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July 18, 2011 3:48:31 AM

Hello,

Here is what I am running:

AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 6000+ 3.0GHz
9800 GT Graphics Card
4 GB RAM
680 PSU
Motherboard: Asus M3N78 Pro

Looking to upgrade a bit. Graphics card, and PSU/CPU if needed.

Suggestions? Thanks in advance.

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July 18, 2011 4:54:27 AM

20 views and no suggestions? =(
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a c 172 U Graphics card
July 18, 2011 10:45:32 AM

Here is your CPU support list.

http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/AMD_AM2Plus/M3N78_PRO/...

Looks like you can run just about anything out there. Make sure your bios is up to date if you need to.

If you want a new Nvidia GPU, you'll have to get the GTS450 or better. All their new low end cards are slower then the 9800GT. For AMD the solution isn't much better, though the 5670 will at least get close to the 9800GT. Hard to suggest what to do when we don't know your budget, purpose for the computer, screen res, details on PSU, etc.
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a c 172 U Graphics card
July 18, 2011 12:13:19 PM

your cpu is bottlenecking your current GPU. Upgrading the GPU would be a waste. Upgrade your CPU first and you will see a good performance increase. your board supports most of the phenom x4 range http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/AMD_AM2Plus/M3N78_PRO/... Get a phenom 955, they are great value for money at the moment. you should see a significant performance increase from that alone.
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July 18, 2011 3:23:55 PM

4745454b said:
Here is your CPU support list.

http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/AMD_AM2Plus/M3N78_PRO/...

Looks like you can run just about anything out there. Make sure your bios is up to date if you need to.

If you want a new Nvidia GPU, you'll have to get the GTS450 or better. All their new low end cards are slower then the 9800GT. For AMD the solution isn't much better, though the 5670 will at least get close to the 9800GT. Hard to suggest what to do when we don't know your budget, purpose for the computer, screen res, details on PSU, etc.


Well...obviously I play games on the system. Looking to play Star Wars: The Old Republic when it launches and Battlefield 3. Currently playing games like Sniper: Ghost Warrior, Empire Total War...and have played Age of Conan and even Rift beta on this current system on medium and even high graphics with few hiccups.

As far as budget...trying to stay as cheap as I can and still get a performance boost over current hardware. Built this rig what seems an eternity now in computer time. Want to say 4 years ago.
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July 18, 2011 3:26:34 PM

iam2thecrowe said:
your cpu is bottlenecking your current GPU. Upgrading the GPU would be a waste. Upgrade your CPU first and you will see a good performance increase. your board supports most of the phenom x4 range http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/AMD_AM2Plus/M3N78_PRO/... Get a phenom 955, they are great value for money at the moment. you should see a significant performance increase from that alone.


Really...huh. Surprising considering the 9800gt is now father time in comparison to what is available now. Now I wonder if switching out the cpu and maybe getting a second 9800gt would be a better option (Since they are dirt cheap)? I will definitely look into this. Thank you!
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a c 271 U Graphics card
July 18, 2011 3:30:14 PM

Nino4576 said:
Built this rig what seems an eternity now in computer time. Want to say 4 years ago.

The 9800GT was released in July 2008, three years ago... [:mousemonkey]
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a c 271 U Graphics card
July 18, 2011 3:44:04 PM

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platform upgrade!!!

the athlon x2 is a bit dated, while the 9800GT although released 3 years ago, performance is no where near today's mid end cards, surpassed by even a HD5670

But if another one was slapped in there it wouldn't be.
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July 18, 2011 3:57:33 PM

Mousemonkey said:
The 9800GT was released in July 2008, three years ago... [:mousemonkey]


Why I said "want to say"...because I wasn't certain. Just knew it was a while ago. Excuse me for not being "exact". :sarcastic: 
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July 18, 2011 4:00:13 PM

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platform upgrade!!!

the athlon x2 is a bit dated, while the 9800GT although released 3 years ago, performance is no where near today's mid end cards, surpass by even a HD5670


