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July 17, 2011 10:07:49 AM

I'm looking at getting a new Graphics card and i found this one ,the MSI ATi 6870 hawk . What want to no is it a good card and will it fit my MOB ,which is a MSI K9N6PGM2-V.

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a b U Graphics card
July 17, 2011 11:48:45 AM

your motherboard has pcie 1.0 slot and wont support pcie 2.1 cards.. the card which you are goin to buy is pcie 2.1 card better go with an Nvidia card like gtx 560ti
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
this card will cost you only 204$ and performs much better than 6870
what are the rest of your system configuration?
it shouldn't be bottlenecked by your cpu that is why I am asking
a c 214 U Graphics card
July 17, 2011 12:24:26 PM

The slots are backwards compatible but their are known to be issues with 2.1 cards and 1.0 slots.

If you want to stay in the same price range just get a different 6870 that is 2.0.

XFX 6870
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...

Saphire 6870

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...

The XFX card isn't anything special,it has stock cooling and a locked multplier.But it comes with a free game Dirt 3 and it has a $30 MIR making the final price $165 + Free Game.The Saphire card has better cooling but no free game.Both cards are 2.0 and should work with your mobo no problem.Keep in mind that they aren't nearly as good as the Hawk version.

EDIT: After I actually researched your mobo I found out that you have an Nvidia NB.That means you can't run AMD/ATI cards.You'll have to go with an Nvidia card.A GTX560ti is a really good card but something more in the price range of the 6870 would be the GTX460.
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a c 214 U Graphics card
July 17, 2011 12:27:33 PM

What are your full system specs?
July 17, 2011 12:38:38 PM

My spec is
MOB MSI K9N6PGM2-V
AMD phenom x4 9650 QUAD CORE
4GB fo RAM
650 POWER supply
windows 7 x 64
a b U Graphics card
July 17, 2011 12:45:37 PM

650 w psu? which make and model?
July 17, 2011 12:50:36 PM

could not tell you of my head ,at work, but what you are tell me is that my MOB will only work with Nvider cards
a b U Graphics card
July 17, 2011 12:54:16 PM

yeah.. it is an nvidia chipset so you can go with nvidia only..
by the way nvidia cards are better than ati cards :D 
what is your budget ?
if its 200$ then gtx 560ti is the best choice
else 460 gtx which is in the same price as that of 6870
a c 214 U Graphics card
July 17, 2011 1:19:09 PM

I'm thinking with your first gen phenom that you will bottleneck any of these cards.I would suggest something like a 6850 or lower to lessen the bottleneck.
a b U Graphics card
July 17, 2011 1:35:24 PM

may be you are right, I don't know much about AMD cpus
a c 214 U Graphics card
July 17, 2011 2:14:16 PM

I know he will get a bottleneck if he decides to go with a GTX560ti but to what extent is unknown.It all depends on what resoultion the monitor is and what types of games hes playing.
a c 272 U Graphics card
July 17, 2011 2:22:52 PM

purple stank said:
EDIT: After I actually researched your mobo I found out that you have an Nvidia NB.That means you can't run AMD/ATI cards.You'll have to go with an Nvidia card.A GTX560ti is a really good card but something more in the price range of the 6870 would be the GTX460.


mjsharma said:
yeah.. it is an nvidia chipset so you can go with nvidia only..


I think it's safe to say that both of you are wrong, having an Nvidia chipset on a motherboard does not prevent the use of a single ATi/AMD card but it does make Crossfire a difficulty.
a b U Graphics card
July 17, 2011 2:23:02 PM

sorry, my bad
a c 214 U Graphics card
July 17, 2011 2:28:17 PM

My fault.Sorry.I assumed because of the Nvidia chipset on an ATI board that it only accepts Nvidia cards.

If Nvidia chipsets on AMD mobo's are for SLI then why is it on a board that can't SLI?
a c 272 U Graphics card
July 17, 2011 2:31:03 PM

purple stank said:
My fault.Sorry.I assumed because of the Nvidia chipset on an ATI board that it only accepts Nvidia cards.

If Nvidia chipsets on AMD mobo's are for SLI then why is it on a board that can't SLI?

