New Gaming PC BUILD

[Kurupt]

Hey guys, i am building my brother a computer for gaming, he is mainly looking forward to battlefield 3 and multimedia. So please look at it and tell me what you think
Gaming Resolution : 1920x1080

GPU:XFX HD695XZDDC Radeon HD 6950 1GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814150527

Case: COOLER MASTER HAF 932 Advanced
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811119160

MOBO: GIGABYTE GA-990FXA-UD3 AM3+ AMD 990FX
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813128514

CPU: AMD Phenom II X6 1100T Black Edition Thuban 3.3GHz
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103913

Ram: G.SKILL Sniper Series 8GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231460

PSU:Antec High Current Gamer Series HCG-750 750W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817371049

HD: Western Digital Caviar Black WD1002FAEX 1TB 7200 RPM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822136533

Monitor: ASUS VE247H Black 23.6" 2ms Full HD HDMI LED
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236112

Subtotal: $1,270.89

Also, what would you suggest for Intel VS AMD in gaming ? Also, if you have a better build for this budget please post.

 

[mjmjpfaff]

i5 2500k all the way!! much better performance than the phenom II's. even bulldozer will not beat the i5 2500k in gaming situations. that is why they are always throwing in more cores

i5 2500k- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115072 220$

Corsair Carbide 500r- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811139009 130$

Asrock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157271 125$

GSKILL 8gb 1600mhz- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231416 50$

Samsung F3 1tb- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185&Tpk=f3%201tb 60$ this drive is actually faster

EVGA GTX 570- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130621 330$

Antec HCG 900w- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168173710501 130$ 10$ more than the cheapest quality 850w and it will run more efficiently if you add a 2nd card for sli

Sony DVD burner- http://www.amazon.com/Sony-SATA-Internal-Drive-AD-7260S-0B/dp/B003MRHOQG/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1316313113&sr=8-2 19$

Hyper 212 Plus- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065 30$

Asus vs 23.6" 2ms- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236174 185$

Total=1279$

 

[AbdullahG]

I would trade in the case for a Cool Master HAF 912. It's a great case and for cheap. When it comes to gaming, Intel is king of the hill ATM, but BD coming out in this year, I would honestly wait for that. The 4-core model will go for around the mid $100s (I'm guessing $150). The six core model will be in the same price range as the 1100T. The cheapest 8-core may be from $240 to $260. Also, the new HD 7000 series is to come later this year. I honestly would wait just a bit longer. If you cannot, reply back so I can find other alternatives to your build (just so you know BD is suspected to be 35% faster than the Thuban cores and 50% with turbo boost; that's a huge boost and may put it ahead compared to SB; though this cannot be confirmed until it's release).

 

[Kurupt]

I am kind of wanting to get this build before the release of battlefield 3. (late October) However, i would like to get it as soon as possible because i do not have a home PC atm.

What would you recommend because the above poster said Intel is the way to go, but then again I'm planning for a future BD update.

If you have a better build please let me know. Thanks !

 

[AbdullahG]

I am kind of wanting to get this build before the release of battlefield 3. (late October) However, i would like to get it as soon as possible because i do not have a home PC atm.

What would you recommend because the above poster said Intel is the way to go, but then again I'm planning for a future BD update.

If you have a better build please let me know. Thanks !

Case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119233&Tpk=haf%20912

PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817207017

CPU Cooler: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065

CPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103808

GPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150549

RAM (out of stock currently, but you can easily find great RAM @1333GHz for cheap): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145299

MoBo: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131754

HDD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185&Tpk=spinpoint%20f3

CD/DVD Burner/Reader: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135204

Monitor: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236100

Total: About $1,075 (and still enough for a 4-core BD and maybe even a six or eight core if you sell the CPU when you don't need it)

 

[Kurupt]

Thanks !
Is it worth to just get a x6 for like 60 bucks more instead of the x4 ?

 

[mjmjpfaff]

I am kind of wanting to get this build before the release of battlefield 3. (late October) However, i would like to get it as soon as possible because i do not have a home PC atm.

What would you recommend because the above poster said Intel is the way to go, but then again I'm planning for a future BD update.

If you have a better build please let me know. Thanks !

bulldozer will not beat sandy bridge when it comes to gaming. games cannot take advantage of more than 4 cores. since bulldozer is making 8 core versions and starting out at 4 it is obvious that the cpu's are still weaker than intel's clock for clock.

 

[AbdullahG]

One more thing; it's about BD:

"The latest rumors talk about a launch October 13 and in view of the 4 - 5 weeks we have heard directly from AMD, it may very well be true."

http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=sv&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nordichardware.se%2Fnyheter%2F69-cpustyrkrets%2F44174-amd-fx-serien-i-massproduktion-och-lanseringen-vaentas-ligga-i-oktober-exklusivt.html

 

[AbdullahG]

Thanks !
Is it worth to just get a x6 for like 60 bucks more instead of the x4 ?

No.

 

[Kurupt]

bulldozer will not beat sandy bridge when it comes to gaming. games cannot take advantage of more than 4 cores. since bulldozer is making 8 core versions and starting out at 4 it is obvious that the cpu's are still weaker than intel's clock for clock.

I see, im still stuck whether to get AMD or INTEL

thanks for your input though.

 

[AbdullahG]

bulldozer will not beat sandy bridge when it comes to gaming. games cannot take advantage of more than 4 cores. since bulldozer is making 8 core versions and starting out at 4 it is obvious that the cpu's are still weaker than intel's clock for clock.

