air flow with 2x 120mm or 1x200mm fan mounts in the top, 2x 120mm in the front, 1x 140mm on the side 1x 140mm out the back.

I will be bringing him to frys this week so he can see the case, do you guys have any other suggestions?
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December 19, 2011 11:54:36 AM

amuffin said:
I believe it is one of the gigabyte ep 45 boards, I will have to get back to you on the exact model.

The G'byte motherboards are pretty easy to overclock. With a halfway decent cooler, you should be able to reach at least 3.6 GHz. While not new, a Q9650 at that speed is still a competent performer.

For godd ideas about overclocking the G'byte P45 motherboards, see:
Shadow's Gigabyte motherboard OC guide:
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/page-245679_11_0.ht...
It's for an EP35-DS3L but all the Gigabyte Core2 BIOS's are similar.
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December 19, 2011 6:53:19 PM

jsc said:
The G'byte motherboards are pretty easy to overclock. With a halfway decent cooler, you should be able to reach at least 3.6 GHz. While not new, a Q9650 at that speed is still a competent performer.

For godd ideas about overclocking the G'byte P45 motherboards, see:
Shadow's Gigabyte motherboard OC guide:
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/page-245679_11_0.ht...
It's for an EP35-DS3L but all the Gigabyte Core2 BIOS's are similar.

is it possible to reach 4ghz on this chip?
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December 19, 2011 7:15:30 PM

Yes it is possible with some work and a good cooler.
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December 19, 2011 7:34:15 PM

spentshells said:
Yes it is possible with some work and a good cooler.

with a corsair h80 that is.
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December 19, 2011 7:49:30 PM

The h80 should will do it. I'd bet a CM 212+ would do it as well.
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December 20, 2011 2:33:43 AM

amuffin said:
is it possible to reach 4ghz on this chip?


And that will require pretty good ram too.
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December 20, 2011 2:38:27 AM

spentshells said:
The h80 should will do it. I'd bet a CM 212+ would do it as well.

Dam straight a Cooler Master can get high end Overclocks on almost any chip C2Quad included however this is only if you replace the single stock fan with two good aftermarket fans in a push pull config.
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