That 'Chipset' is the onboard VGA.
July 17, 2011 2:47:25 PM

So are you saying then, that i can but the MSI ATI 6870 hawk on my MOB.?
a c 272 U Graphics card
July 17, 2011 2:51:31 PM

grenadier said:
So are you saying then, that i can but the MSI ATI 6870 hawk on my MOB.?

If you want.
July 17, 2011 2:54:18 PM

Sorry for keep asking question,s ,but will the MSI ati 6870 pci 2.1 port work on my MOB PCI 1.0 port.
a b U Graphics card
July 17, 2011 2:55:36 PM

yeah I have an amd chipset and a gtx 570 with no issue whatsoever so that whole is out the window, furthermore there are sli hacks for am2+ and am3 boards out there so really it just comes down to your tech level
a b U Graphics card
July 17, 2011 2:57:58 PM

OP: just go with a 2.0 card to ensure its compatibility otherwise its going to be a toss up and newegg makes you pay for shipping and restocking oftentimes on returns so I'd go with the 2.0 cards that you know beyond the shadow of a doubt; work. Personally I think the XFX for 164 AR is a good deal being that they have double lifetime warranty on the card meaning that if down the road you choose to sell it on ebay or something the lifetime warranty can be fully transferred to the new owner which imo is a nice feature
July 17, 2011 2:58:04 PM

Thanks for that but what about my other question about , will the MSI ati 6870 pci 2.1 port work on my MOB PCI 1.0 port.
a b U Graphics card
July 17, 2011 3:00:11 PM

read above post , we must've posted at the same time, like people said above it may or may not work bc of known incompatibility issues with 1.0 and 2.1 cards so you are better off getting the 2.0 XFX 6870 imo
a c 214 U Graphics card
July 17, 2011 6:03:36 PM

I would have to agree.

Although the XFX 6870 is a reference version and it doesn't even come close to how good the cooling is on the Hawk you still get it for cheap,have a lifetime warranty and you get Dirt 3.I remember back in December I bought that same exact XFX 6870 for $240 with a $20 MIR.$165 after MIR is a really good deal.Almost cheaper than a 6850.
a b U Graphics card
July 17, 2011 6:06:38 PM

yeah word, I bought an XFX 6870 back in feb for the same price now they are much cheaper, practically the same price as the 6850! Cooling works but the fan gets loud when ramped up and I was able to do a decent oc on mine as I remember while also keeping temps in check but something like that is subjective because I have decent cooling and ambient temps

be it a hawk or a reference, its still a 6870 and no matter what oc you throw on it it will still be in the ballpark of a 6870, no doubt the hawk is way nicer in terms of cooling and probably noise and oc ability, the XFX will get the job done and you won't be sacrificing much performance wise at all imo. Besides that you want to get something that is def compatible so again my vote is for the XFX, now time to purchase and get gaming! :) 
a c 214 U Graphics card
July 17, 2011 6:13:46 PM

I dunno.I mean yah the XFX 6870 is still a 6870 but I took off the shell to put some arctic silver on it and I saw how horrible the heatsink is.Just 3 small pipes going to a 1 inch square of fins on the oppoiste end.When you look at that compared to the aftermarket coolers and how big they are it's no wonder they do so well in the benchmarks.
a b U Graphics card
July 17, 2011 8:58:09 PM

yeah I totally hear you on that purp stank, I was never into that kind of crap but I feel like a lot of reference models are similar to what you are describing, im always worried about the vrms overheating, (core temps always low) I think this was happening (although its just speculation, I was getting black screens of death so to speak) on my PNY gtx 570, which I rma'ed and am waiting a "replacement card" from PNY, if they give me a recert, I am selling it right away; that is garbage for a gpu I had for 2 months. If they send me a new one I might sell it too, heck I'm just not that sold on the reference models, do they really cool everything properly!? what a debacle :lol: 

Sorry to go off on a tandem comment there but yeah it is definatley worth it to get a nice aftermarket model such as the hawk, no matter what the gpu is
a c 214 U Graphics card
July 17, 2011 9:21:23 PM

The Saphire 6870 I linked above doesn't have a really good cooling solution but it's better than the reference.Also it's a 2.0 card.
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