That's what Intel said when AMD released a quad core CPU. They said you don't need more than 2 cores (what they offered). Looks like quad cores are the standards now. And it isn't about "BD has more core, but games only us 4 core." That's total BS. Demanding games, such as Metro 2033, take advantage of the extra resources. It isn't about what the game uses, but what the system offers. Have you looked at the BD Rumors thread? There's tons of news about BD there. A test done with 2x Radeon HD 6970s and an 8-core BD and an 980X. BD performed slightly better. The 8-core BD will be at the same price point as the 2500k, which is a 4 core. What would you want? A 4-core or an 8-core CPU? Look at it like that. One more thing: games barely use 4-cores, so, according to your logic, why get a quad core CPU? Most game take advantage of 2-cores. So why bring up quad cores?

 

[AbdullahG]

I see, im still stuck whether to get AMD or INTEL

thanks for your input though.

Don't look at brands, look at what's the best currently on the market. The i5 2500k is so far the best gaming CPU out there, but with a new-line of AMD CPUs approaching, you should wait and see, though I honestly think you can still be very happy with an i5 2500K even after BD.

 

[mjmjpfaff]

That's what Intel said when AMD released a quad core CPU. They said you don't need more than 2 cores (what they offered). Looks like quad cores are the standards now. And it isn't about "BD has more core, but games only us 4 core." That's total BS. Demanding games, such as Metro 2033, take advantage of the extra resources. It isn't about what the game uses, but what the system offers. Have you looked at the BD Rumors thread? There's tons of news about BD there. A test done with 2x Radeon HD 6970s and an 8-core BD and an 980X. BD performed slightly better. The 8-core BD will be at the same price point as the 2500k, which is a 4 core. What would you want? A 4-core or an 8-core CPU? Look at it like that.

i still dont see the x6 beating the i5 in metro 2033. it isnt bs. quad cores are the standard now! not back then. and let me guess those quad cores are irrelevant now. the i5 2500k performs better than the 980x too! i would want a more powerful 4 core cpu than a weak 8 core. and that is the story of the i5 2500k and the 8 core bulldozer.

 

[Kurupt]

Thanks guys !

What Intel motherboard do you recommend ?

I can spend a little more than the one you posted, if there is a better one on the market.

 

[AbdullahG]

i still dont see the x6 beating the i5 in metro 2033. it isnt bs. quad cores are the standard now! not back then. and let me guess those quad cores are irrelevant now. the i5 2500k performs better than the 980x too! i would want a more powerful 4 core cpu than a weak 8 core. and that is the story of the i5 2500k and the 8 core bulldozer.

Who said BD consists of weak cores? Games barely use 4-cores. So according to your logic, why buy a quad core? Do you have any leaked comparisons of BD? If so, please show me. You cannot compare a product that isn't even out yet to one that is. It's unreasonable. Wait and see.

 

[AbdullahG]

Thanks guys !

What Intel motherboard do you recommend ?

I can spend a little more than the one you posted, if there is a better one on the market.

AsRock offer's well-built, cheap MoBos:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157271

 

[Kurupt]

What do you guys think of doing water cooling ? I cant seem to find any kits on newegg.

 

[mjmjpfaff]

Who said BD consists of weak cores? Games barely use 4-cores. So according to your logic, why buy a quad core? Do you have any leaked comparisons of BD? If so, please show me. You cannot compare a product that isn't even out yet to one that is. It's unreasonable. Wait and see.

what? you just said metro 2033 can take advantage of more cores!! you are changing your opinion. most modern games use 4 cores. i get off bfbc2 quick and see that all 4 cores are in use. (i have an i5 2500k)

if they were actually strong they would price them higher. ~180$ for an unlocked quadcore!!! if it was as powerful as the i5 2500k it would be a gift for us. but why would companies think about us over their own paycheck. also since again they are going for more cores (8 ) it shows that they are probably trying to compensate for weaker cores. just some food for thought.

 

[mjmjpfaff]

What do you guys think of doing water cooling ? I cant seem to find any kits on newegg.

unless you want to overclock your gpu a lot and have a cpu over 5ghz water cooling is unnecessary. but if you want it for looks you can ask about it here- http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/forum-29-380.html

 

[AbdullahG]

what? you just said metro 2033 can take advantage of more cores!! you are changing your opinion. most modern games use 4 cores. i get off bfbc2 quick and see that all 4 cores are in use. (i have an i5 2500k)

if they were actually strong they would price them higher. ~180$ for an unlocked quadcore!!! if it was as powerful as the i5 2500k it would be a gift for us. but why would companies think about us over their own paycheck. also since again they are going for more cores (8 ) it shows that they are probably trying to compensate for weaker cores. just some food for thought.

Notice how I said demanding games in the post you were referring to. AMD is aiming their new line-up against SB (Intel is not as they released SB prior to BD). Increasing prices too high will turn people away, hence the reason for cheap prices (and all the hype). For all we know, their quad core CPU (will around $140 to $160 if the revealed prices are correct) could perform better than an i5 2500K in terms of gaming. Like I said, wait till release. Good day, I have more important things to do now.

 

[mjmjpfaff]

Notice how I said demanding games in the post you were referring to. AMD is aiming their new line-up against SB (Intel is not as they released SB prior to BD). Increasing prices too high will turn people away, hence the reason for cheap prices (and all the hype). For all we know, their quad core CPU (will around $140 to $160 if the revealed prices are correct) could perform better than an i5 2500K in terms of gaming. Like I said, wait till release. Good day, I have more important things to do now.

and as history shows (bloomfield and phenom II) amd going with extra cores was because of weaker cores. that was the only way their higher end processors could survive against the i7's