Yeah...kind of why I asked if a 2nd 9800gt would be a better option after a cpu upgrade instead of a whole new card. Based on trying to keep it as cheap as possible.
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a c 271 U Graphics card
July 18, 2011 4:14:27 PM

Nino4576 said:
Why I said "want to say"...because I wasn't certain. Just knew it was a while ago. Excuse me for not being "exact". :sarcastic: 

It was just a gentle jibe, I was running a pair of 8800GT's for so long that I often forgot when it was that I actually got them.
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July 18, 2011 4:30:20 PM

Mousemonkey said:
It was just a gentle jibe, I was running a pair of 8800GT's for so long that I often forgot when it was that I actually got them.


S'ok. What are you running now? And what are you playing on the newer gpu(s) if you don't mind my asking? I also do a lot of Photoshop and some Maya 3d and Lightwave work as well. The 3d programs are memory hogs.


It's been so long (As far as upgrading anything for my system) that what you said is exactly it...I just can't recall for sure when I added anything.
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a c 172 U Graphics card
July 18, 2011 6:05:10 PM

AFAIK the 5670 isn't faster then the 9800GT. If it is, not by much. I also don't think the 6000+ bottlenecks the 9800GT. That was a popular combo in years back. I do think for todays games a new CPU and GPU is in order. "cheap as possible" isn't much to go on. Perhaps a new Phenom 945 for $110?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

And then toss in a GTS450 for $117.50? (($87.50 after rebate.)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Or perhaps a 6770 for $120 ($100 after rebate)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Cards should be close(ish), though the 6770 will use less power. If you have a $200 budget this is your best bet.
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a c 271 U Graphics card
July 18, 2011 8:48:20 PM

Nino4576 said:
S'ok. What are you running now? And what are you playing on the newer gpu(s) if you don't mind my asking? I also do a lot of Photoshop and some Maya 3d and Lightwave work as well. The 3d programs are memory hogs.


It's been so long (As far as upgrading anything for my system) that what you said is exactly it...I just can't recall for sure when I added anything.

I built myself a new rig for my birthday, it's a 2600K with a pair of GTX560Ti's. I started playing Crysis 2 and F.E.A.R 3 but work keeps getting in the way.
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a b U Graphics card
July 18, 2011 9:14:16 PM

I got to admit, the older Dx 10 generation mid and high end cards are still kinda holding their own on games, depending on what res and details you need. My pair of 8800GTS in my SLI rig are still running about anything I can throw at them, and my sons HD 4830 is still holding up nicely too at 1440x900 (the max his lcd will do). Those cards have certainly proved their worth in the long run it seems.
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a c 172 U Graphics card
July 18, 2011 10:00:44 PM

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I also don't think the 6000+ bottlenecks the 9800GT. That was a popular combo in years back
really? because i had a core 2 duo e6600 (similar performance to the 600+, i remember cause i was trying to decide between them when i first bought it, but the core 2 overclocked better) and let me tell you, my e66-- botlenecked my 8800gts, which is slower than a 9800gt. Thet bottleneck was overcome once i got it to 2.8ghz or faster. I think he should drop a phenom x4 in there and just see how it goes, and add another vid card if its still not up to speed. IMO no point getting a faster vid card until the cpu is updated.
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a c 271 U Graphics card
July 18, 2011 10:23:38 PM

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OP's motherboard doesnt support SLI or CFX

Stick a Phenom II 955BE in, only USd 119 on the egg
as far as GPu goes, we'll need a budget

Oh yeah, it's a Hybrid SLi board. My bad, sorry.
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a c 172 U Graphics card
July 18, 2011 11:02:25 PM

Oops, I linked a non BE chip. Should still be able to OC to similar levels, just not as easy.

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I think he should drop a phenom x4 in there and just see how it goes


I think the same which is why I linked one. I still don't think the 6000+ is bottlenecking his GPU, but when you can get a quad core $100+ there is little reason to stick with that dated dual. There is also little reason in getting a shiny new video card and pair it with the 6000+. I think what he has now works well, but if you're going to upgrade, you'll need to upgrade both.
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